From jarich at perltraining.com.au  Sun May  4 19:57:50 2008
From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson)
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 12:57:50 +1000
Subject: [Canberra-pm] PM census & meeting next week?
In-Reply-To: <200804291314.21409.michael@james.st>
References: <48151ADF.30902@perltraining.com.au>
	<200804291314.21409.michael@james.st>
Message-ID: <481E77AE.1020606@perltraining.com.au>

Anyone else?

	J

Michael James wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:31:27 am Jacinta Richardson wrote:
>> If you have a strong preference for a weeknight,
>> let me know and I'll take that into account. 
> 
> I'd like to come along and see who's interested too.
> 
> Thursday would be my preferred day...
> 
> michaelj
> 

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From megamic at gmail.com  Mon May  5 14:47:45 2008
From: megamic at gmail.com (Michael Potter)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 07:47:45 +1000
Subject: [Canberra-pm] Canberra-pm Digest, Vol 38, Issue 1
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Is this event still on? I would be interested

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> > On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:31:27 am Jacinta Richardson wrote:
> >> If you have a strong preference for a weeknight,
> >> let me know and I'll take that into account.
> >
> > I'd like to come along and see who's interested too.
> >
> > Thursday would be my preferred day...
> >
> > michaelj
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From jarich at perltraining.com.au  Mon May  5 23:02:06 2008
From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson)
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 16:02:06 +1000
Subject: [Canberra-pm] Meeting Thursday 8th May
Message-ID: <481FF45E.5050102@perltraining.com.au>

G'day folk,

Paul Fenwick would love to catch up with all you Perl Mongers in Canberra on
Thursday night.  Paul Wayper who runs the CLUG Programmers' Special Interest
Group Meeting has kindly arranged facilities for the talk.

At this stage I can't tell you what Paul will be talking on, but there's a very
good chance that there'll be a Perlish talk on something to be announced
followed by:

An Illustrated History of Software Failure
Paul Fenwick - Paul Training Australia

The average individual is given little scope for failure, at least not the type
that really matters. However in recent times we have developed a profession who
have the opportunity to fail like never before. The few, the proud, the Software
Developers. Join us for a voyage of discovery, as we travel back through history
to some of the most monumental failures the world has ever seen.

Paul Fenwick is the managing director of Perl Training Australia, and is an
experienced speaker at technical conferences worldwide. His interests include
security, mycology, cycling, coffee, scuba diving, and lexically scoped user
pragmata.


The SIG details are below, but I'm not sure whether the location is correct.
Paul Wayper to advise.


	CLUG Programmers' Special Interest Group Meeting - 8th May 2008
	===============================================================

Date:		8th May 2008 (Second Thursday of the month)

Time:		18:30 - 21:00 (or when it finishes)

Venue:		Canberra City Pancake Parlour
		
		Find platform 4 in the City Interchange (see map below)
		and then look for the Pancake Parlour sandwich board.
		At the bottom of the stairs, look for the PSIG sign on
		the counter and a stuffed penguin in the indicated
		direction.

		http://tinyurl.com/dyexl

Food/drink:	The Pancake Parlour has a large variety of food and
		drink available, so bring some cash and grab a bite
		to eat or drink.


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From pjf at perltraining.com.au  Tue May  6 17:17:38 2008
From: pjf at perltraining.com.au (Paul Fenwick)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 10:17:38 +1000
Subject: [Canberra-pm] Meeting Thursday 8th May
In-Reply-To: <48204CA1.7000207@mabula.net>
References: <481FF45E.5050102@perltraining.com.au>
	<48204CA1.7000207@mabula.net>
Message-ID: <4820F522.9070106@perltraining.com.au>

G'day Everyone,

Just a quick list of talks I'll be giving; feel free to publicise these:

* What's new in Perl 5.10 - Switch, smart-match, and more!

* IPC::System::Simple - Taking the hard work out of system()

* autodie.pm - Lexical laziness for Perl 5.10.1

And then if you're not completely sick of me:

* An illustrated history of failure (abstract provided already by Jacinta).

Cheerio,

	Paul

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Director of Training                   | Ph:  +61 3 9354 6001
Perl Training Australia                | Fax: +61 3 9354 2681

From jarich at perltraining.com.au  Wed May  7 22:32:45 2008
From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 15:32:45 +1000
Subject: [Canberra-pm] [clug] May CLUG Programmers' Special Interest Group
	meeting
Message-ID: <4822907D.7040403@perltraining.com.au>

Changing some details.  This is TONIGHT.

