From me at heyjay.com  Sun Apr  2 18:34:05 2006
From: me at heyjay.com (Jay Strauss)
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 20:34:05 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Making a module work when installed by root or
	non-root
Message-ID: <200604022034.05881.me@heyjay.com>

Hi,

I have a module it uses Inline::Java.  By default Inline::Java builds a 
"_Inline" directory (where it creates and stores some compiled code) at your 
pwd, when you use Inline::Java.  So, unless you are sitting in exactly the 
same spot (directory-wise), your filesystem becomes littered with "_Inline" 
directories.

Inline allows you to specify the location of "_Inline".  So I was specifying 
it below $Config{sitelib}.

The problem is, others who use this module are not installing as "root" so 
they lack the permissions to create the necessary directories.

Should I just create the directory in the user's home directory?  Is there 
somewhere else more appropriate?  This module is on CPAN if that makes any 
difference to the answer.

Thanks
Jay

From andy_bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov  Sun Apr  2 19:14:58 2006
From: andy_bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov (Andy Bach)
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 21:14:58 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] [Fwd: Re: [svn:perl6-synopsis] r8532 -
	doc/trunk/design/syn]
Message-ID: <44308522.8020005@wiwb.uscourts.gov>

fwded from perl6 by Andy Bach

"AT" == Audrey Tang <audreyt at audreyt.org> writes:

  AT> Uri Guttman wrote:
  >> one of these days when i have tuits of large circumference, i will do a
  >> nit pass over as much of the A/E/S as i can handle before my brain
  >> explodes. having done tech editing for perl books is good training for
  >> this. in fact it would be a good idea to have several such passes by
  >> those with editing skill before those docs are 'released'. some of the
  >> concepts are so new to so many and are bleeding edge that the wording
  >> used has to be extra clean of nits and such stuff as dangling pronouns
  >> and other common flaws of technical writing.

  AT> Indeed.  If we can arrange to have a "docathon" of factoring S* via such
  AT> reviewing passes into Perl6::Doc::{Spec,Overview,Tutorial} documents,
  AT> that can greatly speed up Perl 6 adoption.

  AT> Got some cycles at YAPC::NA::Chicago?  :) 

i dunno now. is there going to be a hackathon like last year before
toronto? i could possibly get there early for some of that and get some
of that manic group energy focused on the docs. hell, i would do it just
to try to grok some of the stuff that is flying around.  :) 

so is anyone going to volunteer their place for this?

uri



From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Sun Apr  2 19:31:25 2006
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 21:31:25 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] [Fwd: Re: [svn:perl6-synopsis] r8532 -
	doc/trunk/design/syn]
In-Reply-To: <44308522.8020005@wiwb.uscourts.gov>
References: <44308522.8020005@wiwb.uscourts.gov>
Message-ID: <49d805d70604021931u6207164eq39a410968df58647@mail.gmail.com>

> i dunno now. is there going to be a hackathon like last year before
> toronto? i could possibly get there early for some of that and get some
> of that manic group energy focused on the docs. hell, i would do it just
> to try to grok some of the stuff that is flying around.  :)

Let's have one.  I don't see what it would hurt.

> so is anyone going to volunteer their place for this?

Would this need to be a private residence?  The SSV dorm at IIT has
wireless throughout, as well as, some decent meeting spaces.  I bet we
could just all meet up somewhere like that.

From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Sun Apr  2 22:34:17 2006
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 00:34:17 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] YAPC::NA questions
In-Reply-To: <442AD6D0.7080601@danconia.org>
References: <442AD6D0.7080601@danconia.org>
Message-ID: <49d805d70604022234y5ffa5e7ai1c7b88c8e5d40fae@mail.gmail.com>

> 1. What is the deadline for early registration?

You'll have until the end of April to get in on the early registration.

> 2. Is there at least a preliminary schedule (for anything that can be
> scheduled), and if not is there an anticipated start time. Basically to
> determine whether it would be necessary to fly in Sunday night, or if
> Monday morning is a possibility.

We'll be getting started about 8:30 or 9:00 a.m. Monday morning, so
you'll probably want to get in the night before.  If you need an
excuse to leave early, typically a group goes out the Sunday night
before YAPC for a dinner.  Also, there has been some rumbling about a
hack-a-thon.  And if you want, it seems like the Sox might be playing
early that Sunday.

See you at YAPC,
Josh

From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Sun Apr  2 22:35:26 2006
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 00:35:26 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] YAPC::NA questions
In-Reply-To: <442AD6D0.7080601@danconia.org>
References: <442AD6D0.7080601@danconia.org>
Message-ID: <49d805d70604022235g4224442wdc4a074920fc47bf@mail.gmail.com>

> p.s. At least one person mentioned they found it odd that YAPC would use
> a PHP based cart for registration.

PHP blogging software too :)  My web host had it pre-installed so it
was just too easy not to go with what was there.

From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Mon Apr  3 08:36:28 2006
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 11:36:28 -0400
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perl::Critic at Uniforum and YAPC Scheduling
Message-ID: <49d805d70604030836o53a9b8a0jce1929b84bbab832@mail.gmail.com>

It looks like I'm on the hook for a Uniforum presentation on
Perl::Critic April 11th.  If you haven't seen, Perl::Critic is a nifty
set of modules that use PPI to parse your code and tell you how bad it
is :)

For more information on the presentation and directions to IIT check
out http://www.uniforum.chi.il.us/meetings/perlcritic.html

If you want to take a peek at Perl::Critic, you can find it at
http://search.cpan.org/dist/Perl-Critic/

Also, we are officially ending the call for papers for YAPC::NA on
April 10th.  I'll bring along all of the submissions that we received.
 For those who want to have a say at what is presented at YAPC, stick
around after the presentation and we can start discussing the
conference schedule.

Thanks,
Josh

From steve at fisharerojo.org  Tue Apr  4 18:57:49 2006
From: steve at fisharerojo.org (Steve Peters)
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:57:49 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Is this a doable place to go to?
Message-ID: <20060405015749.GA21393@fisharerojo.org>

Hi all,

Looking at online maps is always tricky when you're not 100% familiar
with the area.  I was looking at Pat McCurdy's online schedule and saw
that he'll be at the Beat Kitchen (2100 W. Belmont, Chicago) in Chicago
on June 26th.  Is anyone familiar with the place/area?  It also sounds
like its accessible via public transportation ("a mile west of the
Belmont (Howard/Dan Ryan) "L" station" according to
http://www.patmccurdy.com/where.htm?Beat+Kitchen).  Is public
transportation a real option?

Steve Peters
steve at fisharerojo.org
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From andy_bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov  Tue Apr  4 19:23:56 2006
From: andy_bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov (Andy Bach)
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 21:23:56 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Pre-YAPC hack-a-thon
In-Reply-To: <20060405015749.GA21393@fisharerojo.org>
References: <20060405015749.GA21393@fisharerojo.org>
Message-ID: <44332A3C.7030202@wiwb.uscourts.gov>

Hey Folks,

Sorry, I'm was a little limited by access - I had just forwarded a msg 
from a perl 6 list from Uri G., A. Tang and cetera discussing having a 
pre-YAPC hackathon.  They were looking for a location for that for the 
Sat/Sun before YAPC. I'm hopeful the Powers that Run YAPC are on to this 
but ... just in case - did that request get through?   Is it going to 
happen?  They mentioned the campus - will that work?

