From jkeen at verizon.net  Fri Jul  2 17:21:40 2010
From: jkeen at verizon.net (James E Keenan)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 20:21:40 -0400
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] A Seriously OT Question
Message-ID: <AC152B91-378A-4E7A-AB76-944148F31CFE@verizon.net>

Let's suppose that someone is on a motor trip between upstate New  
York and Ontario, or perhaps between the Midwest and upstate New York.

Ms. Someone is therefore driving through or past Buffalo.

Ms. Someone is on a tight schedule, but is hungry.

Where are there locations where Ms. Someone can pull off the highway  
(I-90, I-190, Peace Bridge, etc.) and sample classic Buffalo cuisine?

Apart, say, from the Anchor Bar?

Someplace where Ms. Someone can, perhaps, get a nice beef on wick.

(I was in this position last week on my way back from YAPC but, alas,  
did not think of posing the question soon enough.)

kid51

From joshpauljohnson at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 18:00:16 2010
From: joshpauljohnson at gmail.com (Joshua Johnson)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 21:00:16 -0400
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] A Seriously OT Question
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimGolyASUWAkQMX8Vf4uWzrFUd6RrvelrgmXKAH@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AC152B91-378A-4E7A-AB76-944148F31CFE@verizon.net>
	<AANLkTimGolyASUWAkQMX8Vf4uWzrFUd6RrvelrgmXKAH@mail.gmail.com>
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Hands down. Schwabels. Best beef on weck. Not too far off the 90.

On Jul 2, 2010 8:21 PM, "James E Keenan" <jkeen at verizon.net> wrote:

Let's suppose that someone is on a motor trip between upstate New York and
Ontario, or perhaps between the Midwest and upstate New York.

Ms. Someone is therefore driving through or past Buffalo.

Ms. Someone is on a tight schedule, but is hungry.

Where are there locations where Ms. Someone can pull off the highway (I-90,
I-190, Peace Bridge, etc.) and sample classic Buffalo cuisine?

Apart, say, from the Anchor Bar?

Someplace where Ms. Someone can, perhaps, get a nice beef on wick.

(I was in this position last week on my way back from YAPC but, alas, did
not think of posing the question soon enough.)

kid51
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From ikeith at earthlink.net  Fri Jul  2 19:05:16 2010
From: ikeith at earthlink.net (keith tarbell)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 22:05:16 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] A Seriously OT Question
Message-ID: <6308434.1278122716329.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

The real problem is finding any venues for "classic Buffalo cuisine" that are still in business. Yes, Schwabel's, but their quality is inconsistent. Andersons is a local institution, but their beef-on-weck doesn't compare to Schwabel's at their best.

Anchor is under new management, but other's have improved on the concept (taking a throw-away part of the bird and making it something you would eat).  Pizza is not distinctly Buffalo cuisine, but there are local favorites (avoid most, but I like Bob and John's).

Best bet is to find a corner bar in a neighborhood that seems relatively safe and let them show you how it used to be. (Maybe someone can suggest one, since it's been a long time since I've been bar-hopping. I'm thinking South Buffalo or Black Rock.  Also, check out <www.buffalorising.com>, they review a lot of local eateries. )
</keith>


-----Original Message-----
>From: Joshua Johnson <joshpauljohnson at gmail.com>
>Sent: Jul 2, 2010 9:00 PM
>To: James E Keenan <jkeen at verizon.net>
>Cc: Buffalo Perl Mongers <buffalo-pm at pm.org>
>Subject: Re: [Buffalo-pm] A Seriously OT Question
>
>Hands down. Schwabels. Best beef on weck. Not too far off the 90.
>
>On Jul 2, 2010 8:21 PM, "James E Keenan" <jkeen at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>Let's suppose that someone is on a motor trip between upstate New York and
>Ontario, or perhaps between the Midwest and upstate New York.
>
>Ms. Someone is therefore driving through or past Buffalo.
>
>Ms. Someone is on a tight schedule, but is hungry.
>
>Where are there locations where Ms. Someone can pull off the highway (I-90,
>I-190, Peace Bridge, etc.) and sample classic Buffalo cuisine?
>
>Apart, say, from the Anchor Bar?
>
>Someplace where Ms. Someone can, perhaps, get a nice beef on wick.
>
>(I was in this position last week on my way back from YAPC but, alas, did
>not think of posing the question soon enough.)
>
>kid51
>_______________________________________________
>Buffalo Perl Mongers Homepage
>http://buffalo.pm.org
>
>Buffalo-pm mailing list
>Buffalo-pm at pm.org
>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm


From dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  2 20:55:19 2010
From: dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com (Daniel Magnuszewski)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 20:55:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] A Seriously OT Question
In-Reply-To: <6308434.1278122716329.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <6308434.1278122716329.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <601646.34007.qm@web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I was born in 1983, so I may not know about "Classic Buffalo" cuisine, but I'd actually point you to BuffaloChow:

http://buffalochow.com

I'd recommend:
Ulrich's Tavern (German Food), Pearl Street Brewery & Grill (American, with really good beers), Kentucky Gregs (BBQ), Ted's (Hot dogs), Duff's (Wings), Bocce Club (Pizza)

You'll have to give me a call next time you're passing through!

-Dan



----- Original Message ----
From: keith tarbell <ikeith at earthlink.net>
To: Joshua Johnson <joshpauljohnson at gmail.com>; James E Keenan <jkeen at verizon.net>
Cc: Buffalo Perl Mongers <buffalo-pm at pm.org>
Sent: Fri, July 2, 2010 10:05:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Buffalo-pm] A Seriously OT Question

The real problem is finding any venues for "classic Buffalo cuisine" that are still in business. Yes, Schwabel's, but their quality is inconsistent. Andersons is a local institution, but their beef-on-weck doesn't compare to Schwabel's at their best.

Anchor is under new management, but other's have improved on the concept (taking a throw-away part of the bird and making it something you would eat).  Pizza is not distinctly Buffalo cuisine, but there are local favorites (avoid most, but I like Bob and John's).

Best bet is to find a corner bar in a neighborhood that seems relatively safe and let them show you how it used to be. (Maybe someone can suggest one, since it's been a long time since I've been bar-hopping. I'm thinking South Buffalo or Black Rock.  Also, check out <www.buffalorising.com>, they review a lot of local eateries. )
</keith>


-----Original Message-----
>From: Joshua Johnson <joshpauljohnson at gmail.com>
>Sent: Jul 2, 2010 9:00 PM
>To: James E Keenan <jkeen at verizon.net>
>Cc: Buffalo Perl Mongers <buffalo-pm at pm.org>
>Subject: Re: [Buffalo-pm] A Seriously OT Question
>
>Hands down. Schwabels. Best beef on weck. Not too far off the 90.
>
>On Jul 2, 2010 8:21 PM, "James E Keenan" <jkeen at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>Let's suppose that someone is on a motor trip between upstate New York and
>Ontario, or perhaps between the Midwest and upstate New York.
>
>Ms. Someone is therefore driving through or past Buffalo.
>
>Ms. Someone is on a tight schedule, but is hungry.
>
>Where are there locations where Ms. Someone can pull off the highway (I-90,
>I-190, Peace Bridge, etc.) and sample classic Buffalo cuisine?
>
>Apart, say, from the Anchor Bar?
>
>Someplace where Ms. Someone can, perhaps, get a nice beef on wick.
>
>(I was in this position last week on my way back from YAPC but, alas, did
>not think of posing the question soon enough.)
>
>kid51
>_______________________________________________
>Buffalo Perl Mongers Homepage
>http://buffalo.pm.org
>
>Buffalo-pm mailing list
>Buffalo-pm at pm.org
>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm

_______________________________________________
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Buffalo-pm mailing list
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http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm


From joshpauljohnson at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 21:51:56 2010
From: joshpauljohnson at gmail.com (Joshua Johnson)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 00:51:56 -0400
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] A Seriously OT Question
In-Reply-To: <601646.34007.qm@web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <6308434.1278122716329.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<601646.34007.qm@web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilPjKl20rrLIh-4PVbdzDStdNdovDMgJ3bQnWd9@mail.gmail.com>