	CLUG Programmers' Special Interest Group Meeting - 8th May 2008
	===============================================================

Date:		8th May 2008 (Second Thursday of the month)

Time:		18:30 - 21:00 (or when it finishes)

Speaker:	Paul Fenwick

		Paul Fenwick is the managing director of Perl Training
		Australia, and is an experienced speaker at technical
		conferences worldwide. His interests include security, mycology,
		cycling, coffee, scuba diving, and lexically scoped user
		pragmata.

Abstract:	* What's new in Perl 5.10 - Switch, smart-match, and more!
		* IPC::System::Simple - Taking the hard work out of system()
		* autodie.pm - Lexical laziness for Perl 5.10.1

		and the OSDC 2007 dinner keynote:

		The average individual is given little scope for failure, at
		least not the type that really matters. However in recent times
		we have developed a profession who have the opportunity to fail
		like never before. The few, the proud, the Software Developers.
		Join us for a voyage of discovery, as we travel back through
		history to some of the most monumental failures the world has
		ever seen.

Venue:		Meet at 6pm Cafe Essen

		Head over to the Looking Glass Solutions training rooms on Bunda
		Street at around 7PM for the talk.  Afterwards we take a group
		vote and go out for dinner.  You can find a map for these two
		places by following http://urltea.com/35ks?PSIG_Meeting


From pjf at perltraining.com.au  Fri May  9 00:52:31 2008
From: pjf at perltraining.com.au (Paul Fenwick)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 17:52:31 +1000
Subject: [Canberra-pm] Thoughts from Canberra.pm last night
Message-ID: <482402BF.3020503@perltraining.com.au>

G'day Everyone,

Thanks for everyone who turned up for my talks last night.  I wasn't 
expecting such a large audience (we ran out of seating), or such enthusiasm 
for my presentations.  ;)

I do remember that I had a couple of people ask me about volunteering to 
help with the care and feeding of Canberra.pm.  If you're still interested 
in doing so, speaking up on the list is the best way to get started.

One of the things that Paul Wayper discussed at the pub the idea of 
Canberra.pm / PSIG working on a project together.  This e-mail is partially 
to remind you of that idea, to kick off any conversation.

Finally, if you spoke to me at the meeting, and I said I'd do something, and
I haven't yet, then I may have forgotten.  Please drop me an e-mail, or, if 
you use hiveminder[1], send me a task at pjf at perltraining.com.au .

Cheerio,

	Paul

[1] http://hiveminder.com/ ; you can find my slidecast about it at
     http://pjf.id.au/blog/?position=520

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Director of Training                   | Ph:  +61 3 9354 6001
Perl Training Australia                | Fax: +61 3 9354 2681

From megamic at gmail.com  Fri May  9 19:27:39 2008
From: megamic at gmail.com (Michael Potter)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 12:27:39 +1000
Subject: [Canberra-pm] Canberra-pm Digest, Vol 38, Issue 5
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1210359605.12085.canberra-pm@pm.org>
References: <mailman.3.1210359605.12085.canberra-pm@pm.org>
Message-ID: <167f9c460805091927r67e436ffv7d94c4f54acd87e8@mail.gmail.com>

All the Canberra PMs...

Given the interest at last meet, I believe the Canberra PM group has good
prospects to continue meeting up and what-not. I would be happy to
contribute to the mailing list if there is no-one currently maintaining it
(not sure what this involves though...).

I think Paul's idea of a project would be a great idea to get this started,
and would provide an ongoing focus for further meetings.

Before we start booking conference halls however, It would be good to get a
count of people who are serious about getting involved (either in a regular
PM meet, a project or both).

If anyone has any bright ideas of an interesting project they would like to
see happen, speak up. I think something that is based on the web (or at
least has a web front-end) would be great, as the little experience I have
had with Perl and the web (CGI::Ajax, SOAP::Lite) has been really fun,
doesn't involve anything too hardcore or obscure, and can involve people of
all skill levels. In particular, using JSON to pass complex data structures
back-and-forward between Perl and Javascript is the bomb!

I would also like to hear some ideas on the format for any PM meet up....do
we organize training sessions, talks, workshops, or just ad-lib it on the
night? So if you have some particular area of interest or a topic you want
to discuss, speak up!

