[Cascavel-pm] Re: Sao-Paulo.pm.org Group ownership and responsability claiming

[saopaulo em mail.pm.org]

I meant what I meant. When I said that I would be happy to see this group 
growing, it's because I really do. That was something that I couldn't do 
and I hope others will.

And I believe I'll not even be able to participate in this group because 
I'm living in Canada since Dec/2003, starting a new life here with my 
family.

So, my best whishes for you all!

[]s,
Sergio Salvi.

On Thu, 13 May 2004, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:

> Sergio Salvi wrote:
> > Hi Dave and Luis,
> 
>    Hi mr Salvi, mr Cross
> 
> > On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:
> >>   Hi Dave, Hi mr Sergio Salvi.
> >>
> >>   Dave, I'm claiming the Sao-Paulo.pm.org Perl M[ou]ngers 
> >>responsability for the folloing reasons:
> >>
> >>   1. There is no active responsible for the Sao-Paulo.pm.org facilities 
> >>now.
> > Right.
> > 
> > 
> >>It seems that mr Salvi is not reacheable on this mailbox anymore. 
> >>My last contact try go back to august, and not even a return receipt 
> >>gets back. I'm CC'ing mr. Salvi as a faith gesture, only. No message 
> >>ever returned. (:
> > 
> > Wrong. I received an email from Luis on Aug 26 and replied it. On last 
> > December 15, I received another one and also replied. So please don't make 
> > things up.
> > 
> 
>    So there are two missing messages. I tryied to contact mr Salvi at 
> February 24, with no response (and no SMTP error message?!?) and tryied 
> to invite mr Salvi for the first Sao Paulo Perl M[ou]ngers at March 15, 
> (again with no response or SMTP error message).
> 
>    I apologise both mr Salvi and mr Cross for the mess. This is my fault.
> 
> >>   2. There is no activity at all at the Sao-Paulo.pm.org website since 
> >>last year, and no member from Sao-Paulo.pm.org at the First PM'ers 
> >>meeting organized at São Paulo, on March 20.
> > 
> > 
> > Right.
> > 
> > 
> >>   Sergio Salvi, this is your last chance. If you receive this, please 
> >>answer me or Dave, and let us know about your interest on the ownership 
> >>of the Sao-Paulo.pm.org Perl M[ou]ngers Group.
> > 
> > 
> > I definitely can't spend more time and effort in this group and totally 
> > agree to transfer it to Luis or anyone else interested on it. I'd be happy 
> > to see this group developed and with a huge community created.
> > 
> > 
> >>   Dave, I hope this will sufice for "officially" claim the 
> >>Sao-Paulo.pm.org responsability. Please let me know if I'm missing 
> >>something.
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > I've copied Dave just to make sure he will see this message.
> > 
> > []s,
> > Sergio Salvi.
> > 
> 
>    I'm feeling an agresive accent on your words, mr Salvi.
> 
>    More important than reactivate the Sao Paulo PM Group is to keep a 
> good relationship with the members of the PM Community. As far as I 
> know, this includes you too.
> 
>    Maybe my attitudes are the cause of your anger. I would like to 
> apologise if this is true. Maybe my anxiety and hurry on doing something 
>   for the group offended you personally.
> 
>    Maybe mr. Cross don't like something on my attitudes until now. 
> Please  forgive me too, mr Cross. My only intention is to get out of the 
> innertia and start a great community at Sao Paulo, as I see at the 
> London PM Group.
> 
>    Please don't take this personal. I will apologise for my faults in 
> public if this helps to make peace.
> 
>    Thank you both, and best regards.
>