From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Thu Sep  1 13:37:25 2005
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 15:37:25 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Job Search
Message-ID: <49d805d70509011337298269e1@mail.gmail.com>

The company that I currently work for is on the hunt for developers to
work in their Downers Grove office.  The exact position that you would
get would depend on your overall skill set, but Perl is definitely
used on a lot of our accounts.  If you are looking for a new place to
work and might be interested, shoot me an email and I'll fill in the
blanks.

Thanks,
Josh

From lembark at wrkhors.com  Mon Sep  5 07:24:05 2005
From: lembark at wrkhors.com (Steven Lembark)
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 10:24:05 -0400
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Worth a look if anyone is interested in financial
	work.
Message-ID: <E2E768E1848FF4B4E3EFE12B@[192.168.1.2]>


<http://jobs.perl.org/job/3022>

-- 
Steven Lembark                                       85-09 90th Street
Workhorse Computing                                Woodhaven, NY 11421
lembark at wrkhors.com                                     1 888 359 3508

From shild at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep  5 09:49:18 2005
From: shild at sbcglobal.net (Scott T. Hildreth)
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:49:18 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Job Search
In-Reply-To: <49d805d70509011337298269e1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49d805d70509011337298269e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1125938958.3261.62.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org>

Josh, 
     Do you work in the Downers office?
     I work at 59 & Ferry road (Naperville), 
     10 mins from Downers Grove.  We could meet
     for lunch one day, if your interested.

                              STH

On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 15:37 -0500, Joshua McAdams wrote:
> The company that I currently work for is on the hunt for developers to
> work in their Downers Grove office.  The exact position that you would
> get would depend on your overall skill set, but Perl is definitely
> used on a lot of our accounts.  If you are looking for a new place to
> work and might be interested, shoot me an email and I'll fill in the
> blanks.
> 
> Thanks,
> Josh
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
-- 
Scott T. Hildreth <shild at sbcglobal.net>

From shild at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep  5 09:57:21 2005
From: shild at sbcglobal.net (Scott T. Hildreth)
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:57:21 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Job Search
In-Reply-To: <1125938958.3261.62.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org>
References: <49d805d70509011337298269e1@mail.gmail.com>
	<1125938958.3261.62.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <1125939441.3261.65.camel@fbsd1.dyndns.org>

Sorry, meant to send that to Josh....
But hey that lunch invitation is open to anyone.  :-)

On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 11:49 -0500, Scott T. Hildreth wrote:
> Josh, 
>      Do you work in the Downers office?
>      I work at 59 & Ferry road (Naperville), 
>      10 mins from Downers Grove.  We could meet
>      for lunch one day, if your interested.
> 
>                               STH
> 
> On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 15:37 -0500, Joshua McAdams wrote:
> > The company that I currently work for is on the hunt for developers to
> > work in their Downers Grove office.  The exact position that you would
> > get would depend on your overall skill set, but Perl is definitely
> > used on a lot of our accounts.  If you are looking for a new place to
> > work and might be interested, shoot me an email and I'll fill in the
> > blanks.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Josh
> > _______________________________________________
> > Chicago-talk mailing list
> > Chicago-talk at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
-- 
Scott T. Hildreth <shild at sbcglobal.net>

From zrusilla at mac.com  Mon Sep  5 10:47:21 2005
From: zrusilla at mac.com (zrusilla@mac.com)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 12:47:21 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Worth a look if anyone is interested in
	financial	work.
In-Reply-To: <E2E768E1848FF4B4E3EFE12B@[192.168.1.2]>
References: <E2E768E1848FF4B4E3EFE12B@[192.168.1.2]>
Message-ID: <be5dac089e7f7362508871a6b8dba259@mac.com>

Since it's Rich Moss recruiting, I'm guessing it's Citadel Financial.

Liz

On Sep 5, 2005, at 9:24 AM, Steven Lembark wrote:

>
> <http://jobs.perl.org/job/3022>
>
> -- 
> Steven Lembark                                       85-09 90th Street
> Workhorse Computing                                Woodhaven, NY 11421
> lembark at wrkhors.com                                     1 888 359 3508
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>
>
Elizabeth Cortell, Web Developer
Illinois Institute of Technology, Institute of Design
350 N. LaSalle, Chicago, IL
cortell at id.iit.edu
312-595-2216


Elizabeth Cortell, Web Developer
Illinois Institute of Technology, Institute of Design
350 N. LaSalle, Chicago, IL
cortell at id.iit.edu
312-595-2216


From jgarvin at gmail.com  Mon Sep  5 11:46:35 2005
From: jgarvin at gmail.com (John Garvin)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 13:46:35 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Worth a look if anyone is interested in
	financial work.
In-Reply-To: <E2E768E1848FF4B4E3EFE12B@192.168.1.2>
References: <E2E768E1848FF4B4E3EFE12B@192.168.1.2>
Message-ID: <94aa8cde0509051146413ee225@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/5/05, Steven Lembark <lembark at wrkhors.com> wrote:
> 
> <http://jobs.perl.org/job/3022>
> 
> --
> Steven Lembark                                       85-09 90th Street
> Workhorse Computing                                Woodhaven, NY 11421
> lembark at wrkhors.com                                     1 888 359 3508
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
> 

They've been posting that position for years. 
Has anyone interviewed there? Are they realistic?

-- 
jpg

From shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com  Mon Sep  5 12:25:53 2005
From: shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com (Shawn Carroll)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 14:25:53 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Worth a look if anyone is interested in
	financial work.
In-Reply-To: <94aa8cde0509051146413ee225@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E2E768E1848FF4B4E3EFE12B@192.168.1.2>
	<94aa8cde0509051146413ee225@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c114984c05090512252fdbf18@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/5/05, John Garvin <jgarvin at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/5/05, Steven Lembark <lembark at wrkhors.com> wrote:
> >
> > <http://jobs.perl.org/job/3022>
> >
> 
> They've been posting that position for years.
> Has anyone interviewed there? Are they realistic?
> 
> --
> jpg

Citadel Investment Group, I work there.  I think we're realistic and a
good place to work.  I'm willing to answer more questions of list.