Hope to hear from you all..
Cheers
Michael



>
> G'day Everyone,
>
> Thanks for everyone who turned up for my talks last night.  I wasn't
> expecting such a large audience (we ran out of seating), or such enthusiasm
> for my presentations.  ;)
>
> I do remember that I had a couple of people ask me about volunteering to
> help with the care and feeding of Canberra.pm.  If you're still interested
> in doing so, speaking up on the list is the best way to get started.
>
> One of the things that Paul Wayper discussed at the pub the idea of
> Canberra.pm / PSIG working on a project together.  This e-mail is partially
> to remind you of that idea, to kick off any conversation.
>
> Finally, if you spoke to me at the meeting, and I said I'd do something,
> and
> I haven't yet, then I may have forgotten.  Please drop me an e-mail, or, if
> you use hiveminder[1], send me a task at pjf at perltraining.com.au .
>
> Cheerio,
>
>        Paul
>
> [1] http://hiveminder.com/ ; you can find my slidecast about it at
>     http://pjf.id.au/blog/?position=520
>
> --
> Paul Fenwick <pjf at perltraining.com.au> | http://perltraining.com.au/
> Director of Training                   | Ph:  +61 3 9354 6001
> Perl Training Australia                | Fax: +61 3 9354 2681
>
>
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From John.Hockaday at ga.gov.au  Sun May 11 16:45:18 2008
From: John.Hockaday at ga.gov.au (John.Hockaday at ga.gov.au)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 09:45:18 +1000
Subject: [Canberra-pm] Canberra-pm Digest, Vol 38,
	Issue 5 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
Message-ID: <8BD19F29B0E16E4F88277A997CD872C203AF67FC@mail.agso.gov.au>

Hi Michael,

My main interest in this list is help with some code or use of packages.  So
far this list has been very helpful so I would like to see it continue.  I
don't have much interest in meetings unless there is a specific topic that I
like.  Therefore I would like to see an agenda before any meeting.  My main
interest is XML technologies.

Thanks to all for their support.


John

-----Original Message-----
From: canberra-pm-bounces+john.hockaday=ga.gov.au at pm.org
[mailto:canberra-pm-bounces+john.hockaday=ga.gov.au at pm.org] On Behalf Of
Michael Potter
Sent: Saturday, 10 May 2008 12:28 PM
To: canberra-pm at pm.org
Subject: Re: [Canberra-pm] Canberra-pm Digest, Vol 38, Issue 5


All the Canberra PMs...

Given the interest at last meet, I believe the Canberra PM group has good
prospects to continue meeting up and what-not. I would be happy to contribute
to the mailing list if there is no-one currently maintaining it (not sure
what this involves though...).

I think Paul's idea of a project would be a great idea to get this started,
and would provide an ongoing focus for further meetings. 

Before we start booking conference halls however, It would be good to get a
count of people who are serious about getting involved (either in a regular
PM meet, a project or both).

If anyone has any bright ideas of an interesting project they would like to
see happen, speak up. I think something that is based on the web (or at least
has a web front-end) would be great, as the little experience I have had with
Perl and the web (CGI::Ajax, SOAP::Lite) has been really fun, doesn't involve
anything too hardcore or obscure, and can involve people of all skill levels.
In particular, using JSON to pass complex data structures back-and-forward
between Perl and Javascript is the bomb!

I would also like to hear some ideas on the format for any PM meet up....do
we organize training sessions, talks, workshops, or just ad-lib it on the
night? So if you have some particular area of interest or a topic you want to
discuss, speak up!

Hope to hear from you all..
Cheers
Michael

 

G'day Everyone,

Thanks for everyone who turned up for my talks last night.  I wasn't
expecting such a large audience (we ran out of seating), or such enthusiasm
for my presentations.  ;)

I do remember that I had a couple of people ask me about volunteering to
help with the care and feeding of Canberra.pm.  If you're still interested
in doing so, speaking up on the list is the best way to get started.

One of the things that Paul Wayper discussed at the pub the idea of
Canberra.pm / PSIG working on a project together.  This e-mail is partially
to remind you of that idea, to kick off any conversation.

Finally, if you spoke to me at the meeting, and I said I'd do something, and
I haven't yet, then I may have forgotten.  Please drop me an e-mail, or, if
you use hiveminder[1], send me a task at pjf at perltraining.com.au .