The thing with Buffalo that is both kind of a pain and kind of neat is that
it seems hard to find good places to eat unless you know someone who knows.
And I don't know much (I ask my neighbor a lot). But to add to the
collection here, I just stumbled upon Suzy Q's (BBQ):

http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=6324537023091688332&q=bbq+near+14223&gl=us&hl=en&cd=4&cad=src:pplink&ei=98AuTPLcCqTiyASfvPnVCA&sig2=nOmHN_QnvaD_y94N6-rWrw

-Josh

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Daniel Magnuszewski <
dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I was born in 1983, so I may not know about "Classic Buffalo" cuisine, but
> I'd actually point you to BuffaloChow:
>
> http://buffalochow.com
>
> I'd recommend:
> Ulrich's Tavern (German Food), Pearl Street Brewery & Grill (American, with
> really good beers), Kentucky Gregs (BBQ), Ted's (Hot dogs), Duff's (Wings),
> Bocce Club (Pizza)
>
> You'll have to give me a call next time you're passing through!
>
> -Dan
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: keith tarbell <ikeith at earthlink.net>
> To: Joshua Johnson <joshpauljohnson at gmail.com>; James E Keenan <
> jkeen at verizon.net>
> Cc: Buffalo Perl Mongers <buffalo-pm at pm.org>
> Sent: Fri, July 2, 2010 10:05:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Buffalo-pm] A Seriously OT Question
>
> The real problem is finding any venues for "classic Buffalo cuisine" that
> are still in business. Yes, Schwabel's, but their quality is inconsistent.
> Andersons is a local institution, but their beef-on-weck doesn't compare to
> Schwabel's at their best.
>
> Anchor is under new management, but other's have improved on the concept
> (taking a throw-away part of the bird and making it something you would
> eat).  Pizza is not distinctly Buffalo cuisine, but there are local
> favorites (avoid most, but I like Bob and John's).
>
> Best bet is to find a corner bar in a neighborhood that seems relatively
> safe and let them show you how it used to be. (Maybe someone can suggest
> one, since it's been a long time since I've been bar-hopping. I'm thinking
> South Buffalo or Black Rock.  Also, check out <www.buffalorising.com>,
> they review a lot of local eateries. )
> </keith>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Joshua Johnson <joshpauljohnson at gmail.com>
> >Sent: Jul 2, 2010 9:00 PM
> >To: James E Keenan <jkeen at verizon.net>
> >Cc: Buffalo Perl Mongers <buffalo-pm at pm.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Buffalo-pm] A Seriously OT Question
> >
> >Hands down. Schwabels. Best beef on weck. Not too far off the 90.
> >
> >On Jul 2, 2010 8:21 PM, "James E Keenan" <jkeen at verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >Let's suppose that someone is on a motor trip between upstate New York and
> >Ontario, or perhaps between the Midwest and upstate New York.
> >
> >Ms. Someone is therefore driving through or past Buffalo.
> >
> >Ms. Someone is on a tight schedule, but is hungry.
> >
> >Where are there locations where Ms. Someone can pull off the highway
> (I-90,
> >I-190, Peace Bridge, etc.) and sample classic Buffalo cuisine?
> >
> >Apart, say, from the Anchor Bar?
> >
> >Someplace where Ms. Someone can, perhaps, get a nice beef on wick.
> >
> >(I was in this position last week on my way back from YAPC but, alas, did
> >not think of posing the question soon enough.)
> >
> >kid51
> >_______________________________________________
> >Buffalo Perl Mongers Homepage
> >http://buffalo.pm.org
> >
> >Buffalo-pm mailing list
> >Buffalo-pm at pm.org
> >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://buffalo.pm.org
>
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From dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  6 18:58:56 2010
From: dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com (Daniel Magnuszewski)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 18:58:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] blogs.perl.org
Message-ID: <385245.50560.qm@web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mongers,

Many of you probably remember use.perl.org, which has essentially disappeared 
into obscurity, for Perl related blogging. Not sure how many of you are aware of 
blogs.perl.org which is taking the place of use.perl.org. I'd encourage you all 
to sign up and start blogging/commenting.

