From jt at plainblack.com Tue Aug 1 18:34:15 2006 From: jt at plainblack.com (JT Smith) Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:34:15 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] MadMongers = D - 1 Message-ID: Only 1 day until the MadMongers meeting. For those of you that don't know, here's the info: Where: Great Dane Pub, Downtown Madison When: August 2 @ 7pm What: MadMongers first meeting Why: Come drink beer, eat burgers, hang out with other geeks How: Get your lazy ass into your favorite conveyance and drive to downtown, then get out and walk, stroll, or mozy to the Great Dane Pub, where we will welcome you as a brother, sister, or halfling. JT ~ Plain Black ph: 703-286-2525 ext. 810 fax: 312-264-5382 http://www.plainblack.com I reject your reality, and substitute my own. ~ Adam Savage From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Thu Aug 3 07:33:18 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 10:33:18 -0400 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Fwd: [Omaha.pm] Last call for Perl Monger shirts! In-Reply-To: <44D1F5DB.7090807@jays.net> References: <44D1F5DB.7090807@jays.net> Message-ID: <49d805d70608030733l50e2f562hebcac0e7cd27764d@mail.gmail.com> Last call for ordering Perl Mongers shirts (http://omaha.pm.org/shirts.shtml). If you want to buy a shirt just sign up at http://www.perlcast.com/chipm/index.cgi?PerlMongersTShirts. From andrew at bedno.com Thu Aug 3 15:20:56 2006 From: andrew at bedno.com (Andrew Bedno) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 17:20:56 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Looking for good Perl .hlp/.chm docs. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <008b01c6b74b$1897f580$6401a8c0@Alfred> Long time reader, first time writer... Having searched the www over, thought it worth asking this group... I like my programming language manuals in help file format as that provides good searchability. PHP's .chm for example is extraordinary and even includes user contributed notes and examples. But the only Perl docs I've found (ActiveState for example) are html, so I've got no arbitrary searching, nor even much cross referencing. I've found a few help files versions but they're simple conversions from the html. So, anyone got a lead on a good .HLP or .CHM version of Perl docs? Thanx! Andrew at Bedno.com ChicagoFunNews.com - Chicago's oldest online entertainment guide. From andy at petdance.com Thu Aug 3 18:17:05 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 20:17:05 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Looking for good Perl .hlp/.chm docs. In-Reply-To: <008b01c6b74b$1897f580$6401a8c0@Alfred> References: <008b01c6b74b$1897f580$6401a8c0@Alfred> Message-ID: > But the only Perl docs I've found (ActiveState for example) are > html, so > I've got no arbitrary searching, nor even much cross referencing. > I've > found a few help files versions but they're simple conversions from > the > html. > > So, anyone got a lead on a good .HLP or .CHM version of Perl docs? First thing you might want to do is see if you can find a copy of the Perl CD Bookshelf. It's out of print now, and you can find it remaindered. One of my next big goals is to have a Perl documentation wiki. If only I can find the tuits.... xoa -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From arodland at comcast.net Thu Aug 3 20:01:15 2006 From: arodland at comcast.net (Andrew Rodland) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 22:01:15 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Looking for good Perl .hlp/.chm docs. In-Reply-To: <008b01c6b74b$1897f580$6401a8c0@Alfred> References: <008b01c6b74b$1897f580$6401a8c0@Alfred> Message-ID: <200608032201.15401.arodland@comcast.net> On Thursday 03 August 2006 5:20 pm, Andrew Bedno wrote: > Long time reader, first time writer... Having searched the www over, > thought it worth asking this group... > > I like my programming language manuals in help file format as that provides > good searchability. PHP's .chm for example is extraordinary and even > includes user contributed notes and examples. > > But the only Perl docs I've found (ActiveState for example) are html, so > I've got no arbitrary searching, nor even much cross referencing. I've > found a few help files versions but they're simple conversions from the > html. > > So, anyone got a lead on a good .HLP or .CHM version of Perl docs? > Who says HTML isn't easily searchable? HTML is practically the most searchable thing out there. And CHM is nothing more than HTML with some compression and preprocessing -- as I understand it, PHP's CHM manual is produced directly from the HTML of the Annotated Manual. Also, Perl's native documentation format isn't HTML; it's POD, which is expected to be displayed (mostly) by the 'perldoc' tool. Unfortunately, windows systems are in general too terminal-incompetent to run perldoc properly, which is why ActiveState employs a POD->HTML converter to prerender all of the docs for its packages. If you like, I see no reason why you couldn't take all of that HTML and produce a CHM file using free tools -- and then MS HTML Help will do the indexing and searching. Andrew From wiggins at danconia.org Fri Aug 4 08:33:22 2006 From: wiggins at danconia.org (Wiggins d'Anconia) Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 09:33:22 -0600 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Looking for good Perl .hlp/.chm docs. In-Reply-To: <008b01c6b74b$1897f580$6401a8c0@Alfred> References: <008b01c6b74b$1897f580$6401a8c0@Alfred> Message-ID: <44D368C2.5020001@danconia.org> Andrew Bedno wrote: > Long time reader, first time writer... Having searched the www over, thought > it worth asking this group... > > I like my programming language manuals in help file format as that provides > good searchability. PHP's .chm for example is extraordinary and even > includes user contributed notes and examples. > > But the only Perl docs I've found (ActiveState for example) are html, so > I've got no arbitrary searching, nor even much cross referencing. I've > found a few help files versions but they're simple conversions from the > html. > > So, anyone got a lead on a good .HLP or .CHM version of Perl docs? > > Thanx! > > Andrew at Bedno.com > ChicagoFunNews.com - Chicago's oldest online entertainment guide. > It is HTML again, but in case you haven't seen it the Perl docs themselves are available at, http://perldoc.perl.org/ Which seems to have a reasonably efficient search mechanism. It is certainly a clean design, and ad free (other than the Perl plugs). http://danconia.org From frag at ripco.com Fri Aug 4 09:01:21 2006 From: frag at ripco.com (Mike Fragassi) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:01:21 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Chicago-talk] Looking for good Perl .hlp/.chm docs. In-Reply-To: <008b01c6b74b$1897f580$6401a8c0@Alfred> References: <008b01c6b74b$1897f580$6401a8c0@Alfred> Message-ID: On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, Andrew Bedno wrote: > So, anyone got a lead on a good .HLP or .CHM version of Perl docs? "Html Help" is the (official?) name for the .CHM format. Knowing this, we turn to CPAN and find: http://search.cpan.org/~autrijus/Pod-HtmlHelp-1.1/ Which includes this bin: pod2chm convert .pod files to .chm files Try that. -- Mike F. From tigerpeng2001 at yahoo.com Tue Aug 8 09:31:24 2006 From: tigerpeng2001 at yahoo.com (tiger peng) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 09:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Chicago-talk] what's wrong with chicago.pm.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060808163124.8306.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> 500 Can't connect to chicago.pm.org:80 (Bad hostname 'chicago.pm.org') From jim at jimandkoka.com Tue Aug 8 09:39:24 2006 From: jim at jimandkoka.com (Jim Thomason) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 11:39:24 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] what's wrong with chicago.pm.org In-Reply-To: <20060808163124.8306.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060808163124.8306.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5cfdfaf70608080939p53d8b25fo29b6d74073b84897@mail.gmail.com> Man, I see that subject line and I expect to see something rich and inflammatory about how the group isn't producing, or that sure YAPC was great, but what have we done lately, or could Andy possibly live any farther away or something, and all I get is a short little note that the webserver is down. No fun. -Jim... On 8/8/06, tiger peng wrote: > 500 Can't connect to chicago.pm.org:80 (Bad hostname 'chicago.pm.org') > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > From andy at petdance.com Tue Aug 8 09:40:15 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 11:40:15 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] what's wrong with chicago.pm.org In-Reply-To: <20060808163124.8306.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060808163124.8306.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0520C02B-1701-458B-A7B1-76ABA3CF28BE@petdance.com> On Aug 8, 2006, at 11:31 AM, tiger peng wrote: > 500 Can't connect to chicago.pm.org:80 (Bad hostname 'chicago.pm.org') I deleted a DNS name I shouldn't have. It's gettng fixed now. Sorry guys! xoxo Andy -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From zrusilla at mac.com Tue Aug 8 10:46:04 2006 From: zrusilla at mac.com (Elizabeth Cortell) Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 10:46:04 -0700 Subject: [Chicago-talk] what's wrong with chicago.pm.org In-Reply-To: <0520C02B-1701-458B-A7B1-76ABA3CF28BE@petdance.com> References: <20060808163124.8306.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> <0520C02B-1701-458B-A7B1-76ABA3CF28BE@petdance.com> Message-ID: <4741702.1155059164659.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> Bad hacker! No donut! On Tuesday, August 08, 2006, at 09:41AM, Andy Lester wrote: >I deleted a DNS name I shouldn't have. It's gettng fixed now. Sorry >guys! From jon at jrock.us Tue Aug 8 10:53:16 2006 From: jon at jrock.us (Jonathan Rockway) Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 12:53:16 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] what's wrong with chicago.pm.org In-Reply-To: <5cfdfaf70608080939p53d8b25fo29b6d74073b84897@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060808163124.8306.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> <5cfdfaf70608080939p53d8b25fo29b6d74073b84897@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44D8CF8C.8050101@jrock.us> Good points, though. Let's have a meeting or a hack-a-thon Some Time Soon. All the cool kids are doing it :) Jim Thomason wrote: > Man, I see that subject line and I expect to see something rich and > inflammatory about how the group isn't producing, or that sure YAPC > was great, but what have we done lately, or could Andy possibly live > any farther away or something, and all I get is a short little note > that the webserver is down. > > From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Tue Aug 8 11:08:18 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 13:08:18 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] what's wrong with chicago.pm Message-ID: <49d805d70608081108vf11f9fofeb780eed675cb2f@mail.gmail.com> In follow-up to the what's wrong with chicago.pm.org note, here is the inflammatory note asking what's wrong with Chicago.pm... okay, not really, but the YAPC burnout is officially over and it's time to start being active again. Here's what I have: - Today, as in within the next few hours, the final tally of PM shirts will be given to Omaha.pm so that they can have the shirts created. This is the last call to sign up at http://www.perlcast.com/chipm/index.cgi?PerlMongersTShirts. - Amazon.com is sending a developer to Chicago to talk about the Amazon Web Services. I'm hoping that we can see what all of the services are and see some in action. Right now I have September 19th marked off as the date for Amazon to visit... official announcements coming out soon. - Presenters... anyone want to talk in August? I'm publicly prodding Mike Fragassi (sorry Mike, I should have asked you privately first) to see if he would mind doing a practice run of the talk that he is slotted to give on September 23rd at the Pittsburgh Perl Workshop (http://pghpw.org).... how about it? No pressure or anything :) If not Mike, I know that Pete and Andy have both been working on some cool projects... Andy on the Parrot Cage Cleaners and Pete on PITA. Both of those sound cool. - As mentioned, the Pittsburgh Perl Workshop is September 23rd. I'm about 75% sure I'll be going. Frag is of course going to be there.... anybody else? If anyone wants, we can probably carpool and save some $$. Other options that I've priced include Amtrak at $102 round-trip (in at 4am, out at 11pm) and Greyhound at $120 (hotel required). Flying was in the $200 range, so I'll probably end up taking the train. On a final off-topic note, if anyone is a Perl and C# programmer and is looking for a job, send me a note. Josh From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Tue Aug 8 11:11:39 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 13:11:39 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] what's wrong with chicago.pm.org In-Reply-To: <44D8CF8C.8050101@jrock.us> References: <20060808163124.8306.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> <5cfdfaf70608080939p53d8b25fo29b6d74073b84897@mail.gmail.com> <44D8CF8C.8050101@jrock.us> Message-ID: <49d805d70608081111l2903b9edpc9a628344ff06adc@mail.gmail.com> > > Man, I see that subject line and I expect to see something rich and > > inflammatory about how the group isn't producing, or that sure YAPC > > was great, but what have we done lately, or could Andy possibly live > > any farther away or something, and all I get is a short little note > > that the webserver is down. We are working on a hack-a-thon. I know that Andy Lester is looking for locations. We've found a couple downtown that are free, but hotels surrounding them are expensive. If anyone knows of a good venue (http://hackathon.info) let Andy know. From jon at jrock.us Tue Aug 8 11:13:44 2006 From: jon at jrock.us (Jonathan Rockway) Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:13:44 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] what's wrong with chicago.pm In-Reply-To: <49d805d70608081108vf11f9fofeb780eed675cb2f@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608081108vf11f9fofeb780eed675cb2f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44D8D458.4020104@jrock.us> I'm looking for a Perl job, but I don't know C#. I'm not adverse to learning it, though. (I do know Java, though, and I hear they're similar-ish.) Quick breakdown of Perl experience (in the last year): 2 big apps for UofC, NMR reservation and "Mailing List Generator" (friendly interface to HR data). 7 CPAN distributions; patches to a few others (actively working on HTML::Tidy with Andy... when we have time :); 2 major apps, blog, and workstation backup. http://www.jrock.us/trac for the wikis and SVN repositories for all that. Regards, Jonathan Rockway > On a final off-topic note, if anyone is a Perl and C# programmer and > is looking for a job, send me a note. From jon at jrock.us Tue Aug 8 11:23:42 2006 From: jon at jrock.us (Jonathan Rockway) Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:23:42 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] what's wrong with chicago.pm In-Reply-To: <44D8D458.4020104@jrock.us> References: <49d805d70608081108vf11f9fofeb780eed675cb2f@mail.gmail.com> <44D8D458.4020104@jrock.us> Message-ID: <44D8D6AE.3070408@jrock.us> Wow, totally hit the wrong reply-to on that. Sorry for the spam! :( *hangs head in shame* On that note, though, I would like to give some talks at PM meetings. :) My current areas of I-know-what-I'm-talking-about-kinda-sorta are the Berkeley database, Catalyst, and File::Attributes. If anyone's interested in hearing about one of those things, let me know, and I'll put together some slides or something. (I'm also investigating Jifty now, because it seems Nifty :) Regards, Jonathan Rockway Jonathan Rockway wrote: > : From e.ellington at gmail.com Tue Aug 8 11:52:16 2006 From: e.ellington at gmail.com (Eric Ellington) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 13:52:16 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] what's wrong with chicago.pm In-Reply-To: <49d805d70608081108vf11f9fofeb780eed675cb2f@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608081108vf11f9fofeb780eed675cb2f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: If your thinking of traveling Amtrak to Pittsburgh or a hackathon you should know about this deal. I am using to to go to D.C. in a few weeks there is no catch just have to use the code. Amtrak is offering one free ticket when you purchase one using coupon code H568. Thanks spike00! Tickets must be purchased by December 8, 2006 for travel through December 15, 2006. This offer is not good during the following blackout dates: Jan. 13-16, 2006; Feb. 17-20, 2006; Apr. 13-17, 2006; May 26-29, 2006, Sept. 1-4, 2006, Oct. 6-9, 2006, Nov. 9-12, 2006 and Nov 21-28, 2006; plus per fare plan purchased. Also not valid for travel in the Northeast Corridor between Boston and Washington D.C. at Peak Travel times. (Peak travel times are Friday and Sunday from 9 a.m. to 6:59 p.m. Exceptions to these periods may occur on certain dates near major holidays.) -- Eric Ellington e.ellington at gmail.com On 8/8/06, Joshua McAdams wrote: > In follow-up to the what's wrong with chicago.pm.org note, here is the > inflammatory note asking what's wrong with Chicago.pm... okay, not > really, but the YAPC burnout is officially over and it's time to start > being active again. Here's what I have: > > - Today, as in within the next few hours, the final tally of PM shirts > will be given to Omaha.pm so that they can have the shirts created. > This is the last call to sign up at > http://www.perlcast.com/chipm/index.cgi?PerlMongersTShirts. > > - Amazon.com is sending a developer to Chicago to talk about the > Amazon Web Services. I'm hoping that we can see what all of the > services are and see some in action. Right now I have September 19th > marked off as the date for Amazon to visit... official announcements > coming out soon. > > - Presenters... anyone want to talk in August? I'm publicly prodding > Mike Fragassi (sorry Mike, I should have asked you privately first) to > see if he would mind doing a practice run of the talk that he is > slotted to give on September 23rd at the Pittsburgh Perl Workshop > (http://pghpw.org).... how about it? No pressure or anything :) If > not Mike, I know that Pete and Andy have both been working on some > cool projects... Andy on the Parrot Cage Cleaners and Pete on PITA. > Both of those sound cool. > > - As mentioned, the Pittsburgh Perl Workshop is September 23rd. I'm > about 75% sure I'll be going. Frag is of course going to be there.... > anybody else? If anyone wants, we can probably carpool and save some > $$. Other options that I've priced include Amtrak at $102 round-trip > (in at 4am, out at 11pm) and Greyhound at $120 (hotel required). > Flying was in the $200 range, so I'll probably end up taking the > train. > > On a final off-topic note, if anyone is a Perl and C# programmer and > is looking for a job, send me a note. > > Josh > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Tue Aug 8 12:00:09 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 15:00:09 -0400 Subject: [Chicago-talk] what's wrong with chicago.pm In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70608081108vf11f9fofeb780eed675cb2f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70608081200s6fbc6960pf926e3853c69702c@mail.gmail.com> > Amtrak is offering one free ticket when you purchase one using coupon > code H568. Thanks spike00! Rockin' I just ran that code and two people can travel to Pittsburgh and back for $102 combined. From andy at petdance.com Tue Aug 8 12:42:47 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 14:42:47 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] what's wrong with chicago.pm.org In-Reply-To: <44D8CF8C.8050101@jrock.us> References: <20060808163124.8306.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> <5cfdfaf70608080939p53d8b25fo29b6d74073b84897@mail.gmail.com> <44D8CF8C.8050101@jrock.us> Message-ID: On Aug 8, 2006, at 12:53 PM, Jonathan Rockway wrote: > Good points, though. Let's have a meeting or a hack-a-thon Some Time > Soon. All the cool kids are doing it :) We will have a hackathon (Fri-Sun) some time in late October or early November. Watch this space for details. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From andy at petdance.com Tue Aug 8 12:42:47 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 14:42:47 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] what's wrong with chicago.pm.org In-Reply-To: <44D8CF8C.8050101@jrock.us> References: <20060808163124.8306.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> <5cfdfaf70608080939p53d8b25fo29b6d74073b84897@mail.gmail.com> <44D8CF8C.8050101@jrock.us> Message-ID: On Aug 8, 2006, at 12:53 PM, Jonathan Rockway wrote: > Good points, though. Let's have a meeting or a hack-a-thon Some Time > Soon. All the cool kids are doing it :) We will have a hackathon (Fri-Sun) some time in late October or early November. Watch this space for details. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From andy at petdance.com Tue Aug 8 12:46:56 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 14:46:56 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] what's wrong with chicago.pm.org In-Reply-To: <49d805d70608081111l2903b9edpc9a628344ff06adc@mail.gmail.com> References: <20060808163124.8306.qmail@web54709.mail.yahoo.com> <5cfdfaf70608080939p53d8b25fo29b6d74073b84897@mail.gmail.com> <44D8CF8C.8050101@jrock.us> <49d805d70608081111l2903b9edpc9a628344ff06adc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <01456EE8-87DB-48BC-BFAE-998198A6D641@petdance.com> On Aug 8, 2006, at 1:11 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote: > We are working on a hack-a-thon. I know that Andy Lester is looking > for locations. We've found a couple downtown that are free, but > hotels surrounding them are expensive. If anyone knows of a good > venue (http://hackathon.info) let Andy know. At this point we probably have venue. Right now, we just need to throw a proposal together to TPF who will (I hope) be helping sponsor it. Andy -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From frag at ripco.com Tue Aug 8 12:48:48 2006 From: frag at ripco.com (Mike Fragassi) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 14:48:48 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Chicago-talk] what's wrong with chicago.pm In-Reply-To: <49d805d70608081108vf11f9fofeb780eed675cb2f@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608081108vf11f9fofeb780eed675cb2f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Joshua McAdams wrote: > - Presenters... anyone want to talk in August? I'm publicly prodding > Mike Fragassi (sorry Mike, I should have asked you privately first) to > see if he would mind doing a practice run of the talk that he is > slotted to give on September 23rd at the Pittsburgh Perl Workshop > (http://pghpw.org).... how about it? No pressure or anything :) I don't mind, but be warned, it's just going to be a tightened-up version of the talk I already gave last time ("Perl Logging Practices"), at close to the same length (30 minutes). And I hope that this meeting isn't next week, because then =~ s/tightened-up/identical/. At the least we should have an additional presentation lined up. -- Mike F. From kent at c2group.net Tue Aug 8 14:05:26 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 23:05:26 +0200 Subject: [Chicago-talk] What's the surprise tonight? Message-ID: <5C814037-E6DE-4779-8F5F-1E0B80B71887@c2group.net> I just flew in from Italy, and boy are my arms tired. I don't think I can convince myself to push back picking up my dog from the dog sitters in order to make it tonight to Wheaton, but I figured others might be interested in finding out what's on the menu for the evening. Anyone know, or would that just spoil the surprise? I guess at the very least this is a friendly reminder that there is indeed a Chicago Uniforum meeting tonight that has something to do with Perl :) http://www.uniforum.chi.il.us/index.html -Kent Cowgill C2 Group, Inc. kent at c2group.net http://www.c2group.net 312.804.0160 From arodland at comcast.net Tue Aug 8 17:13:28 2006 From: arodland at comcast.net (Andrew Rodland) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 19:13:28 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] what's wrong with chicago.pm In-Reply-To: <44D8D458.4020104@jrock.us> References: <49d805d70608081108vf11f9fofeb780eed675cb2f@mail.gmail.com> <44D8D458.4020104@jrock.us> Message-ID: <200608081913.28639.arodland@comcast.net> On Tuesday 08 August 2006 1:13 pm, Jonathan Rockway wrote: > I'm looking for a Perl job, but I don't know C#. I'm not adverse to > learning it, though. (I do know Java, though, and I hear they're > similar-ish.) Since you made a goof posting this anyway, I figure it gives me license to butt in with a vocab lesson. Adverse means unfavorable, against one's interests, or simply harmful, as in "adverse weather" or the related "aversity" or "adversary". Averse means disinclined, distasteful of, or tending to avoid, as in "Risk-averse behavior." Related is "avert", which means to avoid ("avert a catastrophe") or turn away ("avert your eyes"). If you think about it for a bit, it's not surprised that they have the same ultimate root verb, latin verto/vertere, which means "to turn" and gives us _lots_ of good words (vertex? versus? vertical? Even advertise.) But now we all know about what that little 'd' does, and how not to trigger teeth-gnashing reflexes by misusing "averse" and "adverse". Andrew P.S. Just in case anyone hasn't figured out, nobody's being flamed here. No animals were harmed in the making of this message. From arodland at comcast.net Tue Aug 8 17:26:50 2006 From: arodland at comcast.net (Andrew Rodland) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 19:26:50 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] what's wrong with chicago.pm In-Reply-To: <200608081913.28639.arodland@comcast.net> References: <49d805d70608081108vf11f9fofeb780eed675cb2f@mail.gmail.com> <44D8D458.4020104@jrock.us> <200608081913.28639.arodland@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200608081926.50502.arodland@comcast.net> On Tuesday 08 August 2006 7:13 pm, Andrew Rodland wrote: > Adverse means unfavorable, against one's interests, or simply harmful, as > in "adverse weather" or the related "aversity" or "adversary". Obvious typo, "adversity". Look what I did ;) Andrew From jon at jrock.us Tue Aug 8 19:49:48 2006 From: jon at jrock.us (Jonathan Rockway) Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 21:49:48 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] what's wrong with chicago.pm In-Reply-To: <200608081913.28639.arodland@comcast.net> References: <49d805d70608081108vf11f9fofeb780eed675cb2f@mail.gmail.com> <44D8D458.4020104@jrock.us> <200608081913.28639.arodland@comcast.net> Message-ID: <44D94D4C.5030806@jrock.us> You're absolutely right. I've been flamed more than once for this mistake, but I guess my Chicago accent makes me ... uh ... averse to learning the correct spelling. Hopefully this time I'll get it :) (I'm an idiot anyway for not checking the To: field on that mail and definitely deserve a good flaming. I blame Thunderbird, though... anyone up for writing a Perl-based e-mail client? ;) ;) Regards, Jonathan Rockway Andrew Rodland wrote: > On Tuesday 08 August 2006 1:13 pm, Jonathan Rockway wrote: > >> I'm looking for a Perl job, but I don't know C#. I'm not adverse to >> learning it, though. (I do know Java, though, and I hear they're >> similar-ish.) >> > > Since you made a goof posting this anyway, I figure it gives me license to > butt in with a vocab lesson. > > Adverse means unfavorable, against one's interests, or simply harmful, as > in "adverse weather" or the related "aversity" or "adversary". > > Averse means disinclined, distasteful of, or tending to avoid, as > in "Risk-averse behavior." Related is "avert", which means to avoid ("avert a > catastrophe") or turn away ("avert your eyes"). > > If you think about it for a bit, it's not surprised that they have the same > ultimate root verb, latin verto/vertere, which means "to turn" and gives us > _lots_ of good words (vertex? versus? vertical? Even advertise.) But now we > all know about what that little 'd' does, and how not to trigger > teeth-gnashing reflexes by misusing "averse" and "adverse". > > Andrew > > P.S. Just in case anyone hasn't figured out, nobody's being flamed here. No > animals were harmed in the making of this message. > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 370 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/chicago-talk/attachments/20060808/d75dcad5/attachment.bin From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Tue Aug 8 20:31:14 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 22:31:14 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week Message-ID: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> I was chatting with Nola on IRC tonight and she mentioned that it would be cool for Chicago.pm to get together for dinner next week sometime. So, any days work better or worse for you guys and gals? Tentative plans are to meet up at Rock Bottom at Grand sometime after work... exact day to be determined soon. From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Tue Aug 8 20:33:57 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 22:33:57 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] what's wrong with chicago.pm In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70608081108vf11f9fofeb780eed675cb2f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70608082033y78b674e1j25108d4904a125b7@mail.gmail.com> > I don't mind, but be warned, it's just going to be a tightened-up version > of the talk I already gave last time ("Perl Logging Practices"), at close > to the same length (30 minutes). And I hope that this meeting isn't next > week, because then =~ s/tightened-up/identical/. At the least we should > have an additional presentation lined up. I'm game if you give us the full version of your talk and if Jonathon picks a topic (no preference here) and presents. Possibly we could align this with our dinner outing next week. From andy at petdance.com Tue Aug 8 20:50:08 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 22:50:08 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <708240EF-41E7-4B8E-AE10-B5601B1BB746@petdance.com> On Aug 8, 2006, at 10:31 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote: > I was chatting with Nola on IRC tonight and she mentioned that it > would be cool for Chicago.pm to get together for dinner next week > sometime. So, any days work better or worse for you guys and gals? > Tentative plans are to meet up at Rock Bottom at Grand sometime after > work... exact day to be determined soon. I'm flying out to LinuxWorldExpo on Monday at 5:30, but could theoretically do lunch. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From kent at c2group.net Wed Aug 9 04:42:35 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 06:42:35 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44A236FD-96B0-4258-B7B2-0E3F1D6E4AE8@c2group.net> That day works perfectly for me next week. -Kent Cowgill C2 Group, Inc. kent at c2group.net http://www.c2group.net 312.804.0160 On Aug 8, 2006, at 10:31 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote: > I was chatting with Nola on IRC tonight and she mentioned that it > would be cool for Chicago.pm to get together for dinner next week > sometime. So, any days work better or worse for you guys and gals? > Tentative plans are to meet up at Rock Bottom at Grand sometime after > work... exact day to be determined soon. > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > From list at phaedrusdeinus.org Wed Aug 9 07:52:15 2006 From: list at phaedrusdeinus.org (John Melesky) Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:52:15 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] what's wrong with chicago.pm In-Reply-To: <44D94D4C.5030806@jrock.us> References: <49d805d70608081108vf11f9fofeb780eed675cb2f@mail.gmail.com> <44D8D458.4020104@jrock.us> <200608081913.28639.arodland@comcast.net> <44D94D4C.5030806@jrock.us> Message-ID: <44D9F69F.2050800@phaedrusdeinus.org> Jonathan Rockway wrote: > anyone up for writing a Perl-based e-mail client? ;) ;) 'tis a poor musician who blames his instrument, but such things do exist. There are plenty of web-based perl email clients, and there's CSCMail, which is GTK-based, and inactive since, like, aught-2 or something. -johnnnnnnnnn From mrnicksgirl at gmail.com Sat Aug 12 06:19:35 2006 From: mrnicksgirl at gmail.com (Nola Stowe) Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 08:19:35 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <44A236FD-96B0-4258-B7B2-0E3F1D6E4AE8@c2group.net> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <44A236FD-96B0-4258-B7B2-0E3F1D6E4AE8@c2group.net> Message-ID: <43e95380608120619t72439f95g82b41b7048416c63@mail.gmail.com> Ok since nobody has picked a day ....I'm predicting I'll still be sick on monday and I'm busy tuesday, wednesday I am going to PHP User Group ......... how about thursday or friday?? Lets say meet up at 5 or 5:30 ... we can be there a few hours, congregate to Performics? and then have a meeting? Probably like a 6-7 block walk from Rock Bottom to Performics? Vote on your preferred day and time! On 8/9/06, Kent Cowgill wrote: > That day works perfectly for me next week. > > -Kent Cowgill > > C2 Group, Inc. > kent at c2group.net > http://www.c2group.net > 312.804.0160 > > > On Aug 8, 2006, at 10:31 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote: > > > I was chatting with Nola on IRC tonight and she mentioned that it > > would be cool for Chicago.pm to get together for dinner next week > > sometime. So, any days work better or worse for you guys and gals? > > Tentative plans are to meet up at Rock Bottom at Grand sometime after > > work... exact day to be determined soon. > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago-talk mailing list > > Chicago-talk at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -- http://phpgirl.blogspot.com http://AnythingButPHP.blogspot.com http://CodeSnipers.com From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Sat Aug 12 08:27:00 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 10:27:00 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <43e95380608120619t72439f95g82b41b7048416c63@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <44A236FD-96B0-4258-B7B2-0E3F1D6E4AE8@c2group.net> <43e95380608120619t72439f95g82b41b7048416c63@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70608120827u3f077760m477da7b34f7f02e1@mail.gmail.com> > Ok since nobody has picked a day ....I'm predicting I'll still be sick > on monday and I'm busy tuesday, wednesday I am going to PHP User Group > ......... how about thursday or friday?? I vot for Thursday. Sorry Andy, but have a good time at the Linux Conference! > Lets say meet up at 5 or 5:30 ... we can be there a few hours, > congregate to Performics? and then have a meeting? We can meet up at Rock Bottom in the back pool area at 5:30. I'll wait in the lobby of Performics (180 N LaSalle) until 5:15 in case anyone needs help finding Rock Bottom (State & Grand). From kent at c2group.net Sat Aug 12 15:44:01 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:44:01 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <49d805d70608120827u3f077760m477da7b34f7f02e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <44A236FD-96B0-4258-B7B2-0E3F1D6E4AE8@c2group.net> <43e95380608120619t72439f95g82b41b7048416c63@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608120827u3f077760m477da7b34f7f02e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7F393466-7AE3-46F1-8BB7-2C41224C6CEB@c2group.net> Thursday works for me, and 5:30 seems convenient enough for me. -Kent Cowgill C2 Group, Inc. kent at c2group.net http://www.c2group.net 312.804.0160 On Aug 12, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Joshua McAdams wrote: >> Ok since nobody has picked a day ....I'm predicting I'll still be >> sick >> on monday and I'm busy tuesday, wednesday I am going to PHP User >> Group >> ......... how about thursday or friday?? > > I vot for Thursday. Sorry Andy, but have a good time at the Linux > Conference! > >> Lets say meet up at 5 or 5:30 ... we can be there a few hours, >> congregate to Performics? and then have a meeting? > > We can meet up at Rock Bottom in the back pool area at 5:30. I'll > wait in the lobby of Performics (180 N LaSalle) until 5:15 in case > anyone needs help finding Rock Bottom (State & Grand). > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > From jon at jrock.us Sat Aug 12 21:53:28 2006 From: jon at jrock.us (Jonathan Rockway) Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 23:53:28 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <7F393466-7AE3-46F1-8BB7-2C41224C6CEB@c2group.net> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <44A236FD-96B0-4258-B7B2-0E3F1D6E4AE8@c2group.net> <43e95380608120619t72439f95g82b41b7048416c63@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608120827u3f077760m477da7b34f7f02e1@mail.gmail.com> <7F393466-7AE3-46F1-8BB7-2C41224C6CEB@c2group.net> Message-ID: <44DEB048.90701@jrock.us> Yeah sounds fine. BTW, Is this dinner dinner only or are there talks as well? Kent Cowgill wrote: > Thursday works for me, and 5:30 seems convenient enough for me. > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 370 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/chicago-talk/attachments/20060812/0c24e33c/attachment.bin From jon at jrock.us Sat Aug 12 22:22:53 2006 From: jon at jrock.us (Jonathan Rockway) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 00:22:53 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Advice on writing a book? Message-ID: <44DEB72D.2080604@jrock.us> I know there are a few authors on the list, and I'm interested in hearing their advice / experiences. Basically, I've wanted to write a book for some time, but wasn't really sure of the topic. Now, I am sure: I'd like to write a book about the Catalyst framework. Catalyst is just as good as Rails (well, better, actually), but there isn't any marketing for it. I think that a well-written O'Reilly book would really help the PHBs realize that Catalyst is an excellent platform for web apps. I mentioned this on the Catalyst developer list, and the consensus was that "well Catalyst has some POD docs, so that would be a waste". I would feel bad going behind their backs and writing a book that I would personally profit from (having not written a single line of the Catalyst core). But I do feel qualified to write the book - I've written two major apps on Catalyst, and am willing to devote the time to clearly explain the concepts to newbies (and write the necessary example code, etc). Any thoughts here? Is it OK to write a book on something you didn't write? Would it upset anyone? Can I just put together an outline, and e-mail it to O'Reilly? Is there some procedure? How can I prove that I'm qualified? Anyway, thanks in advance for any insight. Regards, Jonathan Rockway -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <44DEB72D.2080604@jrock.us> References: <44DEB72D.2080604@jrock.us> Message-ID: <200608130403.17598.arodland@comcast.net> On Sunday 13 August 2006 12:22 am, Jonathan Rockway wrote: > I know there are a few authors on the list, and I'm interested in > hearing their advice / experiences. > > Basically, I've wanted to write a book for some time, but wasn't really > sure of the topic. Now, I am sure: I'd like to write a book about the > Catalyst framework. Catalyst is just as good as Rails (well, better, > actually), but there isn't any marketing for it. I think that a > well-written O'Reilly book would really help the PHBs realize that > Catalyst is an excellent platform for web apps. > > I mentioned this on the Catalyst developer list, and the consensus was > that "well Catalyst has some POD docs, so that would be a waste". > > I would feel bad going behind their backs and writing a book that I > would personally profit from (having not written a single line of the > Catalyst core). But I do feel qualified to write the book - I've > written two major apps on Catalyst, and am willing to devote the time to > clearly explain the concepts to newbies (and write the necessary example > code, etc). > > Any thoughts here? Is it OK to write a book on something you didn't > write? Would it upset anyone? Well... I'm no author, and I'm not qualified to offer book-writing or -submitting advice, but that said... :) Catalyst could use some recognition. A book that I could point out to people would be _great_. If I could learn something new from the book, that would be doubly good, but a simple introduction would still be invaluable. Yes, the fact that you're not an "insider" could end up being a bit uncomfortable, but if you think that you can really do a good job, I don't think you should let that stop you. If the "Catalyst guys" let the opportunity pass, and you can contribute something to the community, then nobody has a place stopping you. Whatever you end up doing, here's to success. Andrew From mrnicksgirl at gmail.com Sun Aug 13 08:23:48 2006 From: mrnicksgirl at gmail.com (Nola Stowe) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 10:23:48 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <44DEB048.90701@jrock.us> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <44A236FD-96B0-4258-B7B2-0E3F1D6E4AE8@c2group.net> <43e95380608120619t72439f95g82b41b7048416c63@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608120827u3f077760m477da7b34f7f02e1@mail.gmail.com> <7F393466-7AE3-46F1-8BB7-2C41224C6CEB@c2group.net> <44DEB048.90701@jrock.us> Message-ID: <43e95380608130823g64abdc38ke012b1b99eb4f113@mail.gmail.com> Josh can you get Performics meeting room? On 8/12/06, Jonathan Rockway wrote: > Yeah sounds fine. BTW, Is this dinner dinner only or are there talks as > well? > > Kent Cowgill wrote: > > Thursday works for me, and 5:30 seems convenient enough for me. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > > > -- http://phpgirl.blogspot.com http://AnythingButPHP.blogspot.com http://CodeSnipers.com From jt at plainblack.com Sun Aug 13 09:26:27 2006 From: jt at plainblack.com (JT Smith) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 11:26:27 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Advice on writing a book? In-Reply-To: <44DEB72D.2080604@jrock.us> References: <44DEB72D.2080604@jrock.us> Message-ID: > I know there are a few authors on the list, and I'm interested in > hearing their advice / experiences. I've written four books now. One fiction book for a mass audience, and three technical books for products of the companies I've worked for to be distributed with the product. In none of those cases did I have to seek out a publisher, so I can't offer any advice about what O'Reilly will want, but I can offer some about the other things. First and foremost, I think if you've got the book in you, you should write it. Whether it gets picked up by O'Reilly or Sams or whomever, the community will benefit from your book. That said, you may only be interested in doing it if you get paid for it. That's fine, but you need to decide that before you start writing anything. If you're doing it for yourself, that's one outline. If you're doing it for a publisher, they may have specific requirements, or subject matter they wish you to cover. For example, the books I wrote about the company products: one was supposed to be a reference, one instructional, and one was sort of both with a bit of cookbook thrown in. Second, before committing to write a book, make sure you have a book's worth of material in you. There are two potential problems you may face here. The first is motivation. Do you actually have the gumption to see it through to the end? Writing a book is not a short endeavor, you won't crank it out in a weekend. For me, motivation was always the toughest thing. The second is in material. Do you have enough material in your head from the projects you've done to write a whole book, or will you need to do additional research? And if you do need the research, is that something you are willing to do or have the time to do in addition to writing the book? Third, you need to make sure you have the time to be timely. The funny thing about writing a book, espeicially on a technical subject, is that you're writing to a moving target. If you take 6-12 months to write the book, and then the publisher takes 1-3 months to mull/format/revise/publish the book then your content will likely be outdated by the time the first book hits a store shelf. I've heard that O'Reilly is really quick on their end, so it's really more about your time, than theirs, but it's no less important. So you need to ask yourself, do you have enough time to put in over a short span to write an entire book? I hope you don't take these points as discouragement. I would never want to discourage anyone from writing a book. These are just some of the things I had to learn while writing books in the past, and I hope by sharing them that I can reduce your learning curve. JT ~ Plain Black ph: 703-286-2525 ext. 810 fax: 312-264-5382 http://www.plainblack.com I reject your reality, and substitute my own. ~ Adam Savage From frag at ripco.com Mon Aug 14 06:55:13 2006 From: frag at ripco.com (Mike Fragassi) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 08:55:13 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <49d805d70608120827u3f077760m477da7b34f7f02e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <44A236FD-96B0-4258-B7B2-0E3F1D6E4AE8@c2group.net> <43e95380608120619t72439f95g82b41b7048416c63@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608120827u3f077760m477da7b34f7f02e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 12 Aug 2006, Joshua McAdams wrote: > > Ok since nobody has picked a day ....I'm predicting I'll still be sick > > on monday and I'm busy tuesday, wednesday I am going to PHP User Group > > ......... how about thursday or friday?? > > I vot for Thursday. Sorry Andy, but have a good time at the Linux Conference! I can't be there Thursday. -- Mike F. From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Mon Aug 14 07:41:06 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:41:06 -0400 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <43e95380608130823g64abdc38ke012b1b99eb4f113@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <44A236FD-96B0-4258-B7B2-0E3F1D6E4AE8@c2group.net> <43e95380608120619t72439f95g82b41b7048416c63@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608120827u3f077760m477da7b34f7f02e1@mail.gmail.com> <7F393466-7AE3-46F1-8BB7-2C41224C6CEB@c2group.net> <44DEB048.90701@jrock.us> <43e95380608130823g64abdc38ke012b1b99eb4f113@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70608140741r7606be9j29c8c3ffc2286ad7@mail.gmail.com> > Josh can you get Performics meeting room? I can. Do you want to make this dinner and talks... dinner/drinks at the bar at 5:30 and then migrate over to Performics afterward for talks? From jon at jrock.us Mon Aug 14 07:49:52 2006 From: jon at jrock.us (Jonathan Rockway) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 09:49:52 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <49d805d70608140741r7606be9j29c8c3ffc2286ad7@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <44A236FD-96B0-4258-B7B2-0E3F1D6E4AE8@c2group.net> <43e95380608120619t72439f95g82b41b7048416c63@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608120827u3f077760m477da7b34f7f02e1@mail.gmail.com> <7F393466-7AE3-46F1-8BB7-2C41224C6CEB@c2group.net> <44DEB048.90701@jrock.us> <43e95380608130823g64abdc38ke012b1b99eb4f113@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608140741r7606be9j29c8c3ffc2286ad7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44E08D90.7000705@jrock.us> > Do you want to make this dinner and talks... dinner/drinks at > the bar at 5:30 and then migrate over to Performics afterward for > talks? Isn't it better to have drinks *after* the talks? Drunken Perl Mongers are scary.... From mrnicksgirl at gmail.com Mon Aug 14 07:51:37 2006 From: mrnicksgirl at gmail.com (Nola Stowe) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 09:51:37 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <49d805d70608140741r7606be9j29c8c3ffc2286ad7@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <44A236FD-96B0-4258-B7B2-0E3F1D6E4AE8@c2group.net> <43e95380608120619t72439f95g82b41b7048416c63@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608120827u3f077760m477da7b34f7f02e1@mail.gmail.com> <7F393466-7AE3-46F1-8BB7-2C41224C6CEB@c2group.net> <44DEB048.90701@jrock.us> <43e95380608130823g64abdc38ke012b1b99eb4f113@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608140741r7606be9j29c8c3ffc2286ad7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43e95380608140751t4b6a7489s529555eef85a48c3@mail.gmail.com> Ok .. since Frag can't do thursday (and he said he'd like to update the presentation) .. can we just do friday dinner/drinks? and meet next week? On 8/14/06, Joshua McAdams wrote: > > Josh can you get Performics meeting room? > > I can. Do you want to make this dinner and talks... dinner/drinks at > the bar at 5:30 and then migrate over to Performics afterward for > talks? > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -- http://phpgirl.blogspot.com http://AnythingButPHP.blogspot.com http://CodeSnipers.com From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Mon Aug 14 10:55:02 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:55:02 -0400 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <43e95380608140751t4b6a7489s529555eef85a48c3@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <44A236FD-96B0-4258-B7B2-0E3F1D6E4AE8@c2group.net> <43e95380608120619t72439f95g82b41b7048416c63@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608120827u3f077760m477da7b34f7f02e1@mail.gmail.com> <7F393466-7AE3-46F1-8BB7-2C41224C6CEB@c2group.net> <44DEB048.90701@jrock.us> <43e95380608130823g64abdc38ke012b1b99eb4f113@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608140741r7606be9j29c8c3ffc2286ad7@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608140751t4b6a7489s529555eef85a48c3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70608141055q53b0117fua0ecd5f2865f81c2@mail.gmail.com> > Ok .. since Frag can't do thursday (and he said he'd like to update > the presentation) .. can we just do friday dinner/drinks? and meet > next week? I'll book performics for next week... let's say next Tuesday, August 22nd. As far as dinner this week, Thursday or Friday work fine for me. Jonathon and Kent have both said Thursday is fine, but that's all I've heard. If they are cool with Friday instead, then that works for me too. From jon at jrock.us Mon Aug 14 11:15:57 2006 From: jon at jrock.us (Jonathan Rockway) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:15:57 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <49d805d70608141055q53b0117fua0ecd5f2865f81c2@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <44A236FD-96B0-4258-B7B2-0E3F1D6E4AE8@c2group.net> <43e95380608120619t72439f95g82b41b7048416c63@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608120827u3f077760m477da7b34f7f02e1@mail.gmail.com> <7F393466-7AE3-46F1-8BB7-2C41224C6CEB@c2group.net> <44DEB048.90701@jrock.us> <43e95380608130823g64abdc38ke012b1b99eb4f113@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608140741r7606be9j29c8c3ffc2286ad7@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608140751t4b6a7489s529555eef85a48c3@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608141055q53b0117fua0ecd5f2865f81c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44E0BDDD.70706@jrock.us> Friday's fine. Actually any day is fine; so whatever works for everyone else works for me. Joshua McAdams wrote: >> Ok .. since Frag can't do thursday (and he said he'd like to update >> the presentation) .. can we just do friday dinner/drinks? and meet >> next week? >> > > I'll book performics for next week... let's say next Tuesday, August > 22nd. As far as dinner this week, Thursday or Friday work fine for > me. Jonathon and Kent have both said Thursday is fine, but that's all > I've heard. If they are cool with Friday instead, then that works for > me too. > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > From ccf3 at mindspring.com Mon Aug 14 12:07:06 2006 From: ccf3 at mindspring.com (Clyde Forrester) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:07:06 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <44A236FD-96B0-4258-B7B2-0E3F1D6E4AE8@c2group.net> <43e95380608120619t72439f95g82b41b7048416c63@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608120827u3f077760m477da7b34f7f02e1@mail.gmail.com> <7F393466-7AE3-46F1-8BB7-2C41224C6CEB@c2group.net> <44DEB048.90701@jrock.us> <43e95380608130823g64abdc38ke012b1b99eb4f113@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608140741r7606be9j29c8c3ffc2286ad7@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608140751t4b6a7489s529555eef85a48c3@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608141055q53b0117fua0ecd5f2865f81c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44E0C9DA.4020901@mindspring.com> Joshua McAdams wrote: >>Ok .. since Frag can't do thursday (and he said he'd like to update >>the presentation) .. can we just do friday dinner/drinks? and meet >>next week? >> > >I'll book performics for next week... let's say next Tuesday, August >22nd. As far as dinner this week, Thursday or Friday work fine for >me. Jonathon and Kent have both said Thursday is fine, but that's all >I've heard. If they are cool with Friday instead, then that works for >me too. > The Uniforum meeting on securing PCs in on Tuesday, August 22nd. http://www.uniforum.chi.il.us/ From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Mon Aug 14 12:18:07 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:18:07 -0400 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <44E0C9DA.4020901@mindspring.com> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608120619t72439f95g82b41b7048416c63@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608120827u3f077760m477da7b34f7f02e1@mail.gmail.com> <7F393466-7AE3-46F1-8BB7-2C41224C6CEB@c2group.net> <44DEB048.90701@jrock.us> <43e95380608130823g64abdc38ke012b1b99eb4f113@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608140741r7606be9j29c8c3ffc2286ad7@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608140751t4b6a7489s529555eef85a48c3@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608141055q53b0117fua0ecd5f2865f81c2@mail.gmail.com> <44E0C9DA.4020901@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70608141218h34693797ied37adb7e049398d@mail.gmail.com> > The Uniforum meeting on securing PCs in on Tuesday, August 22nd. > http://www.uniforum.chi.il.us/ Hm, anybody know of anything on Thursday? From jon at jrock.us Mon Aug 14 12:24:05 2006 From: jon at jrock.us (Jonathan Rockway) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:24:05 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Uniforum In-Reply-To: <44E0C9DA.4020901@mindspring.com> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <44A236FD-96B0-4258-B7B2-0E3F1D6E4AE8@c2group.net> <43e95380608120619t72439f95g82b41b7048416c63@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608120827u3f077760m477da7b34f7f02e1@mail.gmail.com> <7F393466-7AE3-46F1-8BB7-2C41224C6CEB@c2group.net> <44DEB048.90701@jrock.us> <43e95380608130823g64abdc38ke012b1b99eb4f113@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608140741r7606be9j29c8c3ffc2286ad7@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608140751t4b6a7489s529555eef85a48c3@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608141055q53b0117fua0ecd5f2865f81c2@mail.gmail.com> <44E0C9DA.4020901@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <44E0CDD5.2060503@jrock.us> BTW, what's with having the uni-forum meetings as far away from public transportation as possible? Some people don't drive, ya know :) From bdoty at efs-us.com Mon Aug 14 12:45:01 2006 From: bdoty at efs-us.com (Brad Doty) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:45:01 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner this week Message-ID: Sounds like you need to set up another Wiki and vote for various days. ;- ] From mrnicksgirl at gmail.com Mon Aug 14 12:45:18 2006 From: mrnicksgirl at gmail.com (Nola Stowe) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:45:18 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <49d805d70608141218h34693797ied37adb7e049398d@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608120827u3f077760m477da7b34f7f02e1@mail.gmail.com> <7F393466-7AE3-46F1-8BB7-2C41224C6CEB@c2group.net> <44DEB048.90701@jrock.us> <43e95380608130823g64abdc38ke012b1b99eb4f113@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608140741r7606be9j29c8c3ffc2286ad7@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608140751t4b6a7489s529555eef85a48c3@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608141055q53b0117fua0ecd5f2865f81c2@mail.gmail.com> <44E0C9DA.4020901@mindspring.com> <49d805d70608141218h34693797ied37adb7e049398d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43e95380608141245u621b741t851703fd3478e4b7@mail.gmail.com> a Aug 24, Thursday Perl meeting is good for me.... hey maybe our fearless leader Andy will even be in town On 8/14/06, Joshua McAdams wrote: > > The Uniforum meeting on securing PCs in on Tuesday, August 22nd. > > http://www.uniforum.chi.il.us/ > > Hm, anybody know of anything on Thursday? > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -- http://phpgirl.blogspot.com http://AnythingButPHP.blogspot.com http://CodeSnipers.com From andy at petdance.com Mon Aug 14 14:29:18 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:29:18 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Uniforum In-Reply-To: <44E0CDD5.2060503@jrock.us> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <44A236FD-96B0-4258-B7B2-0E3F1D6E4AE8@c2group.net> <43e95380608120619t72439f95g82b41b7048416c63@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608120827u3f077760m477da7b34f7f02e1@mail.gmail.com> <7F393466-7AE3-46F1-8BB7-2C41224C6CEB@c2group.net> <44DEB048.90701@jrock.us> <43e95380608130823g64abdc38ke012b1b99eb4f113@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608140741r7606be9j29c8c3ffc2286ad7@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608140751t4b6a7489s529555eef85a48c3@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608141055q53b0117fua0ecd5f2865f81c2@mail.gmail.com> <44E0C9DA.4020901@mindspring.com> <44E0CDD5.2060503@jrock.us> Message-ID: <80C9708F-86C6-4704-B213-9D288E2671A4@petdance.com> On Aug 14, 2006, at 2:24 PM, Jonathan Rockway wrote: > BTW, what's with having the uni-forum meetings as far away from public > transportation as possible? Some people don't drive, ya know :) You'd have to ask them. We're not Uniforum. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From andy at petdance.com Mon Aug 14 14:31:40 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:31:40 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <43e95380608141245u621b741t851703fd3478e4b7@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608120827u3f077760m477da7b34f7f02e1@mail.gmail.com> <7F393466-7AE3-46F1-8BB7-2C41224C6CEB@c2group.net> <44DEB048.90701@jrock.us> <43e95380608130823g64abdc38ke012b1b99eb4f113@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608140741r7606be9j29c8c3ffc2286ad7@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608140751t4b6a7489s529555eef85a48c3@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608141055q53b0117fua0ecd5f2865f81c2@mail.gmail.com> <44E0C9DA.4020901@mindspring.com> <49d805d70608141218h34693797ied37adb7e049398d@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608141245u621b741t851703fd3478e4b7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <80B5FF0C-26D2-49C1-B2B9-A9EBA9985597@petdance.com> On Aug 14, 2006, at 2:45 PM, Nola Stowe wrote: > a Aug 24, Thursday Perl meeting is good for me.... hey maybe our > fearless leader Andy will even be in town I will be. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From jon at jrock.us Mon Aug 14 14:36:09 2006 From: jon at jrock.us (Jonathan Rockway) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 16:36:09 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Uniforum In-Reply-To: <80C9708F-86C6-4704-B213-9D288E2671A4@petdance.com> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <44A236FD-96B0-4258-B7B2-0E3F1D6E4AE8@c2group.net> <43e95380608120619t72439f95g82b41b7048416c63@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608120827u3f077760m477da7b34f7f02e1@mail.gmail.com> <7F393466-7AE3-46F1-8BB7-2C41224C6CEB@c2group.net> <44DEB048.90701@jrock.us> <43e95380608130823g64abdc38ke012b1b99eb4f113@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608140741r7606be9j29c8c3ffc2286ad7@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608140751t4b6a7489s529555eef85a48c3@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608141055q53b0117fua0ecd5f2865f81c2@mail.gmail.com> <44E0C9DA.4020901@mindspring.com> <44E0CDD5.2060503@jrock.us> <80C9708F-86C6-4704-B213-9D288E2671A4@petdance.com> Message-ID: <44E0ECC9.4000406@jrock.us> :) That was more of a rant than an actual question. It seems that *everything* is at the IIT Rice Campus. Why not have it at the IIT downtown campus instead? It worked for YAPC. >> BTW, what's with having the uni-forum meetings as far away from public >> transportation as possible? Some people don't drive, ya know :) >> > You'd have to ask them. We're not Uniforum. From arodland at comcast.net Mon Aug 14 15:56:55 2006 From: arodland at comcast.net (Andrew Rodland) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 17:56:55 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Uniforum In-Reply-To: <44E0ECC9.4000406@jrock.us> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <80C9708F-86C6-4704-B213-9D288E2671A4@petdance.com> <44E0ECC9.4000406@jrock.us> Message-ID: <200608141756.55231.arodland@comcast.net> On Monday 14 August 2006 4:36 pm, Jonathan Rockway wrote: > :) > > That was more of a rant than an actual question. It seems that > *everything* is at the IIT Rice Campus. Why not have it at the IIT > downtown campus instead? It worked for YAPC. Because they're the "not downtown" group? :) Andrew From mrnicksgirl at gmail.com Mon Aug 14 17:35:34 2006 From: mrnicksgirl at gmail.com (Nola Stowe) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 19:35:34 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <80B5FF0C-26D2-49C1-B2B9-A9EBA9985597@petdance.com> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <44DEB048.90701@jrock.us> <43e95380608130823g64abdc38ke012b1b99eb4f113@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608140741r7606be9j29c8c3ffc2286ad7@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608140751t4b6a7489s529555eef85a48c3@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608141055q53b0117fua0ecd5f2865f81c2@mail.gmail.com> <44E0C9DA.4020901@mindspring.com> <49d805d70608141218h34693797ied37adb7e049398d@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608141245u621b741t851703fd3478e4b7@mail.gmail.com> <80B5FF0C-26D2-49C1-B2B9-A9EBA9985597@petdance.com> Message-ID: <43e95380608141735y2ded7113m62d560fe3fb6ee7c@mail.gmail.com> Welll ... I just find out my husband has plans friday .. :( Have a beer for me! I like the dark coffee like flavored one at Rock Bottom :) yum On 8/14/06, Andy Lester wrote: > > On Aug 14, 2006, at 2:45 PM, Nola Stowe wrote: > > > a Aug 24, Thursday Perl meeting is good for me.... hey maybe our > > fearless leader Andy will even be in town > > > I will be. > > -- > Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -- http://phpgirl.blogspot.com http://AnythingButPHP.blogspot.com http://CodeSnipers.com From jason at multiply.org Mon Aug 14 19:30:37 2006 From: jason at multiply.org (jason gessner) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:30:37 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <43e95380608141245u621b741t851703fd3478e4b7@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608120827u3f077760m477da7b34f7f02e1@mail.gmail.com> <7F393466-7AE3-46F1-8BB7-2C41224C6CEB@c2group.net> <44DEB048.90701@jrock.us> <43e95380608130823g64abdc38ke012b1b99eb4f113@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608140741r7606be9j29c8c3ffc2286ad7@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608140751t4b6a7489s529555eef85a48c3@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608141055q53b0117fua0ecd5f2865f81c2@mail.gmail.com> <44E0C9DA.4020901@mindspring.com> <49d805d70608141218h34693797ied37adb7e049398d@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608141245u621b741t851703fd3478e4b7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <86B918C4-14A1-4490-BBF2-714A0CE623C2@multiply.org> On Aug 14, 2006, at 2:45 PM, Nola Stowe wrote: > a Aug 24, Thursday Perl meeting is good for me.... hey maybe our > fearless leader Andy will even be in town we have a leader? Damn, we should be somewhere by now. I thought we were all just kind of milling about. -jason From kent at c2group.net Mon Aug 14 19:38:12 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:38:12 