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I'm in Madison, but I'm willing to put in a couple of beers worth of a donation whenever it's needed.</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 12, 2021 3:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> chicago-talk@pm.org <chicago-talk@pm.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Chicago-talk] Chicago-pm Meetup group is expiring and will be removed in 48 hours</font>
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On 8/12/2021 12:03 PM, James E Keenan wrote:<br>
> On 8/12/21 12:46 PM, Mike Fragassi wrote:<br>
>> Meetup's utility seems to be:<br>
>><br>
>> - it provides a discussion system, although we already have on here,<br>
>> on the mailing list.<br>
>><br>
>> - it provides a group home page. Although we also have one at<br>
>> <a href="https://chicago.pm.org/">https://chicago.pm.org/</a> <<a href="https://chicago.pm.org/">https://chicago.pm.org/</a>>, there are a few<br>
>> disadvantages to that. I think Doug owns it and bears the brunt of<br>
>> maintaining it, for one, along with the duties of updating it with<br>
>> events. There are events on the Meetup page that aren't mirrored on<br>
>> the .pm.org <<a href="http://pm.org">http://pm.org</a>> page. (For the record, Joel Berger and<br>
>> myself are both listed as "Organziers" for the Meetup page.) Also if<br>
>> it matters, I don't see a way to comment on the pm.org<br>
>> <<a href="http://pm.org">http://pm.org</a>> page.<br>
>><br>
>> - because it's a platform in use by many other user groups, in and<br>
>> out of Chicago, announcements of meetings (even if strictly virtual)<br>
>> can have much greater visibility than they do if we only post about<br>
>> them to the mailing list. I've attended a few virtual events Jason<br>
>> Crome has put on for Charlotte.pm, for instance. Although having that<br>
>> outreach doesn't do much good if we don't even have any meetings to<br>
>> speak of.<br>
>><br>
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> Some out-of-town perspective. My impression is that in New York City<br>
> very, very few tech user groups are having meetings right now --<br>
> virtual or otherwise. We in ny.pm did have a couple of tech Zoom<br>
> meetings last year, but none so far this calendar year. The fact that<br>
> the meeting was virtual meant that we could have an out-of-town<br>
> speaker and had attendees from two continents -- but that was<br>
> independent of meetup.com. (Fortunately, I'm not the one writing the<br>
> check for that group.)<br>
><br>
> The NYC Linux group has not met, virtually or otherwise, since the<br>
> start of the pandemic. The NYC BSD User Group has held several tech<br>
> meetings via Zoom this year -- but we don't use meetup.com for that.<br>
><br>
> My recommendation is that if you can renew your meetup.com membership<br>
> at a reasonable rate (perhaps by sharing with another *.pm), then you<br>
> should do so; put together a few Zoom meetings just so people know<br>
> you're alive; and hope that sometime in the future IRL meetings can<br>
> resume.<br>
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These responses are convincing to me. Pre-pandemic, I drove out to<br>
Aurora (?) to see Jason talk about Dancer based on a MeetUp invite. So,<br>
I agree that MeetUp extends the reach. I'll chip in if someone will be<br>
the point person.<br>
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-Alan<br>
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President, Talent Algorithms Inc.<br>
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Observe a man's actions; scrutinize his motives; take note of<br>
the things that give him pleasure. How then can he hide from<br>
you what he really is?<br>
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