-Dan

From jkeen at verizon.net  Tue Jul  6 19:17:29 2010
From: jkeen at verizon.net (James E Keenan)
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 22:17:29 -0400
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] blogs.perl.org
In-Reply-To: <385245.50560.qm@web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <385245.50560.qm@web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <209A6E47-C6EB-4929-A74C-037ABC57952D@verizon.net>


On Jul 6, 2010, at 9:58 PM, Daniel Magnuszewski wrote:

>
> Many of you probably remember use.perl.org, which has essentially  
> disappeared
> into obscurity, for Perl related blogging.

I think it's somewhat of an exaggeration to claim that use.perl.org  
has "disappeared into obscurity."  Certainly, it is not very well  
maintained; its front page, in particular, has often seemed untended  
as of late.  (Currently the most recent front page article is one  
posted on May 23.)

However, I do find that its "Recent Journals" pane is very useful.   
Many people who blog elsewhere cross-post to use.perl.org.  Consider  
Patrick Michaud's recent post about Rakudo* and its July 29 release:   
http://use.perl.org/~pmichaud/journal/.

I think use.perl.org is also useful for people like me who blog only  
infrequently.  It means I don't have to set up my own blogging site  
or learn yet another blogging or wiki format.  I don't want to  
discourage people from using blogs.perl.org.  It's just that it's not  
the only game in town.

Frankly, it would be better if the management of use.perl.org were  
transferred to someone other than the current maintainer(s) so that  
it could be given a good facelift.

kid51

From magnachef at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 20:23:22 2010
From: magnachef at gmail.com (Dan Magnuszewski)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 23:23:22 -0400
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] blogs.perl.org
In-Reply-To: <209A6E47-C6EB-4929-A74C-037ABC57952D@verizon.net>
References: <385245.50560.qm@web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<209A6E47-C6EB-4929-A74C-037ABC57952D@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin-tr5eEQoZd06SKUg1lWiyyVHoBwOQqZ2JIMHq@mail.gmail.com>

The Perl Foundation has tried to get use.perl.org updated, but the people in
charge didn't have the time or will to actually make it happen. David Cross
and a bunch of other volunteers decided to take action and setup another
blogging site that had a look and feel that was newer than 1998. The
marketing people at TPF are trying to get all of these website owners to at
least give facelifts to their pages. It's bad PR when you're trying to sell
all your great web frameworks on a page that looks like, www.cpan.org (for
example). I know Randal Schwartz has decided to do his Perl blogging on
blogs.perl.org. Either way, I prefer a central Perl blogging location and
hopefully people will fully commit to one or the other.

-Dan

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:17 PM, James E Keenan <jkeen at verizon.net> wrote:

>
> On Jul 6, 2010, at 9:58 PM, Daniel Magnuszewski wrote:
>
>
>> Many of you probably remember use.perl.org, which has essentially
>> disappeared
>> into obscurity, for Perl related blogging.
>>
>
> I think it's somewhat of an exaggeration to claim that use.perl.org has
> "disappeared into obscurity."  Certainly, it is not very well maintained;
> its front page, in particular, has often seemed untended as of late.
>  (Currently the most recent front page article is one posted on May 23.)
>
> However, I do find that its "Recent Journals" pane is very useful.  Many
> people who blog elsewhere cross-post to use.perl.org.  Consider Patrick
> Michaud's recent post about Rakudo* and its July 29 release:
> http://use.perl.org/~pmichaud/journal/.
>
> I think use.perl.org is also useful for people like me who blog only
> infrequently.  It means I don't have to set up my own blogging site or learn
> yet another blogging or wiki format.  I don't want to discourage people from
> using blogs.perl.org.  It's just that it's not the only game in town.
>
> Frankly, it would be better if the management of use.perl.org were
> transferred to someone other than the current maintainer(s) so that it could
> be given a good facelift.
>
> kid51
>
> _______________________________________________
> Buffalo Perl Mongers Homepage
> http://buffalo.pm.org
>
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From magnachef at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 20:43:02 2010
From: magnachef at gmail.com (Dan Magnuszewski)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 23:43:02 -0400
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] blogs.perl.org
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin-tr5eEQoZd06SKUg1lWiyyVHoBwOQqZ2JIMHq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <385245.50560.qm@web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<209A6E47-C6EB-4929-A74C-037ABC57952D@verizon.net>
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>
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:17 PM, James E Keenan <jkeen at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jul 6, 2010, at 9:58 PM, Daniel Magnuszewski wrote:
>>
>> Many of you probably remember use.perl.org, which has essentially
>>> disappeared
>>> into obscurity, for Perl related blogging.
>>>
>>
>> I think it's somewhat of an exaggeration to claim that use.perl.org has
>> "disappeared into obscurity."  Certainly, it is not very well maintained;
>> its front page, in particular, has often seemed untended as of late.
>>  (Currently the most recent front page article is one posted on May 23.)
>>
>>
BTW, I will agree that it is somewhat of an exaggeration, but there's some
truth to it :-)