Cheerio,

       Paul

[1] http://hiveminder.com/ ; you can find my slidecast about it at
    http://pjf.id.au/blog/?position=520

--
Paul Fenwick <pjf at perltraining.com.au> | http://perltraining.com.au/
Director of Training                   | Ph:  +61 3 9354 6001
Perl Training Australia                | Fax: +61 3 9354 2681


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From jarich at perltraining.com.au  Sun May 11 19:12:58 2008
From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 12:12:58 +1000
Subject: [Canberra-pm] Becoming Group Leader (was Re:  Canberra-pm Digest,
 Vol 38, Issue 5)
In-Reply-To: <167f9c460805091927r67e436ffv7d94c4f54acd87e8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.3.1210359605.12085.canberra-pm@pm.org>
	<167f9c460805091927r67e436ffv7d94c4f54acd87e8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4827A7AA.7020203@perltraining.com.au>

Michael Potter wrote:

> Given the interest at last meet, I believe the Canberra PM group has
> good prospects to continue meeting up and what-not. I would be happy to
> contribute to the mailing list if there is no-one currently maintaining
> it (not sure what this involves though...).

Jeremy Price, the listed group leader of Canberra PM, is current missing.  His
currently registered address with pm.org ( http://www.pm.org/groups/537.html )
is bouncing.  If you're happy to become the new leader then all you need to do
is follow the instructions here:

http://groups.pm.org/faq.html#how_do_i_request_a_new_group_or_to_reactivate_a_group_that_has_been_inactive

although familiarising yourself with most of the rest of the information on that
page is probably a good idea too.  Once you do this, you will be responsible for
keeping the website up to date (for some definition of up to date) and
moderating posts/spam from non-members to the list.

With respect to keeping the website up to date, you are more than welcome to
redirect http://canberra.pm.org/ to point to the PerlNet wiki Canberra PM page
http://perl.net.au/wiki/Canberra_Perl_Mongers (which is also a bit out of date).
 This way everyone can then help maintain your page. perl.net.au (run by Paul
and myself) has fairly good spam capturing and monitoring, so your page should
be fairly safe from bot-vandalism.   Sydney Perl Mongers does this at
http://sydney.pm.org

If you have any questions, I'd be delighted to help.  davorg's sent out the
census this morning: http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/11/2133229  So
there's no time to waste!

	J

PS: If you're lead to think, out of a love of democracy, that the group leader
should be elected, or generally approved of, I'd encourage you still to become
leader *right now* and then contact davorg for the census questions.  You can
always pass the baton on later.

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    (_Y_.)'  ._   )  `._ `. ``-..-'   |      +61 3 9354 6001        |
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From guyd at tpg.com.au  Wed May 14 08:20:07 2008
From: guyd at tpg.com.au (Guy de Vanny)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 01:20:07 +1000
Subject: [Canberra-pm] Becoming Group Leader (was Re: Canberra-pm Digest, Vol 38,
 Issue 5)
In-Reply-To: <4827A7AA.7020203@perltraining.com.au>
References: <mailman.3.1210359605.12085.canberra-pm@pm.org>	<167f9c460805091927r67e436ffv7d94c4f54acd87e8@mail.gmail.com>
	<4827A7AA.7020203@perltraining.com.au>
Message-ID: <482B0327.4050306@tpg.com.au>

Hi All,

I also was at the Canberra meeting last week - excellent talks - thanks 
Paul.  I am keen to see the group continue. Unless Michael or John want 
to put their hand up, I am happy to register as the leader and do the 
web and mail stuff and organise some meetings and perhaps a project.

I am sure that with the bit of interest already shown we can breathe 
some more life into the Canberra PM group. So  put in your thoughts, and 
unless someone else is keen to do it, I'll  register at groups.pm.org 
tomorrow or Friday night.  After that I think we need a meeting in the 
next fortnight or so to plan some action for the year.