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <43e95380608141735y2ded7113m62d560fe3fb6ee7c@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <44DEB048.90701@jrock.us> <43e95380608130823g64abdc38ke012b1b99eb4f113@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608140741r7606be9j29c8c3ffc2286ad7@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608140751t4b6a7489s529555eef85a48c3@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608141055q53b0117fua0ecd5f2865f81c2@mail.gmail.com> <44E0C9DA.4020901@mindspring.com> <49d805d70608141218h34693797ied37adb7e049398d@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608141245u621b741t851703fd3478e4b7@mail.gmail.com> <80B5FF0C-26D2-49C1-B2B9-A9EBA9985597@petdance.com> <43e95380608141735y2ded7113m62d560fe3fb6ee7c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A411F6F-73A2-45FF-86E3-41EF00161242@c2group.net> Yeah, Friday is less good for me. Wife's finally home from Italy on Wednesday - Thursday I can get away with, Friday not so much. Besides, who really needs Frag at the dinner/drink thing? :) As long as he's at the talk thing next week, his purposes are served. =D -Kent Cowgill C2 Group, Inc. kent at c2group.net http://www.c2group.net 312.804.0160 On Aug 14, 2006, at 7:35 PM, Nola Stowe wrote: > Welll ... I just find out my husband has plans friday .. :( > > Have a beer for me! I like the dark coffee like flavored one at Rock > Bottom :) yum > > > On 8/14/06, Andy Lester wrote: >> >> On Aug 14, 2006, at 2:45 PM, Nola Stowe wrote: >> >>> a Aug 24, Thursday Perl meeting is good for me.... hey maybe our >>> fearless leader Andy will even be in town >> >> >> I will be. >> >> -- >> Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago-talk mailing list >> Chicago-talk at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk >> > > > -- > http://phpgirl.blogspot.com > http://AnythingButPHP.blogspot.com > http://CodeSnipers.com > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > From mrnicksgirl at gmail.com Mon Aug 14 19:41:14 2006 From: mrnicksgirl at gmail.com (Nola Stowe) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:41:14 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <4A411F6F-73A2-45FF-86E3-41EF00161242@c2group.net> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608140741r7606be9j29c8c3ffc2286ad7@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608140751t4b6a7489s529555eef85a48c3@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608141055q53b0117fua0ecd5f2865f81c2@mail.gmail.com> <44E0C9DA.4020901@mindspring.com> <49d805d70608141218h34693797ied37adb7e049398d@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608141245u621b741t851703fd3478e4b7@mail.gmail.com> <80B5FF0C-26D2-49C1-B2B9-A9EBA9985597@petdance.com> <43e95380608141735y2ded7113m62d560fe3fb6ee7c@mail.gmail.com> <4A411F6F-73A2-45FF-86E3-41EF00161242@c2group.net> Message-ID: <43e95380608141941r66bf130l92b9a0199950a957@mail.gmail.com> Ok Josh .. you pick... thursday or friday :) On 8/14/06, Kent Cowgill wrote: > Yeah, Friday is less good for me. Wife's finally home from Italy on > Wednesday - Thursday I can get away with, Friday not so much. > > Besides, who really needs Frag at the dinner/drink thing? :) As long > as he's at the talk thing next week, his purposes are served. =D > > -Kent Cowgill > > C2 Group, Inc. > kent at c2group.net > http://www.c2group.net > 312.804.0160 > > > On Aug 14, 2006, at 7:35 PM, Nola Stowe wrote: > > > Welll ... I just find out my husband has plans friday .. :( > > > > Have a beer for me! I like the dark coffee like flavored one at Rock > > Bottom :) yum > > > > > > On 8/14/06, Andy Lester wrote: > >> > >> On Aug 14, 2006, at 2:45 PM, Nola Stowe wrote: > >> > >>> a Aug 24, Thursday Perl meeting is good for me.... hey maybe our > >>> fearless leader Andy will even be in town > >> > >> > >> I will be. > >> > >> -- > >> Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago-talk mailing list > >> Chicago-talk at pm.org > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > >> > > > > > > -- > > http://phpgirl.blogspot.com > > http://AnythingButPHP.blogspot.com > > http://CodeSnipers.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago-talk mailing list > > Chicago-talk at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -- http://phpgirl.blogspot.com http://AnythingButPHP.blogspot.com http://CodeSnipers.com From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Mon Aug 14 20:44:38 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 22:44:38 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <43e95380608141941r66bf130l92b9a0199950a957@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608140751t4b6a7489s529555eef85a48c3@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608141055q53b0117fua0ecd5f2865f81c2@mail.gmail.com> <44E0C9DA.4020901@mindspring.com> <49d805d70608141218h34693797ied37adb7e049398d@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608141245u621b741t851703fd3478e4b7@mail.gmail.com> <80B5FF0C-26D2-49C1-B2B9-A9EBA9985597@petdance.com> <43e95380608141735y2ded7113m62d560fe3fb6ee7c@mail.gmail.com> <4A411F6F-73A2-45FF-86E3-41EF00161242@c2group.net> <43e95380608141941r66bf130l92b9a0199950a957@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70608142044l76501c77xab35cba36b0fe77e@mail.gmail.com> > Ok Josh .. you pick... thursday or friday :) I'll be greedy and say Thursday because it works better for me... seems to work better for most other people too. From frag at ripco.com Mon Aug 14 20:54:28 2006 From: frag at ripco.com (Mike Fragassi) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 22:54:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <4A411F6F-73A2-45FF-86E3-41EF00161242@c2group.net> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <44DEB048.90701@jrock.us> <43e95380608130823g64abdc38ke012b1b99eb4f113@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608140741r7606be9j29c8c3ffc2286ad7@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608140751t4b6a7489s529555eef85a48c3@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608141055q53b0117fua0ecd5f2865f81c2@mail.gmail.com> <44E0C9DA.4020901@mindspring.com> <49d805d70608141218h34693797ied37adb7e049398d@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608141245u621b741t851703fd3478e4b7@mail.gmail.com> <80B5FF0C-26D2-49C1-B2B9-A9EBA9985597@petdance.com> <43e95380608141735y2ded7113m62d560fe3fb6ee7c@mail.gmail.com> <4A411F6F-73A2-45FF-86E3-41EF00161242@c2group.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Kent Cowgill wrote: > Yeah, Friday is less good for me. Wife's finally home from Italy on > Wednesday - Thursday I can get away with, Friday not so much. > > Besides, who really needs Frag at the dinner/drink thing? :) As long > as he's at the talk thing next week, his purposes are served. =D Well, in that case, I don't wanna go to yer stinky ol' dinner. 2 other possibilies: 1) Next week 2) Both nights -- Mike F. From frag at ripco.com Mon Aug 14 22:13:34 2006 From: frag at ripco.com (Mike Fragassi) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 00:13:34 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <49d805d70608142044l76501c77xab35cba36b0fe77e@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608140751t4b6a7489s529555eef85a48c3@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608141055q53b0117fua0ecd5f2865f81c2@mail.gmail.com> <44E0C9DA.4020901@mindspring.com> <49d805d70608141218h34693797ied37adb7e049398d@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608141245u621b741t851703fd3478e4b7@mail.gmail.com> <80B5FF0C-26D2-49C1-B2B9-A9EBA9985597@petdance.com> <43e95380608141735y2ded7113m62d560fe3fb6ee7c@mail.gmail.com> <4A411F6F-73A2-45FF-86E3-41EF00161242@c2group.net> <43e95380608141941r66bf130l92b9a0199950a957@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608142044l76501c77xab35cba36b0fe77e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Joshua McAdams wrote: > > Ok Josh .. you pick... thursday or friday :) > > I'll be greedy and say Thursday because it works better for me... > seems to work better for most other people too. OK, then. But I now feel justified in inflicting upon you a explanation for why I can't hang out this Thursday. Every Thursday evening in Bucktown for the last few years, I've been tutoring middle-schoolers from the public schools. (http://www.midtown-metro.org -- and note: I had *nothing* to do with the making of that site.) It's basically a Big Brother/Big Sister type program, with a structured set-up, meeting one student 2 hours a week in a classroom, with other student/tutor pairs also in the room, and focused on helping them in school. The kids in the program all specifically choose to be in it because they actually want to do better in school, but need extra help: tutoring, but also maybe motivation, and some role models, i.e., someone who successfully completed high school, let alone college. (No joke; the high school graduation rate in Chicago is only around %55.) And it so happens that they need volunteers for the fall! If this sounds interesting to you, even just to check it out for a week to see if it's something you want to do, let me know. If you volunteer, there are 3 possible times to choose: Tuesday evenings, Thursday evenings, or Saturday mornings (10 to noon). Now, assuming your spam filters haven't already killed this message, I'd like to also note that I'm also running a 5k for them this Saturday on the lakefront. Although this is my first 5k ever, so by "running" I mean "attempting to run, probably staggering in a delirious haze after the halfway point". So, seeing as you're all going to be having fun without me, does anyone want to pony up some cash and sponsor me? Don't do it for me, do it to ease your guilty consciences for ostracizing me from your reindeer/camel games. Oh, and for the children. -- Mike F. From e.ellington at gmail.com Tue Aug 15 06:42:45 2006 From: e.ellington at gmail.com (Eric Ellington) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:42:45 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <44E0C9DA.4020901@mindspring.com> <49d805d70608141218h34693797ied37adb7e049398d@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608141245u621b741t851703fd3478e4b7@mail.gmail.com> <80B5FF0C-26D2-49C1-B2B9-A9EBA9985597@petdance.com> <43e95380608141735y2ded7113m62d560fe3fb6ee7c@mail.gmail.com> <4A411F6F-73A2-45FF-86E3-41EF00161242@c2group.net> <43e95380608141941r66bf130l92b9a0199950a957@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608142044l76501c77xab35cba36b0fe77e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I am so lost on what dates things may or may not happen on.... On 8/15/06, Mike Fragassi wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Joshua McAdams wrote: > > > > Ok Josh .. you pick... thursday or friday :) > > > > I'll be greedy and say Thursday because it works better for me... > > seems to work better for most other people too. > > OK, then. But I now feel justified in inflicting upon you a explanation > for why I can't hang out this Thursday. Every Thursday evening in > Bucktown for the last few years, I've been tutoring middle-schoolers from > the public schools. (http://www.midtown-metro.org -- and note: I had > *nothing* to do with the making of that site.) > > It's basically a Big Brother/Big Sister type program, with a structured > set-up, meeting one student 2 hours a week in a classroom, with other > student/tutor pairs also in the room, and focused on helping them in > school. The kids in the program all specifically choose to be in it > because they actually want to do better in school, but need extra help: > tutoring, but also maybe motivation, and some role models, i.e., someone > who successfully completed high school, let alone college. (No joke; the > high school graduation rate in Chicago is only around %55.) > > And it so happens that they need volunteers for the fall! If this sounds > interesting to you, even just to check it out for a week to see if it's > something you want to do, let me know. If you volunteer, there are 3 > possible times to choose: Tuesday evenings, Thursday evenings, or Saturday > mornings (10 to noon). > > Now, assuming your spam filters haven't already killed this message, I'd > like to also note that I'm also running a 5k for them this Saturday on the > lakefront. Although this is my first 5k ever, so by "running" I mean > "attempting to run, probably staggering in a delirious haze after the > halfway point". So, seeing as you're all going to be having fun without > me, does anyone want to pony up some cash and sponsor me? Don't do it for > me, do it to ease your guilty consciences for ostracizing me from your > reindeer/camel games. Oh, and for the children. > > -- Mike F. > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -- Eric Ellington e.ellington at gmail.com From mrnicksgirl at gmail.com Tue Aug 15 06:52:23 2006 From: mrnicksgirl at gmail.com (Nola Stowe) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 08:52:23 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608141218h34693797ied37adb7e049398d@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608141245u621b741t851703fd3478e4b7@mail.gmail.com> <80B5FF0C-26D2-49C1-B2B9-A9EBA9985597@petdance.com> <43e95380608141735y2ded7113m62d560fe3fb6ee7c@mail.gmail.com> <4A411F6F-73A2-45FF-86E3-41EF00161242@c2group.net> <43e95380608141941r66bf130l92b9a0199950a957@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608142044l76501c77xab35cba36b0fe77e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43e95380608150652u100c0ab4y3f184a2c528908c8@mail.gmail.com> Dinner Thursday this week, Aug 17 - 5:30, Rock Bottom, State & Grand Uniform Meeting Tuesday, NEXT week, Aug 22 Chicago PM Meeting Thursday, NEXT week, Aug 24 :) On 8/15/06, Eric Ellington wrote: > I am so lost on what dates things may or may not happen on.... > > On 8/15/06, Mike Fragassi wrote: > > > > On Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Joshua McAdams wrote: > > > > > > Ok Josh .. you pick... thursday or friday :) > > > > > > I'll be greedy and say Thursday because it works better for me... > > > seems to work better for most other people too. > > > > OK, then. But I now feel justified in inflicting upon you a explanation > > for why I can't hang out this Thursday. Every Thursday evening in > > Bucktown for the last few years, I've been tutoring middle-schoolers from > > the public schools. (http://www.midtown-metro.org -- and note: I had > > *nothing* to do with the making of that site.) > > > > It's basically a Big Brother/Big Sister type program, with a structured > > set-up, meeting one student 2 hours a week in a classroom, with other > > student/tutor pairs also in the room, and focused on helping them in > > school. The kids in the program all specifically choose to be in it > > because they actually want to do better in school, but need extra help: > > tutoring, but also maybe motivation, and some role models, i.e., someone > > who successfully completed high school, let alone college. (No joke; the > > high school graduation rate in Chicago is only around %55.) > > > > And it so happens that they need volunteers for the fall! If this sounds > > interesting to you, even just to check it out for a week to see if it's > > something you want to do, let me know. If you volunteer, there are 3 > > possible times to choose: Tuesday evenings, Thursday evenings, or Saturday > > mornings (10 to noon). > > > > Now, assuming your spam filters haven't already killed this message, I'd > > like to also note that I'm also running a 5k for them this Saturday on the > > lakefront. Although this is my first 5k ever, so by "running" I mean > > "attempting to run, probably staggering in a delirious haze after the > > halfway point". So, seeing as you're all going to be having fun without > > me, does anyone want to pony up some cash and sponsor me? Don't do it for > > me, do it to ease your guilty consciences for ostracizing me from your > > reindeer/camel games. Oh, and for the children. > > > > -- Mike F. > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago-talk mailing list > > Chicago-talk at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > > > > > -- > Eric Ellington > e.ellington at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -- http://phpgirl.blogspot.com http://AnythingButPHP.blogspot.com http://CodeSnipers.com From frag at ripco.com Tue Aug 15 07:39:57 2006 From: frag at ripco.com (Mike Fragassi) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:39:57 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <43e95380608150652u100c0ab4y3f184a2c528908c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608141218h34693797ied37adb7e049398d@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608141245u621b741t851703fd3478e4b7@mail.gmail.com> <80B5FF0C-26D2-49C1-B2B9-A9EBA9985597@petdance.com> <43e95380608141735y2ded7113m62d560fe3fb6ee7c@mail.gmail.com> <4A411F6F-73A2-45FF-86E3-41EF00161242@c2group.net> <43e95380608141941r66bf130l92b9a0199950a957@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608142044l76501c77xab35cba36b0fe77e@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608150652u100c0ab4y3f184a2c528908c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Aug 2006, Nola Stowe wrote: > Dinner Thursday this week, Aug 17 - 5:30, Rock Bottom, State & Grand > Uniform Meeting Tuesday, NEXT week, Aug 22 > Chicago PM Meeting Thursday, NEXT week, Aug 24 And for the record, I can make it on the 24th. (Tutoring for the summer ends this week.) -- Mike F. From brian.d.foy at gmail.com Tue Aug 15 08:39:30 2006 From: brian.d.foy at gmail.com (brian d foy) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:39:30 -0400 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Uniforum In-Reply-To: <44E0ECC9.4000406@jrock.us> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <44DEB048.90701@jrock.us> <43e95380608130823g64abdc38ke012b1b99eb4f113@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608140741r7606be9j29c8c3ffc2286ad7@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608140751t4b6a7489s529555eef85a48c3@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608141055q53b0117fua0ecd5f2865f81c2@mail.gmail.com> <44E0C9DA.4020901@mindspring.com> <44E0CDD5.2060503@jrock.us> <80C9708F-86C6-4704-B213-9D288E2671A4@petdance.com> <44E0ECC9.4000406@jrock.us> Message-ID: <2715accf0608150839q74b57c62r3e8a0a7e016e9aef@mail.gmail.com> On 8/14/06, Jonathan Rockway wrote: > :) > > That was more of a rant than an actual question. It seems that > *everything* is at the IIT Rice Campus. Why not have it at the IIT > downtown campus instead? It worked for YAPC. Then everyone on that side of the world would have to come downtown. For a long while we couldn't get more than a handful of Perl people to show up for anything downtown. That may be changing, but the Rice Campus seems more convenient for a lot of people. And, just because Uniforum is out there doesn't mean you can't have something downtown too. :) -- brian d foy http://www.pair.com/~comdog/ From kent at c2group.net Tue Aug 15 09:51:36 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:51:36 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Chicago-talk] Uniforum In-Reply-To: <2715accf0608150839q74b57c62r3e8a0a7e016e9aef@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <44DEB048.90701@jrock.us> <43e95380608130823g64abdc38ke012b1b99eb4f113@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608140741r7606be9j29c8c3ffc2286ad7@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608140751t4b6a7489s529555eef85a48c3@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608141055q53b0117fua0ecd5f2865f81c2@mail.gmail.com> <44E0C9DA.4020901@mindspring.com> <44E0CDD5.2060503@jrock.us> <80C9708F-86C6-4704-B213-9D288E2671A4@petdance.com> <44E0ECC9.4000406@jrock.us> <2715accf0608150839q74b57c62r3e8a0a7e016e9aef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060815115005.Y19871@atbash.c2group.net> Also, there seems to be a fair number of us city dwellers (ok, maybe just 3 that I can count off the top of my head, but possibly more) who 1) have cars, and 2) drive out there, and (more than likely) 3) wouldn't mind carpooling a car-less individual out there as well. :) On Tue, 15 Aug 2006, brian d foy wrote: > On 8/14/06, Jonathan Rockway wrote: > > :) > > > > That was more of a rant than an actual question. It seems that > > *everything* is at the IIT Rice Campus. Why not have it at the IIT > > downtown campus instead? It worked for YAPC. > > Then everyone on that side of the world would have to come downtown. > For a long while we couldn't get more than a handful of Perl people to > show up for anything downtown. That may be changing, but the Rice > Campus seems more convenient for a lot of people. > > And, just because Uniforum is out there doesn't mean you can't have > something downtown too. :) > > > -- > brian d foy > http://www.pair.com/~comdog/ > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Thu Aug 17 07:23:50 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:23:50 -0400 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Reminder: Chicago Perl Mongers Social Evening Message-ID: <49d805d70608170723x3bf3edc5mf4c2f5fa19b36307@mail.gmail.com> Where: Rock Bottom Brewery (State & Grand) When: Thursday August 17th from 5:30 p.m. until we get ready to leave Join us for our delayed post-YAPC wind-down at Rock Bottom. The brewery has fresh beer, a full dinner menu, pool tables, and a rooftop deck. We aren't sure where we'll be in the place, so just look for the people with Perl shirts on. See you there, Josh From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Thu Aug 17 07:33:04 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:33:04 -0400 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Advice on writing a book? In-Reply-To: References: <44DEB72D.2080604@jrock.us> Message-ID: <49d805d70608170733h57b19533lb4414aae2bb5a7f5@mail.gmail.com> > > I know