> However, I do find that its "Recent Journals" pane is very useful.  Many
>> people who blog elsewhere cross-post to use.perl.org.  Consider Patrick
>> Michaud's recent post about Rakudo* and its July 29 release:
>> http://use.perl.org/~pmichaud/journal/.
>>
>>
This part of use.perl.org is still updated, but IMHO, I would actually
prefer to see this up on blog.perl.org. The markup really isn't that bad and
is pretty easy to get used to.

-Dan

-Dan
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From dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 12 12:31:10 2010
From: dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com (Daniel Magnuszewski)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 12:31:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] OT - Buffalo OpenCoffee Meeting Tomorrow Morning (July
	13th)
Message-ID: <572968.99699.qm@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Buffalo OpenCoffee is having a meetup tomorrow (and every Tuesday). We meet, 
network, discuss stuff in tech, talk geek, learn about we're all interested in 
and working on, etc. 

7:30am til 9am -- show anytime between then, it's casual. At Panaro's 
Restaurant [at corner of Allen & Delaware Ave -- on Delaware Ave between Colter 
Bay and Tempo] 571 Delaware Ave, Buffalo, NY 14202

You can park on Delaware Ave or on Allen St -- bring some quarters. Breakfast 
sandwiches are $4 each... bottomless coffee is $1. If you're craving sweets, 
next door at the gas/convenience store are donuts/yogurt/fruit.

Google Group:
http://groups.google.com/group/buffalo-opencoffee-club

Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=lf#!/group.php?gid=126688050693987&ref=ts

-Dan


From magnachef at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 12:16:29 2010
From: magnachef at gmail.com (Dan Magnuszewski)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:16:29 -0400
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Fwd: Help with 2 Buffalo Perl Jobs
In-Reply-To: <008701cb29bd$d0f1b3d0$72d51b70$@com>
References: <008701cb29bd$d0f1b3d0$72d51b70$@com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikgVCBt82bD3fDwU5HL1vG960Lbg0L7Jg1FbNX1@mail.gmail.com>

If you or someone you know of is looking for a job...

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Dawn Noworyta <dnoworyta at psi4jobs.com>
Date: Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:49 PM
Subject: Help with 2 Buffalo Perl Jobs
To: magnachef at gmail.com

Hi Dan, how are you?  I work with Professional Support, Inc. (PSI).  We
specialize in IT staffing.  I am not looking to recruit you because I can
see from your LinkedIn profile that you work at Synacor as their lead.
However, I came across Perl Mongers and wanted to reach out to you about the
group.

I thought you might know if any of your members of Perl Mongers are looking
for work.  I have two positions open right now for permanent jobs in
Buffalo.  One company is looking for a strong developer who has programming
skills that wants to work in Perl or PHP or Java or Coldfusion, etc. (they
they will train the right person in their languages if the person has w/2
yrs of experience in programming in general and has a CS degree).  The other
client is looking for a 2-4 year programmer that has skills in PHP and/or
Perl, but the job will likely be a majority of straight Perl development.