-- 
shawn.c.carroll at gmail.com
Perl Programmer
Soccer Referee

From Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov  Tue Sep  6 09:26:52 2005
From: Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov (Andy_Bach@wiwb.uscourts.gov)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 11:26:52 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perl Best Practices review
Message-ID: <OFF8195A6C.6C016F59-ON86257074.0055BDAD-86257074.005A04C6@uscmail.uscourts.gov>

Are we still doing these?

[% INCLUDE header.tt
    title = 'reviews'
%] 

[% INCLUDE review.tt

    title = "Perl Best Practices"
    authors = "Damian Conway"
    publisher = "O'Reilly"
    pages = "517 (w/ index)"
    url = "http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlbp/"
    reviewer = "Andy Bach"
    email = "andy_bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov"
    synopsis = "A excellent short, simple guide to the 'best' way to write 
perl - think Strunk&White for JAPHs. To quote D.C. 'to help you move 
beyond the illusion of the sensual programming life, and become 
stylistically enlightened.'"
    toc = "http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlbp/toc.html"
%]

"Standards and Styles for Developing Maintainable Code" is the subtitle 
(okay, supra-title on my copy) though the quote "Always code as if the guy 
[sic] who ends up maintaining your code will be a violent psychopath who 
knows where you live." is also an apt tag for the book.  19 chapters that 
exhaustively cover nearly every aspect of the 'style' of perl programming. 
 

Each chapter (like I/O, Built-in Functions, Regular Expressions) is broken 
down into sections that cover a particular aspect (for I/O, its 
Filehandles, Indirect Filehandles, Localizing Filehandles thru Progress 
Indicators and Autoflushing) of the main. He writes 'bad' code, shows 
where its troubles lie and redoes the sample in 'correct' style (enough w/ 
the scare quotes - good and bad hereonforward are Conway's vs anarchy). 
More than once he hides a different error in the original code to show how 
the better style makes the subtle bug stand out more easily.

You may not *agree* w/ every guideline (I don't ... yet ;-) he makes - for 
instance, w/ cuddled elses, Conway suggests:
if ( this ) {
...
}
else {
  that

is more readable (the else is on the same level as the matching 'if') and 
so worth the wasted line (esp. as: 
if ( this ) {
...
}      # if this
elsif ( that ) {
...
}       # if that
elsif { theother ) {
...
}       # if the other
else {
..
}        # else

lets you nicely comment (compare:
if ( this ) {
...
} elsif ( that ) { # if this
...

too much per/line noise) the blocks.), a suggestion I'm still working on. 
He does say this book is, if nothing else, a starting point for discussion 
about shared programming guidelines, but he does think that nearly all of 
the books guidelines are as good as it gets. 

His focus is on maintainability; writing code that is clear enough in 
layout to help, as much as possible, the next iteration of reader (either 
you, 3 weeks later or another programmer one job change later) to be able 
to determine the point of the code. Call it layout or whitespace usage or 
just style, he makes a strong case that some choices are just much more 
readable and much less confusing than others, whether for a while loop or 
nested triene (the 'pitchfork' ... ? ... : ...) operators. 

He does cover a number of places where unclear standards (like return vs 
return undef vs return 0) can introduce subtle bugs that you don't want to 
try and find.  These sections have the double value of keeping you out of 
trouble and, often, teaching new Perl ideas.  Even if you disagree and 
ignore every one of these guidelines (you won't, or, rather if you do, you 
deserve whatever you get) you'll still improve your coding and Perl 
understanding.

Best of all, this is one of those books you can enjoy reading. Conway is a 
good, clear writer and teacher but he's also very funny.  Okay, perl geek 
funny, but .... From footnotes to variable names, his dry, Australian wit 
(er, that's probably redundant) makes it a very pleasant read.

Great backbeat and though it'll be a little hard to dance to (ending all 
REs w/ '/xms'???), well worth it.  I give it a 10.


[% INCLUDE footer.tt %]

Andy Bach, Sys. Mangler
Internet: andy_bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov 
VOICE: (608) 261-5738  FAX 264-5932

"Documentation is like sex; when it's good, it's very, very good; 
and when its bad, it's better than nothing."  -- Dick Brandon (unknown)

From andy at petdance.com  Tue Sep  6 15:33:43 2005
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 17:33:43 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perl Best Practices review
In-Reply-To: <OFF8195A6C.6C016F59-ON86257074.0055BDAD-86257074.005A04C6@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
References: <OFF8195A6C.6C016F59-ON86257074.0055BDAD-86257074.005A04C6@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
Message-ID: <20050906223343.GA10058@petdance.com>

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 11:26:52AM -0500, Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov (Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov) wrote:
> Are we still doing these?

Published on the site.  Thanks.

-- 
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

From andy at petdance.com  Tue Sep  6 15:33:43 2005
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 17:33:43 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Perl Best Practices review
In-Reply-To: <OFF8195A6C.6C016F59-ON86257074.0055BDAD-86257074.005A04C6@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
References: <OFF8195A6C.6C016F59-ON86257074.0055BDAD-86257074.005A04C6@uscmail.uscourts.gov>
Message-ID: <20050906223343.GA10058@petdance.com>

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 11:26:52AM -0500, Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov (Andy_Bach at wiwb.uscourts.gov) wrote:
> Are we still doing these?

Published on the site.  Thanks.

-- 
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

From lembark at wrkhors.com  Thu Sep  8 06:47:06 2005
From: lembark at wrkhors.com (Steven Lembark)
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 09:47:06 -0400
Subject: [Chicago-talk] CPAN Upload: L/LE/LEMBARK/FindBin-libs-1.07.tar.gz
	(fwd)
Message-ID: <C25E6BBAAB7ADDB52FF95589@[192.168.1.2]>


Fixes a but on RHEL-4.0 ($FindBin::Bin has a trailing '/'),
adds a "deubg" switch to the import that sets $DB::single=1
to avoid people's having to mangle the module code to trace
what it does.

---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: PAUSE <upload at pause.perl.org>
Subject: CPAN Upload: L/LE/LEMBARK/FindBin-libs-1.07.tar.gz

> The uploaded file
>
>     FindBin-libs-1.07.tar.gz
>
> has entered CPAN as
>
>   file: $CPAN/authors/id/L/LE/LEMBARK/FindBin-libs-1.07.tar.gz
>   size: 7581 bytes
>    md5: 8d99de8c91b0e49d8c07fd34f1a71820
>
> No action is required on your part
> Request entered by: LEMBARK (Steven Lembark)
> Request entered on: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 13:32:30 GMT
> Request completed:  Thu, 08 Sep 2005 13:32:46 GMT
>
> Thanks,
> --
> paused, v460

---------- End Forwarded Message ----------



-- 
Steven Lembark                                       85-09 90th Street
Workhorse Computing                                Woodhaven, NY 11421
lembark at wrkhors.com                                     1 888 359 3508

From lembark at wrkhors.com  Thu Sep  8 10:12:09 2005
From: lembark at wrkhors.com (Steven Lembark)
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 13:12:09 -0400
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Worth a look if anyone is interested
 in	financial work.
In-Reply-To: <94aa8cde0509051146413ee225@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E2E768E1848FF4B4E3EFE12B@192.168.1.2>
	<94aa8cde0509051146413ee225@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <89DEE0FC75399CF69DA599E9@[192.168.1.5]>



-- John Garvin <jgarvin at gmail.com>

> On 9/5/05, Steven Lembark <lembark at wrkhors.com> wrote:
>> 
>> <http://jobs.perl.org/job/3022>

> They've been posting that position for years. 
> Has anyone interviewed there? Are they realistic?

They are always looking for more people, hence the 
continued posting.

I've worked there as a contractor twice. The work
is interesting the people I worked was interesting
and my supervisors (Chris, Farooq) were good to work
for.

If you take a permenant job there they'll give you a
better education on financial basics and IT than most
places -- useful skills for your own money manglement
along with getting more work.

enjoi

-- 
Steven Lembark                                       85-09 90th Street
Workhorse Computing                                Woodhaven, NY 11421
lembark at wrkhors.com                                     1 888 359 3508

From ehs at pobox.com  Mon Sep 12 07:40:35 2005
From: ehs at pobox.com (Edward Summers)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:40:35 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] citadel in the tribune
Message-ID: <AC083471-6F98-46A5-A818-68DCE87FC3A9@pobox.com>

Sunday's tribune had an article about the perl shop known as Citadel:

     http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ 
chi-0509110190sep11,1,5965766.story

//Ed

From jperkins at sneer.org  Mon Sep 12 11:39:01 2005
From: jperkins at sneer.org (Jason Perkins)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:39:01 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] citadel in the tribune
In-Reply-To: <AC083471-6F98-46A5-A818-68DCE87FC3A9@pobox.com>
References: <AC083471-6F98-46A5-A818-68DCE87FC3A9@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <983E68AC-F8A9-48FC-B209-20083DC4E58F@sneer.org>


On Sep 12, 2005, at 9:40 AM, Edward Summers wrote:

> Sunday's tribune had an article about the perl shop known as Citadel:

Is this the company posting jobs (or used to post jobs) using perl to  
parse metar data for $120k/yr?

--
Jason Perkins
jperkins at sneer.org

"The computer allows you to make mistakes
faster than any other invention, with the
possible exception of handguns and tequila."












From jperkins at sneer.org  Mon Sep 12 12:25:15 2005
From: jperkins at sneer.org (Jason Perkins)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:25:15 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] citadel in the tribune
In-Reply-To: <983E68AC-F8A9-48FC-B209-20083DC4E58F@sneer.org>
References: <AC083471-6F98-46A5-A818-68DCE87FC3A9@pobox.com>
	<983E68AC-F8A9-48FC-B209-20083DC4E58F@sneer.org>
Message-ID: <5B049888-60E0-4B9B-A29F-BCC0DB98E760@sneer.org>


On Sep 12, 2005, at 1:39 PM, Jason Perkins wrote:

>
> On Sep 12, 2005, at 9:40 AM, Edward Summers wrote:
>
>
>> Sunday's tribune had an article about the perl shop known as Citadel:
>>
>
> Is this the company posting jobs (or used to post jobs) using perl to
> parse metar data for $120k/yr?

Lemme clarify: I'm sure that the people there are doing more than  
parsing metar data. As I recall, the job description was looking for  
highly experienced perl developers and metar parsing was mentioned in  
the job posting. No offense meant.

--
Jason Perkins
jperkins at sneer.org

"The computer allows you to make mistakes
faster than any other invention, with the
possible exception of handguns and tequila."












From ehs at pobox.com  Mon Sep 12 13:16:17 2005
From: ehs at pobox.com (Edward Summers)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:16:17 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] citadel in the tribune
In-Reply-To: <5B049888-60E0-4B9B-A29F-BCC0DB98E760@sneer.org>
References: <AC083471-6F98-46A5-A818-68DCE87FC3A9@pobox.com>
	<983E68AC-F8A9-48FC-B209-20083DC4E58F@sneer.org>
	<5B049888-60E0-4B9B-A29F-BCC0DB98E760@sneer.org>
Message-ID: <E139522E-3497-4A88-A2E7-44EFDA5374D6@pobox.com>


On Sep 12, 2005, at 2:25 PM, Jason Perkins wrote:
> Lemme clarify: I'm sure that the people there are doing more than
> parsing metar data. As I recall, the job description was looking for
> highly experienced perl developers and metar parsing was mentioned in
> the job posting. No offense meant.

Quite possibly. Citadel was the topic of discussion last week since  
they are looking for Perl talent pretty regularly in the Chicago area:

     http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/chicago-talk/2005-September/ 
thread.html

The trib article painted a pretty interesting picture of this  
secretive Chicago powerhouse.

//Ed

From ng at johnwlong.com  Sat Sep 17 14:58:26 2005
From: ng at johnwlong.com (John W. Long)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 16:58:26 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Ruby Presentation Anyone?
Message-ID: <432C9182.4030103@johnwlong.com>

Hello Perl Users,

I'm the organizer of the Chicago Area Ruby group 
(http://ruby.meetup.com/55/). I was wondering if any of you would be 
interested in a presentation on Ruby? I don't know anything about Perl 
so this wouldn't be an us vs. them kind of a talk. I'm really more 
interested in sharing with you the things I love about Ruby. I have 3 
years of experience with Ruby and have been working with Ruby on Rails 
(http://rubyonrails.com) for almost a year now. I'd be willing to talk 
about either.

Let me know...

-- 
John Long
http://wiseheartdesign.com


From jason at multiply.org  Sun Sep 18 09:39:33 2005
From: jason at multiply.org (Jason Gessner)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:39:33 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Ruby Presentation Anyone?
In-Reply-To: <432C9182.4030103@johnwlong.com>
References: <432C9182.4030103@johnwlong.com>
Message-ID: <24B9734D-8D5D-4B29-B88D-EA4623F9C76B@multiply.org>

Hi John.

While I am sure this is an attempt to sway some of us from the One  
True Language, I think this would be an excellent topic when prepared  
with a look at perl's main rails-ish framework, Catalyst.

As it just so happens, I am currently preparing some Mason to  
Catalyst material for my own research.  I think i would be able to  
get this in shape for an october meeting.

What does everyone think?

-jason gessner
     jason at multiply.org

On Sep 17, 2005, at 4:58 PM, John W. Long wrote:

> Hello Perl Users,
>
> I'm the organizer of the Chicago Area Ruby group
> (http://ruby.meetup.com/55/). I was wondering if any of you would be
> interested in a presentation on Ruby? I don't know anything about Perl
> so this wouldn't be an us vs. them kind of a talk. I'm really more
> interested in sharing with you the things I love about Ruby. I have 3
> years of experience with Ruby and have been working with Ruby on Rails
> (http://rubyonrails.com) for almost a year now. I'd be willing to talk
> about either.
>
> Let me know...
>
> -- 
> John Long
> http://wiseheartdesign.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>


From jason at froebe.net  Sun Sep 18 09:52:10 2005
From: jason at froebe.net (Jason L. Froebe)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 09:52:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Ruby Presentation Anyone?
In-Reply-To: <24B9734D-8D5D-4B29-B88D-EA4623F9C76B@multiply.org>
Message-ID: <20050918165210.18398.qmail@web203.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I like the idea and am curious about it.  From what I've read, the Ruby
language is kind of a hybrid of perl and smalltalk.  Beyond that, I
know very little about it.

jason

--- Jason Gessner <jason at multiply.org> wrote:

> Hi John.
> 
> While I am sure this is an attempt to sway some of us from the One  
> True Language, I think this would be an excellent topic when prepared
>  
> with a look at perl's main rails-ish framework, Catalyst.
> 
> As it just so happens, I am currently preparing some Mason to  
> Catalyst material for my own research.  I think i would be able to  
> get this in shape for an october meeting.
> 
> What does everyone think?
> 
> -jason gessner
>      jason at multiply.org
> 
> On Sep 17, 2005, at 4:58 PM, John W. Long wrote:
> 
> > Hello Perl Users,
> >
> > I'm the organizer of the Chicago Area Ruby group
> > (http://ruby.meetup.com/55/). I was wondering if any of you would
> be
> > interested in a presentation on Ruby? I don't know anything about
> Perl
> > so this wouldn't be an us vs. them kind of a talk. I'm really more
> > interested in sharing with you the things I love about Ruby. I have
> 3
> > years of experience with Ruby and have been working with Ruby on
> Rails
> > (http://rubyonrails.com) for almost a year now. I'd be willing to
> talk
> > about either.
> >
> > Let me know...
> >
> > -- 
> > John Long
> > http://wiseheartdesign.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Chicago-talk mailing list
> > Chicago-talk at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From ng at johnwlong.com  Sun Sep 18 13:38:07 2005
From: ng at johnwlong.com (John W. Long)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 15:38:07 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Ruby Presentation Anyone?
In-Reply-To: <24B9734D-8D5D-4B29-B88D-EA4623F9C76B@multiply.org>
References: <432C9182.4030103@johnwlong.com>
	<24B9734D-8D5D-4B29-B88D-EA4623F9C76B@multiply.org>
Message-ID: <432DD02F.5060108@johnwlong.com>

 > While I am sure this is an attempt to sway some of us from the One
 > True Language, I think this would be an excellent topic when prepared
 > with a look at perl's main rails-ish framework, Catalyst.

Wow! You see right through me. :-) While I would love to see some of you 
join us over at our own Ruby group, this is mainly an attempt to 
increase the visibility of what we are doing in our own camp. There 
should be plenty for everyone to learn from each other. If it makes 
things fairer perhaps one from your own ranks would like to return the 
favor and share about Catalyst and Perl at our own meetup. :-)

--
John Long
http://wiseheartdesign.com

Jason Gessner wrote:
> Hi John.
> 
> While I am sure this is an attempt to sway some of us from the One  
> True Language, I think this would be an excellent topic when prepared  
> with a look at perl's main rails-ish framework, Catalyst.
> 
> As it just so happens, I am currently preparing some Mason to  
> Catalyst material for my own research.  I think i would be able to  
> get this in shape for an october meeting.
> 
> What does everyone think?
> 
> -jason gessner
>      jason at multiply.org
> 
> On Sep 17, 2005, at 4:58 PM, John W. Long wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hello Perl Users,
>>
>>I'm the organizer of the Chicago Area Ruby group
>>(http://ruby.meetup.com/55/). I was wondering if any of you would be
>>interested in a presentation on Ruby? I don't know anything about Perl
>>so this wouldn't be an us vs. them kind of a talk. I'm really more
>>interested in sharing with you the things I love about Ruby. I have 3
>>years of experience with Ruby and have been working with Ruby on Rails
>>(http://rubyonrails.com) for almost a year now. I'd be willing to talk
>>about either.
>>
>>Let me know...
>>
>>-- 
>>John Long
>>http://wiseheartdesign.com
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Chicago-talk mailing list
>>Chicago-talk at pm.org
>>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>>
> 
> 
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> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
> 
> 


From andy at petdance.com  Sun Sep 18 15:58:45 2005
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 17:58:45 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Ruby Presentation Anyone?
In-Reply-To: <24B9734D-8D5D-4B29-B88D-EA4623F9C76B@multiply.org>
References: <432C9182.4030103@johnwlong.com>
	<24B9734D-8D5D-4B29-B88D-EA4623F9C76B@multiply.org>
Message-ID: <A162E34A-8FC0-4525-B2F6-B405B2FFDDB3@petdance.com>

If we ever get a room again, yes, we would love to have a  
presentation on Ruby.

Thanks!

xoxo,
Andy

-- 
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance



From jason at multiply.org  Sun Sep 18 16:57:48 2005
From: jason at multiply.org (Jason Gessner)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:57:48 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Ruby Presentation Anyone?
In-Reply-To: <A162E34A-8FC0-4525-B2F6-B405B2FFDDB3@petdance.com>
References: <432C9182.4030103@johnwlong.com>
	<24B9734D-8D5D-4B29-B88D-EA4623F9C76B@multiply.org>
	<A162E34A-8FC0-4525-B2F6-B405B2FFDDB3@petdance.com>
Message-ID: <BB9FF002-FE0B-41C6-A6D0-DCEDC96302FF@multiply.org>


On Sep 18, 2005, at 5:58 PM, Andy Lester wrote:

> If we ever get a room again, yes, we would love to have a
> presentation on Ruby.

I should be able to get a room for october.  I will check the  
calendar and try to coordinate this week.  If that works out, we can  
meet at Performics again.

I will keep everyone posted.

Thanks!

-jason gessner
     jason at multiply.org
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From lembark at wrkhors.com  Tue Sep 20 06:14:34 2005
From: lembark at wrkhors.com (Steven Lembark)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 09:14:34 -0400
Subject: [Chicago-talk] citadel in the tribune
In-Reply-To: <E139522E-3497-4A88-A2E7-44EFDA5374D6@pobox.com>
References: <AC083471-6F98-46A5-A818-68DCE87FC3A9@pobox.com>
	<983E68AC-F8A9-48FC-B209-20083DC4E58F@sneer.org>
	<5B049888-60E0-4B9B-A29F-BCC0DB98E760@sneer.org>
	<E139522E-3497-4A88-A2E7-44EFDA5374D6@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <A143106261FEDBBA56F57ACF@[192.168.1.2]>



-- Edward Summers <ehs at pobox.com>

>
> On Sep 12, 2005, at 2:25 PM, Jason Perkins wrote:
>> Lemme clarify: I'm sure that the people there are doing more than
>> parsing metar data. As I recall, the job description was looking for
>> highly experienced perl developers and metar parsing was mentioned in
>> the job posting. No offense meant.
>
> Quite possibly. Citadel was the topic of discussion last week since
> they are looking for Perl talent pretty regularly in the Chicago area:

It's about the only Citadel investment group
there is: the one Downtown that's looking for
perl hackers.




-- 
Steven Lembark                                       85-09 90th Street
Workhorse Computing                                Woodhaven, NY 11421
lembark at wrkhors.com                                     1 888 359 3508

From andy at petdance.com  Thu Sep 22 22:01:57 2005
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 00:01:57 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Upcoming talk: The A-Z of contributing to CPAN
Message-ID: <1D3DB87D-63CF-4BC2-91D0-E7500D487816@petdance.com>


I'll be giving a talk at the Chicago Uniforum meeting on October 11th  
in Wheaton.

http://www.uniforum.chi.il.us/meetings/perlCPAN.html

I'll be giving the same talk at the Grand Rapids Perl Mongers meeting  
on 10/25.  Earlier that same day, I'll be giving the project  
estimation & tracking talk to a different Grand Rapids-area group.   
If you or anyone else is interested in details, let me know.

Abstract:
The A-Z Guide To Becoming a CPAN Author

Andy Lester will present an overview of what it takes to create a
module for distribution on the CPAN, the public repository of code
for the Perl community.  You'll learn how to turn your code into a
useful package that others around the world can use.  If you've
ever wanted to give back to Perl or open source, this talk will
guide your way, from the first inklings of an idea, to ongoing
maintenance of your software.

Bio:

Andy has 25 modules on the CPAN, and is a regular speaker at the
O'Reilly Open Source Conference, Yet Another Perl Conference, and
user groups around the country.  He leads a department of programmers
for Follett Library Resources in McHenry, IL.   "Pro Perl Debugging,"
which Andy co-authored, has just been published by Apress.

xoxo,
Andy

-- 
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance



From jamundsen at jamundsen.dyndns.org  Fri Sep 23 08:18:33 2005
From: jamundsen at jamundsen.dyndns.org (Jon Amundsen)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 10:18:33 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] How to make readline <> block on pipe.
Message-ID: <20050923151833.GL96001@utility>

Hi All!

Does anyone know how to make the <> operator or readline block until there is data?  I am trying to read from a pipe, and would like it to block until more data arrives.

Here is a simple example:


open(APIPE, "<./pipe") || die $! ;	### the open *does* block

while(1) {

	my $line = <APIPE> ;		### if there's nothing on the pipe this doesn't wait.
	print "line is: ", $line, "\n" ;
	sleep 1 ;			### just so it doesn't spin too fast during testing

}


I've tried using IO::File also and the ->blocking() method, but as far as I can tell it behaves the same.  Any help is really appreciated.

-- 

Jon Amundsen
jamundsen at jamundsen.dyndns.org

A "No" uttered from deepest conviction is better and greater than a
"Yes" merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble.
                -- Mahatma Gandhi
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From warren at warrenandrachel.com  Fri Sep 23 10:41:07 2005
From: warren at warrenandrachel.com (Warren Smith)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 12:41:07 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] How to make readline <> block on pipe.
In-Reply-To: <20050923151833.GL96001@utility>
References: <20050923151833.GL96001@utility>
Message-ID: <43343E33.2040703@warrenandrachel.com>

Are you sure you have a pipe?

$ mkfifo bob
$ ping localhost -i 5 > bob &
$ perl -le 'open my $fh, "<", "bob"; print while <$fh>'

Works for me.

-Warren


Jon Amundsen wrote:

>Hi All!
>
>Does anyone know how to make the <> operator or readline block until there is data?  I am trying to read from a pipe, and would like it to block until more data arrives.
>
>Here is a simple example:
>
>
>open(APIPE, "<./pipe") || die $! ;	### the open *does* block
>
>while(1) {
>
>	my $line = <APIPE> ;		### if there's nothing on the pipe this doesn't wait.
>	print "line is: ", $line, "\n" ;
>	sleep 1 ;			### just so it doesn't spin too fast during testing
>
>}
>
>
>I've tried using IO::File also and the ->blocking() method, but as far as I can tell it behaves the same.  Any help is really appreciated.
>
>  
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>Chicago-talk mailing list
>Chicago-talk at pm.org
>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>


From jamundsen at jamundsen.dyndns.org  Fri Sep 23 11:24:32 2005
From: jamundsen at jamundsen.dyndns.org (Jon Amundsen)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 13:24:32 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] How to make readline <> block on pipe.
In-Reply-To: <43343E33.2040703@warrenandrachel.com>
References: <20050923151833.GL96001@utility>
	<43343E33.2040703@warrenandrachel.com>
Message-ID: <20050923182432.GN96001@utility>

Thanks for the response.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 12:41:07PM -0500, Warren Smith wrote:
> Are you sure you have a pipe?

Yes I did!

> 
> $ mkfifo bob
> $ ping localhost -i 5 > bob &
> $ perl -le 'open my $fh, "<", "bob"; print while <$fh>'
> 
> Works for me.

And me as well. :)  At this point I'm not even sure what wasn't working.  It's been a long week.  Sorry for the noise. :P

> 
> -Warren
> 
> 
> Jon Amundsen wrote:
> 
> >Hi All!
> >
> >Does anyone know how to make the <> operator or readline block until there is data?  I am trying to read from a pipe, and would like it to block until more data arrives.
> >
> >Here is a simple example:
> >
> >
> >open(APIPE, "<./pipe") || die $! ;	### the open *does* block
> >
> >while(1) {
> >
> >	my $line = <APIPE> ;		### if there's nothing on the pipe this doesn't wait.
> >	print "line is: ", $line, "\n" ;
> >	sleep 1 ;			### just so it doesn't spin too fast during testing
> >
> >}
> >
> >
> >I've tried using IO::File also and the ->blocking() method, but as far as I can tell it behaves the same.  Any help is really appreciated.
> >

-- 

Jon Amundsen
jamundsen at jamundsen.dyndns.org

A "No" uttered from deepest conviction is better and greater than a
"Yes" merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble.
                -- Mahatma Gandhi
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From zrusilla at mac.com  Sun Sep 25 08:26:52 2005
From: zrusilla at mac.com (zrusilla@mac.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 10:26:52 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Request: spring/summer gig
Message-ID: <68fec61883511307a2e99db27b5b0814@mac.com>

Hello,

I've decided to go to grad school for teaching English as a second 
language, something completely non-Perl related.  I'm starting in the 
spring.  I'll be hunting around for some contract work for winter, 
spring and summer.   I'll be taking two courses in the late afternoon 
this spring and go full time in the fall.
If anyone hears of anything, shoot me an email at zrusilla at mac.com

Thanks,

Liz


From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Mon Sep 26 20:27:11 2005
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 22:27:11 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] New Perlcast Show
Message-ID: <49d805d705092620273f2b55bf@mail.gmail.com>

I've been pondering adding a more conversational show to the Perlcast
lineup.  Basically, it would just be a group of people getting
together once a week|half-month|month or so and talking about recent
events in the Perl world.  We could meet up at my place and talk Perl
over a few beers.  Probably be easier to do it here so that I don't
have to drag the mics and mixer around.  Would anyone be interested in
occasionally stopping by and participating (south loop area)?

Josh

From jason at multiply.org  Mon Sep 26 20:58:58 2005
From: jason at multiply.org (Jason Gessner)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 22:58:58 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Location for October Meeting nailed down!
Message-ID: <3D16E199-4E44-4EC4-89C9-8ECE4A2ED4C2@multiply.org>

Hi All.

I reserved the training room at Performics for our next meeting.

Performics is located downtown in the theatre district at:
180 N. Lasalle
Suite 1200

The meeting will be on Tuesday, October 11th, from 7-9pm.

John W Long offered to do a Ruby on Rails presentation and I am  
preparing something on Catalyst.  If anyone else has other material,  
speak up!

-jason gessner
     jason at multiply.org

From lembark at wrkhors.com  Mon Sep 26 23:05:27 2005
From: lembark at wrkhors.com (Steven Lembark)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 02:05:27 -0400
Subject: [Chicago-talk] [Perl Jobs] Project Engineer (onsite), United States,
 IL, Chicago area (Wheeling) (fwd)
Message-ID: <AB6DE92AABC6766E2AE846CD@[192.168.1.2]>



---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: Perl Jobs <jobs-admin at perl.org>
Subject: [Perl Jobs] Project Engineer (onsite), United States, IL, Chicago 
area (Wheeling)

> Online URL for this job: http://jobs.perl.org/job/2854
>
> To subscribe to this list, send mail to jobs-subscribe at perl.org.
> To unsubscribe, send mail to jobs-unsubscribe at perl.org.
>
> Posted: September 22, 2005
>
> Job title: Project Engineer
>
> Company name: Where2GetIt
>
> Location:
> United States, IL, Chicago area (Wheeling)
>
> Travel: 0-25%
>
> Terms of employment: Salaried employee
>
> Length of employment: Permanent full time
>
> Hours: Full time
>
> Onsite: yes
>
> Description:
> Where2GetIt is a fast paced organization in the middle of one of the
> hottest Internet growth areas, location based services. Our continued
> growth and success is dependent upon highly motivated and highly skilled
> individuals. If you want to join a team of like-minded people, this is the
> place for you. We have a passion for open source technologies and hope you
> do too.  We are a stable Internet services company with hundreds of
> clients around the world.
>
> The successful candidate will have a track record of managing custom
> application projects. This position works with our custom application
> developers and sales team to provide unique applications to our customers.
> Some travel will be required to interface with our customers. The Project
> Engineer will create requirements documents, manage the application
> development of custom applications (including writing code themselves when
> necessary) and deliver the application to the customer.
>
> Required skills:
> Experience providing project management
> Experience using Perl to write large applications
> Experience with Apache & mod_perl
> Experience with Javascript and XML
> Experience with Oracle, PostgreSQL and/or Mysql
> Familiarity with SOAP & XMLRPC
> Familiarity with AJAX programming methodologies
> BS in Computer Science or comparable experience
> Must have worked on commercially deployed applications through the full
> product lifecycle
> Highly self-motivated and effective team player
> Experience in high volume Internet applications
> Experience with object oriented Perl
> History working in cvs or subversion
> Excellent verbal and written communication skills a must
>
>
> Must be local to the Chicago region or willing to relocate.
>
>
> Contact information at:
> http://jobs.perl.org/job/2854#contact
>
>
>
>

---------- End Forwarded Message ----------



-- 
Steven Lembark                                       85-09 90th Street
Workhorse Computing                                Woodhaven, NY 11421
lembark at wrkhors.com                                     1 888 359 3508

From warren at warrenandrachel.com  Tue Sep 27 07:39:27 2005
From: warren at warrenandrachel.com (Warren Smith)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 09:39:27 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] New Perlcast Show
In-Reply-To: <49d805d705092620273f2b55bf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49d805d705092620273f2b55bf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4339599F.6070902@warrenandrachel.com>

I'm in.

-Warren

Joshua McAdams wrote:

>I've been pondering adding a more conversational show to the Perlcast
>lineup.  Basically, it would just be a group of people getting
>together once a week|half-month|month or so and talking about recent
>events in the Perl world.  We could meet up at my place and talk Perl
>over a few beers.  Probably be easier to do it here so that I don't
>have to drag the mics and mixer around.  Would anyone be interested in
>occasionally stopping by and participating (south loop area)?
>
>Josh
>_______________________________________________
>Chicago-talk mailing list
>Chicago-talk at pm.org
>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>  
>



From andy at petdance.com  Tue Sep 27 07:56:43 2005
From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 09:56:43 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Location for October Meeting nailed down!
In-Reply-To: <3D16E199-4E44-4EC4-89C9-8ECE4A2ED4C2@multiply.org>
References: <3D16E199-4E44-4EC4-89C9-8ECE4A2ED4C2@multiply.org>
Message-ID: <20050927145643.GG27597@petdance.com>

On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 10:58:58PM -0500, Jason Gessner (jason at multiply.org) wrote:
> The meeting will be on Tuesday, October 11th, from 7-9pm.

Thanks for doing this, Jason.  Can you please give me a quick blurb on
the Ruby On Rails talk, and on the speaker's background, so I can put it
up as an announcement on the site?

I'm very disappointed, too, because I'll be giving a talk to Uniforum
that night.  I'd really like to hear about RoR.

Thanks,
xoxo,
Andy

-- 
Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.petdance.com => AIM:petdance

From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com  Tue Sep 27 20:21:14 2005
From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 22:21:14 -0500
Subject: [Chicago-talk] New Perlcast Show
In-Reply-To: <4339599F.6070902@warrenandrachel.com>
References: <49d805d705092620273f2b55bf@mail.gmail.com>
	<4339599F.6070902@warrenandrachel.com>
Message-ID: <49d805d705092720212fafd44e@mail.gmail.com>

Good deal.  Are you able to show up in person... no specific dates
yet... just in general?

On 9/27/05, Warren Smith <warren at warrenandrachel.com> wrote:
> I'm in.
>
> -Warren
>
> Joshua McAdams wrote:
>
> >I've been pondering adding a more conversational show to the Perlcast
> >lineup.  Basically, it would just be a group of people getting
> >together once a week|half-month|month or so and talking about recent
> >events in the Perl world.  We could meet up at my place and talk Perl
> >over a few beers.  Probably be easier to do it here so that I don't
> >have to drag the mics and mixer around.  Would anyone be interested in
> >occasionally stopping by and participating (south loop area)?
> >
> >Josh
> >_______________________________________________
> >Chicago-talk mailing list
> >Chicago-talk at pm.org
> >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
> >
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chicago-talk mailing list
> Chicago-talk at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/chicago-talk
>

From janet at apress.com  Thu Sep 29 10:17:19 2005
From: janet at apress.com (Janet Crosbie)
Date: 29 Sep 2005 10:17:19 -0700
Subject: [Chicago-talk] Apress User Group Newsletter Here - Please Distribute
Message-ID: <OWA1KBpQvYnhTyr2Ae60000154f@mail.apress.com>

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3. T-shirts and eBooks

Our line of collectible T-shirts became so popular at recent tradeshows that we just had to sell them on our site. Take a look at the fun and clever styles, and even get a jump-start on your holiday shopping! The t-shirts are just $10 each, plus the cost of shipping. And if you purchase four out of the five featured styles at once, we'll *waive* the shipping cost!
http://www.apress.com/ecommerce/tshirt.html

The Apress eBookshop has also been very successful. After each hard-copy Apress title releases, we make the eBook version available within a few weeks. In addition, we've answered many of your requests, and we've enhanced the security and functionality of our eBooks. We have incorporated a single download button, implemented better placement of the drop-down title list, and removed all crop and printer's marks from the PDFs. You may send additional comments to support at apress.com.

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4. Code Camps and Other Events

Apress is pleased to announce that we've participated in a dozen code camps, conferences, and user group picnics over the summer. In October, we're participating in three more events.

How does this relate to your user group? If your group is participating in or hosting a special event, please let us know about it so that Apress can support the group's efforts and join in on the action. Write to janet at apress.com for more information.

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5. Apress Authors Speaking to Groups

Apress authors are a proactive bunch-true enthusiasts in their fields. We'd like to congratulate several authors who have managed to arrange lots of visits to different user groups in their regions.

Kathleen Dollard, author of the ever-popular "Code Generation in Microsoft .NET," has arranged a lengthy tour for herself. She's presenting to ten different groups and organizations through the end of the year.
http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=212

Meanwhile, first-time author Greg Anthony is speaking to six different user groups, plus some university organizations. Mr. Anthony is the author of the cross-platform "Iterating Infusion: Clearer Views of Objects, Classes, and Systems." 
http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10006 

And Adam Machanic, coauthor of the highly anticipated "Pro SQL Server 2005," will be speaking at four different events now through October 2005.
http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=457

If you'd like an Apress author to speak at your group's next meeting, you can fill out a simple request form through our User Groups page. It takes only a few minutes, and the results can be memorable for years to come. After we receive your request, we'll try to make a match between your group and a nearby Apress author.
http://www.apress.com/userGroups/speaker.html

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6. Top User Group Book Reviewers

Congratulations to some recent top-notch Apress reviewers! Members from these groups promptly wrote reviews for Apress books after winning books at group meetings or buying books on Amazon.

--Atlanta .NET Regular Guys
--chiPy (Chicago Python User Group)
--COLAJUG (Columbia Java Users Group)
--Dallas/Fort Worth Perl User Group
--New England Java Users Group

Do you want to see your name "in lights"-on your group's site, on Amazon.com, and possibly quoted on Apress.com? Ask your group leader about reviewing an Apress book. You'll accomplish several things at once: sharpen your skills, practice your review writing, and enjoy a free book! 

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7. The Latest Apress Books-Hot Off the Press

Pro C# 2005 and the .NET 2.0 Platform, Third Edition
By Andrew Troelsen
Published September 2005
ISBN: 1-59059-419-3
1032 pp.
$59.99
http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=390

Pro Eclipse JST: Plug-ins for J2EE Development
By Christopher M. Judd and Hakeem Shittu
Published September 2005
ISBN: 1-59059-493-2
360 pp.
$44.99
http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=447

Expert Oracle Database Architecture: 9i and 10g Programming Techniques and Solutions
By Thomas Kyte
Published September 2005
ISBN: 1-59059-530-0
768 pp.
$49.99
http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10008

The Definitive Guide to MySQL 5, Third Edition
By Michael Kofler
Published September 2005
ISBN: 1-59059-535-1
784 pp.
$49.99
http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10011

Pro ASP.NET 2.0 in C# 2005
By Matthew MacDonald and Mario Szpuszta
Published September 2005
ISBN: 1-59059-496-7
1288 pp.
$59.99
http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=450

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8. Forthcoming Books-Fall Releases

Get ready, get set-.NET 2.0 is launching on November 7, 2005! Apress has dozens of related titles releasing now through the beginning of 2006. Please browse our online catalog for a complete list.
http://apress.com/book/catalog.html

Please also visit ASP Today and the Apress Beta Community to learn more.
http://www.asptoday.com/
http://asptoday.com/abc/

Pro SQL Server 2005
By Thomas Rizzo et al.
To Publish: October 2005
ISBN: 1-59059-477-0
550 pp.
$49.99
http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=457

Pro Open SSH
By Michael Stahnke
To Publish: October 2005
ISBN: 1-59059-476-2
350 pp.
$39.99
http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=427

Beginning Java EE 5: From Novice to Professional
By Kevin Mukhar and Chris Zelenak with James Weaver and Jim Crume
To Publish: October 2005
ISBN: 1-59059-470-3
750 pp. 
$49.99
http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=420

Foundation Flash 8
By Sham Bhangal
To Publish: October 2005
ISBN: 1-59059-542-4
400 pp.
$34.99
http://www.friendsofed.com/books/1590595424/

Cost-Based Oracle, Volume 1: Fundamentals
By Jonathan Lewis
To Publish: October 2005
ISBN: 1-59059-636-6
400 pp.
$49.99
http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10081

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From lembark at wrkhors.com  Fri Sep 30 07:02:33 2005
From: lembark at wrkhors.com (Steven Lembark)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:02:33 -0400
Subject: [Chicago-talk] [Perl Jobs] Perl Developer (onsite), Chicago,
	IL (fwd)
Message-ID: <0ADE8A20711364BC5E4B9A35@[192.168.1.2]>


The Citadel is looking again. I think they are
converting an large-ish internal database from
Sybase to MySQL.

---------- Forwarded Message ----------
From: Perl Jobs <jobs-admin at perl.org>
Subject: [Perl Jobs] Perl Developer (onsite), Chicago, IL

> Online URL for this job: http://jobs.perl.org/job/3104
>
> To subscribe to this list, send mail to jobs-subscribe at perl.org.
> To unsubscribe, send mail to jobs-unsubscribe at perl.org.
>
> Posted: September 29, 2005
>
> Job title: Perl Developer
>
> Company name: Sesco Information Systems Inc.,
>
> Internal ID: P012
>
> Location: Chicago, IL
>
> Pay rate: NA
>
> Travel: 0%
>
> Terms of employment: Independent contractor (hourly)
>
> Length of employment: 3 months
>
> Hours: Full time
>
> Onsite: yes
>
> Required skills:
> * 3-5 years experience in object-oriented Perl and mod_Perl
> * Strong familiarity with mySQL/Sybase
> * Experience in complex relational database design
> * Experience with Linux
> * Exceptional skills in communication, customer service, teamwork and
> adherence to technical standards and procedures.
>
> Desired skills:
> Experience with Investment Banking/Financial software
>
> URL for more information: http://www.sescois.com/
>
> Contact information at:
> http://jobs.perl.org/job/3104#contact
>
>
>
>

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