Cheers,
Guy


Jacinta Richardson wrote:
> Michael Potter wrote:
>
>   
>> Given the interest at last meet, I believe the Canberra PM group has
>> good prospects to continue meeting up and what-not. I would be happy to
>> contribute to the mailing list if there is no-one currently maintaining
>> it (not sure what this involves though...).
>>     
>
> Jeremy Price, the listed group leader of Canberra PM, is current missing.  His
> currently registered address with pm.org ( http://www.pm.org/groups/537.html )
> is bouncing.  If you're happy to become the new leader then all you need to do
> is follow the instructions here:
>
> http://groups.pm.org/faq.html#how_do_i_request_a_new_group_or_to_reactivate_a_group_that_has_been_inactive
>
> although familiarising yourself with most of the rest of the information on that
> page is probably a good idea too.  Once you do this, you will be responsible for
> keeping the website up to date (for some definition of up to date) and
> moderating posts/spam from non-members to the list.
>
> With respect to keeping the website up to date, you are more than welcome to
> redirect http://canberra.pm.org/ to point to the PerlNet wiki Canberra PM page
> http://perl.net.au/wiki/Canberra_Perl_Mongers (which is also a bit out of date).
>  This way everyone can then help maintain your page. perl.net.au (run by Paul
> and myself) has fairly good spam capturing and monitoring, so your page should
> be fairly safe from bot-vandalism.   Sydney Perl Mongers does this at
> http://sydney.pm.org
>
> If you have any questions, I'd be delighted to help.  davorg's sent out the
> census this morning: http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/11/2133229  So
> there's no time to waste!
>
> 	J
>
> PS: If you're lead to think, out of a love of democracy, that the group leader
> should be elected, or generally approved of, I'd encourage you still to become
> leader *right now* and then contact davorg for the census questions.  You can
> always pass the baton on later.
>
>   
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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From John.Hockaday at ga.gov.au  Wed May 14 16:41:36 2008
From: John.Hockaday at ga.gov.au (John.Hockaday at ga.gov.au)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 09:41:36 +1000
Subject: [Canberra-pm] Becoming Group Leader (was Re: Canberra-pm Digest,
	Vol 38, Issue 5) [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
Message-ID: <8BD19F29B0E16E4F88277A997CD872C203AF681A@mail.agso.gov.au>

I'm happy for anyone else to maintain this list.  It is very useful so I hope
someone will.

Thanks.


John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: canberra-pm-bounces+john.hockaday=ga.gov.au at pm.org 
> [mailto:canberra-pm-bounces+john.hockaday=ga.gov.au at pm.org] 
> On Behalf Of Guy de Vanny
> Sent: Thursday, 15 May 2008 1:20 AM
> To: Jacinta Richardson
> Cc: canberra-pm at pm.org; Michael Potter
> Subject: Re: [Canberra-pm] Becoming Group Leader (was Re: 
> Canberra-pm Digest, Vol 38, Issue 5)
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I also was at the Canberra meeting last week - excellent 
> talks - thanks 
> Paul.  I am keen to see the group continue. Unless Michael or 
> John want 
> to put their hand up, I am happy to register as the leader and do the 
> web and mail stuff and organise some meetings and perhaps a project.
> 
> I am sure that with the bit of interest already shown we can breathe 
> some more life into the Canberra PM group. So  put in your 
> thoughts, and 
> unless someone else is keen to do it, I'll  register at groups.pm.org 
> tomorrow or Friday night.  After that I think we need a 
> meeting in the 
> next fortnight or so to plan some action for the year.
> 
> Cheers,
> Guy
> 
> 
> Jacinta Richardson wrote:
> > Michael Potter wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Given the interest at last meet, I believe the Canberra PM 
> group has
> >> good prospects to continue meeting up and what-not. I 
> would be happy to
> >> contribute to the mailing list if there is no-one 
> currently maintaining
> >> it (not sure what this involves though...).
> >>     
> >
> > Jeremy Price, the listed group leader of Canberra PM, is 
> current missing.  His
> > currently registered address with pm.org ( 
> http://www.pm.org/groups/537.html )
> > is bouncing.  If you're happy to become the new leader then 
> all you need to do
> > is follow the instructions here:
> >
> > 
> http://groups.pm.org/faq.html#how_do_i_request_a_new_group_or_
to_reactivate_a_group_that_has_been_inactive
>
> although familiarising yourself with most of the rest of the information on
that
> page is probably a good idea too.  Once you do this, you will be
responsible for
> keeping the website up to date (for some definition of up to date) and
> moderating posts/spam from non-members to the list.
>
> With respect to keeping the website up to date, you are more than welcome
to
> redirect http://canberra.pm.org/ to point to the PerlNet wiki Canberra PM
page
> http://perl.net.au/wiki/Canberra_Perl_Mongers (which is also a bit out of
date).
>  This way everyone can then help maintain your page. perl.net.au (run by
Paul
> and myself) has fairly good spam capturing and monitoring, so your page
should
> be fairly safe from bot-vandalism.   Sydney Perl Mongers does this at
> http://sydney.pm.org
>
> If you have any questions, I'd be delighted to help.  davorg's sent out the
> census this morning: http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/11/2133229
So
> there's no time to waste!
>
> 	J
>
> PS: If you're lead to think, out of a love of democracy, that the group
leader
> should be elected, or generally approved of, I'd encourage you still to
become
> leader *right now* and then contact davorg for the census questions.  You
can
> always pass the baton on later.
>
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From jarich at perltraining.com.au  Thu May 15 23:06:33 2008
From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 16:06:33 +1000
Subject: [Canberra-pm] OSDC 2008 Sydney (1-5 Dec 2008) - Call for Papers
Message-ID: <482D2469.2000501@perltraining.com.au>