Seems like there's alot accomplished and even us spear-bearers can help 
by doing 'nit' searches on the grammer/understandable/typo level of the 
docs etc. so - keep us informed?

Thanks.

a

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From wgoulet at gmail.com  Tue Apr  4 19:40:51 2006
From: wgoulet at gmail.com (Walter Goulet)
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 21:40:51 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Is this a doable place to go to?
In-Reply-To: <20060405015749.GA21393@fisharerojo.org>
References: <20060405015749.GA21393@fisharerojo.org>
Message-ID: <44332E33.6020600@gmail.com>

Steve Peters wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>Looking at online maps is always tricky when you're not 100% familiar
>with the area.  I was looking at Pat McCurdy's online schedule and saw
>that he'll be at the Beat Kitchen (2100 W. Belmont, Chicago) in Chicago
>on June 26th.  Is anyone familiar with the place/area?  It also sounds
>like its accessible via public transportation ("a mile west of the
>Belmont (Howard/Dan Ryan) "L" station" according to
>http://www.patmccurdy.com/where.htm?Beat+Kitchen).  Is public
>transportation a real option?
>
>Steve Peters
>steve at fisharerojo.org
>  
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
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>
Hi,

As a Chicago resident on the north side, I'd say that public 
transportation will be fine. From IIT, you can get to the red line (you 
have to cross the Dan Ryan expressway so it's a bit of a hike from the 
MTCC). There's a Belmont bus that runs pretty late if memory serves that 
can get you over to Belmont and Damon (which is 2000 w. Belmont). The 
area's pretty safe; I've been to Beat Kitchen once but it was a very 
long time ago.

Oh, and the maps on the CTA's website are very helpful; there's a trip 
planner than can help you calculate times etc.
http://www.transitchicago.com/

HTH
walter

From NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com  Wed Apr  5 07:19:26 2006
From: NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com (Stowe, Nola)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 09:19:26 -0500 
Subject: [Chicago-talk] www::mech, simple search engine idea?
Message-ID: <A8DB527335656742B82AA4CB101C96FD024579BA@mail.windows.thettgroup.com>

Hey, you know of anything similar to www mech written in php? .. although I
may get the blessing to go ahead and use perl for this.. I could perhaps
give them the "use the best tool for the job" speech. So that not the real
point of this (please no php flame wars).  
 
I had this idea this morning... it may be incredibly stupid..  wonder what
you guys think..  
 
A simple site search engine..  doesn't need to be incredibly complex (i.e.,
no OR NOT etc needed). problem is we have a somewhat archaic permissions
system on our pages (at least IMHO, I'd rather store them in a database)...
I cangrep pages for keywords and figure out what pages could might match,
but I need to "see the page as the current user" so I know if they have
permisisons. I thought, if I used www::mech or similar while "logged in as"
the particular user doing the search, I will know if they can see the page
or not... and if so, return it as a search result.  
 
Feasible? 
 
 
Thanks
 

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From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Wed Apr  5 08:08:38 2006
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 11:08:38 -0400
Subject: [Chicago-talk] YAPC::NA Poster
Message-ID: <49d805d70604050808g62f0a9aahc1e427528b471ab@mail.gmail.com>

We have a YAPC::NA poster!  Feel free to print it out and post at your
workplace and/or campus.

http://www.yapcchicago.org/yapc_poster.pdf

Thanks,
Josh

From jason at multiply.org  Wed Apr  5 08:49:20 2006
From: jason at multiply.org (jason gessner)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 10:49:20 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] www::mech, simple search engine idea?
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References: <A8DB527335656742B82AA4CB101C96FD024579BA@mail.windows.thettgroup.com>
Message-ID: <F5C854F5-8B6E-4A88-A62F-A5007D96E030@multiply.org>

thanks!

:)

-jason

On Apr 5, 2006, at 9:19 AM, Stowe, Nola wrote:

> Hey, you know of anything similar to www mech written in php? ..  
> although I may get the blessing to go ahead and use perl for this..  
> I could perhaps give them the "use the best tool for the job"  
> speech. So that not the real point of this (please no php flame wars).
>
> I had this idea this morning... it may be incredibly stupid..   
> wonder what you guys think..
>
> A simple site search engine..  doesn't need to be incredibly  
> complex (i.e., no OR NOT etc needed). problem is we have a somewhat  
> archaic permissions system on our pages (at least IMHO, I'd rather  
> store them in a database)... I cangrep pages for keywords and  
> figure out what pages could might match, but I need to "see the  
> page as the current user" so I know if they have permisisons. I  
> thought, if I used www::mech or similar while "logged in as" the  
> particular user doing the search, I will know if they can see the  
> page or not... and if so, return it as a search result.
>
> Feasible?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
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From NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com  Wed Apr  5 08:54:28 2006
From: NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com (Stowe, Nola)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 10:54:28 -0500 
Subject: [Chicago-talk] www::mech, simple search engine idea?
Message-ID: <A8DB527335656742B82AA4CB101C96FD02457A7B@mail.windows.thettgroup.com>

Uhh, no prob Jason! heheh.. 
 
 
you probably meant to reply to Josh's post about the poster?
 


Nola J. Stowe 
Systems Programmer 
Thornton Tomasetti 
14 E. Jackson Boulevard, Suite 1100 
Chicago, IL  60604 
T 312.596.2000  F 312.596.2001   
D 312.596.2248   
NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com 


 

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From: jason gessner [mailto:jason at multiply.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:49 AM
To: Chicago.pm chatter
Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] www::mech, simple search engine idea?


thanks! 

:)

-jason

On Apr 5, 2006, at 9:19 AM, Stowe, Nola wrote:


Hey, you know of anything similar to www mech written in php? .. although I
may get the blessing to go ahead and use perl for this.. I could perhaps
give them the "use the best tool for the job" speech. So that not the real
point of this (please no php flame wars).  
 
I had this idea this morning... it may be incredibly stupid..  wonder what
you guys think..  
 
A simple site search engine..  doesn't need to be incredibly complex (i.e.,
no OR NOT etc needed). problem is we have a somewhat archaic permissions
system on our pages (at least IMHO, I'd rather store them in a database)...
I cangrep pages for keywords and figure out what pages could might match,
but I need to "see the page as the current user" so I know if they have
permisisons. I thought, if I used www::mech or similar while "logged in as"
the particular user doing the search, I will know if they can see the page
or not... and if so, return it as a search result.  
 
Feasible? 
 
 
Thanks
 


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From jason at multiply.org  Wed Apr  5 09:00:46 2006
From: jason at multiply.org (jason gessner)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 11:00:46 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] www::mech, simple search engine idea?
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wow.  someone needs more coffee before operating heavy email  
machinery....

