From a.wong2.nu at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 07:10:45 2008 From: a.wong2.nu at gmail.com (Tony Wong) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:10:45 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] [WindyCity-pm] Flourish In-Reply-To: <49d805d70803312131r382e518eqc9369efbb46a11a5@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70803312131r382e518eqc9369efbb46a11a5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <334a3ab20804010710q640e2120kbd268b764332441a@mail.gmail.com> I plan on being at Flourish on Friday until mid-afternoon so I'll be glad to at least straighten up handouts. I can be at the booth too but wouldn't be able to man the booth the whole time. Are there specific things that I should be talking about as people come by? Tony On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote: > I'm booked up Friday during Flourish (http://www.flourishconf.com) and > will only be able to stand in at the Chicago.pm, ChiPy, Chicago Ruby > Users booth Friday later in the day and Saturday. Will anyone be > around the conference on Friday? Better yet, will anyone willing to > man the booth or at least straighten up the handouts on occasion be > available? > > Thanks, > Josh > _______________________________________________ > WindyCity-pm mailing list > WindyCity-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/windycity-pm > From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 07:16:38 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:16:38 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] [WindyCity-pm] Flourish In-Reply-To: <334a3ab20804010710q640e2120kbd268b764332441a@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70803312131r382e518eqc9369efbb46a11a5@mail.gmail.com> <334a3ab20804010710q640e2120kbd268b764332441a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70804010716y7df9e292k43710b48a3144caa@mail.gmail.com> > I plan on being at Flourish on Friday until mid-afternoon so I'll be > glad to at least straighten up handouts. I can be at the booth too but > wouldn't be able to man the booth the whole time. Are there specific > things that I should be talking about as people come by? Thanks Tony. I don't think that we have any particular agenda, other than being sure to mention YAPC :) I'm going to try to be there early Friday to set up. If I see you then, we can talk about it in person, if not, feel free to stop by the booth any time and represent Chicago.pm. From michael at potter.name Wed Apr 2 07:19:46 2008 From: michael at potter.name (Michael Potter) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:19:46 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] [WindyCity-pm] Flourish In-Reply-To: <49d805d70804010716y7df9e292k43710b48a3144caa@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70803312131r382e518eqc9369efbb46a11a5@mail.gmail.com> <334a3ab20804010710q640e2120kbd268b764332441a@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70804010716y7df9e292k43710b48a3144caa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2379dacc0804020719h6a721e31k6e9b03c3722b3897@mail.gmail.com> I will be down there at the UniForum table at least part of the time. I (like you guys) want to slip into some of the presentations so I will not be at the table the whole time. If someone can arrange for our tables to be next to each other then that would be a bit easier. I am not 100% positive I can make it on Friday, but I am going to try. -- Michael Potter On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Joshua McAdams wrote: > > I plan on being at Flourish on Friday until mid-afternoon so I'll be > > glad to at least straighten up handouts. I can be at the booth too but > > wouldn't be able to man the booth the whole time. Are there specific > > things that I should be talking about as people come by? > > Thanks Tony. I don't think that we have any particular agenda, other > than being sure to mention YAPC :) I'm going to try to be there early > Friday to set up. If I see you then, we can talk about it in person, > if not, feel free to stop by the booth any time and represent > Chicago.pm. > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > From Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov Wed Apr 2 07:59:04 2008 From: Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov (Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:59:04 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perl and dates Message-ID: If you have a start date of ( 03/07/04) example and a end date of (03/21/08) example How would you find the total months for this date range or any date range????? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/chicago-talk/attachments/20080402/861e9672/attachment.html From shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 08:01:10 2008 From: shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com (Shawn Carroll) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 10:01:10 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perl and dates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: $ perldoc Date::Calc On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:59 AM, wrote: > > If you have a start date of ( 03/07/04) example > and a end date of (03/21/08) example > > How would you find the total months for this date range or any date > range????? > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -- shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com Perl Programmer Soccer Referee From merlyn at stonehenge.com Wed Apr 2 08:03:06 2008 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 08:03:06 -0700 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perl and dates In-Reply-To: (Vernon Dainwood's message of "Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:59:04 -0500") References: Message-ID: <8663v0l2ol.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Vernon" == Vernon Dainwood writes: Vernon> If you have a start date of ( 03/07/04) example Vernon> and a end date of (03/21/08) example Vernon> How would you find the total months for this date range or any date Vernon> range????? The most general package for this is DateTime (datetime.perl.org), although there are probaby some specific packages that might be more lightweight. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From tigerpeng2001 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 2 09:01:09 2008 From: tigerpeng2001 at yahoo.com (tiger peng) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perl and dates Message-ID: <142450.32967.qm@web58714.mail.re1.yahoo.com> (3+2008*12) - (3+2004*12); and then -1, +0 or +1 depends on how you defined the total months. ----- Original Message ---- From: "Vernon_Dainwood at areb.uscourts.gov" To: chicago-talk at pm.org Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 9:59:04 AM Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perl and dates If you have a start date of ( 03/07/04) example and a end date of (03/21/08) example How would you find the total months for this date range or any date range????? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/chicago-talk/attachments/20080402/6b56f421/attachment.html From e.ellington at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 09:20:34 2008 From: e.ellington at gmail.com (Eric Ellington) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:20:34 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perl and dates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Date-Calc and DateTime are both fast and work well, and both will solve your problem. Depending on how complicated your date processing is you might want to check out Date-Manip. The Author states that you should most likely not use his package. However, I have found it useful on occasions. There are handy functions such as: Date_IsWorkDay Date_NextWorkDay Date_PrevWorkDay Date_NearestWorkDay etc One gotcha is there is a config file that I have always had to use with Date-Manip, as it can never figure out what time zone any system is in. Also, the package will not work at all if it is unable to determine the time zone. On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:59 AM, wrote: > > If you have a start date of ( 03/07/04) example > and a end date of (03/21/08) example > > How would you find the total months for this date range or any date > range????? > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -- Eric Ellington e.ellington at gmail.com From jason at froebe.net Sat Apr 5 07:59:20 2008 From: jason at froebe.net (Jason L. Froebe) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 07:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Chicago-talk] [WindyCity-pm] Flourish Message-ID: <369466.78101.qm@web803.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi all, I met Tony Wong in the Chicago Perl Mongers 'booth' down at the Flourish conference yesterday morning. I'm hoping to get some of the convention photos up tomorrow (my mom's in town to see my 3 month old daughter today). Hopefully someone will be able to snag a few photos from the convention today. The Flickr group is http://www.flickr.com/groups/flourish_conference_2008/ Again, I'll upload my photos sometime tomorrow. Jason L. Froebe WebBlog http://jfroebe.livejournal.com Tech log http://www.froebe.net/blog Froebe Fibers http://www.froebe-fibers.com The opinions expressed within are the sole rantings of a raving lunatic and in no way reflect the rantings, fits, tantrums, errors, corrections, allocutions, or aimless thoughts of Sybase or its employees or of TeamSybase or ISUG. Any resemblence to reasonable thought, or any official or published opinion of Sybase, TeamSybase or ISUG is merely coincidental, and should be totally ignored. ----- Original Message ---- From: Michael Potter To: Chicago.pm chatter Cc: windycity-pm Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 9:19:46 AM Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] [WindyCity-pm] Flourish I will be down there at the UniForum table at least part of the time. I (like you guys) want to slip into some of the presentations so I will not be at the table the whole time. If someone can arrange for our tables to be next to each other then that would be a bit easier. I am not 100% positive I can make it on Friday, but I am going to try. -- Michael Potter On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Joshua McAdams wrote: > > I plan on being at Flourish on Friday until mid-afternoon so I'll be > > glad to at least straighten up handouts. I can be at the booth too but > > wouldn't be able to man the booth the whole time. Are there specific > > things that I should be talking about as people come by? > > Thanks Tony. I don't think that we have any particular agenda, other > than being sure to mention YAPC :) I'm going to try to be there early > Friday to set up. If I see you then, we can talk about it in person, > if not, feel free to stop by the booth any time and represent > Chicago.pm. > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > _______________________________________________ Chicago-talk mailing list Chicago-talk at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/chicago-talk/attachments/20080405/2a2be3a4/attachment.html From jason at froebe.net Tue Apr 8 11:17:48 2008 From: jason at froebe.net (Jason L. Froebe) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 11:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Chicago-talk] Flourish 2008 Conference Message-ID: <120851.64100.qm@web807.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I wrote up an articleon my impressions of the first day of the Flourish 2008 Conference here inChicago. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to meet Joshua McAdams but I did meetTony Wong. The article has a few photos, so I'll just post the link toit. http://froebe.net/blog/2008/04/08/flourish-2008-conference-roundup/ Jason L. Froebe WebBlog http://jfroebe.livejournal.com Tech log http://www.froebe.net/blog Froebe Fibers http://www.froebe-fibers.com The opinions expressed within are the sole rantings of a raving lunatic and in no way reflect the rantings, fits, tantrums, errors, corrections, allocutions, or aimless thoughts of Sybase or its employees or of TeamSybase or ISUG. Any resemblence to reasonable thought, or any official or published opinion of Sybase, TeamSybase or ISUG is merely coincidental, and should be totally ignored. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/chicago-talk/attachments/20080408/88065627/attachment.html From jason at froebe.net Tue Apr 8 11:49:31 2008 From: jason at froebe.net (Jason L. Froebe) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 11:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Chicago-talk] Flourish 2008 Conference Message-ID: <350196.51226.qm@web804.