[Chicago-talk] What's happening with Perl these days

[Mike Fragassi]

I think Perl has advantages in system script "whipitupitude" because things
like file operations, file tests, regexs, and backticks are all built-in
functions & operators, that do not require importing from libraries as in
Python (os, sys, re, subprocess). That said - once those libraries are
learned, it's not *that* different, or difficult.

On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 2:14 PM Jay S <me at heyjay.com> wrote:

> maybe one day I'll try to learn Python.
> I always loved perl because it was so simple to do simple stuff quickly
> my understanding is that Python is more formal, and not a quick to rip off
> a quick script
>
> On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 10:36 AM Mike Fragassi <mikefrag at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This seems more or less correct. My Perl activity at work has become
>> strictly maintenance of existing applications, including adding minor
>> features. We've moved to Python for all new work. A lot of it comes down to
>> that it used to be that all the new hires had at least passing experience
>> with Perl; but now, it's Python instead. Slow attrition has left us with
>> just 2 people at all comfortable with Perl, and I'm the only "expert".
>>
>> Incidentally, I was helped *immensely* when my job, for a moment, was
>> willing to fund training; I jumped to take an in-person course from David
>> Beazley, a local who has written/co-written several Python books, including
>> O'Reilly's Python Cookbook. (His site is https://www.dabeaz.com/)
>>
>> Speaking for myself, the one thing that Python has, that makes me
>> actually angry with Perl for missing, is built-in Exceptions. I will defend
>> Perl's honor that it was not 'line noise' to anyone who tosses out that old
>> line, but I never ever ever want to deal with "$@" again.
>>
>> Perl 6 is now "Raku" since 2019, and it seems that existing under its own
>> "brand" is beneficial for both languages. It should have been done years
>> earlier.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 9:56 PM Jay S <me at heyjay.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Perl Mongers,
>>> I hope all is well.
>>>
>>> I'm only lightly technical these days, having moved into a sales role a
>>> decade ago. I haven't really done any programming for years.
>>>
>>> It seems like Perl6 was too big an effort, leaderless, and sort of
>>> fizzled out while Python ascended. Technical folks I sell to all have
>>> Python people (and scala ruby Java(script)) - I never hear anyone mention
>>> Perl.
>>>
>>> Is my perspective right, wrong?
>>>
>>> Jay
>>>
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