-jason

On Apr 5, 2006, at 10:49 AM, jason gessner wrote:

> thanks!
>
> :)
>
> -jason
>
> On Apr 5, 2006, at 9:19 AM, Stowe, Nola wrote:
>
>> Hey, you know of anything similar to www mech written in php? ..  
>> although I may get the blessing to go ahead and use perl for  
>> this.. I could perhaps give them the "use the best tool for the  
>> job" speech. So that not the real point of this (please no php  
>> flame wars).
>>
>> I had this idea this morning... it may be incredibly stupid..   
>> wonder what you guys think..
>>
>> A simple site search engine..  doesn't need to be incredibly  
>> complex (i.e., no OR NOT etc needed). problem is we have a  
>> somewhat archaic permissions system on our pages (at least IMHO,  
>> I'd rather store them in a database)... I cangrep pages for  
>> keywords and figure out what pages could might match, but I need  
>> to "see the page as the current user" so I know if they have  
>> permisisons. I thought, if I used www::mech or similar while  
>> "logged in as" the particular user doing the search, I will know  
>> if they can see the page or not... and if so, return it as a  
>> search result.
>>
>> Feasible?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
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From chris.mcavoy at gmail.com  Wed Apr  5 09:37:16 2006
From: chris.mcavoy at gmail.com (Chris McAvoy)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 11:37:16 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] www::mech, simple search engine idea?
In-Reply-To: <2BB104DC-7F02-4449-8B8E-8BC44BBC0324@multiply.org>
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Message-ID: <3096c19d0604050937v35dc20edk133fb79c2ff2dbe5@mail.gmail.com>

It's someone's special Perl Birthday today!

Hurray!

On 4/5/06, jason gessner <jason at multiply.org> wrote:
> wow.  someone needs more coffee before operating heavy email machinery....
>
> -jason
>
>
> On Apr 5, 2006, at 10:49 AM, jason gessner wrote:
> thanks!
>
> :)
>
> -jason
>
>
> On Apr 5, 2006, at 9:19 AM, Stowe, Nola wrote:
>
> Hey, you know of anything similar to www mech written in php? .. although I
> may get the blessing to go ahead and use perl for this.. I could perhaps
> give them the "use the best tool for the job" speech. So that not the real
> point of this (please no php flame wars).
>
> I had this idea this morning... it may be incredibly stupid..  wonder what
> you guys think..
>
> A simple site search engine..  doesn't need to be incredibly complex (i.e.,
> no OR NOT etc needed). problem is we have a somewhat archaic permissions
> system on our pages (at least IMHO, I'd rather store them in a database)...
> I cangrep pages for keywords and figure out what pages could might match,
> but I need to "see the page as the current user" so I know if they have
> permisisons. I thought, if I used www::mech or similar while "logged in as"
> the particular user doing the search, I will know if they can see the page
> or not... and if so, return it as a search result.
>
> Feasible?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
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>
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From jason at multiply.org  Wed Apr  5 12:05:43 2006
From: jason at multiply.org (jason gessner)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:05:43 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] www::mech, simple search engine idea?
In-Reply-To: <3096c19d0604050937v35dc20edk133fb79c2ff2dbe5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A8DB527335656742B82AA4CB101C96FD024579BA@mail.windows.thettgroup.com>
	<F5C854F5-8B6E-4A88-A62F-A5007D96E030@multiply.org>
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Hurray indeed!  ;)

And that someone should really spend part of his birthday working on  
his yapc proposals.  :)

-jason

On Apr 5, 2006, at 11:37 AM, Chris McAvoy wrote:

> It's someone's special Perl Birthday today!
>
> Hurray!
>
> On 4/5/06, jason gessner <jason at multiply.org> wrote:
>> wow.  someone needs more coffee before operating heavy email  
>> machinery....
>>
>> -jason
>>
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2006, at 10:49 AM, jason gessner wrote:
>> thanks!
>>
>> :)
>>
>> -jason
>>
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2006, at 9:19 AM, Stowe, Nola wrote:
>>
>> Hey, you know of anything similar to www mech written in php? ..  
>> although I
>> may get the blessing to go ahead and use perl for this.. I could  
>> perhaps
>> give them the "use the best tool for the job" speech. So that not  
>> the real
>> point of this (please no php flame wars).
>>
>> I had this idea this morning... it may be incredibly stupid..   
>> wonder what
>> you guys think..
>>
>> A simple site search engine..  doesn't need to be incredibly  
>> complex (i.e.,
>> no OR NOT etc needed). problem is we have a somewhat archaic  
>> permissions
>> system on our pages (at least IMHO, I'd rather store them in a  
>> database)...
>> I cangrep pages for keywords and figure out what pages could might  
>> match,
>> but I need to "see the page as the current user" so I know if they  
>> have
>> permisisons. I thought, if I used www::mech or similar while  
>> "logged in as"
>> the particular user doing the search, I will know if they can see  
>> the page
>> or not... and if so, return it as a search result.
>>
>> Feasible?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
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From tigerpeng2001 at yahoo.com  Mon Apr 10 07:22:44 2006
From: tigerpeng2001 at yahoo.com (tiger peng)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 07:22:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Chicago-talk] DW/BI user group
Message-ID: <20060410142244.37815.qmail@web54701.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello,

Is there anyone knows that if there is any user groups
of DW(data warehouse) and BI (business intelligence)
in Chicago and how to join these groups?

Ge

From NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com  Fri Apr 14 07:12:52 2006
From: NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com (Stowe, Nola)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 09:12:52 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perlmongers Lunch downtown on Tuesday April 17?
Message-ID: <A8DB527335656742B82AA4CB101C96FD025042E0@mail.windows.thettgroup.com>

I talked to a few people who are near downtown about getting together for
lunch sometime. How about Tuesday, April 17th? If a lot of people can't do
the 17th, we can do another day. 

Unless someone has another suggestion, lets do 2 N LaSalle at Caf? Baci. It
has sandwiches, pasta, pizza among other things. Very good.

Since it gets a little crowded there around noon, I'd say lets shoot for
meeting at 11:30 unless most people can't get away till Noon.
 


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From shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com  Fri Apr 14 07:28:06 2006
From: shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com (Shawn Carroll)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 09:28:06 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perlmongers Lunch downtown on Tuesday April 17?
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How about Monday, April 16th?  Elephant and Castle?

On 4/14/06, Stowe, Nola <NStowe at thorntontomasetti.com> wrote:
> I talked to a few people who are near downtown about getting together for
> lunch sometime. How about Tuesday, April 17th? If a lot of people can't do
> the 17th, we can do another day.
>
> Unless someone has another suggestion, lets do 2 N LaSalle at Caf? Baci. It
> has sandwiches, pasta, pizza among other things. Very good.
>
> Since it gets a little crowded there around noon, I'd say lets shoot for
> meeting at 11:30 unless most people can't get away till Noon.
>
>
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From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Fri Apr 14 07:51:45 2006
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:51:45 -0400
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perlmongers Lunch downtown on Tuesday April 17?
In-Reply-To: <c114984c0604140728l3f71f134if70d995b6b30b3ed@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A8DB527335656742B82AA4CB101C96FD025042E0@mail.windows.thettgroup.com>
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> How about Monday, April 16th?  Elephant and Castle?

