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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Let me run with this tangent. Dave et. al., I initially liked Perlbrew and am still using it one place, but after some experience with it, let me +1 Brian’s
comment on Perlbrew vs. the standard Perl install:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10242451/how-to-install-perl-offline">http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10242451/how-to-install-perl-offline</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">You might choose Perlbrew if you are in a completely vanilla environment, need to switch often between multiple versions of Perl and you don’t care
to learn the basics of building Perl or writing your own perl-switcher.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;line-height:13.5pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:#EEEEEE;vertical-align:baseline">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If you are upgrading a local Perl or just using one version of local Perl, Perlbrew can actually add overhead by requiring you to learn its special
ways. “</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">./</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#2B91AF;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Configure</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">–</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">des
</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">-</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#2B91AF;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Dprefix</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">=</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:maroon;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">/path/</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">to</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">/</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">installation
&& make install” and changing PATH is pretty easy.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If you are using Perl in an environment with no internet access, Perlbrew is an absolute nightmare. It’s written in a rambling procedural way with
hardcoded configuration items that makes hacking it difficult. Besides the Perl dist, it wants to download and use some executable (I’ve purged the name from my memory) to manage the install. I couldn’t even find that program and download it myself in a reasonable
time. If I have to hack Perlbrew, which has no documentation on the internals, that totally defeats its purpose. I also don’t want to depend on something so delicate that it might give me problems down the road.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Chicago-talk [mailto:chicago-talk-bounces+sblanton=choppertrading.com@pm.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>David Mertens<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 21, 2013 11:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Chicago.pm chatter<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Chicago-talk] Can anyone help with problem installing perl Tk?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>I agree with Sean. If this seems daunting, though, you can use perlbrew to manage everything. Building Perl is remarkably easy, but perlbrew is even easier.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>You'll have to reinstall all your CPAN modules under the new Perl, but that's a one-time setup that should go smoothly.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>David<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jun 21, 2013 11:55 AM, "Sean Blanton" <<a href="mailto:sblanton@choppertrading.com">sblanton@choppertrading.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">My two cents: I would recommend never using a Perl that comes with an OS, which is for the OS to
use, not for you. Better to install your own Perl where you can use CPAN and avoid such problems. If you have really light use of Perl, I guess you can get away with it, but anything interesting and you will likely need something that diverges from the OS
Perl.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Trying to build locally with CPAN and an OS version of Perl is also likely to bring frustration as
the OS Perl may not have the same files as a standard Perl. Most importantly, never use CPAN to install modules into the OS Perl if you have access to do so – you will break programs that come with the OS distribution.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">So, build your own Perl – it’s easy, and be totally free and clean, baby! If you don’t have internet