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> sorry about the captcha guys, I'm trying to track down where in Wordpress 2.5 it is coming from Jason L. Froebe WebBlog http://jfroebe.livejournal.com Tech log http://www.froebe.net/blog Froebe Fibers http://www.froebe-fibers.com The opinions expressed within are the sole rantings of a raving lunatic and in no way reflect the rantings, fits, tantrums, errors, corrections, allocutions, or aimless thoughts of Sybase or its employees or of TeamSybase or ISUG. Any resemblence to reasonable thought, or any official or published opinion of Sybase, TeamSybase or ISUG is merely coincidental, and should be totally ignored. ----- Original Message ---- From: Jason L. Froebe To: Chicago.pm chatter Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2008 1:17:48 PM Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Flourish 2008 Conference I wrote up an articleon my impressions of the first day of the Flourish 2008 Conference here inChicago. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to meet Joshua McAdams but I did meetTony Wong. The article has a few photos, so I'll just post the link toit. http://froebe.net/blog/2008/04/08/flourish-2008-conference-roundup/ Jason L. Froebe WebBlog http://jfroebe.livejournal.com Tech log http://www.froebe.net/blog Froebe Fibers http://www.froebe-fibers.com The opinions expressed within are the sole rantings of a raving lunatic and in no way reflect the rantings, fits, tantrums, errors, corrections, allocutions, or aimless thoughts of Sybase or its employees or of TeamSybase or ISUG. Any resemblence to reasonable thought, or any official or published opinion of Sybase, TeamSybase or ISUG is merely coincidental, and should be totally ignored. -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Chicago-talk mailing list Chicago-talk at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/chicago-talk/attachments/20080408/8997228c/attachment.html From jason at froebe.net Tue Apr 8 13:09:40 2008 From: jason at froebe.net (Jason L. Froebe) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 13:09:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Chicago-talk] Flourish 2008 Conference Message-ID: <818930.16105.qm@web802.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> UPDATE: Looks like the culprit was http://crazyeddie.info/dealer/dealer.js in the footer.php file of the GlossyBlue 1.4 theme The official download site http://www.ndesign-studio.com/resources/wp-themes/glossyblue/ doesn?t have this code. I did download it last week? hmmm Otto42 over on the Wordpress.org forums identified the script as: It?s a captcha defeating system. It?s not checking if you?re human or not, it?s sending the results back to crazyeddie.info to let the thing bypass the captcha from some other site! I just went through all the files and verified that the only java script files that are being pulled are official ones. Kudos to Otto42! Jason L. Froebe WebBlog http://jfroebe.livejournal.com Tech log http://www.froebe.net/blog Froebe Fibers http://www.froebe-fibers.com The opinions expressed within are the sole rantings of a raving lunatic and in no way reflect the rantings, fits, tantrums, errors, corrections, allocutions, or aimless thoughts of Sybase or its employees or of TeamSybase or ISUG. Any resemblence to reasonable thought, or any official or published opinion of Sybase, TeamSybase or ISUG is merely coincidental, and should be totally ignored. ----- Original Message ---- From: Jason L. Froebe To: Chicago.pm chatter Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2008 1:49:31 PM Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Flourish 2008 Conference sorry about the captcha guys, I'm trying to track down where in Wordpress 2.5 it is coming from Jason L. Froebe WebBlog http://jfroebe.livejournal.com Tech log http://www.froebe.net/blog Froebe Fibers http://www.froebe-fibers.com The opinions expressed within are the sole rantings of a raving lunatic and in no way reflect the rantings, fits, tantrums, errors, corrections, allocutions, or aimless thoughts of Sybase or its employees or of TeamSybase or ISUG. Any resemblence to reasonable thought, or any official or published opinion of Sybase, TeamSybase or ISUG is merely coincidental, and should be totally ignored. ----- Original Message ---- From: Jason L. Froebe To: Chicago.pm chatter Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2008 1:17:48 PM Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Flourish 2008 Conference I wrote up an articleon my impressions of the first day of the Flourish 2008 Conference here inChicago. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to meet Joshua McAdams but I did meetTony Wong. The article has a few photos, so I'll just post the link toit. http://froebe.net/blog/2008/04/08/flourish-2008-conference-roundup/ Jason L. Froebe WebBlog http://jfroebe.livejournal.com Tech log http://www.froebe.net/blog Froebe Fibers http://www.froebe-fibers.com The opinions expressed within are the sole rantings of a raving lunatic and in no way reflect the rantings, fits, tantrums, errors, corrections, allocutions, or aimless thoughts of Sybase or its employees or of TeamSybase or ISUG. 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"dude, hold my beer") and it follows the usual csv norm.. i am working on a winxp box and my output will eventually be another .csv file read by excel on another xp box. data,"data","data with a comma,data",normal data,"and data" It just so happens that some of the data has a CRLF smack in the middle I am using Text::CSV for the first time and am liking the power to deal with the commas and quotes and stuff.. but i am having problems with the CRLF in the middle of the data. The perldoc page says if you run into non ASCII characters use binary mode.. but the CRLF isn't non ASCII. Whats the most normal/easiest way to deal with CRLF in the data without screwing up the normal end of line? I need to sanitize the data somehow and am drawing a blank. I have been searching online for something but am coming up without any good meat. Thanks a billion. Mike -- /dev/mike0 http://www.mikeferrari.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/chicago-talk/attachments/20080409/957db6df/attachment.html From andy at petdance.com Wed Apr 9 11:57:17 2008 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:57:17 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Simple csv text parsing question In-Reply-To: <40d606460804091144i3eed538ch38503fb15d7c6709@mail.gmail.com> References: <40d606460804091144i3eed538ch38503fb15d7c6709@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Apr 9, 2008, at 1:44 PM, Mike Ferrari wrote: > I am using Text::CSV for the first time and am liking the power to > deal with the commas and quotes and stuff.. but i am having problems > with the CRLF in the middle of the data. I think you'll want to use Text::CSV_XS. I think it is more capable. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From arodland at comcast.net Wed Apr 9 13:37:33 2008 From: arodland at comcast.net (Andrew Rodland) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 15:37:33 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Simple csv text parsing question In-Reply-To: <40d606460804091144i3eed538ch38503fb15d7c6709@mail.gmail.com> References: <40d606460804091144i3eed538ch38503fb15d7c6709@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200804091537.33970.arodland@comcast.net> On Wednesday 09 April 2008 01:44:46 pm Mike Ferrari wrote: > It just so happens that some of the data has a CRLF smack in the middle > > I am using Text::CSV for the first time and am liking the power to deal > with the commas and quotes and stuff.. but i am having problems with the > CRLF in the middle of the data. > > The perldoc page says if you run into non ASCII characters use binary > mode.. but the CRLF isn't non ASCII. > > Whats the most normal/easiest way to deal with CRLF in the data without > screwing up the normal end of line? I need to sanitize the data somehow and > am drawing a blank. > Try Text::xSV, it's less blatantly line-based than Text::CSV, and it copes with that sort of thing better. Besides, I think the interface is more sane. Andrew From mikeferrari8 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 9 13:47:22 2008 From: mikeferrari8 at yahoo.com (Mike Ferrari) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 15:47:22 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Simple csv text parsing question In-Reply-To: <40d606460804091346i6ac05e83wfccb66f46486de87@mail.gmail.com> References: <40d606460804091144i3eed538ch38503fb15d7c6709@mail.gmail.com> <200804091537.33970.arodland@comcast.net> <40d606460804091346i6ac05e83wfccb66f46486de87@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <40d606460804091347u7a8ca21aqd716c9f0d0f270d3@mail.gmail.com> I was playing with Text::CSV_XS .. and got lost.. seriously.. although it did claim it could handle "embedded newlines" which i now know is the term for the thing thats killing me.. i couldn't get it to handle embedded newlines even in binary mode. I will play with Text::xSV tonight to see what i come up with.. With all the different "csv" parsing modules out there.. you would think there would be a push for one big/good one to use with good docs and examples... Instead of 10 different ones you load on special cases with mediocre docs and examples.. > On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Andrew Rodland > wrote: > > > On Wednesday 09 April 2008 01:44:46 pm Mike Ferrari wrote: > > > It just so happens that some of the data has a CRLF smack in the > > middle > > > > > > I am using Text::CSV for the first time and am liking the power to > > deal > > > with the commas and quotes and stuff.. but i am having problems with > > the > > > CRLF in the middle of the data. > > > > > > The perldoc page says if you run into non ASCII characters use binary > > > mode.. but the CRLF isn't non ASCII. > > > > > > Whats the most normal/easiest way to deal with CRLF in the data > > without > > > screwing up the normal end of line? I need to sanitize the data > > somehow and > > > am drawing a blank. > > > > > > > > > Try Text::xSV, it's less blatantly line-based than Text::CSV, and it > > copes > > with that sort of thing better. Besides, I think the interface is more > > sane. > > > > Andrew > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago-talk mailing list > > Chicago-talk at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > > > > > > -- > /dev/mike0 > > http://www.mikeferrari.com > -- /dev/mike0 http://www.mikeferrari.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have been beating my head against the wall for 30 or more hours on this problem..and its making me question basic simple little things in perl... which isn't good. Nothing like a simple problem to humble you :-) I started thinking about it this morning, essentially what i need is .. when the file is read in i need it to not be broken up by the interpretation of the newline characters. I read up on the $/ "slurp" variable.. which seems to do what i need it to do.. not interpret the newlines when taking the data in I am having a tough time coming up with a regex (i seriously need to sit down for a week and work through/understand perl regexes) that will match all occurrences of characters with an embedded newline surrounded by quotes... essentially like i have in the following (FIND OPEN QUOTE) could be something like /"(.*) match a quote, followed by any character except newline, multiple times ... then a \n and then ????? find any character except newline, multiple times and then ending with a quote. This wont take into account things that are not wrapped in quotes or things in quotes with multiple newlines.. which makes me want to lean towards using a module and not reinventing the wheel. I am going to sit down and reread the perldocs for Text::xSV. #!/usr/bin/perl local $/; $words=; $words=~s/ (FIND OPEN QUOTE) \n (FIND CLOSE QUOTE) / $1 $2 / ; print "$words"; __DATA__ qwert,"yuiop","asdf12 34jkl","zxcvbnm" "mnbv","vcxzlk",jhgfdsa,"poiuy" "poiuyt","trewq",kjhtfdrseaw,kikujy 78886 htgrfed Thanks Mike On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Mike Ferrari wrote: > I was playing with Text::CSV_XS .. and got lost.. seriously.. although it > did claim it could handle "embedded newlines" which i now know is the term > for the thing thats killing me.. i couldn't get it to handle embedded > newlines even in binary mode. > I will play with Text::xSV tonight to see what i come up with.. > > With all the different "csv" parsing modules out there.. you would think > there would be a push for one big/good one to use with good docs and > examples... Instead of 10 different ones you load on special cases with > mediocre docs and examples.. > > > > On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Andrew Rodland > > wrote: > > > > > On Wednesday 09 April 2008 01:44:46 pm Mike Ferrari wrote: > > > > It just so happens that some of the data has a CRLF smack in the > > > middle > > > > > > > > I am using Text::CSV for the first time and am liking the power to > > > deal > > > > with the commas and quotes and stuff.. but i am having problems with > > > the > > > > CRLF in the middle of the data. > > > > > > > > The perldoc page says if you run into non ASCII characters use > > > binary > > > > mode.. but the CRLF isn't non ASCII. > > > > > > > > Whats the most normal/easiest way to deal with CRLF in the data > > > without > > > > screwing up the normal end of line? I need to sanitize the data > > > somehow and > > > > am drawing a blank. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try Text::xSV, it's less blatantly line-based than Text::CSV, and it > > > copes > > > with that sort of thing better. Besides, I think the interface is more > > > sane. > > > > > > Andrew > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Chicago-talk mailing list > > > Chicago-talk at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > /dev/mike0 > > > > http://www.mikeferrari.com > > > > > > -- > /dev/mike0 > > http://www.mikeferrari.com > -- /dev/mike0 http://www.mikeferrari.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/chicago-talk/attachments/20080410/c99476f0/attachment.html From arodland at comcast.net Thu Apr 10 17:32:47 2008 From: arodland at comcast.net (Andrew Rodland) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:32:47 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Simple csv text parsing question In-Reply-To: <40d606460804101151k48bce3ffmb96d5aa971f28167@mail.gmail.com> References: <40d606460804091144i3eed538ch38503fb15d7c6709@mail.gmail.com> <40d606460804091347u7a8ca21aqd716c9f0d0f270d3@mail.gmail.com> <40d606460804101151k48bce3ffmb96d5aa971f28167@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200804101932.48134.arodland@comcast.net> On Thursday 10 April 2008 01:51:15 pm Mike Ferrari wrote: > Hi > So i played with Text::CSV, Text::XS and Text::xSV last night and got > thoroughly lost :-). each one having its different confusing points.. each > one saying that they support embedded newlines, each without an explanation > that i understand. If anyone can point me to an example i would be in your > debt. I have been beating my head against the wall for 30 or more hours on > this problem..and its making me question basic simple little things in > perl... which isn't good. > > Nothing like a simple problem to humble you :-) > > I started thinking about it this morning, essentially what i need is .. > when the file is read in i need it to not be broken up by the > interpretation of the newline characters. > > I read up on the $/ "slurp" variable.. which seems to do what i need it to > do.. not interpret the newlines when taking the data in > > I am having a tough time coming up with a regex (i seriously need to sit > down for a week and work through/understand perl regexes) that will match > all occurrences of characters with an embedded newline surrounded by > quotes... > > essentially like i have in the following (FIND OPEN QUOTE) could be > something like /"(.*) match a quote, followed by any character except > newline, multiple times ... then a \n and then ????? find any character > except newline, multiple times and then ending with a quote. > This wont take into account things that are not wrapped in quotes or things > in quotes with multiple newlines.. which makes me want to lean towards > using a module and not reinventing the wheel. I am going to sit down and > reread the perldocs for Text::xSV. Yeah, regex isn't going to do you a very good job. What you need is this: don't read the file yourself, and don't regex. That keeps Text::xSV from doing its job decently. You should just be able to do my $csv = Text::xSV->new(filename => "whatever.csv"); while (my $row = $csv->get_row) { do_stuff_with( @$row ); } From lembark at wrkhors.com Fri Apr 11 07:44:38 2008 From: lembark at wrkhors.com (Steven Lembark) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:44:38 -0400 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Simple csv text parsing question In-Reply-To: <40d606460804101151k48bce3ffmb96d5aa971f28167@mail.gmail.com> References: <40d606460804091144i3eed538ch38503fb15d7c6709@mail.gmail.com> <200804091537.33970.arodland@comcast.net> <40d606460804091346i6ac05e83wfccb66f46486de87@mail.gmail.com> <40d606460804091347u7a8ca21aqd716c9f0d0f270d3@mail.gmail.com> <40d606460804101151k48bce3ffmb96d5aa971f28167@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47FF7956.7080603@wrkhors.com> > So i played with Text::CSV, Text::XS and Text::xSV last night and got > thoroughly lost :-). each one having its different confusing points.. > each one saying that they support embedded newlines, each without an > explanation that i understand. If anyone can point me to an example i > would be in your debt. I have been beating my head against the wall for > 30 or more hours on this problem..and its making me question basic > simple little things in perl... which isn't good. > > Nothing like a simple problem to humble you :-) It may be that you have to parse the thing yourself. Reading in chunks, you can use Text::Balanced to handle reading over the newlines by slurping the end-of-text quote. Text::Balanced doesn't care about newlines at all, just the quotes it trying to balance. As you chew through the data, use T::B to suck up a string, otherwise just snag the next EOL/comma. Any time you start mixing un-escaped delimiters into the data you are going to cause severe pain for yourself. The thing in this case is that it is not a simple problem! -- Steven Lembark 85-09 90th St. Workhorse Computing Woodhaven, NY, 11421 lembark at wrkhors.com +1 888 359 3508 From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 08:43:37 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:43:37 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Downtown Meeting Topic Message-ID: <49d805d70804110843u5a7ea174jffcecc61203fc3f@mail.gmail.com> Does anyone have a presentation that they'd like to give at our downtown meeting in April? Looks like the date is April 22nd. From brian.d.foy at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 08:58:53 2008 From: brian.d.foy at gmail.com (brian d foy) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:58:53 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Downtown Meeting Topic In-Reply-To: <49d805d70804110843u5a7ea174jffcecc61203fc3f@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70804110843u5a7ea174jffcecc61203fc3f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2715accf0804110858t19422c2ep63d9d4411b0b26fc@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Joshua McAdams wrote: > Does