My vote is for Tuesday, just because of scheduling conflicts on
Monday.  As far as the place, no preference.

From brian.d.foy at gmail.com  Fri Apr 14 08:20:51 2006
From: brian.d.foy at gmail.com (brian d foy)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:20:51 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perlmongers Lunch downtown on Tuesday April 17?
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On 4/14/06, Joshua McAdams <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com> wrote:
> > How about Monday, April 16th?  Elephant and Castle?
>
> My vote is for Tuesday, just because of scheduling conflicts on
> Monday.  As far as the place, no preference.

Tuesday works for me. I'm busy on the other days.

--
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From Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov  Fri Apr 14 08:50:00 2006
From: Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov (Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:50:00 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perlmongers Lunch downtown on Tuesday April 17?
In-Reply-To: <2715accf0604140820o4f26256bn7eba089a742df057@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OF489FDAEF.CD08E869-ON86257150.0056F777-86257150.0056EB31@uscmail.uscourts.gov>

Why not both?

a

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standing with a hammer continually reminding him with a tap that there are 

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From NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com  Fri Apr 14 10:25:44 2006
From: NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com (Stowe, Nola)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 12:25:44 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perlmongers Lunch downtown on Tuesday April 17	?
Message-ID: <A8DB527335656742B82AA4CB101C96FD0250441C@mail.windows.thettgroup.com>

You can go to both :) 

Tuesday works out better for me. 

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Perlmongers Lunch downtown on Tuesday April 17?

Why not both?

a

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From lembark at wrkhors.com  Fri Apr 14 11:58:39 2006
From: lembark at wrkhors.com (Steven Lembark)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:58:39 -0400
Subject: [Chicago-talk] [Fwd: PAUSE indexer report
	LEMBARK/Sub-Autostub-1.00.tar.gz]
Message-ID: <443FF0DF.6030200@wrkhors.com>


This can also make testing return values simpler via 
$Sub::Autostub::return_values->( subname => value, ... ).

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Please contact modules at perl.org if there are any open questions.
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          *.pm files: 1
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Status of this distro: OK
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From amead at alanmead.org  Fri Apr 14 14:36:32 2006
From: amead at alanmead.org (Alan Mead)
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:36:32 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] CLI client for DBM/Berkeley DB databases
Message-ID: <444015E0.4070609@alanmead.org>

Hi all,

I'm using Geo::Coder::US...  This module uses Berkeley DB to store
geographic data. I have a db-utils package of tools to dump, verify,
etc. but I'm really missing a command line interface to examine, insert,
update, delete, etc. rows of data (like the mysql or sqlite3
command-line clients).  I once thought I could just whip up a Perl
script for this... but while I have used SQLite and MySQL a lot, I'm
brand new to DBM and so far the learning curve seems sharp.  Here's what
I get when I try the code based on example 14-1 from the Perl cookbook...

[amead at ugly tiger]$ ./db4.pl small_tiger.db
Cannot open "small_tiger.db":
[amead at ugly tiger]$ ls -l small_tiger.db
-rw-rw-r--  1 amead amead 52412416 Apr 14 16:20 small_tiger.db
[amead at ugly tiger]$ ls -dl ../tiger
drwxr-xr-x  7 amead amead 4096 Apr 14 16:20 ../tiger/
[amead at ugly tiger]$ cat db4.pl
#!/usr/bin/perl

use DB_File;
use strict;
use warnings;

my $db = shift or die "usage: $0 filename\n\nPlease supply a DBM
filename\n";
my %db;
tie(%db,'DB_File',$db) or die  "Cannot open \"$db\": $!\n";
my $num_records = scalar keys %db;
print "Found $num_records records\n";
untie %db;

Notice that there's no error message, it just doesn't work.  This file
works fine in conjunction with the Geo::Coder::US package, so doubt that
the DBM file is corrupt.  I've tried other code (I think I found it
online) that uses AnyFile... nothing I've tried even opens the DBM file:

[amead at ugly tiger]$ ./db2.pl small_tiger.db
Can't locate object method "TIEHASH" via package "AnyDBM_File" at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/DBM/Any.pm line 76.
[amead at ugly tiger]$ cat db2.pl
#!/usr/bin/perl

BEGIN {
  @AnyDBM_File::ISA = qw(DB_File GDBM_File SDBM_File);
}
use DBM::Any;
use strict;
use warnings;

my $filename = shift or die "usage: $0 filename\n\nPlease supply a DBM
filename\n";
my $flags = 'O_RDWR';
my $db = new DBM::Any($filename, $flags, 0640) or die "Cannot open
\"$filename\": $!\n";
my $num_records = scalar $db->keys();
print "Found $num_records records\n";

my $key = ($db->keys())[0];
my $value = $db->get($key);

print "sample record:\nkey = $key\nvalue = $value\n\n";

$db->close();


Any help is much appreciated!

-Alan

From andy at petdance.com  Mon Apr 17 14:07:17 2006
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:07:17 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lunch tomorrow
Message-ID: <637CB0D5-108F-45C1-BE89-C79E54CCB490@petdance.com>

So what is the final plan for lunch tomorrow?  Who's going?  And where?

--
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From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Mon Apr 17 14:10:01 2006
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 17:10:01 -0400
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lunch tomorrow
In-Reply-To: <637CB0D5-108F-45C1-BE89-C79E54CCB490@petdance.com>
References: <637CB0D5-108F-45C1-BE89-C79E54CCB490@petdance.com>
Message-ID: <49d805d70604171410t515b03a9mfc400da386f5473@mail.gmail.com>

> So what is the final plan for lunch tomorrow?  Who's going?  And where?

I'm in.  Just say where.

From andy at petdance.com  Mon Apr 17 14:13:35 2006
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:13:35 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lunch tomorrow
In-Reply-To: <49d805d70604171410t515b03a9mfc400da386f5473@mail.gmail.com>
References: <637CB0D5-108F-45C1-BE89-C79E54CCB490@petdance.com>
	<49d805d70604171410t515b03a9mfc400da386f5473@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <342AE433-E9D3-4F94-ABFA-8091064482AE@petdance.com>


On Apr 17, 2006, at 4:10 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote:

>> So what is the final plan for lunch tomorrow?  Who's going?  And  
>> where?
>
> I'm in.  Just say where.

See, that's what frightens me, is that it hasn't been nailed down yet.