Sorry if this results in a duplicate.  I just haven't seen it around as much as
I'd like

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Call for Papers
Open Source Developers' Conference 2008
1st - 5th December 2008, Sydney, Australia

The Open Source Developers' Conference 2008 is a conference run by open source
developers, for developers and business people. It covers numerous programming
languages across a range of operating systems, and related topics such as
business processes, licensing, and strategy. Talks vary from introductory pieces
through to the deeply technical. It is a great opportunity to meet, share, and
learn with like-minded individuals.

This year, the conference will be held in Sydney, Australia during the first
week of December (1st - 5th). If you are an Open Source maintainer, developer or
user, the organising committee would encourage you to submit a talk proposal on
open source tools, solutions, languages or technologies you are working with.

For more details and to submit your proposal(s), go to:
http://osdc.com.au/2008/papers/cfp.html

If you have any questions or require assistance with your submission, please
don't hesitate to ask!

We recognise the importance of Open Source in providing a medium for
collaboration between individuals, researchers, business and government. In
recognition of this and ensure a high standard of presentations, we intend to
peer-review all submitted papers.

OSDC 2008 Sydney (Australia) - Key Program Dates:

30 Jun - Initial proposals (short abstract) due
21 Jul - Proposal acceptance
15 Sep - Accepted paper submissions
13 Oct - Reviews completed
27 Oct - Final paper submission cut-off

For all information, contacts and updates, see the OSDC conference
web site at http://osdc.com.au/2008/

Also if you are interested in sponsoring, please see:
http://www.osdc.com.au/2008/sponsors/opportunities.html

Regards

Mark Rees
OSDC 2008 Marketing Co-ordinator


From pjf at perltraining.com.au  Sat May 17 21:12:55 2008
From: pjf at perltraining.com.au (Paul Fenwick)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 14:12:55 +1000
Subject: [Canberra-pm] White Camel nominations are now open
Message-ID: <482FACC7.6000409@perltraining.com.au>

----------  Forwarded Message:  ----------

Subject: [pm_groups] White Camel nominations are now open
Date: Saturday 17 May 2008
From: "Jos? Castro" <jose at pm.org>

Every year, at OSCON, the White Camels are presented.

If you look at the previous winners [1], you'll notice that these are
mostly unsung heroes, like previous awardee Eric Cholet, the human
moderator of so many Perl mailing lists, or Jay Hannah, one of the
people running pm.org [2] (if you ever created/maintained a pm group,
chances are that Jay walked you through the process).

Some of these people may be well known, like Allison Randal or Randal
Schwartz, while others may be complete strangers to at least part of the
globe, like Josh McAdams or Jay. Some of them may be extreme Perl
hackers who created the original JAPH, but they actually received this
award as a recognition for their community contributions to Perl.

That's not to say a great hacker can't receive the award, but you don't
have to be one in order to be eligible.

That being said, the nomination process for the 2008 White Camels is now
open.

If you think there's someone who deserves a White Camel, this is the
time for you to send in your nominations. Send them to jose at pm.org, if
possible with a subject along the lines of "White Camel Nomination ::
$name". Make sure you properly identify the nominee and tell us why you
think that's a worthy nomination.

Don't go thinking "nah, somebody else will do it" because: a) everybody
else may be thinking the same, and b) you may state your case
differently than the next person.

We'll be receiving nominations until June 11, 2008, by midnight, but
don't wait up or you'll forget. Do it now!

Regards,

jac

PS: Please forward as you see fit.

  [1] - http://www.perl.org/advocacy/white_camel/
  [2] - http://pm.org/



-- Jos? Castro TPF Community Relations Leader
-------------------------------------------------------


From jarich at perltraining.com.au  Wed May 21 19:00:58 2008
From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 12:00:58 +1000
Subject: [Canberra-pm] Canberra PM is currently "missing"
Message-ID: <4834D3DA.8080402@perltraining.com.au>

G'day Michael and Canberra PM,

Canberra.pm is currently in the missing list:

	http://mag-sol.com/census2008/missing.cgi

I *think* this is because davorg hasn't had a response yet.  Michael, if you
haven't taken over group leadership yet, can you let us know where you are up
to?  If you're waiting on groups.pm.org can you send davorg a note at:
census at pm.org to let him know what's going on.

It'd be good not to lose Canberra PM now that there's so much interest in it.

	J

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From megamic at gmail.com  Fri May 23 03:28:01 2008
From: megamic at gmail.com (Michael Potter)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 20:28:01 +1000
Subject: [Canberra-pm] Meet-up announcement
Message-ID: <167f9c460805230328h162c50fgd9bd08d2143e1edd@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All

I have posted an announcement regarding the reactivation of Canberra.PM at
the wiki page over at: http://perl.net.au/wiki/Canberra_Perl_Mongers

I am calling for feedback from those interested in meeting up, particularly
where/when people are able to meet. I am suggesting a Thursday or Friday
night in Civic, something along the lines of dinner then find a quiet table
somewhere (the back-room in King O'Malleys works well), but Im open to
suggestions. Ideas people!

I would also like people who intend to come to start thinking about
answering these three questions, which we will share on the night:
1) What is a cool/fun/interesting thing you have done with Perl recently?
2) What aspect of Perl would you like to learn more about or improve in?
3) An idea for a group project (Optional)

Cheers
MP
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From jarich at perltraining.com.au  Fri May 23 04:18:24 2008
From: jarich at perltraining.com.au (Jacinta Richardson)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 21:18:24 +1000
Subject: [Canberra-pm] [Fwd: [clug] CLUG Programming SIG / Canberra.pm /
	PySIG project]
Message-ID: <4836A800.9060807@perltraining.com.au>

I never saw this get to the Canberra PM list, so I think it's awaiting
moderation.  Just forwarding it on in light of Michael's wiki post.



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [clug] CLUG Programming SIG / Canberra.pm / PySIG project
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 12:15:08 +1000
From: Paul Wayper <paulway at mabula.net>
Reply-To: paulway at mabula.net
To: Canberra Perl Mongers <canberra-pm at pm.org>, 	CLUG List <linux at lists.samba.org>
CC: Steve Walsh <Steve at nerdvana.org.au>, Paul Fenwick <pjf at perltraining.com.au>

Hi all,

At King O'Malley last night, the Guinness and the excellent company caused a
couple of things in my head to ferment together and germinate an idea.
There's been occasional talk of a Programming SIG project - something that we
can all work on individually or in small groups as a contribution to Open
Source and the free world.  This has also been talked about at the Python SIG
and from what I could tell amongst the Canberra Perl Mongers.

The basic precis is to work on a system that can be deployed for Linux Users
Groups that manages the basic chores such as sending out notices of meetings,
providing a website and mailing list, and so forth.  It would be designed as a
system that can either be deployed on a Linux Australia server or on a LUG's
own machine if they desire.  The project would allow people of all abilities
to work on various components and the mix of programming languages used in
existing projects to be meshed in with the LUG-in-a-box system would mean that
different programming groups could get involved.

There are already plans afoot in Linux Australia to work on this, so I don't
want to run ahead of more developed plans.  So start thinking about what ideas
you'd like to see in a larger LUG herding system and stay tuned!

Have fun,

Paul
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From megamic at gmail.com  Mon May 26 01:03:15 2008
From: megamic at gmail.com (Michael Potter)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:03:15 +1000
Subject: [Canberra-pm] New Canberra.PM administrator
Message-ID: <167f9c460805260103l33d9077djcee8e38a8e6da7f8@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All

I have finally been granted admin rights to the Canberra.PM mailing list.
This means, among other things, that I will be able to update the web page
and appoint moderators. If anyone wishes to become a moderator, please let
me know.

Cheers
MP
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