anyone have a presentation that they'd like to give at our > downtown meeting in April? Looks like the date is April 22nd. Hey, I think I'll be here for that one (the European Perl Tour starts on the next day). I can talk about my BackPAN indexing, which has lots of interesting little Perl tidbits in it. Some of it uses PPI (the good enough Perl Parser), extracted parts of PAUSE, and other oddities. This is a follow-on to my "Making My Own CPAN" talk. If you've been following my use.perl journal during the Oslo Hackathon, you've seen me mention most of the parts already, although without seeing the code or details. Once I separate the experiments from the parts that worked, I can give you the details. :) -- brian d foy http://www.pair.com/~comdog/ From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Mon Apr 14 10:43:28 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:43:28 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Fwd: OSCON User Group Discount Code In-Reply-To: <4550D3260E04F442AEAA5C29D4559FF40574637A@THN-EXCLS1.dc1.doubleclick.corp> References: <4550D3260E04F442AEAA5C29D4559FF40574637A@THN-EXCLS1.dc1.doubleclick.corp> Message-ID: <49d805d70804141043k20665c0ap5e80ef725519d6a3@mail.gmail.com> ***OSCON 2008 registration is Now Open, Portland, OR--July 21-25 Join over 2,500 open source developers, hackers, experts, IT managers, and users at OSCON 2008. This year's convention will include 40 tutorials that go deep into open source technology and over 400 sessions focusing on Administration, Business, Databases, Emerging Topics, Java, Linux, Mobile, People, Perl, PHP, Programming, Python, Ruby, Security, Web Applications, and much more. Use code "os08usrg" when you register, and receive 15% off the registration price. Early registration discount is available until June 2. To register for the conference, go to: From shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com Thu Apr 17 11:21:51 2008 From: shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com (Shawn Carroll) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:21:51 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Module::Build and company in a $work environment Message-ID: Has any one used Module::Build or similar modules in a workplace environment? I'm embarking on cleaning up some messy perl code and hooking into the local build and release system. The system is designed for compiled languages, but I figure if I can present them with a make file-esqe setup, I won't cause to much of a problem. -- shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com Perl Programmer Soccer Referee From shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com Thu Apr 17 12:33:14 2008 From: shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com (Shawn Carroll) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:33:14 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] [WindyCity-pm] Module::Build and company In-Reply-To: <0631D7AF-DC82-4528-BA2A-B71B93811784@gmail.com> References: <0631D7AF-DC82-4528-BA2A-B71B93811784@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:19 PM, James Yoo wrote: > > Why would you use Module::Build as opposed to MakeMaker if your goal > is to tie into c-ish build system? (I know M::B is supposed to > replace MM but if you need to create a make file...) > > -jy > M::B is the Bright future, with even the MM author wants people to use MB. MB can also make makefiles in addition to Build.pl -- shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com Perl Programmer Soccer Referee From chicago.pm at galumph.com Thu Apr 17 18:01:53 2008 From: chicago.pm at galumph.com (Elliot Shank) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:01:53 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] [WindyCity-pm] Module::Build and company in a $work environment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4807F301.5020406@galumph.com> Shawn Carroll wrote: > Has any one used Module::Build or similar modules in a workplace > environment? I'm embarking on cleaning up some messy perl code and > hooking into the local build and release system. The system is > designed for compiled languages, but I figure if I can present them > with a make file-esqe setup, I won't cause to much of a problem. I do. I LOVE M::B. Easy to subclass, extend, override defaults, etc. We've got a hierarchy like this: M::B => X::M::B => X::M::B::Base => X::M::B::(?:Legacy|Standard) X::M::B is where we put our extra functionality. X::M::B::Base has stuff that we want every distribution to use. X::M::B::Standard has stuff for new code and completely reformed legacy code. X::M::B::Legacy, well, you can guess that. One thing we use this for is centralizing version dependencies. Here's an edited down version of one of our Build.PL files: ==== use strict; use warnings; use X::Module::Build::Legacy 16230; #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Unless there are extraordinary circumstances, please do not specify a module # version in the dependencies here. Simply specify a dependency upon a # version 0 here, then go modify # $X::Module::Build::Base::MINIMUM_MODULE_VERSIONS to include your real # minimum version. This way we only need to update versions in one location. my $builder = X::Module::Build::Legacy->new( module_name => 'Y::B', requires_merge => { 'A::Z' => 0, Cwd => 0, DBI => 0, Exporter => 0, Fcntl => 0, 'File::Basename' => 0, 'File::Copy' => 0, 'File::Spec' => 0, 'File::stat' => 0, 'File::Temp' => 0, 'G::C::C' => 0, 'G::U' => 0, 'G::U::S' => 0, 'Getopt::Long' => 0, 'IO::Handle' => 0, 'IO::Wrap' => 0, 'List::MoreUtils' => 0, POSIX => 0, Readonly => 0, 'S::S' => 0, 'Sys::Hostname' => 0, Template => 0, 'Term::ANSIColor' => 0, 'Time::HiRes' => 0, 'Time::Local' => 0, 'U::M' => 0, 'U::S' => 0, 'U::S' => 0, vars => 0, # There is no direct dependency upon this, but a very definite # indirect one. Nothing will work without this. 