--
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From chris.mcavoy at gmail.com  Mon Apr 17 14:14:52 2006
From: chris.mcavoy at gmail.com (Chris McAvoy)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:14:52 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lunch tomorrow
In-Reply-To: <342AE433-E9D3-4F94-ABFA-8091064482AE@petdance.com>
References: <637CB0D5-108F-45C1-BE89-C79E54CCB490@petdance.com>
	<49d805d70604171410t515b03a9mfc400da386f5473@mail.gmail.com>
	<342AE433-E9D3-4F94-ABFA-8091064482AE@petdance.com>
Message-ID: <3096c19d0604171414i232332ne92826c87f4aeea@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/17/06, Andy Lester <andy at petdance.com> wrote:
>
> On Apr 17, 2006, at 4:10 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote:
>
> >> So what is the final plan for lunch tomorrow?  Who's going?  And
> >> where?
> >
> > I'm in.  Just say where.
>
> See, that's what frightens me, is that it hasn't been nailed down yet.

Let it FREE you.

Chris

From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Mon Apr 17 14:17:18 2006
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 17:17:18 -0400
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lunch tomorrow
In-Reply-To: <3096c19d0604171414i232332ne92826c87f4aeea@mail.gmail.com>
References: <637CB0D5-108F-45C1-BE89-C79E54CCB490@petdance.com>
	<49d805d70604171410t515b03a9mfc400da386f5473@mail.gmail.com>
	<342AE433-E9D3-4F94-ABFA-8091064482AE@petdance.com>
	<3096c19d0604171414i232332ne92826c87f4aeea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49d805d70604171417r7bfdabe8u9b619ed633b4b3e1@mail.gmail.com>

> > See, that's what frightens me, is that it hasn't been nailed down yet.
>
> Let it FREE you.

Let's go with 2 N LaSalle at Caf? Baci at 11:30.  That was where the
conversation started... sounds good to me.

From NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com  Mon Apr 17 14:28:14 2006
From: NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com (Stowe, Nola)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:28:14 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lunch tomorrow
Message-ID: <A8DB527335656742B82AA4CB101C96FD0C9683@mail.windows.thettgroup.com>

Sure... lets go with this plan.


Let's go with 2 N LaSalle at Caf? Baci at 11:30.  That was where the
conversation started... sounds good to me.
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From andy at petdance.com  Tue Apr 18 07:48:58 2006
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:48:58 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lunch today: I won't make it.
Message-ID: <AD2F6C2E-052D-428A-A8E1-37F47D2DEE0F@petdance.com>

Some other lunch, guys.  Not today.

Have fun!

xoa

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From don at drakeconsult.com  Tue Apr 18 13:28:16 2006
From: don at drakeconsult.com (Don Drake)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 15:28:16 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] MailLaunder Press Release
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From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Tue Apr 18 22:07:51 2006
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 00:07:51 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Still looking for YAPC sponsors
Message-ID: <49d805d70604182207u19f0160ei5a5e5c29f39f801@mail.gmail.com>

We've had a great response from sponsors so far, but want to do
another quick poll of Chicago.pm to see if anyone knows of a potential
sponsor that we might have missed or if you or your company might want
to sponsor YAPC this year.  We are open to all types of sponsorship
including the obvious cash donations, but also the not-so-obvious
donations in the form of auction items or even the use of some of your
company's folding tables or A/V equipment for the few days of the
conference.  Everything that we can get donated or loaned helps bring
the conference costs down so that we can invest in making YAPC even
better.

If you are interested, feel free to contact me off list at
joshua.mcadams at gmail.com.

Also, it is getting close to time to start rounding up the troops and
organizing the volunteers that will help operate the conference.  If
you are interested in helping out, feel free to send me a note.

Thanks,
Josh McAdams

From wlindsey at blackhatlounge.net  Wed Apr 19 06:53:06 2006
From: wlindsey at blackhatlounge.net (Warren Lindsey)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:53:06 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perlmongers Lunch downtown on Tuesday April 17?
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Found out yesterday that the Cafe Baci on Wacker drive in the Nuveen 
building is very nice as well.  It was a small meeting, only two of us 
:-)  Ooops!  This Baci is not as big as the one on LaSalle.

Stowe, Nola wrote:
> I talked to a few people who are near downtown about getting together for
> lunch sometime. How about Tuesday, April 17th? If a lot of people can't do
> the 17th, we can do another day. 
> 
> Unless someone has another suggestion, lets do 2 N LaSalle at Caf? Baci. It
> has sandwiches, pasta, pizza among other things. Very good.
> 
> Since it gets a little crowded there around noon, I'd say lets shoot for
> meeting at 11:30 unless most people can't get away till Noon.
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From NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com  Wed Apr 19 06:56:19 2006
From: NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com (Stowe, Nola)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:56:19 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perlmongers Lunch downtown on Tuesday April 17	?
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Ooops!

We had 10 people show up on LaSalle :)  

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 8:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Perlmongers Lunch downtown on Tuesday April 17?

Found out yesterday that the Cafe Baci on Wacker drive in the Nuveen
building is very nice as well.  It was a small meeting, only two of us
:-)  Ooops!  This Baci is not as big as the one on LaSalle.

Stowe, Nola wrote:
> I talked to a few people who are near downtown about getting together 
> for lunch sometime. How about Tuesday, April 17th? If a lot of people 
> can't do the 17th, we can do another day.
> 
> Unless someone has another suggestion, lets do 2 N LaSalle at Caf? 
> Baci. It has sandwiches, pasta, pizza among other things. Very good.
> 
> Since it gets a little crowded there around noon, I'd say lets shoot 
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From bdoty at efs-us.com  Wed Apr 19 08:24:05 2006
From: bdoty at efs-us.com (Brad Doty)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:24:05 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lunch Yesterday
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Did you guys have lunch yesterday?  I missed it.

Brad Doty

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Today's Topics:

   1. Lunch tomorrow (Andy Lester)
   2. Re: Lunch tomorrow (Joshua McAdams)
   3. Re: Lunch tomorrow (Andy Lester)
   4. Re: Lunch tomorrow (Chris McAvoy)
   5. Re: Lunch tomorrow (Joshua McAdams)
   6. Re: Lunch tomorrow (Stowe, Nola)
   7. Lunch today: I won't make it. (Andy Lester)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:07:17 -0500
From: Andy Lester <andy at petdance.com>
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lunch tomorrow
To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
Message-ID: <637CB0D5-108F-45C1-BE89-C79E54CCB490 at petdance.com>
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So what is the final plan for lunch tomorrow?  Who's going?  And where?

--
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance





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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 17:10:01 -0400
From: "Joshua McAdams" <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Lunch tomorrow
To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
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> So what is the final plan for lunch tomorrow?  Who's going?  And
where?

I'm in.  Just say where.


------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:13:35 -0500
From: Andy Lester <andy at petdance.com>
Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Lunch tomorrow
To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
Message-ID: <342AE433-E9D3-4F94-ABFA-8091064482AE at petdance.com>
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On Apr 17, 2006, at 4:10 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote:

>> So what is the final plan for lunch tomorrow?  Who's going?  And  
>> where?
>
> I'm in.  Just say where.

See, that's what frightens me, is that it hasn't been nailed down yet.

