[Chicago-talk] [OT] tivo

Jay Strauss me at heyjay.com
Mon Dec 29 22:51:22 CST 2003


I've heard differing reports about the reception in the city.  From your
tone, I take it, yours has had good reception?

Jay
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From: "jason gessner" <jason at multiply.org>
To: "'Chicago.pm chatter'" <chicago-talk at mail.pm.org>
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 10:41 PM
Subject: [Chicago-talk] [OT] tivo


> Directv tivo is the greatest tv accessory ever.  :)
>
> Sorry.  I had to say it.
>
> -jason scott gessner
>     jason at multiply.org
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> [mailto:chicago-talk-bounces at mail.pm.org] On Behalf Of Jay Strauss
> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 10:29 PM
> To: Chicago.pm chatter
> Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Very late Tivo Hacks review
>
> Hey thanks Aaron,
>
> I shot you the message and promptly went on vacation for a week.  Maybe
I'll
> buy the book, but lately I've been thinking about getting direct-tv with
> tivo built it (which would solve a few of my tivo ills)
>
> Jay
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> From: "Young, Aaron" <Aaron.Young at citadelgroup.com>
> To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at mail.pm.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 7:17 AM
> Subject: RE: [Chicago-talk] Very late Tivo Hacks review
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>
> yes, they talk about what kind of card you have to order and give some
> suggestions on what to do to make it look less like a "home" job
>
> i don't have it handy this moment, so i'm going by memory, but it is VERY
> thorough on the types of tivos out there and how to get them all connected
>
> Aaron F Young
> Broker Reconciliation
> Operations & Portfolio Finance
> Citadel Investment Group LLC
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jay Strauss [mailto:me at heyjay.com]
> > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 9:14 PM
> > To: Chicago.pm chatter
> > Subject: Re: [Chicago-talk] Very late Tivo Hacks review
> >
> >
> > Did the book mention installing a Ethernet card in a sonny vivo 1
> > series?
> > My modem is broke
> >
> > Jay
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Young, Aaron" <Aaron.Young at citadelgroup.com>
> > To: "Chicago.pm chatter" <chicago-talk at mail.pm.org>
> > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 12:32 PM
> > Subject: [Chicago-talk] Very late Tivo Hacks review
> >
> >
> > my pithy offering
> >
> > Tivo Hacks
> > This is a book for the Tivo owner that loves their Tivo, could not
> > live without it, loves what it does, but surely...it can do a little
> > more.
> > And this book is for the person that wants the value of the published
> > book.  There is definitely something convenient about holding step by
> > step instructions in your hand while your equipment is in pieces
> > before you just waiting to have those two 200gig harddrives placed
> > inside to eventually be filled with episodes of Home Movies and Space
> > Ghost.  And it is valuable to know that that information you hold was
> > read by at least one other person before you.  While most of this
> > information is scattered throughout the net on various websites, this
> > book attempts to consolidate and summarize all that information into
> > an all in one guide for Tivo upgrades, and it was written by people
> > who have done what you are planning.  I can't imagine a handier guide.
> > While there are some typos early in the book, which I HATE, they are
> > easy to ignore, and do not lead you down the wrong path (I have read
> > some programming books that decreased my knowledge in an area).
> > Fortunately, this book only seems to suffer from it the first few
> > chapters, and then, if there were any more, I missed them as I was
> > busy trying to learn how to put a webserver on my Tivo and expand its
> > capacity by 2-300%.
> > I've never considered myself a hardware guy, and so, the chapter on
> > removing the drives and putting them into a desktop are rich enough
> > with detail to make even me feel confident enough to try it.  And I
> > must note, the pictures are a tremendous help.  After reading that
> > chapter, you will realize just how many Tivo are out there and
> > appreciate the effort that went into putting such a guide together.  I
> > am just glad I do not have one of the more difficult models to
> > upgrade; at least those unlucky souls out there will have a guide.
> > They even document where the "hard to get at" screws are and some that
> > you can safely leave to the side as an "extra part."
> > The first connection to the Tivo described in the book is via the
> > serial connection.  While reading about the serial connection, I
> > almost found myself yelling at the book as if I were watching a horror
> > movie (Come one, don't use the serial connection, I have a Tivo2!) (I
> > own a Tivo2 series model which comes with a network card
> > preinstalled.) But I knew I was only going to regret skipping this
> > chapter if I ever hacked up my Tivo so bad that I couldn't use the
> > ethernet.  Also, there is something prideful in knowing how to connect
> > to your Tivo any way it can.  He shows us how to transfer new software
> > to the Tivo and how to configure it to run on boot up. We do this with
> > some manual work made easy by using some freely available tools.
> > After reading that first chapter, I was tempted to dig out a serial
> > connection and prepare myself to OWN that Tivo, but there was a lot of
> > book left to go, so I kept at it.
> > Next, if you are fortunate enough to have a Tivo with a network
> > interface card, then getting to Tivo via ethernet is trivial and
> > thoroughly described.  If you are not that fortunate, or just have an
> > older Tivo lying around and you do not want to leave it out of the lan
> > parties, there are even instructions on how to connect a network card
> > to older Tivos.
> > Now, that the connection was made and convenient, he shows us that
> > there are already a suite of advanced tools out there (with more being
> > contributed).  Once you see the webserver, you may never use your
> > remote to schedule recordings again (you can even use it as the
> > remote). You can even use it to read email and or have your email read
> > to you.  It will play mp3s and show you caller ID.  Having Tivo
> > connected to the network opens brand new doors.
> > The only chapter I truly struggled with was the programming the Tivo
> > chapter.  I know that Tivo is undocumented, and I appreciate the
> > effort it must have took to find out all those commands AND what
> > options they take.  But TCL is NOT an easy language to just pick up,
> > and I have had some training in it.  Then I remember, this isn't
> > Learing TCL, so take note.  If you really want to hack Tivo, you will
> > have to read source code and you will need a better guide for TCL than
> > this book had space to give.  On the other hand, there are already so
> > many programs out there, by the time you have grown bored with them,
> > you will have had enough time to get a good TCL book.
> > The book is organized well and each chapter builds on the previous.
> > The book builds your knowledge fast enough to keep you from getting
> > bored, but thorough enough that you can learn everything.  As you make
> > the first fledgling connections to the Tivo, you are pretty excited to
> > just be connected to the thing and make your name appear on the
> > television screen.  (It kind of reminds me of my first computer, an
> > Atari 800XL.) As you go on through the book, you find yourself feeling
> > more and more confident about what you can do with the Tivo and it is
> > almost like getting a new Tivo.  A hacked Tivo is to Tivo what Tivo is
> > to television.  Once you do it, you will wonder why you hadn't done it
> > sooner.
> >
> > Aaron F Young
> > Broker Reconciliation
> > Operations & Portfolio Finance
> > Citadel Investment Group LLC
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