access, get a Perl tar ball, build a minicpan from a machine that does have internet access and use that.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Sean</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Chicago-talk [mailto:<a href="mailto:chicago-talk-bounces%2Bsblanton" target="_blank">chicago-talk-bounces+sblanton</a>=<a href="mailto:choppertrading.com@pm.org" target="_blank">choppertrading.com@pm.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>imran javaid<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 21, 2013 10:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Chicago.pm chatter<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Chicago-talk] Can anyone help with problem installing perl Tk?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">You probably do not have a repository set up for your machine.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Your other choice would be to download the RPM:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a href="http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3?stat=26&dist=79&size=2286288&name=perl-Tk-804.030-15.3.x86_64.rpm" target="_blank">http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3?stat=26&dist=79&size=2286288&name=perl-Tk-804.030-15.3.x86_64.rpm</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">and install the RPM (using the rpm command).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM, <<a href="mailto:richard@rushlogistics.com" target="_blank">richard@rushlogistics.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">When I do yum search perl-Tk<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">I get: No Matches found<o:p></o:p></p>
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El Jun 21, 2013, a las 10:17 AM, imran javaid <<a href="mailto:imranjj@gmail.com" target="_blank">imranjj@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Have you tried installing it via yum? i.e.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">yum search perl-Tk<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">it should show you several rpms available but you probably just want this one:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">sudo yum install perl-Tk.x86_64<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:07 AM, <<a href="mailto:richard@rushlogistics.com" target="_blank">richard@rushlogistics.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hal thanks for the prompt reply. As I mentioned in my post I have done that and found nothing that seems to apply to the problems that I am having.<br>
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El Jun 21, 2013, a las 9:58 AM, Hal Wigoda <<a href="mailto:hal.wigoda@gmail.com" target="_blank">hal.wigoda@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p>
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> Check out reports SREZIC/Tk-804.031.tar.gz<br>
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> Sent from my iPad<br>
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> On Jun 21, 2013, at 9:49 AM, Richard Reina <<a href="mailto:richard@rushlogistics.com" target="_blank">richard@rushlogistics.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> I am trying to install perl Tk on a Centos-6.4 machine with the following command:<br>
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>> # perl -MCPAN -e 'force install Tk';<br>
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>> The output seems to look good in the beginning. I see the various windows opening and closing. But the story ends with:<br>
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>> TODO passed: 52, 66, 80, 94<br>
>> Files=72, Tests=4338, 58 wallclock secs ( 1.06 usr 0.22 sys + 17.76 cusr 1.60 csys = 20.64 CPU)<br>
>> Result: FAIL<br>
>> Failed 2/72 test programs. 14/4338 subtests failed.<br>
>> make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 255<br>
>> SREZIC/Tk-804.031.tar.gz<br>
>> /usr/bin/make test -- NOT OK<br>
>> //hint// to see the cpan-testers results for installing this module, try:<br>
>> reports SREZIC/Tk-804.031.tar.gz<br>
>> Warning (usually harmless): 'YAML' not installed, will not store persistent state<br>
>> Running make install<br>
>> make test had returned bad status, won't install without force<br>
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>> I have included more of the output below. I have also tried to install it from source but get errors at 'make'. I have also looked in the INSTALL file but see no documentation that seems to relate to my problem. Any help would be greatly, greatly appreciated.<br>
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>> Thanks so much!<br>
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>> Richard<br>
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>> chmod 755 ../blib/arch/auto/Tk/Entry/Entry.so<br>
>> cp Entry.bs ../blib/arch/auto/Tk/Entry/Entry.bs<br>
>> chmod 644 ../blib/arch/auto/Tk/Entry/Entry.bs<br>
>> make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/.cpan/build/Tk-804.031-XvbIzL/Entry'<br>
>> make[1]: Entering directory `/root/.cpan/build/Tk-804.031-XvbIzL/DragDrop'<br>
>> cp DragDrop/Rect.pm ../blib/lib/Tk/DragDrop/Rect.pm<br>
>> cp DragDrop/LocalDrop.pm ../blib/lib/Tk/DragDrop/LocalDrop.pm<br>
>> cp DragDrop/SunSite.pm ../blib/lib/Tk/DragDrop/SunSite.pm<br>
>> cp DropSite.pod ../blib/lib/Tk/DropSite.pod<br>
>> cp DragDrop/XDNDSite.pm ../blib/lib/Tk/DragDrop/XDNDSite.pm<br>
>> cp DragDrop.pm ../blib/lib/Tk/DragDrop.pm<br>
>> cp DragDrop/SunConst.pm ../blib/lib/Tk/DragDrop/SunConst.pm<br>
>> cp DragDrop/Common.pm ../blib/lib/Tk/DragDrop/Common.pm<br>
>> cp DropSite.pm ../blib/lib/Tk/DropSite.pm<br>
>> cp DragDrop/Common.pod ../blib/lib/Tk/DragDrop/Common.pod<br>
>> cp DragDrop/SunConst.pod ../blib/lib/Tk/DragDrop/SunConst.pod<br>
>> cp DragDrop/SunDrop.pm ../blib/lib/Tk/DragDrop/SunDrop.pm<br>
>> cp Dra<o:p></o:p></p>
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