--
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:14:52 -0500
From: "Chris McAvoy" <chris.mcavoy at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Lunch tomorrow
To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
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On 4/17/06, Andy Lester <andy at petdance.com> wrote:
>
> On Apr 17, 2006, at 4:10 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote:
>
> >> So what is the final plan for lunch tomorrow?  Who's going?  And
> >> where?
> >
> > I'm in.  Just say where.
>
> See, that's what frightens me, is that it hasn't been nailed down yet.

Let it FREE you.

Chris


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 17:17:18 -0400
From: "Joshua McAdams" <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Lunch tomorrow
To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
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> > See, that's what frightens me, is that it hasn't been nailed down
yet.
>
> Let it FREE you.

Let's go with 2 N LaSalle at Caf? Baci at 11:30.  That was where the
conversation started... sounds good to me.


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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:28:14 -0500
From: "Stowe, Nola" <NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com>
Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Lunch tomorrow
To: 'Joshua McAdams ' <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com>,	"'Chicago.pm
chatter
	'" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
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Sure... lets go with this plan.


Let's go with 2 N LaSalle at Caf? Baci at 11:30.  That was where the
conversation started... sounds good to me.
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:48:58 -0500
From: Andy Lester <andy at petdance.com>
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lunch today: I won't make it.
To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
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Some other lunch, guys.  Not today.

Have fun!

xoa

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From NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com  Wed Apr 19 08:24:11 2006
From: NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com (Stowe, Nola)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:24:11 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lunch Yesterday
Message-ID: <A8DB527335656742B82AA4CB101C96FD0255DD3B@mail.windows.thettgroup.com>

Yes we did.

We'll do it again in May.. You all want to pencil in May 9th? ... I'll ask
again closer to that time and if a lot of people can't make it.. We'll
change it. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Doty [mailto:bdoty at efs-us.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:24 AM
To: chicago-talk at pm.org
Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Lunch Yesterday

Did you guys have lunch yesterday?  I missed it.

Brad Doty

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   3. Re: Lunch tomorrow (Andy Lester)
   4. Re: Lunch tomorrow (Chris McAvoy)
   5. Re: Lunch tomorrow (Joshua McAdams)
   6. Re: Lunch tomorrow (Stowe, Nola)
   7. Lunch today: I won't make it. (Andy Lester)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:07:17 -0500
From: Andy Lester <andy at petdance.com>
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lunch tomorrow
To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
Message-ID: <637CB0D5-108F-45C1-BE89-C79E54CCB490 at petdance.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

So what is the final plan for lunch tomorrow?  Who's going?  And where?

--
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance





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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 17:10:01 -0400
From: "Joshua McAdams" <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Lunch tomorrow
To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
Message-ID:
	<49d805d70604171410t515b03a9mfc400da386f5473 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

> So what is the final plan for lunch tomorrow?  Who's going?  And
where?

I'm in.  Just say where.


------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:13:35 -0500
From: Andy Lester <andy at petdance.com>
Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Lunch tomorrow
To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
Message-ID: <342AE433-E9D3-4F94-ABFA-8091064482AE at petdance.com>
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On Apr 17, 2006, at 4:10 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote:

>> So what is the final plan for lunch tomorrow?  Who's going?  And 
>> where?
>
> I'm in.  Just say where.

See, that's what frightens me, is that it hasn't been nailed down yet.

--
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance





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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:14:52 -0500
From: "Chris McAvoy" <chris.mcavoy at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Lunch tomorrow
To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
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On 4/17/06, Andy Lester <andy at petdance.com> wrote:
>
> On Apr 17, 2006, at 4:10 PM, Joshua McAdams wrote:
>
> >> So what is the final plan for lunch tomorrow?  Who's going?  And 
> >> where?
> >
> > I'm in.  Just say where.
>
> See, that's what frightens me, is that it hasn't been nailed down yet.

Let it FREE you.

Chris


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 17:17:18 -0400
From: "Joshua McAdams" <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Lunch tomorrow
To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
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> > See, that's what frightens me, is that it hasn't been nailed down
yet.
>
> Let it FREE you.

Let's go with 2 N LaSalle at Caf? Baci at 11:30.  That was where the
conversation started... sounds good to me.


------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:28:14 -0500
From: "Stowe, Nola" <NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com>
Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Lunch tomorrow
To: 'Joshua McAdams ' <joshua.mcadams at gmail.com>,	"'Chicago.pm
chatter
	'" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
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Sure... lets go with this plan.


Let's go with 2 N LaSalle at Caf? Baci at 11:30.  That was where the
conversation started... sounds good to me.
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:48:58 -0500
From: Andy Lester <andy at petdance.com>
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lunch today: I won't make it.
To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at pm.org>
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Some other lunch, guys.  Not today.

Have fun!

xoa

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From bdoty at efs-us.com  Wed Apr 19 09:20:21 2006
From: bdoty at efs-us.com (Brad Doty)
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:20:21 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Is this a doable place to go to?
Message-ID: <E0B3D66F3DF3BF4C94492CEF51C875A92991D8@EX.efs-us.com>

Steve Peters:

Just catching up on the Perl mail while I was away and I had an
additional thought for you.  I believe Belmont and Damon is a half-mile
north of the epicenter of the popular, formerly edgy Wicker Park
neighborhood that includes the Double Door.  

As a suburbanite who works downtown and doesn't go out anymore, I'd take
the el to Belmont and then a cab ($5-10 fare) over to Beat Kitchen.
Then if I felt up for a 1-mile walk, I'd hike back to the el.  I think
you'll find Off-Loop stage theaters, bars and eclectic shops along
Belmont.  Things have probably changed a lot in the last 5 years, but
I'm sure you'll have a good time.

The additional thought is this.  If you're staying at IIT, it is (at
least used to be) in a pretty bad part of town that's empty at night.
Maybe that's changed, too, but if it looks iffy to you, I'd take the el
back to the Loop, get off at one of the President streets between
Washington and Jackson and hail a cab down to IIT.  Cabs are plentiful
in the Loop, River North, Gold Coast, Lincoln Park, Wrigleyville, Wicker
Park, and maybe Printer's Row (South Loop which is north of IIT).  I
doubt you can find one around IIT without calling.  Of course there are
buses, but I never quite figured out the bus system myself.

Chicago's a great town, particularly on the north side.  Relax and have
fun!

Brad Doty

-----Original Message-----
Today's Topics:

   1. Is this a doable place to go to? (Steve Peters)
   2. Pre-YAPC hack-a-thon (Andy Bach)
   3. Re: Is this a doable place to go to? (Walter Goulet)
   4. www::mech, simple search engine idea? (Stowe, Nola)
   5. YAPC::NA Poster (Joshua McAdams)
   6. Re: www::mech, simple search engine idea? (jason gessner)
   7. Re: www::mech, simple search engine idea? (Stowe, Nola)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:57:49 -0500
From: Steve Peters <steve at fisharerojo.org>
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Is this a doable place to go to?
To: chicago-talk at pm.org
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Hi all,

Looking at online maps is always tricky when you're not 100% familiar
with the area.  I was looking at Pat McCurdy's online schedule and saw
that he'll be at the Beat Kitchen (2100 W. Belmont, Chicago) in Chicago
on June 26th.  Is anyone familiar with the place/area?  It also sounds
like its accessible via public transportation ("a mile west of the
Belmont (Howard/Dan Ryan) "L" station" according to
http://www.patmccurdy.com/where.htm?Beat+Kitchen).  Is public
transportation a real option?