'DBD::Sybase' => 0, }, build_requires_merge => { 'Data::Dumper' => 0, 'File::Basename' => 0, 'File::Spec::Functions' => 0, 'File::Temp' => 0, FindBin => 0, 'IO::File' => 0, lib => 0, 'Scalar::Util' => 0, 'Scope::Guard' => 0, 'Test::Deep' => 0, 'Test::Differences' => 0, 'Test::File' => 0, 'Test::File::Diff' => 0, }, ); # Have to clean up additional test-generated files. $builder->add_to_cleanup( qw< t/a/O> ); $builder->create_build_script(); ===== Yes, we list dependencies upon core modules. It helps if a core module is/is made to be a dual-lifed module and we want to force an upgrade. You'll note that M::B doesn't have "requires_merge" and "build_requires_merge" configuration keys. The handling of those lives in X::M::B. I named those after "meta_merge"; see the doc on that for the idea of how these work. The ::Base, ::Standard, and ::Legacy modules put modules we want to commonly have our distros depend upon into "requires" and "build_requires". For example, ::Standard puts in a "build_requires" for Test::Perl::Critic and ::Legacy puts one in for Test::Perl::Critic::Progressive. We've got a CruiseControl server set up. When somebody makes a change to a distribution, it gets built, and assuming that the tests pass, a tarball is published to an internal CPAN repository. (Truly an instance of the dark-PAN.) We have a Task:: like distribution that depends upon all the other distributions that we want put into production (it also runs some sanity tests). CruiseControl builds this distribution 4 times a day. It uses normal CPAN.pm to build all of our third-party dependencies and plus ours. (Woohoo! Free dependency resolution!) Out of that comes a tarball that can be handed to QA and eventually put into production. There's a bunch of other stuff in there that adds custom build targets (ACTION_* methods) and custom file-type handling. We make the dist target depend upon the build, manifest, and distmeta ones. We've got some workarounds for NFS timing issues. (Just lovely, that.) Etc. From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Thu Apr 17 20:25:28 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:25:28 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perl Mongers Meeting April 22nd @ Performics Message-ID: <49d805d70804172025m2aea9acap50628956d15ac024@mail.gmail.com> We will be having our monthly Perl Mongers meeting this Tuesday, April 22nd, on the 12th floor of Performics (180 N La Salle) at 7pm. This meeting will feature brian d foy discussing his recent project in indexing backpan, the full history of source code on CPAN. Join us to hear about the challenges that he had on the project, as well as, some of the reasons why having an indexed backpan is useful. If you haven't RSVP'd for a meeting before, please send me and email and I'll add you to the list. Josh From jason at froebe.net Thu Apr 17 20:46:13 2008 From: jason at froebe.net (Jason L. Froebe) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perl Mongers Meeting April 22nd @ Performics Message-ID: <90111.14978.qm@web807.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Any chance of the talk making it into Perlcast? I'd love to attend but 4 month old munchkin doesn't leave a lot of time to go downtown. Jason L. Froebe WebBlog http://jfroebe.livejournal.com Tech log http://www.froebe.net/blog Froebe Fibers http://www.froebe-fibers.com The opinions expressed within are the sole rantings of a raving lunatic and in no way reflect the rantings, fits, tantrums, errors, corrections, allocutions, or aimless thoughts of Sybase or its employees or of TeamSybase or ISUG. Any resemblence to reasonable thought, or any official or published opinion of Sybase, TeamSybase or ISUG is merely coincidental, and should be totally ignored. ----- Original Message ---- From: Joshua McAdams To: Chicago.pm chatter ; windycity-pm Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:25:28 PM Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perl Mongers Meeting April 22nd @ Performics We will be having our monthly Perl Mongers meeting this Tuesday, April 22nd, on the 12th floor of Performics (180 N La Salle) at 7pm. This meeting will feature brian d foy discussing his recent project in indexing backpan, the full history of source code on CPAN. Join us to hear about the challenges that he had on the project, as well as, some of the reasons why having an indexed backpan is useful. If you haven't RSVP'd for a meeting before, please send me and email and I'll add you to the list. Josh _______________________________________________ Chicago-talk mailing list Chicago-talk at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/chicago-talk/attachments/20080417/518fa63f/attachment.html From dave at obtiva.com Thu Apr 17 21:47:33 2008 From: dave at obtiva.com (Dave Hoover) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:47:33 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Wheaton Group morphing into Polyglots Message-ID: <11c8704e0804172147q7d55a13aic85611c9ca43ebab@mail.gmail.com> The Uniforum Chicago PerlSIG that met at IIT in Wheaton the second Tuesday of each month has morphed into the first Polyglot Programmers User Group, with a second group starting next month in Chicago. We're looking forward to having Joshua McAdams talk on Perl Testing in Wheaton in July. Please let me know if anyone else is interested in presenting some Perl-related material. For instance, Chris McAvoy will be doing a JSON Interop Roundup in Chicago next month and it would be great to have a Perl speaker to supplement his focus on Python. More info at: http://polyglotprogrammers.com Best, Dave Hoover //obtiva: Agility applied. Software delivered. From brian.d.foy at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 06:30:09 2008 From: brian.d.foy at gmail.com (brian d foy) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:30:09 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] [WindyCity-pm] Perl Mongers Meeting April 22nd @ Performics In-Reply-To: <90111.14978.qm@web807.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <90111.14978.qm@web807.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2715accf0804180630j364e553et46a377105a4a68ba@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Jason L. Froebe wrote: > > Any chance of the talk making it into Perlcast? I'd love to attend but 4 > month old munchkin doesn't leave a lot of time to go downtown. I'll be recording the talk for Perlcast, and I'll also have the slides up on Slideshare with my other talks (http://www.slideshare.net/brian_d_foy). -- brian d foy http://www.pair.com/~comdog/ From jeremy at marzhillstudios.com Fri Apr 18 07:30:39 2008 From: jeremy at marzhillstudios.com (Jeremy Wall) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:30:39 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] [WindyCity-pm] Module::Build and company In-Reply-To: References: <0631D7AF-DC82-4528-BA2A-B71B93811784@gmail.com> Message-ID: <69d143cd0804180730t359e6ac3y803c8d6b818ed61d@mail.gmail.com> In my experience M::B is really hard to use correctly. I much prefere Module::Install. Way easier to use than Module::Build. On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Shawn Carroll wrote: > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:19 PM, James Yoo wrote: > > > > Why would you use Module::Build as opposed to MakeMaker if your goal > > is to tie into c-ish build system? (I know M::B is supposed to > > replace MM but if you need to create a make file...) > > > > -jy > > > > M::B is the Bright future, with even the MM author wants people to use > MB. MB can also make makefiles in addition to Build.pl > > -- > shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com > Perl Programmer > Soccer Referee > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -- Jeremy Wall http://jeremy.marzhillstudios.com Jeremy at marzhillstudios.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From jeremy at marzhillstudios.com Fri Apr 18 08:26:30 2008 From: jeremy at marzhillstudios.com (jeremy at marzhillstudios.com) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:26:30 +0000 Subject: [Chicago-talk] [WindyCity-pm] Module::Build and company In-Reply-To: <4808BCBF.4050801@galumph.com> References: <0631D7AF-DC82-4528-BA2A-B71B93811784@gmail.com> <69d143cd0804180730t359e6ac3y803c8d6b818ed61d@mail.gmail.com><4808BCBF.4050801@galumph.com> Message-ID: <315498983-1208532418-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1865169644-@bxe030.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> The syntax for build requirements specifically never would work right for me. M::Install on the other hand worked on the first try. I've been using it ever since. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Elliot Shank Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:22:39 To:"Chicago.pm chatter" Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] [WindyCity-pm] Module::Build and company Jeremy Wall wrote: > In my experience M::B is really hard to use correctly. I much prefere > Module::Install. Way easier to use than Module::Build. What specifically do you find easier? _______________________________________________ Chicago-talk mailing list Chicago-talk at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk From brian.d.foy at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 15:49:29 2008 From: brian.d.foy at gmail.com (brian d foy) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:49:29 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Help Adam Kennedy make it around the world Message-ID: <2715accf0804211549g307e5c24m8062239888f4b2c6@mail.gmail.com> Adam Kennedy is trying to make it around the world in 80 days, and he's coming to Chicago for YAPC: http://use.perl.org/~Alias/journal/36016 He's looking for any sort of corporate support he might get for this. Does anyone want to sponsor the guy responsible for Strawberry Perl, PPI (the tech behind Perl::Critic), and lots of other stuff? I'm already covering some of his world travel expenses, but I'm also helping him look for additional support for YAPC and the hackathon. Remember, he not only has travel expenses, but he has to take time off work to do this. You can respond to me or Adam (adamk at cpan.org) directly. Thanks, -- brian d foy http://www.pair.com/~comdog/ From brian.d.foy at gmail.com Tue Apr 22 22:32:12 2008 From: brian.d.foy at gmail.com (brian d foy) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:32:12 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Indexing BackPAN materials Message-ID: <2715accf0804222232s79af1347x65489c5a54ca0f72@mail.gmail.com> My slides from tonight's talk: http://www.slideshare.net/brian_d_foy/indexing-backpan Also, you can get the pre-Perlcast MP3: http://www.pair.com/~comdog/for/perlcast/ You might want to hear my earlier CPAN talk first: http://perlcast.com/2007/09/29/making-my-own-cpan/ http://www.slideshare.net/brian_d_foy/mycpan-lapm-september-2007 Next month, it's YAPC Lightning Talk practice. Mike Fragassi should be taking care of that. :) -- brian d foy http://www.pair.com/~comdog/ From a.wong2.nu at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 09:08:51 2008 From: a.wong2.nu at gmail.com (Tony Wong) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:08:51 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Indexing BackPAN materials In-Reply-To: <2715accf0804222232s79af1347x65489c5a54ca0f72@mail.gmail.com> References: <2715accf0804222232s79af1347x65489c5a54ca0f72@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <334a3ab20804230908k4cc0dc15kaca5a19192c09c34@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for posting these. I had another appointment so I couldn't make it tonight but am looking forward to listening to the presentation and going through the slides. Tony On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:32 AM, brian d foy wrote: > My slides from tonight's talk: > > http://www.slideshare.net/brian_d_foy/indexing-backpan > > Also, you can get the pre-Perlcast MP3: > > http://www.pair.com/~comdog/for/perlcast/ > > You might want to hear my earlier CPAN talk first: > > http://perlcast.com/2007/09/29/making-my-own-cpan/ > http://www.slideshare.net/brian_d_foy/mycpan-lapm-september-2007 > > Next month, it's YAPC Lightning Talk practice. Mike Fragassi should be > taking care of that. :) > > -- > brian d foy > http://www.pair.com/~comdog/ > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Sun Apr 27 18:48:27 2008 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:48:27 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Early bird pricing for YAPC::NA 2008 coming to an end In-Reply-To: <20080428013805.GC4183@mawode.com> References: <20080428013805.GC4183@mawode.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70804271848s3db90916n7b11164373bec165@mail.gmail.com> Hello everyone, I just wanted to send out a reminder that the early bird pricing ($85 USD) is going to be ending with the end of April, leaving on the full conference price ($100 USD) available. Please feel free to spread the word to any of your respective companies or PM groups to let them know. The URL for registering for the conference is: http://conferences.mongueurs.net/yn2008/purchase We will be putting out housing information soon for those who want to stay on-campus for the conference. Feel free to register now and take advantage of the discounted conference rate. You'll be able to add housing later. Thanks for your help, Josh McAdams -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Url: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/chicago-talk/attachments/20080427/52002ad7/attachment.asc