there are a few authors on the list, and I'm interested in > > hearing their advice / experiences. > > Jonathan, let's have lunch some time and talk about authoring books. > Anyone else interested? I am. Have you guys set something up already? From mrnicksgirl at gmail.com Thu Aug 17 07:34:21 2006 From: mrnicksgirl at gmail.com (Nola Stowe) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:34:21 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Advice on writing a book? In-Reply-To: <49d805d70608170733h57b19533lb4414aae2bb5a7f5@mail.gmail.com> References: <44DEB72D.2080604@jrock.us> <49d805d70608170733h57b19533lb4414aae2bb5a7f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43e95380608170734vc494c2dtdf874566e027fe05@mail.gmail.com> I'll come too :) On 8/17/06, Joshua McAdams wrote: > > > I know there are a few authors on the list, and I'm interested in > > > hearing their advice / experiences. > > > > Jonathan, let's have lunch some time and talk about authoring books. > > Anyone else interested? > > I am. Have you guys set something up already? > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -- http://phpgirl.blogspot.com http://AnythingButPHP.blogspot.com http://CodeSnipers.com From adam at battleaxe.net Thu Aug 17 08:04:45 2006 From: adam at battleaxe.net (Adam Israel) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:04:45 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Advice on writing a book? In-Reply-To: <43e95380608170734vc494c2dtdf874566e027fe05@mail.gmail.com> References: <44DEB72D.2080604@jrock.us> <49d805d70608170733h57b19533lb4414aae2bb5a7f5@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608170734vc494c2dtdf874566e027fe05@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <856AC867-A1F9-4CE8-AFAD-B18819A0B7C1@battleaxe.net> So would I. -Adam On Aug 17, 2006, at 9:34 AM, Nola Stowe wrote: > I'll come too :) > > On 8/17/06, Joshua McAdams wrote: >>>> I know there are a few authors on the list, and I'm interested in >>>> hearing their advice / experiences. >>> >>> Jonathan, let's have lunch some time and talk about authoring books. >>> Anyone else interested? >> >> I am. Have you guys set something up already? >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago-talk mailing list >> Chicago-talk at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk >> > > > -- > http://phpgirl.blogspot.com > http://AnythingButPHP.blogspot.com > http://CodeSnipers.com > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk From mrnicksgirl at gmail.com Thu Aug 17 08:08:38 2006 From: mrnicksgirl at gmail.com (Nola Stowe) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:08:38 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Advice on writing a book? In-Reply-To: <856AC867-A1F9-4CE8-AFAD-B18819A0B7C1@battleaxe.net> References: <44DEB72D.2080604@jrock.us> <49d805d70608170733h57b19533lb4414aae2bb5a7f5@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608170734vc494c2dtdf874566e027fe05@mail.gmail.com> <856AC867-A1F9-4CE8-AFAD-B18819A0B7C1@battleaxe.net> Message-ID: <43e95380608170808l4ac9edb7h4fa3c3f9e8255e39@mail.gmail.com> Hey, maybe this could be a future meeting topic?? In addition to writing, someone could talk about reviewing books (I did some for Wrox 4 years ago, not like thats totally exceptional, but it was kinda fun) Hey maybe Brian can give his "so you want to write about perl?" talk also in addition to what Andy has to say. On 8/17/06, Adam Israel wrote: > So would I. > > -Adam > > On Aug 17, 2006, at 9:34 AM, Nola Stowe wrote: > > > I'll come too :) > > > > On 8/17/06, Joshua McAdams wrote: > >>>> I know there are a few authors on the list, and I'm interested in > >>>> hearing their advice / experiences. > >>> > >>> Jonathan, let's have lunch some time and talk about authoring books. > >>> Anyone else interested? > >> > >> I am. Have you guys set something up already? > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Chicago-talk mailing list > >> Chicago-talk at pm.org > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > >> > > > > > > -- > > http://phpgirl.blogspot.com > > http://AnythingButPHP.blogspot.com > > http://CodeSnipers.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago-talk mailing list > > Chicago-talk at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -- http://phpgirl.blogspot.com http://AnythingButPHP.blogspot.com http://CodeSnipers.com From kent at c2group.net Thu Aug 17 09:00:39 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:00:39 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Chicago-talk] Reminder: Chicago Perl Mongers Social Evening In-Reply-To: <49d805d70608170723x3bf3edc5mf4c2f5fa19b36307@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608170723x3bf3edc5mf4c2f5fa19b36307@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060817110015.Y48731@atbash.c2group.net> Rats, I left my perl shirt at home. :( On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Joshua McAdams wrote: > Where: Rock Bottom Brewery (State & Grand) > When: Thursday August 17th from 5:30 p.m. until we get ready to leave > > Join us for our delayed post-YAPC wind-down at Rock Bottom. The > brewery has fresh beer, a full dinner menu, pool tables, and a rooftop > deck. We aren't sure where we'll be in the place, so just look for > the people with Perl shirts on. > > See you there, > Josh > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > From brian.d.foy at gmail.com Thu Aug 17 09:35:37 2006 From: brian.d.foy at gmail.com (brian d foy) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:35:37 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lincoln Park Zoo: Adopt a Camel Message-ID: <2715accf0608170935t268a0deas2c8cdad4186d4fae@mail.gmail.com> For a measly $500, Chicago.pm can adopt the Camel at the Lincoln Park Zoo. It's a Bactrian (the two-humped sort), not the Dromedary on the front of Programming perl, but hey, it's a Camel. I already donate to the zoo, so I could just about cover most of this myself with what I already give them, but I figured I'd make it a group thing. With $500, we'll get a special zoo tour and animal encounter (in this case, may involve spitting) for up to 40 people, scads of swag, a nice 8x10 photo of the adopted camel (suitable for a website), our group name in the annual report of the zoo, and so on and so on. http://www.lpzoo.com/support/adopt/groupadopt.html For an extra $11.25, we can get a mascot: https://orderchannel.lpzoo.org/Shop/English/Desk/ProductDetails.aspx?Product=20064&Time=113024 Although they have the Dromedary too: https://orderchannel.lpzoo.org/Shop/English/Desk/ProductDetails.aspx?Product=20110&Time=113221 So far, the only other group to adopt the Camel is Franklin Community H.S. Animal Conservation 104, but they also adopted a tortoise and a fox, so I don't think they really care that much about the animal. Besides, we can kick their ass if it came down to a street fight, I bet. http://www.lpzoo.com/support/adopt/adopters.html -- brian d foy http://www.pair.com/~comdog/ From brian.d.foy at gmail.com Thu Aug 17 09:36:34 2006 From: brian.d.foy at gmail.com (brian d foy) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:36:34 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Reminder: Chicago Perl Mongers Social Evening In-Reply-To: <20060817110015.Y48731@atbash.c2group.net> References: <49d805d70608170723x3bf3edc5mf4c2f5fa19b36307@mail.gmail.com> <20060817110015.Y48731@atbash.c2group.net> Message-ID: <2715accf0608170936j553c34dpca2cee10ea1eb9a@mail.gmail.com> On 8/17/06, Kent Cowgill wrote: > Rats, I left my perl shirt at home. :( I'm bringing most of my OSCON swag with me. There might be a Perl shirt in there. All merchandise must go! -- brian d foy http://www.pair.com/~comdog/ From dha at panix.com Thu Aug 17 10:20:26 2006 From: dha at panix.com (David H. Adler) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:20:26 -0400 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Advice on writing a book? In-Reply-To: <856AC867-A1F9-4CE8-AFAD-B18819A0B7C1@battleaxe.net> References: <44DEB72D.2080604@jrock.us> <49d805d70608170733h57b19533lb4414aae2bb5a7f5@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608170734vc494c2dtdf874566e027fe05@mail.gmail.com> <856AC867-A1F9-4CE8-AFAD-B18819A0B7C1@battleaxe.net> Message-ID: <20060817172026.GB27000@panix.com> On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:04:45AM -0500, Adam Israel wrote: > So would I. Ditto. Uh, if I were in Chicago at the time. :-) dha -- David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ If your head has exploded, you should avoid sausage factories. - Larry Wall From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Thu Aug 17 11:14:04 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:14:04 -0400 Subject: [Chicago-talk] PM T-Shirts Message-ID: <49d805d70608171114k6e7933cfi1bff89f9cbddea7e@mail.gmail.com> Okay, the totals are in for the PM t-shirts. The shipping and paypal charges per shirt come out to be just around $0.92. I've added those into the costs below. I'm going to go ahead and pay for the shirts and you all can just pay me. Black S: N/A Black M: $6.65 + $0.92 = $7.57 Black L: $6.65 + $0.92 = $7.57 Black XL: $6.65 + $0.92 = $7.57 Black XXL: $8.75 + $0.92 = $9.67 Black XXXL: $9.50 + $0.92 = $10.42 Ash S: $5.95 + $0.92 = $6.87 Ash M: $5.95 + $0.92 = $6.87 Ash L: $5.95 + $0.92 = $6.87 Ash XL: $5.95 + $0.92 = $6.87 Ash XXL: $8.15 + $0.92 = $9.07 Ash XXXL: $8.95 + $0.92 = $9.87 ---------------------------------------- Kent Cowgill : 1 Black M = $7.57 ---------------------------------------- Eric Ellington : 1 Black XL = $7.57 ---------------------------------------- Jason Gessner : 1 Black L = $7.57 ---------------------------------------- Nola Stowe : 1 Black XL = $7.57 : 1 Ash XL = $6.87 ------- $14.44 ---------------------------------------- Clyde Forrester : 1 Black XL = $7.57 ---------------------------------------- Liz Cortell : 1 Ash S = $6.87 ---------------------------------------- Chris McAvoy : 1 Black XL = $7.57 ---------------------------------------- Jim Thomason : 1 Black M = $7.57 ---------------------------------------- Elias Lutfallah : 1 Black XL = $7.57 : 1 Ash XL = $6.87 ------- $14.44 ---------------------------------------- Warren Smith : 5 Ash XL = $34.35 ---------------------------------------- Josh McAdams : 1 Black M = $7.57 : 1 Ash M = $6.87 ------- $14.44 ---------------------------------------- Brad Doty : 1 Black XL = $7.57 ---------------------------------------- Ray Donovan : 1 Ash L = $6.87 ---------------------------------------- Pete Krawczyk : 1 Black XXXL = $10.42 : 1 Ash XXXL = $9.87 ------- $20.29 ---------------------------------------- John Humanski : 2 Ash M = $13.74 : 1 Ash XL = $6.87 : 2 Black L = $15.14 : 2 Ash L = $13.74 ------- $49.49 ---------------------------------------- Alan Mead : 2 Black XL = $15.14 ---------------------------------------- Scott Hildreth : 1 Black XXL = $9.67 : 1 Ash XXL = $9.07 ------- $18.74 From kent at c2group.net Thu Aug 17 11:24:05 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:24:05 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Chicago-talk] PM T-Shirts In-Reply-To: <49d805d70608171114k6e7933cfi1bff89f9cbddea7e@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608171114k6e7933cfi1bff89f9cbddea7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20060817132254.D50455@atbash.c2group.net> Josh, I'll just give you $8.00 and let you keep the rest as a tip :) On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Joshua McAdams wrote: > Okay, the totals are in for the PM t-shirts. The shipping and paypal > charges per shirt come out to be just around $0.92. I've added those > into the costs below. I'm going to go ahead and pay for the shirts > and you all can just pay me. > > Black S: N/A > Black M: $6.65 + $0.92 = $7.57 > Black L: $6.65 + $0.92 = $7.57 > Black XL: $6.65 + $0.92 = $7.57 > Black XXL: $8.75 + $0.92 = $9.67 > Black XXXL: $9.50 + $0.92 = $10.42 > > Ash S: $5.95 + $0.92 = $6.87 > Ash M: $5.95 + $0.92 = $6.87 > Ash L: $5.95 + $0.92 = $6.87 > Ash XL: $5.95 + $0.92 = $6.87 > Ash XXL: $8.15 + $0.92 = $9.07 > Ash XXXL: $8.95 + $0.92 = $9.87 > > ---------------------------------------- > Kent Cowgill : 1 Black M = $7.57 > ---------------------------------------- > Eric Ellington : 1 Black XL = $7.57 > ---------------------------------------- > Jason Gessner : 1 Black L = $7.57 > ---------------------------------------- > Nola Stowe : 1 Black XL = $7.57 > : 1 Ash XL = $6.87 > ------- > $14.44 > ---------------------------------------- > Clyde Forrester : 1 Black XL = $7.57 > ---------------------------------------- > Liz Cortell : 1 Ash S = $6.87 > ---------------------------------------- > Chris McAvoy : 1 Black XL = $7.57 > ---------------------------------------- > Jim Thomason : 1 Black M = $7.57 > ---------------------------------------- > Elias Lutfallah : 1 Black XL = $7.57 > : 1 Ash XL = $6.87 > ------- > $14.44 > ---------------------------------------- > Warren Smith : 5 Ash XL = $34.35 > ---------------------------------------- > Josh McAdams : 1 Black M = $7.57 > : 1 Ash M = $6.87 > ------- > $14.44 > ---------------------------------------- > Brad Doty : 1 Black XL = $7.57 > ---------------------------------------- > Ray Donovan : 1 Ash L = $6.87 > ---------------------------------------- > Pete Krawczyk : 1 Black XXXL = $10.42 > : 1 Ash XXXL = $9.87 > ------- > $20.29 > ---------------------------------------- > John Humanski : 2 Ash M = $13.74 > : 1 Ash XL = $6.87 > : 2 Black L = $15.14 > : 2 Ash L = $13.74 > ------- > $49.49 > ---------------------------------------- > Alan Mead : 2 Black XL = $15.14 > ---------------------------------------- > Scott Hildreth : 1 Black XXL = $9.67 > : 1 Ash XXL = $9.07 > ------- > $18.74 > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > From andy at petdance.com Thu Aug 17 12:43:46 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:43:46 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Reminder: Chicago Perl Mongers Social Evening In-Reply-To: <49d805d70608170723x3bf3edc5mf4c2f5fa19b36307@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608170723x3bf3edc5mf4c2f5fa19b36307@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <476B8F20-8E64-407D-B88F-AA6E378FA435@petdance.com> On Aug 17, 2006, at 9:23 AM, Joshua McAdams wrote: > Where: Rock Bottom Brewery (State & Grand) > When: Thursday August 17th from 5:30 p.m. until we get ready to leave My plane gets in at 4:30, and I'd be down there w/you if I didn't have my girls to go home and see.... :-( -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From mrnicksgirl at gmail.com Thu Aug 17 19:01:21 2006 From: mrnicksgirl at gmail.com (Nola Stowe) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:01:21 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Reminder: Chicago Perl Mongers Social Evening In-Reply-To: <476B8F20-8E64-407D-B88F-AA6E378FA435@petdance.com> References: <49d805d70608170723x3bf3edc5mf4c2f5fa19b36307@mail.gmail.com> <476B8F20-8E64-407D-B88F-AA6E378FA435@petdance.com> Message-ID: <43e95380608171901g60ba24d5t29d171ec25140ca5@mail.gmail.com> Thank you everyone for coming..... even my php (or whatever language they need that day) friend Jen came and chilled out with the cool perl people. For the rest of you .. guess you will never know the mystery of the voices in Josh's toliet. On 8/17/06, Andy Lester wrote: > > On Aug 17, 2006, at 9:23 AM, Joshua McAdams wrote: > > > Where: Rock Bottom Brewery (State & Grand) > > When: Thursday August 17th from 5:30 p.m. until we get ready to leave > > My plane gets in at 4:30, and I'd be down there w/you if I didn't > have my girls to go home and see.... :-( > > -- > Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -- http://phpgirl.blogspot.com http://AnythingButPHP.blogspot.com http://CodeSnipers.com From brian.d.foy at gmail.com Thu Aug 17 19:13:51 2006 From: brian.d.foy at gmail.com (brian d foy) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:13:51 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Reminder: Chicago Perl Mongers Social Evening In-Reply-To: <43e95380608171901g60ba24d5t29d171ec25140ca5@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608170723x3bf3edc5mf4c2f5fa19b36307@mail.gmail.com> <476B8F20-8E64-407D-B88F-AA6E378FA435@petdance.com> <43e95380608171901g60ba24d5t29d171ec25140ca5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2715accf0608171913j6144578ci6b099758e8bd621e@mail.gmail.com> On 8/17/06, Nola Stowe wrote: > For the rest of you .. guess you will never know the mystery of the > voices in Josh's toliet. For those of us that know, we wish we didn't. The IT Crowd came up at dinner (because I brought it up), and Nola suggested we get together to watch it. She might have high quality downloads, otherwise I have the stuff downloaded from the BBC website (which you have to be in the UK to download). http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/I/itcrowd/ Maybe we can watch a couple episodes before the Pittsburgh thing. -- brian d foy http://www.pair.com/~comdog/ From jason at multiply.org Thu Aug 17 20:11:39 2006 From: jason at multiply.org (jason gessner) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:11:39 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Reminder: Chicago Perl Mongers Social Evening In-Reply-To: <2715accf0608171913j6144578ci6b099758e8bd621e@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608170723x3bf3edc5mf4c2f5fa19b36307@mail.gmail.com> <476B8F20-8E64-407D-B88F-AA6E378FA435@petdance.com> <43e95380608171901g60ba24d5t29d171ec25140ca5@mail.gmail.com> <2715accf0608171913j6144578ci6b099758e8bd621e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: oh man that show is funny. anyone else seen it? -jason On Aug 17, 2006, at 9:13 PM, brian d foy wrote: > On 8/17/06, Nola Stowe wrote: > >> For the rest of you .. guess you will never know the mystery of the >> voices in Josh's toliet. > > For those of us that know, we wish we didn't. > > The IT Crowd came up at dinner (because I brought it up), and Nola > suggested we get together to watch it. She might have high quality > downloads, otherwise I have the stuff downloaded from the BBC website > (which you have to be in the UK to download). > > http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/I/itcrowd/ > > Maybe we can watch a couple episodes before the Pittsburgh thing. > > -- > brian d foy > http://www.pair.com/~comdog/ > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Thu Aug 17 20:19:11 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:19:11 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Reminder: Chicago Perl Mongers Social Evening In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70608170723x3bf3edc5mf4c2f5fa19b36307@mail.gmail.com> <476B8F20-8E64-407D-B88F-AA6E378FA435@petdance.com> <43e95380608171901g60ba24d5t29d171ec25140ca5@mail.gmail.com> <2715accf0608171913j6144578ci6b099758e8bd621e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70608172019u3e44da0dwd44acd636c5a962b@mail.gmail.com> > anyone else seen it? bittorrent is working on the entire first season now... looks like the weekend before I'll get to watch it though. From tom at yarrish.com Thu Aug 17 20:21:08 2006 From: tom at yarrish.com (Tom Yarrish) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:21:08 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Reminder: Chicago Perl Mongers Social Evening In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70608170723x3bf3edc5mf4c2f5fa19b36307@mail.gmail.com> <476B8F20-8E64-407D-B88F-AA6E378FA435@petdance.com> <43e95380608171901g60ba24d5t29d171ec25140ca5@mail.gmail.com> <2715accf0608171913j6144578ci6b099758e8bd621e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <473B5636-37F8-480B-9420-4B511C287B5B@yarrish.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I love that show. I was upset when they only did six episodes (or at least that's all I've found). Tom On Aug 17, 2006, at 10:11 PM, jason gessner wrote: > oh man that show is funny. > > anyone else seen it? > > -jason > > On Aug 17, 2006, at 9:13 PM, brian d foy wrote: > >> On 8/17/06, Nola Stowe wrote: >> >>> For the rest of you .. guess you will never know the mystery of the >>> voices in Josh's toliet. >> >> For those of us that know, we wish we didn't. >> >> The IT Crowd came up at dinner (because I brought it up), and Nola >> suggested we get together to watch it. She might have high quality >> downloads, otherwise I have the stuff downloaded from the BBC website >> (which you have to be in the UK to download). >> >> http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/I/itcrowd/ >> >> Maybe we can watch a couple episodes before the Pittsburgh thing. >> >> -- >> brian d foy >> http://www.pair.com/~comdog/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Chicago-talk mailing list >> Chicago-talk at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQFE5TIrZWzkfeDiTw4RAk7vAKCFi5tZyxn6cRZlzv0adn8rmyfRmwCfaLoh Xneoup7UXyfcJ9l0OFZ5A00= =SUXM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Thu Aug 17 20:21:10 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:21:10 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Reminder: Chicago Perl Mongers Social Evening In-Reply-To: <49d805d70608172019u3e44da0dwd44acd636c5a962b@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608170723x3bf3edc5mf4c2f5fa19b36307@mail.gmail.com> <476B8F20-8E64-407D-B88F-AA6E378FA435@petdance.com> <43e95380608171901g60ba24d5t29d171ec25140ca5@mail.gmail.com> <2715accf0608171913j6144578ci6b099758e8bd621e@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608172019u3e44da0dwd44acd636c5a962b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70608172021r405d18ddlff518441ed4eaad9@mail.gmail.com> > > anyone else seen it? > > bittorrent is working on the entire first season now... looks like the > weekend before I'll get to watch it though. if anyone is interested, the torrent is attached... no guarantee of the content at this point though :) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: The_IT_Crowd_(2006)_Season_1_WS_PDTV_XviD.3468041.TPB.torrent Type: application/octet-stream Size: 84366 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/chicago-talk/attachments/20060817/712ffc96/attachment-0001.obj From dha at panix.com Thu Aug 17 21:23:13 2006 From: dha at panix.com (David H. Adler) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 00:23:13 -0400 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Reminder: Chicago Perl Mongers Social Evening In-Reply-To: <473B5636-37F8-480B-9420-4B511C287B5B@yarrish.com> References: <49d805d70608170723x3bf3edc5mf4c2f5fa19b36307@mail.gmail.com> <476B8F20-8E64-407D-B88F-AA6E378FA435@petdance.com> <43e95380608171901g60ba24d5t29d171ec25140ca5@mail.gmail.com> <2715accf0608171913j6144578ci6b099758e8bd621e@mail.gmail.com> <473B5636-37F8-480B-9420-4B511C287B5B@yarrish.com> Message-ID: <20060818042313.GA21462@panix.com> On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:21:08PM -0500, Tom Yarrish wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I love that show. I was upset when they only did six episodes (or at > least that's all I've found). I've heard it referred to as "series 1", so perhaps more are coming. A full season in the UK is often 6 episodes nowadays. We watched a couple of episodes at yapc. Ha! :-) dha -- David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ Perhaps it IS a good day to Die! I say we ship it! - a selection from "If Klingons developed software" From andy at petdance.com Thu Aug 17 22:05:53 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 00:05:53 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] New ack is out Message-ID: <022BEFF3-15DC-4803-A7B8-D23ADE6E7D04@petdance.com> Chicago.PM's Leland Johnson sent me a swell idea for ack: Have -o let you specify an output string you want, based on the regex, so now you can. Go get ack 1.25_02 and try it out, please. Note that 1.25_01 is painfully broken and I've flagged it to be deleted from CPAN. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Thu Aug 17 22:38:49 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 00:38:49 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Damian Conway Message-ID: <49d805d70608172238k2eae2236g84b31f2e41db3723@mail.gmail.com> Wednesday September 27 to Friday September 29 Damian will be in the country and available for talks. Does anybody have any corporate ties that can get him to Chi-town? From warren at warrenandrachel.com Fri Aug 18 08:18:13 2006 From: warren at warrenandrachel.com (Warren Smith) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:18:13 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lincoln Park Zoo: Adopt a Camel In-Reply-To: <2715accf0608170935t268a0deas2c8cdad4186d4fae@mail.gmail.com> References: <2715accf0608170935t268a0deas2c8cdad4186d4fae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44E5DA35.4070809@warrenandrachel.com> I'm in for $25 and I've only been there once. If only we could get another 19 people. ** AHEM ** -Warren brian d foy wrote: > For a measly $500, Chicago.pm can adopt the Camel at the Lincoln Park > Zoo. It's a Bactrian (the two-humped sort), not the Dromedary on the > front of Programming perl, but hey, it's a Camel. > > I already donate to the zoo, so I could just about cover most of this > myself with what I already give them, but I figured I'd make it a > group thing. > > With $500, we'll get a special zoo tour and animal encounter (in this > case, may involve spitting) for up to 40 people, scads of swag, a nice > 8x10 photo of the adopted camel (suitable for a website), our group > name in the annual report of the zoo, and so on and so on. > > http://www.lpzoo.com/support/adopt/groupadopt.html > > For an extra $11.25, we can get a mascot: > > https://orderchannel.lpzoo.org/Shop/English/Desk/ProductDetails.aspx?Product=20064&Time=113024 > > Although they have the Dromedary too: > > https://orderchannel.lpzoo.org/Shop/English/Desk/ProductDetails.aspx?Product=20110&Time=113221 > > So far, the only other group to adopt the Camel is Franklin Community > H.S. Animal Conservation 104, but they also adopted a tortoise and a > fox, so I don't think they really care that much about the animal. > Besides, we can kick their ass if it came down to a street fight, I > bet. > > http://www.lpzoo.com/support/adopt/adopters.html > > From chris.mcavoy at gmail.com Fri Aug 18 08:21:54 2006 From: chris.mcavoy at gmail.com (Chris McAvoy) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:21:54 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lincoln Park Zoo: Adopt a Camel In-Reply-To: <44E5DA35.4070809@warrenandrachel.com> References: <2715accf0608170935t268a0deas2c8cdad4186d4fae@mail.gmail.com> <44E5DA35.4070809@warrenandrachel.com> Message-ID: <3096c19d0608180821h2da32916tbdce6af13d5ceb4f@mail.gmail.com> I'm in. Not totally sure for how much (need to talk to the wife), but I'm in. Do we get to name the camel? I'd name it Perl6. That's a cool name. Chris On 8/18/06, Warren Smith wrote: > A bunch of stuff, but Chris deleted it, as he didn't want to get an angry Randal message about top posting. From jon at jrock.us Fri Aug 18 08:30:40 2006 From: jon at jrock.us (Jonathan Rockway) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:30:40 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Damian Conway In-Reply-To: <49d805d70608172238k2eae2236g84b31f2e41db3723@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608172238k2eae2236g84b31f2e41db3723@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44E5DD20.5030901@jrock.us> Maybe we should donate Lincoln Park Zoo's camel to him. He'll have to come out to accept the gift, and oh, what a coincidence, he can give a talk too :) Joshua McAdams wrote: > Wednesday September 27 to Friday September 29 Damian will be in the > country and available for talks. Does anybody have any corporate ties > that can get him to Chi-town? > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk From esinclai at pobox.com Fri Aug 18 08:35:00 2006 From: esinclai at pobox.com (Eric Sinclair) Date: 18 Aug 2006 10:35:00 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lincoln Park Zoo: Adopt a Camel Message-ID: <3238742134.623614@mail.kittyjoyce.com> Me 4 (at $25)... -Eric -- esinclai at pobox.com aim/skype: esinclai jabber: esinclai at gmail.com http://www.kittyjoyce.com/eric/log/ -----Original Message----- From: Chris McAvoy Date: Friday, Aug 18, 2006 10:21 am Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Lincoln Park Zoo: Adopt a Camel I'm in. Not totally sure for how much (need to talk to the wife), but I'm in. Do we get to name the camel? I'd name it Perl6. That's a cool name. Chris On 8/18/06, Warren Smith wrote: A bunch of stuff, but Chris deleted it, as he didn't want to get an angry Randal message about top posting. _______________________________________________ Chicago-talk mailing list Chicago-talk at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk From jon at jrock.us Fri Aug 18 08:39:09 2006 From: jon at jrock.us (Jonathan Rockway) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:39:09 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lincoln Park Zoo: Adopt a Camel In-Reply-To: <3238742134.623614@mail.kittyjoyce.com> References: <3238742134.623614@mail.kittyjoyce.com> Message-ID: <44E5DF1D.7020404@jrock.us> Yeah, I can also give $25. Eric Sinclair wrote: > Me 4 (at $25)... From lembark at wrkhors.com Fri Aug 18 09:21:23 2006 From: lembark at wrkhors.com (Steven Lembark) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:21:23 -0400 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Damian Conway In-Reply-To: <49d805d70608172238k2eae2236g84b31f2e41db3723@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608172238k2eae2236g84b31f2e41db3723@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44E5E903.7090704@wrkhors.com> > Wednesday September 27 to Friday September 29 Damian will be in the > country and available for talks. Does anybody have any corporate ties > that can get him to Chi-town? What I'm doing here is just offering the class for $200/head on a Staturday. If you can find a sponsor for the space then it's easy enough for him to just show up and give a class. -- Steven Lembark 85-09 90th Street Workhorse Computing Woodhaven, NY 11421 lembark at wrkhors.com +1 888 359 3508 From e.ellington at gmail.com Fri Aug 18 09:42:27 2006 From: e.ellington at gmail.com (Eric Ellington) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:42:27 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lincoln Park Zoo: Adopt a Camel In-Reply-To: <44E5DF1D.7020404@jrock.us> References: <3238742134.623614@mail.kittyjoyce.com> <44E5DF1D.7020404@jrock.us> Message-ID: I could do $25 also... -- Eric Ellington e.ellington at gmail.com From kent at c2group.net Fri Aug 18 10:19:24 2006 From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:19:24 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lincoln Park Zoo: Adopt a Camel In-Reply-To: References: <3238742134.623614@mail.kittyjoyce.com> <44E5DF1D.7020404@jrock.us> Message-ID: <20060818121825.B61797@atbash.c2group.net> I told Brian last night, but I'm in too. $25 for me unless more is needed. On Fri, 18 Aug 2006, Eric Ellington wrote: > I could do $25 also... > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > From shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com Fri Aug 18 10:39:57 2006 From: shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com (Shawn Carroll) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:39:57 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lincoln Park Zoo: Adopt a Camel In-Reply-To: <20060818121825.B61797@atbash.c2group.net> References: <3238742134.623614@mail.kittyjoyce.com> <44E5DF1D.7020404@jrock.us> <20060818121825.B61797@atbash.c2group.net> Message-ID: Count me in as well for $25 On 8/18/06, Kent Cowgill wrote: > > I told Brian last night, but I'm in too. $25 for me unless more is > needed. > > On Fri, 18 Aug 2006, Eric Ellington wrote: > > I could do $25 also... > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago-talk mailing list > > Chicago-talk at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -- shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com Perl Programmer Soccer Referee From frag at ripco.com Fri Aug 18 10:43:30 2006 From: frag at ripco.com (Mike Fragassi) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:43:30 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lincoln Park Zoo: Adopt a Camel In-Reply-To: <20060818121825.B61797@atbash.c2group.net> References: <3238742134.623614@mail.kittyjoyce.com> <44E5DF1D.7020404@jrock.us> <20060818121825.B61797@atbash.c2group.net> Message-ID: Me nth, for $25. Name suggestions: "Pugsley". "Allium" or "cepa" (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onion). "Copyrighto'reillyusedwithpermission". -- Mike F. From brian.d.foy at gmail.com Fri Aug 18 10:43:51 2006 From: brian.d.foy at gmail.com (brian d foy) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:43:51 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Adopt a Camel: Actually handing over the cash Message-ID: <2715accf0608181043i8d88cta11e342a414ef07d@mail.gmail.com> Josh tells me he's going to bring a (physical) tip jar to the next Chicago.pm meeting, so you can put your money in that jar. I won't be there, so please keep track of who throws in so I don't track you down to demand more money. Optionally, you can send money to me as a check (5250 N. Broadway Suite 157, Chicago, IL 60640), send me money via Paypal (brian.d.foy at gmail.com). I'll try to arange with the Lincoln Park Zoo to supply donation letters to each donor. If you want such a letter, I'll need your postal address so they can send it to you. $25 seems to be a good amount. Can we get 20 people to contribute? I already have 10 people who've pledged, so we're halfway there. :) -- brian d foy http://www.pair.com/~comdog/ From jason at hostedlabs.com Fri Aug 18 10:47:38 2006 From: jason at hostedlabs.com (jason at hostedlabs.com) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:47:38 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Chicago-talk] Adopt a Camel: Actually handing over the cash In-Reply-To: <2715accf0608181043i8d88cta11e342a414ef07d@mail.gmail.com> References: <2715accf0608181043i8d88cta11e342a414ef07d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18697.65.113.40.130.1155923258.squirrel@mail.hostedlabs.com> Count me in for $25. > Josh tells me he's going to bring a (physical) tip jar to the next > Chicago.pm meeting, so you can put your money in that jar. I won't be > there, so please keep track of who throws in so I don't track you down > to demand more money. > > Optionally, you can send money to me as a check (5250 N. Broadway > Suite 157, Chicago, IL 60640), send me money via Paypal > (brian.d.foy at gmail.com). > > I'll try to arange with the Lincoln Park Zoo to supply donation > letters to each donor. If you want such a letter, I'll need your > postal address so they can send it to you. > > $25 seems to be a good amount. Can we get 20 people to contribute? I > already have 10 people who've pledged, so we're halfway there. :) > > -- > brian d foy > http://www.pair.com/~comdog/ > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > From e.ellington at gmail.com Fri Aug 18 10:58:08 2006 From: e.ellington at gmail.com (Eric Ellington) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:58:08 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Adopt a Camel: Actually handing over the cash In-Reply-To: <18697.65.113.40.130.1155923258.squirrel@mail.hostedlabs.com> References: <2715accf0608181043i8d88cta11e342a414ef07d@mail.gmail.com> <18697.65.113.40.130.1155923258.squirrel@mail.hostedlabs.com> Message-ID: Any sort of due date for those who can not make it to the next meeting? On 8/18/06, jason at hostedlabs.com wrote: > Count me in for $25. > > > Josh tells me he's going to bring a (physical) tip jar to the next > > Chicago.pm meeting, so you can put your money in that jar. I won't be > > there, so please keep track of who throws in so I don't track you down > > to demand more money. > > > > Optionally, you can send money to me as a check (5250 N. Broadway > > Suite 157, Chicago, IL 60640), send me money via Paypal > > (brian.d.foy at gmail.com). > > > > I'll try to arange with the Lincoln Park Zoo to supply donation > > letters to each donor. If you want such a letter, I'll need your > > postal address so they can send it to you. > > > > $25 seems to be a good amount. Can we get 20 people to contribute? I > > already have 10 people who've pledged, so we're halfway there. :) > > > > -- > > brian d foy > > http://www.pair.com/~comdog/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Chicago-talk mailing list > > Chicago-talk at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -- Eric Ellington e.ellington at gmail.com From zrusilla at mac.com Fri Aug 18 10:59:08 2006 From: zrusilla at mac.com (Elizabeth Cortell) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:59:08 -0700 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Adopt a Camel: Actually handing over the cash In-Reply-To: <2715accf0608181043i8d88cta11e342a414ef07d@mail.gmail.com> References: <2715accf0608181043i8d88cta11e342a414ef07d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13120809.1155923948937.JavaMail.zrusilla@mac.com> Oh heck, I'm already spending a fortune on dental work, what's another $25? count me in. Liz >$25 seems to be a good amount. Can we get 20 people to contribute? I >already have 10 people who've pledged, so we're halfway there. :) > From brian.d.foy at gmail.com Fri Aug 18 11:02:51 2006 From: brian.d.foy at gmail.com (brian d foy) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:02:51 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Adopt a Camel: Actually handing over the cash In-Reply-To: References: <2715accf0608181043i8d88cta11e342a414ef07d@mail.gmail.com> <18697.65.113.40.130.1155923258.squirrel@mail.hostedlabs.com> Message-ID: <2715accf0608181102x5dfee641t2cd9646818798b08@mail.gmail.com> There's no due date. I'm going to write them a check this week to cover the whole thing and then just keep the money everyone gives me. Any overage will go into the camel fund for next year. :) From perl at cromedome.net Fri Aug 18 11:28:32 2006 From: perl at cromedome.net (Jason A. Crome) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:28:32 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Adopt a Camel: Actually handing over the cash In-Reply-To: <2715accf0608181043i8d88cta11e342a414ef07d@mail.gmail.com> References: <2715accf0608181043i8d88cta11e342a414ef07d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Count me in. On Aug 18, 2006, at 12:43 PM, brian d foy wrote: > Josh tells me he's going to bring a (physical) tip jar to the next > Chicago.pm meeting, so you can put your money in that jar. I won't be > there, so please keep track of who throws in so I don't track you down > to demand more money. > > Optionally, you can send money to me as a check (5250 N. Broadway > Suite 157, Chicago, IL 60640), send me money via Paypal > (brian.d.foy at gmail.com). > > I'll try to arange with the Lincoln Park Zoo to supply donation > letters to each donor. If you want such a letter, I'll need your > postal address so they can send it to you. > > $25 seems to be a good amount. Can we get 20 people to contribute? I > already have 10 people who've pledged, so we're halfway there. :) > > -- > brian d foy > http://www.pair.com/~comdog/ > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > From jim at jimandkoka.com Fri Aug 18 11:54:23 2006 From: jim at jimandkoka.com (Jim Thomason) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:54:23 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Adopt a Camel: Actually handing over the cash In-Reply-To: <2715accf0608181043i8d88cta11e342a414ef07d@mail.gmail.com> References: <2715accf0608181043i8d88cta11e342a414ef07d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5cfdfaf70608181154l24028e0awe2a0b59b6eda328b@mail.gmail.com> Fine, fine, fine. I'll pony up for the camel, too. -Jim... On 8/18/06, brian d foy wrote: > Josh tells me he's going to bring a (physical) tip jar to the next > Chicago.pm meeting, so you can put your money in that jar. I won't be > there, so please keep track of who throws in so I don't track you down > to demand more money. > > Optionally, you can send money to me as a check (5250 N. Broadway > Suite 157, Chicago, IL 60640), send me money via Paypal > (brian.d.foy at gmail.com). > > I'll try to arange with the Lincoln Park Zoo to supply donation > letters to each donor. If you want such a letter, I'll need your > postal address so they can send it to you. > > $25 seems to be a good amount. Can we get 20 people to contribute? I > already have 10 people who've pledged, so we're halfway there. :) > > -- > brian d foy > http://www.pair.com/~comdog/ > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > From mgs at customvisuals.com Fri Aug 18 12:11:50 2006 From: mgs at customvisuals.com (Mike Schienle) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:11:50 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Adopt a Camel: Actually handing over the cash In-Reply-To: <2715accf0608181102x5dfee641t2cd9646818798b08@mail.gmail.com> References: <2715accf0608181043i8d88cta11e342a414ef07d@mail.gmail.com> <18697.65.113.40.130.1155923258.squirrel@mail.hostedlabs.com> <2715accf0608181102x5dfee641t2cd9646818798b08@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Count me in for $25. Hadji gets my vote for name. On Aug 18, 2006, at 1:02 PM, brian d foy wrote: > There's no due date. I'm going to write them a check this week to > cover the whole thing and then just keep the money everyone gives me. > Any overage will go into the camel fund for next year. :) > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk Mike Schienle From mgs at customvisuals.com Fri Aug 18 12:15:03 2006 From: mgs at customvisuals.com (Mike Schienle) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:15:03 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: <49d805d70608141055q53b0117fua0ecd5f2865f81c2@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <44A236FD-96B0-4258-B7B2-0E3F1D6E4AE8@c2group.net> <43e95380608120619t72439f95g82b41b7048416c63@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608120827u3f077760m477da7b34f7f02e1@mail.gmail.com> <7F393466-7AE3-46F1-8BB7-2C41224C6CEB@c2group.net> <44DEB048.90701@jrock.us> <43e95380608130823g64abdc38ke012b1b99eb4f113@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608140741r7606be9j29c8c3ffc2286ad7@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608140751t4b6a7489s529555eef85a48c3@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608141055q53b0117fua0ecd5f2865f81c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Aug 14, 2006, at 12:55 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote: >> Ok .. since Frag can't do thursday (and he said he'd like to update >> the presentation) .. can we just do friday dinner/drinks? and meet >> next week? > > I'll book performics for next week... let's say next Tuesday, August > 22nd. Joshua - Is this date still holding? What time? Thanks. > As far as dinner this week, Thursday or Friday work fine for > me. Jonathon and Kent have both said Thursday is fine, but that's all > I've heard. If they are cool with Friday instead, then that works for > me too. > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk Mike Schienle From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Fri Aug 18 12:37:59 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:37:59 -0400 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Dinner Next Week In-Reply-To: References: <49d805d70608082031i300d1c16r9755042a8c0ff4e6@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608120619t72439f95g82b41b7048416c63@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608120827u3f077760m477da7b34f7f02e1@mail.gmail.com> <7F393466-7AE3-46F1-8BB7-2C41224C6CEB@c2group.net> <44DEB048.90701@jrock.us> <43e95380608130823g64abdc38ke012b1b99eb4f113@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608140741r7606be9j29c8c3ffc2286ad7@mail.gmail.com> <43e95380608140751t4b6a7489s529555eef85a48c3@mail.gmail.com> <49d805d70608141055q53b0117fua0ecd5f2865f81c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49d805d70608181237t2264d4d4ydf4ef7bd8da67359@mail.gmail.com> > > I'll book performics for next week... let's say next Tuesday, August > > 22nd. > > Joshua - > > Is this date still holding? What time? Due to the collision with Uniforum, we'll be meeting on Thursday August 24th starting at 7:00pm. From jason at multiply.org Fri Aug 18 12:39:12 2006 From: jason at multiply.org (jason gessner) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:39:12 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lincoln Park Zoo: Adopt a Camel In-Reply-To: <2715accf0608170935t268a0deas2c8cdad4186d4fae@mail.gmail.com> References: <2715accf0608170935t268a0deas2c8cdad4186d4fae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44E61760.6000202@multiply.org> $25 from me as well. -jason brian d foy wrote: > For a measly $500, Chicago.pm can adopt the Camel at the Lincoln Park > Zoo. It's a Bactrian (the two-humped sort), not the Dromedary on the > front of Programming perl, but hey, it's a Camel. > > I already donate to the zoo, so I could just about cover most of this > myself with what I already give them, but I figured I'd make it a > group thing. > > With $500, we'll get a special zoo tour and animal encounter (in this > case, may involve spitting) for up to 40 people, scads of swag, a nice > 8x10 photo of the adopted camel (suitable for a website), our group > name in the annual report of the zoo, and so on and so on. > > http://www.lpzoo.com/support/adopt/groupadopt.html > > For an extra $11.25, we can get a mascot: > > https://orderchannel.lpzoo.org/Shop/English/Desk/ProductDetails.aspx?Product=20064&Time=113024 > > Although they have the Dromedary too: > > https://orderchannel.lpzoo.org/Shop/English/Desk/ProductDetails.aspx?Product=20110&Time=113221 > > So far, the only other group to adopt the Camel is Franklin Community > H.S. Animal Conservation 104, but they also adopted a tortoise and a > fox, so I don't think they really care that much about the animal. > Besides, we can kick their ass if it came down to a street fight, I > bet. > > http://www.lpzoo.com/support/adopt/adopters.html > > From bdoty at efs-us.com Fri Aug 18 13:18:00 2006 From: bdoty at efs-us.com (Brad Doty) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:18:00 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Adopt Damian Message-ID: I'll pitch in for $25. I like the idea of donating the camel to Damian. Does that make it an event at the zoo? Not much space for a talk there. From esinclai at pobox.com Fri Aug 18 19:35:21 2006 From: esinclai at pobox.com (Eric Sinclair) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:35:21 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Adopt Damian In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <99877158-927A-4B7F-ADC4-6DC7BEF7C8EF@pobox.com> Oh, there's plenty of spaces for talks: http://lpzoo.org/info/plan_event/index.html it's just a matter of money. I've been to a picnic at the Big Cat cafe, which is the most affordable; a bit of wireless mic and we'd be set (though how cool would it be to have a talk in the African Journey house...) -Eric On Aug 18, 2006, at 3:18 PM, Brad Doty wrote: > I'll pitch in for $25. > > I like the idea of donating the camel to Damian. Does that make it an > event at the zoo? Not much space for a talk there. > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -- esinclai at pobox.com aim/skype: esinclai http://www.kittyjoyce.com/eric/log/ jabber: esinclai at gmail.com From brian.d.foy at gmail.com Fri Aug 18 21:48:42 2006 From: brian.d.foy at gmail.com (brian d foy) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 23:48:42 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Adopt Damian In-Reply-To: <99877158-927A-4B7F-ADC4-6DC7BEF7C8EF@pobox.com> References: <99877158-927A-4B7F-ADC4-6DC7BEF7C8EF@pobox.com> Message-ID: <2715accf0608182148n2e3dbe1fs239f281074cfe938@mail.gmail.com> On 8/18/06, Eric Sinclair wrote: > Oh, there's plenty of spaces for talks: Just to be clear, The Adopt a Camel thing has nothing to do with Damian or any other event outside of what the zoo is going to provide. -- brian d foy http://www.pair.com/~comdog/ From andy at petdance.com Sun Aug 20 13:04:18 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 15:04:18 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Next Chicago.PM meeting: Thursday, Aug 24 Message-ID: <9F7921C9-2183-467F-A863-DC33680E082D@petdance.com> Thursday, August 24, 2006 (7:00 PM - 9:00 PM) Performics 180 N. La Salle, 12th Floor Chicago, IL If you are planning on attending this meeting, please RSVP to joshua.mcadams-at-gmail-dot-com Mike Fragassi will be talking about "Perl Logging Practices". Jonathan Rockway will also be giving a presentation titled "An Introduction to Berkeley DB". For questions about this or any other upcoming meeting, please email Andy Lester at andy at petdance.com. http://chi.pm.org/meetings/ -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com Mon Aug 21 07:46:09 2006 From: shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com (Shawn Carroll) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:46:09 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Damian Conway In-Reply-To: <49d805d70608172238k2eae2236g84b31f2e41db3723@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d805d70608172238k2eae2236g84b31f2e41db3723@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 8/18/06, Joshua McAdams wrote: > Wednesday September 27 to Friday September 29 Damian will be in the > country and available for talks. Does anybody have any corporate ties > that can get him to Chi-town? I am working on getting Damian to give a lunchtime talk here at Citadel. I will see how possible this is. We are right now trying to come up w/ a topic. I'll keep you guys in the loop -- shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com Perl Programmer Soccer Referee From eli at mortgagefolder.com Mon Aug 21 08:28:31 2006 From: eli at mortgagefolder.com (Elias Lutfallah) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:28:31 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lincoln Park Zoo: Adopt a Camel In-Reply-To: <44E61760.6000202@multiply.org> References: <2715accf0608170935t268a0deas2c8cdad4186d4fae@mail.gmail.com> <44E61760.6000202@multiply.org> Message-ID: <16875.68.251.86.66.1156174111.squirrel@mail2.mortgagefolder.com> I'm in for $25. > $25 from me as well. > > -jason > > brian d foy wrote: >> For a measly $500, Chicago.pm can adopt the Camel at the Lincoln Park >> Zoo. It's a Bactrian (the two-humped sort), not the Dromedary on the >> front of Programming perl, but hey, it's a Camel. >> >> I already donate to the zoo, so I could just about cover most of this >> myself with what I already give them, but I figured I'd make it a >> group thing. >> >> With $500, we'll get a special zoo tour and animal encounter (in this >> case, may involve spitting) for up to 40 people, scads of swag, a nice >> 8x10 photo of the adopted camel (suitable for a website), our group >> name in the annual report of the zoo, and so on and so on. >> >> http://www.lpzoo.com/support/adopt/groupadopt.html >> >> For an extra $11.25, we can get a mascot: >> >> https://orderchannel.lpzoo.org/Shop/English/Desk/ProductDetails.aspx?Product=20064&Time=113024 >> >> Although they have the Dromedary too: >> >> https://orderchannel.lpzoo.org/Shop/English/Desk/ProductDetails.aspx?Product=20110&Time=113221 >> >> So far, the only other group to adopt the Camel is Franklin Community >> H.S. Animal Conservation 104, but they also adopted a tortoise and a >> fox, so I don't think they really care that much about the animal. >> Besides, we can kick their ass if it came down to a street fight, I >> bet. >> >> http://www.lpzoo.com/support/adopt/adopters.html >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > -- Elias Lutfallah Chief Technology Officer Mortgage Desk, Inc. From andy at petdance.com Mon Aug 21 09:11:21 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:11:21 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Hackathon! Message-ID: Pete and I have initial OK from TPF to have a Hackathon in the Chicago area the weekend of Nov 10-12. Details as we work them out. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From andy at petdance.com Wed Aug 23 14:51:47 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:51:47 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Hackathon projects Message-ID: <9F3BEFED-AB92-49E5-85CD-6C434D5E63ED@petdance.com> As Pete and I start working on an announcement for the November 10-12 hackathon, we'd like to have some projects we can talk about that people will be working on. Perl 6 and Parrot are on the agenda, of course, but what about others? Chris Dolan might want to work on Perl::Critic? Jonathan Rockway working on HTML::Tidy? What else? Let me know, so that YOUR project can help advertise the hackathon! Thanks, xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From steve at fisharerojo.org Wed Aug 23 17:01:38 2006 From: steve at fisharerojo.org (Steve Peters) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:01:38 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Hackathon projects In-Reply-To: <9F3BEFED-AB92-49E5-85CD-6C434D5E63ED@petdance.com> References: <9F3BEFED-AB92-49E5-85CD-6C434D5E63ED@petdance.com> Message-ID: <20060824000138.GA7651@kirk.peters.homeunix.org> On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 04:51:47PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > As Pete and I start working on an announcement for the November 10-12 > hackathon, we'd like to have some projects we can talk about that > people will be working on. Perl 6 and Parrot are on the agenda, of > course, but what about others? > > Chris Dolan might want to work on Perl::Critic? Jonathan Rockway > working on HTML::Tidy? What else? > > Let me know, so that YOUR project can help advertise the hackathon! > I would be happy to work with anyone who is interested in helping out with the Perl 5 core! I am thinking about working on the "A test for every bug" project I've been thinking about for a long time. Making Schwern poorer from the perltodo, would be a welcome cost offset for the hackathon for the TPF. I'd also be happy to encourage anyone working on any PITA-related as well :) Steve Peters steve at fisharerojo.org From andy at petdance.com Wed Aug 23 18:02:20 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 20:02:20 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Hackathon projects In-Reply-To: <20060824000138.GA7651@kirk.peters.homeunix.org> References: <9F3BEFED-AB92-49E5-85CD-6C434D5E63ED@petdance.com> <20060824000138.GA7651@kirk.peters.homeunix.org> Message-ID: On Aug 23, 2006, at 7:01 PM, Steve Peters wrote: > I would be happy to work with anyone who is interested in helping > out with the Perl 5 core! I am thinking about working on the > "A test for every bug" project Excellent, will you please write a paragraph describing it so I can put it on a projects page? thanks, Andy -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From briank at kappacs.com Thu Aug 24 11:54:01 2006 From: briank at kappacs.com (Brian Katzung) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:54:01 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] OT: Linux & Windows admin positions in Schaumburg In-Reply-To: <44E5DD20.5030901@jrock.us> References: <49d805d70608172238k2eae2236g84b31f2e41db3723@mail.gmail.com> <44E5DD20.5030901@jrock.us> Message-ID: <44EDF5C9.5050206@kappacs.com> A colleague is looking to fill two full-time, on-site, contract or contract-to-hire positions at a client in Schaumburg (Illinois): * Windows desktop support (for an environment with Outlook and Active Directory, multiple domains) * A Linux administrator (Cisco, Veritas for backups, Intertel Phone Switch, DB2) Drop me a line if you are interested or want more information and I'll hook you up. -- Brian Katzung Kappa Computer Solutions, LLC www.kappacs.com 877.367.8837 x1 From JJacobus at PonyX.com Thu Aug 24 13:30:13 2006 From: JJacobus at PonyX.com (Jim Jacobus) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:30:13 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Probably and easy explanation I'm missing... Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.2.20060824152445.03123bd0@SurplusRecord.com> I realize I'm not as smart as a I once was. I'm confused about the following substitution: my $filename = $GLOBAL{'FILE_NAME'}; $filename =~ s/.+\\([^\\]+)$|.+\/([^\/]+)$/$1/; How does the $1 work in this? Is it necessary? This is from an old piece of code. The s/ line is generating errors in my Apache log file and I can't figure out why. Thanks for any help. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/chicago-talk/attachments/20060824/9b30d020/attachment.html From jon at jrock.us Thu Aug 24 13:44:34 2006 From: jon at jrock.us (Jonathan Rockway) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:44:34 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Probably and easy explanation I'm missing... In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20060824152445.03123bd0@SurplusRecord.com> References: <6.2.5.6.2.20060824152445.03123bd0@SurplusRecord.com> Message-ID: <44EE0FB2.5040907@jrock.us> > I realize I'm not as smart as a I once was. I'm confused about the > following substitution: > my $filename = $GLOBAL{'FILE_NAME'}; > $filename =~ s/.+\\([^\\]+)$|.+\/([^\/]+)$/$1/; > > How does the $1 work in this? Is it necessary? $1 is the contents of the (capture). You're replacing the entire match with the value of the first capture. (There are two first captures in your case, though :) Let's use a simpler example: s/(\d+)[.](\d+)/$2$1/; This will match something like this: 1234.5678 And fill ($1, $2) with ("1234", "5678") The replacement part then replaces the entire match with "$2$1", yielding: 56781234 Something like aaaaa1234.5678aaaaaa will change to aaaaa56781234aaaaaa. Anyway, your substitution will change something like "foo\bar" to "bar", or foo\bar\baz to "baz". The | chooses between Windows paths and UNIX paths. BTW, File::Spec would be a better way to do this. Finally, you might enjoy using "use re 'debug';" at the top of your program. It will give you helpful output like this: $ perl -Mre=debug -ne 's/foo/bar/g; print;' Freeing REx: `","' Compiling REx `foo' size 3 Got 28 bytes for offset annotations. first at 1 1: EXACT (3) 3: END(0) anchored "foo" at 0 (checking anchored isall) minlen 3 Offsets: [3] 1[3] 0[0] 4[0] typed> this is a foo bar Guessing start of match, REx "foo" against "this is a foo bar "... Found anchored substr "foo" at offset 10... Starting position does not contradict /^/m... Guessed: match at offset 10 Matching REx "foo" against "foo bar " Setting an EVAL scope, savestack=8 10 | 1: EXACT 13 < bar > | 3: END Match successful! Guessing start of match, REx "foo" against " bar "... Did not find anchored substr "foo"... Match rejected by optimizer Not present... Match failed result> this is a bar bar ^C Regards, Jonathan Rockway From Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov Thu Aug 24 13:48:41 2006 From: Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov (Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:48:41 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Probably and easy explanation I'm missing... In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20060824152445.03123bd0@SurplusRecord.com> Message-ID: my $filename = $GLOBAL{'FILE_NAME'}; $filename =~ s/.+\\([^\\]+)$|.+\/([^\/]+)$/$1/; > How does the $1 work in this? Is it necessary? $1 in this context is the first captured chunk of the match on the LHS of the subst command: $filename =~ s/.+\\([^\\]+)$|.+\/([^\/]+)$/$1/; Sooo .... "one or more non-\n chars followed by a literal "\" and then a captured one or more non"\" chars to the end of th line *OR* one or more non-\n chars followed by a literal '/' and then a captured one or more non-'\' chars up to the end of the line." Maybe. Replace it all w/ the captured text - the idea being: $filenmae eq '/hi/ho/mom' becomes: $filename eq 'mom'; regardless of the slashes. What error this generates would be helpful but ... one problem is, you don't know if the subst worked. It should be (at least) my $filename = $GLOBAL{'FILE_NAME'}; if ($filename =~ s/.+\\([^\\]+)$|.+\/([^\/]+)$/$1/ ) { # now we have a bare filename } else { # now we have a filename that didn't match } # if filename =~ Conventional wisdome is to use the core module File::Basename - which handles all the slashing problems (perldoc File::Basename) use File::Basename; ($name,$path,$suffix) = fileparse($fullname, at suffixlist) fileparse_set_fstype($os_string); $basename = basename($fullname, at suffixlist); $dirname = dirname($fullname); ($name,$path,$suffix) = fileparse("lib/File/Basename.pm",qr{\.pm}); fileparse_set_fstype("VMS"); $basename = basename("lib/File/Basename.pm",qr{\.pm}); $dirname = dirname("lib/File/Basename.pm"); a Andy Bach, Sys. Mangler Internet: andy_bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov VOICE: (608) 261-5738 FAX 264-5932 "They think they invented NIH." Colin McCormack on Debian insiders From tigerpeng2001 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 24 14:18:23 2006 From: tigerpeng2001 at yahoo.com (tiger peng) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Chicago-talk] Probably and easy explanation I'm missing... In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20060824152445.03123bd0@SurplusRecord.com> Message-ID: <20060824211823.11687.qmail@web54701.mail.yahoo.com> > s/.+\\([^\\]+)$|.+\/([^\/]+)$/$1/; May be it try to say: s/.*\\([^\\]+)$|.*\/([^\/]+)$/$1?$1:$2/e Replace the whole line with the last field if the line contain '/' or '\' functions as field separator. From tigerpeng2001 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 24 14:30:12 2006 From: tigerpeng2001 at yahoo.com (tiger peng) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Chicago-talk] Probably and easy explanation I'm missing... In-Reply-To: <20060824211823.11687.qmail@web54701.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060824213012.36320.qmail@web54705.mail.yahoo.com> Try this: perl -le ' @a=qw ( /a a/b /a/b /a/b/ \a \a\b a\b \a\b\ ); foreach (@a) { print; s/.*\\([^\\]+)$|.*\/([^\/]+)$/$1?$1:$2/e; print; } ' --- tiger peng wrote: > > > s/.+\\([^\\]+)$|.+\/([^\/]+)$/$1/; > > May be it try to say: > > s/.*\\([^\\]+)$|.*\/([^\/]+)$/$1?$1:$2/e > > Replace the whole line with the last field if the > line > contain '/' or '\' functions as field separator. > > _______________________________________________ > Chicago-talk mailing list > Chicago-talk at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk > From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Thu Aug 24 21:32:22 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 23:32:22 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Meeting Follow-up Message-ID: <49d805d70608242132o55649488u738f3a8567d8cb6d@mail.gmail.com> Thanks to everyone for coming out to the meeting tonight and also a very big thanks to Mike and Jonathan for presenting! Just a few notes one upcoming events that were announced at the meetings: 1) This Monday, August 28th, is the final of this summer's round of TechCoffee meetings. The meetings are downtown at 6:00 a.m. More information can be found at http://techcoffee.infogami.com/. Be there or be well rested for work :) 2) The Pittsburgh Perl Workshop (http://www.pghpw.org/) is going to be held on Saturday, September 23rd. Chicago's own Mike Fragassi and brian d foy will be speaking there. I know that Heather and I are attending. If anyone wants to go, Amtrak is offering a 2-for-1 ticket deal where two people can travel round-trip for $102 using coupon H568. There is a train that leaves at 5:30 p.m. on the 22nd and arrives at Pittsburgh at 4:00 a.m. It then heads back at 11:30 p.m. on the 23rd and will have you back in Chicago by 8:30 Sunday morning. 3) Pete and Andy have planned out a Perl hack-a-thon scheduled for the weekend of November 10th, 11th, and 12th. Chip Salzenberg, the Parrot Pumpking, will be the guest hacker. Skills ranging from hard-core hackers to beginners are all welcome. Andy and/or Pete will be trickling out information as they finalize it. I think that's all of the events so far. It looks like we already also have a couple of talks lined up for September's PM meeting... announcements soon. Josh From andy at petdance.com Fri Aug 25 12:55:08 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:55:08 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Chicago Perl Mongers wiki Message-ID: <80E339D8-D5F0-4C3A-A7D4-9A69A399D186@petdance.com> I've put up a wiki at http://rakudo.org/chicago-pm There's a link to it on the header of all the chicago.pm.org pages. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Fri Aug 25 14:49:38 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:49:38 -0400 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Fwd: [LUNI] Chicago GLUG: information update In-Reply-To: <44EDCEB4.90604@chicagolug.org> References: <44EDCEB4.90604@chicagolug.org> Message-ID: <49d805d70608251449h2288c53dp4a2ca7b40a95a5e7@mail.gmail.com> One more thing that I said that I'd forward, but don't think that I have yet.... the Chicago LUG is having a presentation on erlang on September 9th. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: John Quigley Date: Aug 24, 2006 12:07 PM Subject: [LUNI] Chicago GLUG: information update To: LUNI List Hey Everyone: Hope this finds you all happy and in good spirits, and welcome back to Chicago for all of the students who left town over summer. The Chicago GLUG had a resoundingly successful summer: we took part in, and helped initiate, events such as the Anti-DRM protest, BarCamp and the Hackathon. We met all sorts of new people and generated a lot of interest in the group. Let's push strongly into the new year. I want to galvanize our forces, this fall, and really make the GLUG a well known organization in the Chicago community. Step 1: inform everyone of our meetings waaay ahead of time, so that people can put the events on their personal calendars. In that vein, September meetings are slated to take place on the following dates: * 2006 September 09 @ 5p * 2006 September 23 @ 5p See this thread for more: http://www.chicagolug.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=683 These are going to be big meetings. On the 9th, Tristan is going to be making a presentation on the distributed computing Erlang language. John Q will be continuing his presentation on how to write shellcodes. I'm bringing in speakers for the 23rd meeting: Joe Born, lead developer on the open source Neuros OSD, and Mark Matthews, a developer on the MySQL project. We're still seeking people interested in giving lightning talks. If you are interested, please email me! Step 2: Get more people out to our physical meetings. Our digital community is growing rapidly, but we still have variable meeting turn-outs. This is largely my fault, for not performing proper advertisement of meetings. I'll take it upon myself to correct that aspect of things, as mentioned above. But, I also ask that each of you take 30 minutes a week to go into other communities that you're a part of, and inform people about the GLUG. Point the people at our digital resources: the wiki, forums and mailing list are all good candidates. Feel free to give people my direct contact information, I'm pretty good at pulling people into the group =) Step 3: Give to the community. That means you! We need a more diverse set of speakers. We need more people putting content up on our wiki. We need more people helping out with administrative, advertisement and general organizational tasks. We want this to be a democratic community, so please take some responsibility onto yourself - I can only do so much. I also need to do some delegation. This will be an important function of the September 9th meeting. If you're interested in taking on a 'titled' role within the GLUG, please be sure to come to that meeting. We're going to be discussing a restructuring and delegation of roles. Ken did an incredible, a simply amazing job, on the website this summer. I'd like to nominate him the webmaster. Please see this thread for more, and add your thoughts: http://www.chicagolug.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=3154 Step 4: Create more on-line technical discussion. I think a good way to facilitate this is to exploit the powers of mailman. Hardly anyone is subscribed or using our discussions list. I ask that everyone please become a subscriber: http://chicagolug.org/lists/listinfo/discussions At the end of the day, what will really attract people to us is the quality of our technical output. We are, after all, a technical organization. Now, that output can take the form of published documents (on our wiki or otherwise) or published discussions. Mailman provides a wonderfully easy way to discuss things, and automatically archives everything for easy web-based review. A very powerful medium, and I really think we should be leveraging this a lot more. Those are my thoughts for now. Let's strike up some discussion on the points made in this email - I'll see you all on the forums and discussions list! I look forward to seeing everyone! Regards, John Quigley email: jquigley at chicagolug.org cell: 312.351.3671 home: http://www.chicagolug.org/~jquigley/ -- Linux Users Of Northern Illinois - Technical Discussion http://luni.org/mailman/listinfo/luni From andy at petdance.com Sat Aug 26 18:56:27 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 20:56:27 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] RSS feeds for upcoming events Message-ID: <07411F66-DAB6-4C2A-80CD-4B56F4720C04@petdance.com> Now that we have the wiki going, and there's a page for upcoming events: http://rakudo.org/chicago-pm/index.cgi?upcoming_events you can watch that page via RSS: http://rakudo.org/noauth/feed/workspace/chicago-pm? page=upcoming_events You can watch any page on the wiki, for that matter. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From steve at fisharerojo.org Sun Aug 27 18:37:00 2006 From: steve at fisharerojo.org (Steve Peters) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 20:37:00 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Hackathon projects In-Reply-To: References: <9F3BEFED-AB92-49E5-85CD-6C434D5E63ED@petdance.com> <20060824000138.GA7651@kirk.peters.homeunix.org> Message-ID: <44F248BC.4090506@fisharerojo.org> Andy Lester wrote: > On Aug 23, 2006, at 7:01 PM, Steve Peters wrote: > >> I would be happy to work with anyone who is interested in helping >> out with the Perl 5 core! I am thinking about working on the >> "A test for every bug" project > > Excellent, will you please write a paragraph describing it so I can > put it on a projects page? > > thanks, > Andy Like any large project, Perl has a large number of bugs. Fortunately, Perl also has a large test suite to help ensure that old bugs don't return and many new bugs are discovered quickly. Unfortunately, however, there have been many times where bugs have been fixed, but the actual bug reports have stayed open because the bug reports haven't been turned into test cases and added to the Perl core. During the hackathon, I plan on working to convert as many bug reports as possible into test cases and add them back to the Perl core. I'm also hoping to fix a few of the bugs along the way, combine duplicate reports, and otherwise clean up the bug queue even further than my previous work has done. Steve Peters steve at fisharerojo.org From tobert at gmail.com Sun Aug 27 20:50:37 2006 From: tobert at gmail.com (Al Tobey) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:50:37 -0400 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Hackathon projects In-Reply-To: <44F248BC.4090506@fisharerojo.org> References: <9F3BEFED-AB92-49E5-85CD-6C434D5E63ED@petdance.com> <20060824000138.GA7651@kirk.peters.homeunix.org> <44F248BC.4090506@fisharerojo.org> Message-ID: <5ac7acb10608272050n3fe77a6dv92adf7edce1907f8@mail.gmail.com> > Like any large project, Perl has a large number of bugs. Fortunately, > Perl also has a large test suite to help ensure that old bugs don't > return and many new bugs are discovered quickly. Unfortunately, > however, there have been many times where bugs have been fixed, but the > actual bug reports have stayed open because the bug reports haven't been > turned into test cases and added to the Perl core. During the > hackathon, I plan on working to convert as many bug reports as possible > into test cases and add them back to the Perl core. I'm also hoping to > fix a few of the bugs along the way, combine duplicate reports, and > otherwise clean up the bug queue even further than my previous work has > done. > > Steve Peters > steve at fisharerojo.org It looks like there will be a few of us from GR.pm coming down for the hackathon. None of us (that I know of) are involved with perl 6 yet. Something like this would be great for our contingent to work on, if somebody will help us get started. Try to think about how you could divvy up the work for some people coming to be workhorses. -Al Tobey President, Grand Rapids Perl Mongers From andy at petdance.com Mon Aug 28 12:47:57 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:47:57 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Announcing The Chicago Hackathon 2006 Message-ID: <7D7C81DF-4F80-4CB6-8174-1C96E9E6D084@petdance.com> The Chicago Perl Mongers and The Perl Foundation are proud to announce the Fall 2006 Chicago Hackathon, the weekend of November 10-12, 2006 in suburban Crystal Lake, IL. It will be a round-the- clock weekend of programming on Perl-related projects with your colleagues in the open source community. Dozens of programmers from the open source community in the midwest, as well as others from around the US, will be getting together to share ideas, work on code, and move their Perl-related projects forward. The participants set the agenda for what we'll be working on, but Perl 6 and Parrot are already on the roster of projects. Chip Salzenberg, pumpking for the Parrot project, will be on hand to help with Parrot and Perl 6. Andy Lester will also be driving some Parrot maintenance tasks, and other midwest programmers will be working on their own projects. There's sure to be something interesting for everyone! Participation in the hackathon costs nothing. The Perl Foundation is even providing hotel rooms at a special rate if you want to spend the night. Even if you're in the area for just an hour, stop by, grab a snack or some pizza and talk with other people interested in Perl. You might contribute more than you think just by talking with other programmers. To find out more, visit http://hackathon.info. If you'll be attending, please sign in on the Attendees wiki page, and/or email rsvp at hackathon.info. You can also send questions to Andy Lester at andy at hackathon.info Please feel free to forward this to whichever groups you may find appropriate! -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From bdoty at efs-us.com Mon Aug 28 13:50:41 2006 From: bdoty at efs-us.com (Brad Doty) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:50:41 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Hackathon Train Directions Message-ID: FYI, If you are planning to fly to O'Hare and head out to Crystal Lake via the trains... The directions on the excellent Hackathon site advise you to take the Blue Line El to Irving Park then walk to the outbound Metra UP Northwest line. If it was me, I'd get off at Jefferson Park to switch to the Northwest line. It's the Metra station touted as the "transfer" station to trains, planes, and buses, and has a walkway to the El station. Perhaps somebody else knows that the Irving Park El & Metra stations are closer or better, but as far as I know, Jefferson Park is at least as good and it's a couple minutes closer to O'Hare. You can always buy a ticket (and the $5 weekend pass at least on Sat/Sun) on the (Metra) train, but there's a $2 surcharge if you get on at a station while a ticket agent is on duty and you don't buy at the station. CAVEAT 1: Jefferson & Irving Parks are served by local trains that take a long time to get out to Crystal Lake. When returning, you will have to take a local back into Jefferson/Irving, or take an express to some suburb like Park Ridge, Des Plaines or Arlington Heights, ASKING FOR A TRANSFER PUNCH OF YOUR TICKET FROM THE CONDUCTOR, get off, cross to the local track to Chicago, and then wait for a local to take you into Jefferson or Irving Park. Please check your schedule at http://metrarail.com/Sched/cnw_nw/cnw_nw.shtml CAVEAT 2: Crystal Lake is not the public transit mecca that Chicago is. If you want to get around out there, you need a car or the phone number of a taxi service. (847) 368-0303 is 303 Taxi, which is good as far northwest as Arlington Heights. Someday I gotta learn to be more concise. Brad Doty From andy at petdance.com Mon Aug 28 13:59:44 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:59:44 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Hackathon Train Directions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8E2DE2AB-5502-49ED-926D-6988838377C5@petdance.com> On Aug 28, 2006, at 3:50 PM, Brad Doty wrote: > FYI, Hey, Brad, I meant the Hackathon Chicago mailing list. :-) Would also be a great page to start on the wiki! -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From andy at petdance.com Mon Aug 28 17:38:39 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:38:39 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Company listing Message-ID: <0CD199CA-FD85-417F-A4FE-1EF8F66D856F@petdance.com> I was reminded of Mike Schienle's Perl Companies page. http://www.customvisuals.com/cgi-bin/PerlCompanies.pl Now that we have a wiki, it could go on a page there and be updated by whoever, whenever. xoa -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From steve at fisharerojo.org Mon Aug 28 19:01:40 2006 From: steve at fisharerojo.org (Steve Peters) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:01:40 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Hackathon projects In-Reply-To: <5ac7acb10608272050n3fe77a6dv92adf7edce1907f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <9F3BEFED-AB92-49E5-85CD-6C434D5E63ED@petdance.com> <20060824000138.GA7651@kirk.peters.homeunix.org> <44F248BC.4090506@fisharerojo.org> <5ac7acb10608272050n3fe77a6dv92adf7edce1907f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44F3A004.5010905@fisharerojo.org> Al Tobey wrote: >> Like any large project, Perl has a large number of bugs. Fortunately, >> Perl also has a large test suite to help ensure that old bugs don't >> return and many new bugs are discovered quickly. Unfortunately, >> however, there have been many times where bugs have been fixed, but the >> actual bug reports have stayed open because the bug reports haven't been >> turned into test cases and added to the Perl core. During the >> hackathon, I plan on working to convert as many bug reports as possible >> into test cases and add them back to the Perl core. I'm also hoping to >> fix a few of the bugs along the way, combine duplicate reports, and >> otherwise clean up the bug queue even further than my previous work has >> done. >> >> Steve Peters >> steve at fisharerojo.org > > It looks like there will be a few of us from GR.pm coming down for the > hackathon. None of us (that I know of) are involved with perl 6 yet. > Something like this would be great for our contingent to work on, > if somebody will help us get started. > > Try to think about how you could divvy up the work for some people > coming to be workhorses. > Excellent! I will be happy to help anyone get started to help out. I'll set up a page on the hackathon wiki as we get a little closer to the actual date to get some of the prep work (what Perl's we need, RT queue URLs, etc.) taken care of prior to the actual hackathon if you wish. Steve Peters steve at fisharerojo.org From chris.mcavoy at gmail.com Wed Aug 30 11:27:28 2006 From: chris.mcavoy at gmail.com (Chris McAvoy) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:27:28 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Secret Radio Project Message-ID: <3096c19d0608301127t71f96659l5cca9cee702c99fe@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, My pal is the lead web guy at Chicago Public Radio. They're currently embarking on a pretty ambitious project that has the potential to be awesome for Chicago, and awesome for Radio. Details are at http://secretradioproject.com The short of it is, they're going to be setting up a sort of youtube site where people can submit audio. The audio is cleaned up, and then possibly aired on 89.5, WBEZ's sister station that the FCC just granted a big boost in wattage to. They're looking for a contractor (or contracting company) to implement the web side of the project by the end of December. It's a pretty tight time table, but doable with the right developer. They're committed to implementing the site using open source tools, and potentially open sourcing the entire site once it's completed, there's even the potential for the site to be built openly over the next few months. Like I said, it's pretty ambitious. They posted the RFP ad on the 37signals job board here http://jobs.37signals.com/jobs/418 . They aren't putting any restrictions on platform for proposed solutions, but they're leaning in the PHP / Drupal direction. Chris From merlyn at stonehenge.com Wed Aug 30 11:51:51 2006 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: 30 Aug 2006 11:51:51 -0700 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Secret Radio Project In-Reply-To: <3096c19d0608301127t71f96659l5cca9cee702c99fe@mail.gmail.com> References: <3096c19d0608301127t71f96659l5cca9cee702c99fe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <864pvuhxa0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Chris" == Chris McAvoy writes: Chris> The short of it is, they're going to be setting up a sort of youtube Chris> site where people can submit audio. The audio is cleaned up, and then Chris> possibly aired on 89.5, WBEZ's sister station that the FCC just Chris> granted a big boost in wattage to. And this is different from KYOU in San Francisco, how? :) (http://www.kyouradio.com/) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From andy at petdance.com Wed Aug 30 12:03:28 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:03:28 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Secret Radio Project In-Reply-To: <864pvuhxa0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <3096c19d0608301127t71f96659l5cca9cee702c99fe@mail.gmail.com> <864pvuhxa0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: On Aug 30, 2006, at 1:51 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > And this is different from KYOU in San Francisco, how? :) > (http://www.kyouradio.com/) Why does it have to be different? -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From andy at petdance.com Wed Aug 30 12:03:28 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:03:28 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Secret Radio Project In-Reply-To: <864pvuhxa0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <3096c19d0608301127t71f96659l5cca9cee702c99fe@mail.gmail.com> <864pvuhxa0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: On Aug 30, 2006, at 1:51 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > And this is different from KYOU in San Francisco, how? :) > (http://www.kyouradio.com/) Why does it have to be different? -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance From chris.mcavoy at gmail.com Wed Aug 30 12:11:59 2006 From: chris.mcavoy at gmail.com (Chris McAvoy) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:11:59 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Secret Radio Project In-Reply-To: <864pvuhxa0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <3096c19d0608301127t71f96659l5cca9cee702c99fe@mail.gmail.com> <864pvuhxa0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <3096c19d0608301211n42d2a8b2o453059ea9c70d52b@mail.gmail.com> On 30 Aug 2006 11:51:51 -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>>>> "Chris" == Chris McAvoy writes: > > Chris> The short of it is, they're going to be setting up a sort of youtube > Chris> site where people can submit audio. The audio is cleaned up, and then > Chris> possibly aired on 89.5, WBEZ's sister station that the FCC just > Chris> granted a big boost in wattage to. > I accidentally only replied to Randal. I said, "yeah, that looks pretty similar." Go radio! Chris From dlim at sdf.lonestar.org Wed Aug 30 17:43:07 2006 From: dlim at sdf.lonestar.org (Doug Lim) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:43:07 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Chicago-talk] Secret Radio Project In-Reply-To: <864pvuhxa0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <3096c19d0608301127t71f96659l5cca9cee702c99fe@mail.gmail.com> <864pvuhxa0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > And this is different from KYOU in San Francisco, how? :) > (http://www.kyouradio.com/) > https://www.radiomat.com/register.php?action=register&station=kycyam Open Source Radio ... "Currently KYCY-AM is available in Windows Media format only". Irony. (Yes, I realize the "Open Source" in Open Source Media refers more to the content.) From wlindsey at blackhatlounge.net Thu Aug 31 05:29:09 2006 From: wlindsey at blackhatlounge.net (Warren Lindsey) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 07:29:09 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] Secret Radio Project In-Reply-To: <864pvuhxa0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <3096c19d0608301127t71f96659l5cca9cee702c99fe@mail.gmail.com> <864pvuhxa0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <44F6D615.7020805@blackhatlounge.net> This one is in Chicago, where MY radio is :-) Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>>"Chris" == Chris McAvoy writes: > > > Chris> The short of it is, they're going to be setting up a sort of youtube > Chris> site where people can submit audio. The audio is cleaned up, and then > Chris> possibly aired on 89.5, WBEZ's sister station that the FCC just > Chris> granted a big boost in wattage to. > > And this is different from KYOU in San Francisco, how? :) > (http://www.kyouradio.com/) > From andy at petdance.com Thu Aug 31 07:24:56 2006 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 09:24:56 -0500 Subject: [Chicago-talk] BarCampMilwaukee Message-ID: From one of the organizers: http://barcampmilwaukee.com If you missed BarCampChicago (or had a great time at BarCampChicago) you might be interested in BarCampMilwaukee. Visit your neighbors to the north for a weekend of technology and creativity at Milwaukee's first BarCamp. A BarCamp is an ad-hoc gathering born from the desire for people to share and learn in an open environment. It is an intense event with discussions, demos, and interaction from participants. BarCampMilwaukee is a 24+ hour event focused on technology and creativity. It's at Bucketworks, 1319 N. Martin Luther King Jr. Drive, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, on Saturday September 30th and Sunday October 1st, 2006. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance