[Chicago-talk] [OT] tivo

Young, Aaron Aaron.Young at citadelgroup.com
Wed Dec 31 09:28:48 CST 2003


i've lived with it in two areas of chicago and have had no problems
 
i've visited friends with it that live closer to downtown and they had no problems

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Jay Strauss [mailto:me at heyjay.com] 
	Sent: Mon 29/12/2003 22:51 
	To: Chicago.pm chatter 
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	Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] [OT] tivo 
	
	

	I've heard differing reports about the reception in the city.  From your
	tone, I take it, yours has had good reception?
	
	Jay
	----- Original Message -----
	From: "jason gessner" <jason at multiply.org>
	To: "'Chicago.pm chatter'" <chicago-talk at mail.pm.org>
	Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 10:41 PM
	Subject: [Chicago-talk] [OT] tivo
	
	
	> Directv tivo is the greatest tv accessory ever.  :)
	>
	> Sorry.  I had to say it.
	>
	> -jason scott gessner
	>     jason at multiply.org
	> -----Original Message-----
	> From: chicago-talk-bounces at mail.pm.org
	> [mailto:chicago-talk-bounces at mail.pm.org] On Behalf Of Jay Strauss
	> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 10:29 PM
	> To: Chicago.pm chatter
	> Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Very late Tivo Hacks review
	>
	> Hey thanks Aaron,
	>
	> I shot you the message and promptly went on vacation for a week.  Maybe
	I'll
	> buy the book, but lately I've been thinking about getting direct-tv with
	> tivo built it (which would solve a few of my tivo ills)
	>
	> Jay
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	> From: "Young, Aaron" <Aaron.Young at citadelgroup.com>
	> To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at mail.pm.org>
	> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 7:17 AM
	> Subject: RE: [Chicago-talk] Very late Tivo Hacks review
	>
	>
	> yes, they talk about what kind of card you have to order and give some
	> suggestions on what to do to make it look less like a "home" job
	>
	> i don't have it handy this moment, so i'm going by memory, but it is VERY
	> thorough on the types of tivos out there and how to get them all connected
	>
	> Aaron F Young
	> Broker Reconciliation
	> Operations & Portfolio Finance
	> Citadel Investment Group LLC
	>
	> > -----Original Message-----
	> > From: Jay Strauss [mailto:me at heyjay.com]
	> > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 9:14 PM
	> > To: Chicago.pm chatter
	> > Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Very late Tivo Hacks review
	> >
	> >
	> > Did the book mention installing a Ethernet card in a sonny vivo 1
	> > series?
	> > My modem is broke
	> >
	> > Jay
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	> > From: "Young, Aaron" <Aaron.Young at citadelgroup.com>
	> > To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at mail.pm.org>
	> > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 12:32 PM
	> > Subject: [Chicago-talk] Very late Tivo Hacks review
	> >
	> >
	> > my pithy offering
	> >
	> > Tivo Hacks
	> > This is a book for the Tivo owner that loves their Tivo, could not
	> > live without it, loves what it does, but surely...it can do a little
	> > more.
	> > And this book is for the person that wants the value of the published
	> > book.  There is definitely something convenient about holding step by
	> > step instructions in your hand while your equipment is in pieces
	> > before you just waiting to have those two 200gig harddrives placed
	> > inside to eventually be filled with episodes of Home Movies and Space
	> > Ghost.  And it is valuable to know that that information you hold was
	> > read by at least one other person before you.  While most of this
	> > information is scattered throughout the net on various websites, this
	> > book attempts to consolidate and summarize all that information into
	> > an all in one guide for Tivo upgrades, and it was written by people
	> > who have done what you are planning.  I can't imagine a handier guide.
	> > While there are some typos early in the book, which I HATE, they are
	> > easy to ignore, and do not lead you down the wrong path (I have read
	> > some programming books that decreased my knowledge in an area).
	> > Fortunately, this book only seems to suffer from it the first few
	> > chapters, and then, if there were any more, I missed them as I was
	> > busy trying to learn how to put a webserver on my Tivo and expand its
	> > capacity by 2-300%.
	> > I've never considered myself a hardware guy, and so, the chapter on
	> > removing the drives and putting them into a desktop are rich enough
	> > with detail to make even me feel confident enough to try it.  And I
	> > must note, the pictures are a tremendous help.  After reading that
	> > chapter, you will realize just how many Tivo are out there and
	> > appreciate the effort that went into putting such a guide together.  I
	> > am just glad I do not have one of the more difficult models to
	> > upgrade; at least those unlucky souls out there will have a guide.
	> > They even document where the "hard to get at" screws are and some that
	> > you can safely leave to the side as an "extra part."
	> > The first connection to the Tivo described in the book is via the
	> > serial connection.  While reading about the serial connection, I
	> > almost found myself yelling at the book as if I were watching a horror
	> > movie (Come one, don't use the serial connection, I have a Tivo2!) (I
	> > own a Tivo2 series model which comes with a network card
	> > preinstalled.) But I knew I was only going to regret skipping this
	> > chapter if I ever hacked up my Tivo so bad that I couldn't use the
	> > ethernet.  Also, there is something prideful in knowing how to connect
	> > to your Tivo any way it can.  He shows us how to transfer new software
	> > to the Tivo and how to configure it to run on boot up. We do this with
	> > some manual work made easy by using some freely available tools.
	> > After reading that first chapter, I was tempted to dig out a serial
	> > connection and prepare myself to OWN that Tivo, but there was a lot of
	> > book left to go, so I kept at it.
	> > Next, if you are fortunate enough to have a Tivo with a network
	> > interface card, then getting to Tivo via ethernet is trivial and
	> > thoroughly described.  If you are not that fortunate, or just have an
	> > older Tivo lying around and you do not want to leave it out of the lan
	> > parties, there are even instructions on how to connect a network card
	> > to older Tivos.
	> > Now, that the connection was made and convenient, he shows us that
	> > there are already a suite of advanced tools out there (with more being
	> > contributed).  Once you see the webserver, you may never use your
	> > remote to schedule recordings again (you can even use it as the
	> > remote). You can even use it to read email and or have your email read
	> > to you.  It will play mp3s and show you caller ID.  Having Tivo
	> > connected to the network opens brand new doors.
	> > The only chapter I truly struggled with was the programming the Tivo
	> > chapter.  I know that Tivo is undocumented, and I appreciate the
	> > effort it must have took to find out all those commands AND what
	> > options they take.  But TCL is NOT an easy language to just pick up,
	> > and I have had some training in it.  Then I remember, this isn't
	> > Learing TCL, so take note.  If you really want to hack Tivo, you will
	> > have to read source code and you will need a better guide for TCL than
	> > this book had space to give.  On the other hand, there are already so
	> > many programs out there, by the time you have grown bored with them,
	> > you will have had enough time to get a good TCL book.
	> > The book is organized well and each chapter builds on the previous.
	> > The book builds your knowledge fast enough to keep you from getting
	> > bored, but thorough enough that you can learn everything.  As you make
	> > the first fledgling connections to the Tivo, you are pretty excited to
	> > just be connected to the thing and make your name appear on the
	> > television screen.  (It kind of reminds me of my first computer, an
	> > Atari 800XL.) As you go on through the book, you find yourself feeling
	> > more and more confident about what you can do with the Tivo and it is
	> > almost like getting a new Tivo.  A hacked Tivo is to Tivo what Tivo is
	> > to television.  Once you do it, you will wonder why you hadn't done it
	> > sooner.
	> >
	> > Aaron F Young
	> > Broker Reconciliation
	> > Operations & Portfolio Finance
	> > Citadel Investment Group LLC
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