Steve Peters
steve at fisharerojo.org
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Steve Peters wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>Looking at online maps is always tricky when you're not 100% familiar
>with the area.  I was looking at Pat McCurdy's online schedule and saw
>that he'll be at the Beat Kitchen (2100 W. Belmont, Chicago) in Chicago
>on June 26th.  Is anyone familiar with the place/area?  It also sounds
>like its accessible via public transportation ("a mile west of the
>Belmont (Howard/Dan Ryan) "L" station" according to
>http://www.patmccurdy.com/where.htm?Beat+Kitchen).  Is public
>transportation a real option?
>
>Steve Peters
>steve at fisharerojo.org
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Hi,

As a Chicago resident on the north side, I'd say that public 
transportation will be fine. From IIT, you can get to the red line (you 
have to cross the Dan Ryan expressway so it's a bit of a hike from the 
MTCC). There's a Belmont bus that runs pretty late if memory serves that

can get you over to Belmont and Damon (which is 2000 w. Belmont). The 
area's pretty safe; I've been to Beat Kitchen once but it was a very 
long time ago.

Oh, and the maps on the CTA's website are very helpful; there's a trip 
planner than can help you calculate times etc.
http://www.transitchicago.com/

HTH
walter


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From jason at multiply.org  Thu Apr 20 04:37:45 2006
From: jason at multiply.org (Jason Gessner)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 06:37:45 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] A/V Squad For YAPC
Message-ID: <5A58CE4C-F138-4D0A-8C7C-5066517C8ADA@multiply.org>

Hi All!

We need to figure out who is willing to help record the conference.   
We want to do video, presentation and audio recordings.

Josh mentioned something to me about already having some help for  
getting the presentations overlaid on the video.   I have a nice  
canon video camera that i can use, but we will have 3 tracks going at  
once.  Josh has a pretty great setup for recording audio, but we  
still need to get some wireless mics.  Anyone else out there with  
nice or decent video or audio gear that wants to join our crack a/v  
squad?

Josh and I both worked on the A/V for the Snakes + Rubies event and  
aside from DHH turning the lights off it turned out really well.  I  
think that if we gather a few more resources, we can produce the most  
impressive YAPC presentation DVD/MOV/MP3 set seen to date.  :)

-jason gessner
     jason at multiply.org

From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Thu Apr 27 21:37:38 2006
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 23:37:38 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Fwd: Stallman lecture Room -- in room **302** SCE
	(CCC)
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I'm not sure if I've seen this message pass by the Chicago.pm list or
not, but it looks like Richard Stallman will be at UIC this Friday at
11 am.  I don't think that I'll make it, but if someone from
Chicago.pm does, be sure to mention YAPC to a couple of folks ;)

>  >> *The University of Illinois at Chicago
>  >> Department of Computer Science
>  >>
>  >> **2005-2006 Distinguished Lecturer Series
>  >> *
>  >> *Title: The Free Software Movement and the GNU/Linux Operating System
>  >>
>  >> Richard M. Stallman
>  >> GNU Project and Free Software Foundation
>  >> *
>  >> *
>  >> *
>  >> *Friday, April 28, 2006
>  >> 11:00 a.m.*
>  >> * _302 Student Center East (a.k.a. CCC)
>  >> _
>  >> ** Abstract:
>  >>
>  >> Richard Stallman will speak about the purpose, goals, philosophy,
>  >> methods, status, and future prospects of the GNU operating system,
>  >> GNU is a recursive acronym for ``GNU's Not Unix''. GNU is free
>  >> software <http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html>:  everyone is
>  >> free to copy it and redistribute it, as well as to make changes
>  >> either large or small.  Today, Linux-based variants of the GNU
>  >> system, based on the kernel Linux developed by Linus Torvalds, are in
>  >> widespread use. There are estimated to be some 20 million users of
>  >> GNU/Linux systems <http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html> today.
>  >> *
>  >>  *Bio:
>  >> * Richard Stallman is the founder of the GNU Project
>  >> <http://www.gnu.org/gnu/thegnuproject.html>, launched in 1984 to
>  >> develop the free software operating system GNU
>  >> <http://www.gnu.org/gnu/>.  Richard Stallman is the principal author
>  >> of the GNU Compiler Collection
>  >> <http://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/gcc.html>, a portable optimizing
>  >> compiler which was designed to support diverse architectures and
>  >> multiple languages. The compiler now supports over 30 different
>  >> architectures and 7 programming languages. Stallman also wrote the
>  >> GNU symbolic debugger (gdb)
>  >> <http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/gdb.html>, GNU Emacs
>  >> <http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs.html>, and various other
>  >> programs for the GNU operating system.
>  >>
>  >> Stallman graduated from Harvard in 1974 with a BA in physics. During
>  >> his college years, he also worked as a staff hacker at the MIT
>  >> Artificial Intelligence Lab, learning operating system development by
>  >> doing it. He wrote the first extensible Emacs text editor there in
>  >> 1975. He also developed the AI technique of dependency-directed
>  >> backtracking, also known as truth maintenance. In January 1984 he
>  >> resigned from MIT to start the GNU project.
>  >> Stallman received the Grace Hopper award for 1991 from the
>  >> Association for Computing Machinery, for his development of the first
>  >> Emacs editor. In 1990 he was awarded a Macarthur foundation
>  >> fellowship, and in 1996 an honorary doctorate from the Royal
>  >> Institute of Technology in Sweden. In 1998 he received the Electronic
>  >> Frontier Foundation's pioneer award along with Linus Torvalds. In
>  >> 1999 he received the Yuri Rubinski award. In 2001 he received a
>  >> second honorary doctorate, from the University of Glasgow, and shared
>  >> the Takeda award for social/economic betterment with Torvalds and Ken
>  >> Sakamura. In 2002 he was elected to the US National Academy of
>  >> Engineering, and in 2003 to the American Academy of Arts and
>  >> Sciences. In 2003 he was named an honorary professor of the
>  >> Universidad Nacional de Ingenieria in Peru, and received an honorary
>  >> doctorate from the Free University of Brussels. In 2004 he received
>  >> an honorary doctorate from the Universidad Nacional de Salta, in
>  >> Argentina.
>  >
>  >
>  >> * Note:
>  >> Richard Stallman's lecture on the Free Software Movement is scheduled
>  >> to last one and half hours with questions following, somewhat longer
>  >> than the usual CS Distinguished Lecture. This is a unique opportunity
>  >> to learn the history behind a significant philosophical movement in
>  >> modern computer systems. Please arrange your schedule so you can
>  >> participate fully in this event.
>  >>
>  >> *Host:  Professor Venkat Venkatakrishnan
>  >
>

From NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com  Fri Apr 28 08:43:41 2006
From: NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com (Stowe, Nola)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:43:41 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perlmongers Lunch downtown on Tuesday, May 2nd
Message-ID: <A8DB527335656742B82AA4CB101C96FD025B3946@mail.windows.thettgroup.com>

 
Lets try this again!

2 N LaSalle at Caf? Baci. 
It has sandwiches, pasta, pizza among other things. Very good.
 
Since it gets a little crowded there around noon, I'd say lets shoot 
for meeting at 11:30 unless most people can't get away till Noon.

If not many can make it, we can try another day. 

We try for the East corner tables, bunch of geeks shouldn't be too hard to
recognized.


Nola J. Stowe
Systems Programmer
Thornton Tomasetti
14 E. Jackson Boulevard, Suite 1100
Chicago, IL  60604
T 312.596.2000  F 312.596.2001  
D 312.596.2248  
NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com


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From kent at c2group.net  Fri Apr 28 09:03:02 2006
From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:03:02 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perlmongers Lunch downtown on Tuesday, May 2nd
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(This is a slightly different email address from which I subscribed)

Nola:

Do you mean today?

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Stowe, Nola wrote:

>
> Lets try this again!
>
> 2 N LaSalle at Caf? Baci.
> It has sandwiches, pasta, pizza among other things. Very good.
>
> Since it gets a little crowded there around noon, I'd say lets shoot
> for meeting at 11:30 unless most people can't get away till Noon.
>
> If not many can make it, we can try another day.
>
> We try for the East corner tables, bunch of geeks shouldn't be too hard to
> recognized.
>
>
> Nola J. Stowe
> Systems Programmer
> Thornton Tomasetti
> 14 E. Jackson Boulevard, Suite 1100
> Chicago, IL  60604
> T 312.596.2000  F 312.596.2001
> D 312.596.2248
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From NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com  Fri Apr 28 09:02:11 2006
From: NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com (Stowe, Nola)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:02:11 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perlmongers Lunch downtown on Tuesday, May 2nd
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No... I mean the date in the subject :) 

Which is May 2nd.

Sorry I didn't put in body of email 


Nola J. Stowe
Systems Programmer
Thornton Tomasetti
14 E. Jackson Boulevard, Suite 1100
Chicago, IL  60604
T 312.596.2000  F 312.596.2001  
D 312.596.2248  
NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com



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Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Perlmongers Lunch downtown on Tuesday, May 2nd

(This is a slightly different email address from which I subscribed)

Nola:

Do you mean today?

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Stowe, Nola wrote:

>
> Lets try this again!
>
> 2 N LaSalle at Caf? Baci.
> It has sandwiches, pasta, pizza among other things. Very good.
>
> Since it gets a little crowded there around noon, I'd say lets shoot 
> for meeting at 11:30 unless most people can't get away till Noon.
>
> If not many can make it, we can try another day.
>
> We try for the East corner tables, bunch of geeks shouldn't be too 
> hard to recognized.
>
>
> Nola J. Stowe
> Systems Programmer
> Thornton Tomasetti
> 14 E. Jackson Boulevard, Suite 1100
> Chicago, IL  60604
> T 312.596.2000  F 312.596.2001
> D 312.596.2248
> NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com
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From kent at c2group.net  Fri Apr 28 09:16:42 2006
From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:16:42 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perlmongers Lunch downtown on Tuesday, May 2nd
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Whoops.  Serves me right for resorting to pine as my mailreader, I start
to gloss over silly things like the subject :)

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Stowe, Nola wrote:

> No... I mean the date in the subject :)
>
> Which is May 2nd.
>
> Sorry I didn't put in body of email
>
>
> Nola J. Stowe
> Systems Programmer
> Thornton Tomasetti
> 14 E. Jackson Boulevard, Suite 1100
> Chicago, IL  60604
> T 312.596.2000  F 312.596.2001
> D 312.596.2248
> NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kent Cowgill [mailto:kent at c2group.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:03 AM
> To: Chicago.pm chatter
> Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Perlmongers Lunch downtown on Tuesday, May 2nd
>
> (This is a slightly different email address from which I subscribed)
>
> Nola:
>
> Do you mean today?
>
> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Stowe, Nola wrote:
>
> >
> > Lets try this again!
> >
> > 2 N LaSalle at Caf? Baci.
> > It has sandwiches, pasta, pizza among other things. Very good.
> >
> > Since it gets a little crowded there around noon, I'd say lets shoot
> > for meeting at 11:30 unless most people can't get away till Noon.
> >
> > If not many can make it, we can try another day.
> >
> > We try for the East corner tables, bunch of geeks shouldn't be too
> > hard to recognized.
> >
> >
> > Nola J. Stowe
> > Systems Programmer
> > Thornton Tomasetti
> > 14 E. Jackson Boulevard, Suite 1100
> > Chicago, IL  60604
> > T 312.596.2000  F 312.596.2001
> > D 312.596.2248
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From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Fri Apr 28 11:51:53 2006
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:51:53 -0400
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perlmongers Lunch downtown on Tuesday, May 2nd
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> Lets try this again!
>
> 2 N LaSalle at Caf? Baci.
> It has sandwiches, pasta, pizza among other things. Very good.
>
> Since it gets a little crowded there around noon, I'd say lets shoot
> for meeting at 11:30 unless most people can't get away till Noon.

It's on my calendar.

From bdoty at efs-us.com  Fri Apr 28 13:32:35 2006
From: bdoty at efs-us.com (Brad Doty)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:32:35 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lunch Tuesday, May 2 at 11:30
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Caf? Baci 2 N. LaSalle, east corner?

I'll make it.  Thanks for the clear parameters.  ;- ]

Brad Doty
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Lets try this again!

2 N LaSalle at Cafe Baci. 
It has sandwiches, pasta, pizza among other things. Very good.
 
Since it gets a little crowded there around noon, I'd say lets shoot 
for meeting at 11:30 unless most people can't get away till Noon.

If not many can make it, we can try another day. 

We try for the East corner tables, bunch of geeks shouldn't be too hard to
recognized.


Nola J. Stowe
Systems Programmer
Thornton Tomasetti
14 E. Jackson Boulevard, Suite 1100
Chicago, IL  60604
T 312.596.2000  F 312.596.2001  
D 312.596.2248  
NStowe at ThorntonTomasetti.com



From kent at c2group.net  Fri Apr 28 14:40:20 2006
From: kent at c2group.net (Kent Cowgill)
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:40:20 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Lunch Tuesday, May 2 at 11:30
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If it helps anyone decide, they have a lovely menu online:

http://www.cafebaci.com/

-Kent

On Fri, 28 Apr 2006, Brad Doty wrote:

> Caf? Baci 2 N. LaSalle, east corner?
>