Both are permanent and with excellent companies.  If you know of any of your
members that are looking for work, please feel free to pass this message
along to them.  I would be glad to discuss these openings with them to see
if they?re a fit. If not, but they are indeed looking, I am happy to be a
resource for him or her in the future. Thanks for your help!


Best regards,

Dawn M. Noworyta

Professional Support, Inc.

26 North Cayuga Road

Williamsville, NY  14221

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From dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 26 14:25:49 2010
From: dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com (Daniel Magnuszewski)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:25:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Desperate Perl vs. Modern Perl
Message-ID: <294641.97980.qm@web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

All,

The Perl community has been pushing greatly to get more people writing "Modern 
Perl" - essentially using the best that Perl has to offer and doing so in a 
maintainable way. Desperate Perl is essentially the poorly written, 
unmaintainable line noise that gives Perl a bad name. 


The past few days have generated some very nice blog posts on the subject.

http://www.bofh.org.uk/2010/07/25/a-tale-of-two-languages

http://www.modernperlbooks.com/mt/2010/07/a-checklist-for-writing-maintainable-perl.html


-Dan


From dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 28 22:36:43 2010
From: dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com (Daniel Magnuszewski)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:36:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Rakudo Perl 6 Star
Message-ID: <370782.90246.qm@web33301.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Rakudo Perl 6 Star is coming out today. If you'd like to get a taste of what you 
can do with Perl 6, and how it differs from Perl 5, check out Gabor's 
screencasts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp8E6OiFlEM&feature=related

-Dan


From dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 29 08:32:07 2010
From: dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com (Daniel Magnuszewski)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:32:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Rakudo Star - a useful, usable,
	"early adopter" distribution of Perl 6
Message-ID: <709409.69121.qm@web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

FYI

----

On behalf of the Rakudo and Perl 6 development teams, I'm happy to
announce the July 2010 release of "Rakudo Star", a useful and usable
distribution of Perl 6.  The tarball for the July 2010 release is
available from <http://github.com/rakudo/star/downloads>.

Rakudo Star is aimed at "early adopters" of Perl 6.  We know that
it still has some bugs, it is far slower than it ought to be, and
there are some advanced pieces of the Perl 6 language specification
that aren't implemented yet.  But Rakudo Perl 6 in its current form
is also proving to be viable (and fun) for developing applications
and exploring a great new language.  These "Star" releases are
intended to make Perl 6 more widely available to programmers, grow
the Perl 6 codebase, and gain additional end-user feedback about the
Perl 6 language and Rakudo's implementation of it.

In the Perl 6 world, we make a distinction between the language 
("Perl 6") and specific implementations of the language such as
"Rakudo Perl".  "Rakudo Star" is a distribution that includes
release #31 of the Rakudo Perl 6 compiler [1], version 2.6.0 of
the Parrot Virtual Machine [2], and various modules, documentation,
and other resources collected from the Perl 6 community.  We
plan to make Rakudo Star releases on a monthly schedule, with
occasional special releases in response to important bugfixes or
changes.

Some of the many cool Perl 6 features that are available in this
release of Rakudo Star:
  * Perl 6 grammars and regexes
  * formal parameter lists and signatures
  * metaoperators
  * gradual typing
  * a powerful object model, including roles and classes
  * lazy list evaluation
  * multiple dispatch
  * smart matching
  * junctions and autothreading
  * operator overloading (limited forms for now)
  * introspection
  * currying
  * a rich library of builtin operators, functions, and types
  * an interactive read-evaluation-print loop
  * Unicode at the codepoint level
  * resumable exceptions

There are some key features of Perl 6 that Rakudo Star does not
yet handle appropriately, although they will appear in upcoming
releases.  Thus, we do not consider Rakudo Star to be a
"Perl 6.0.0" or "1.0" release.  Some of the not-quite-there
features include:
  * nested package definitions
  * binary objects, native types, pack and unpack
  * typed arrays
  * macros
  * state variables
  * threads and concurrency
  * Unicode strings at levels other than codepoints
  * pre and post constraints, and some other phasers
  * interactive readline that understands Unicode
  * backslash escapes in regex <[...]> character classes
  * non-blocking I/O
  * most of Synopsis 9
  * perl6doc or pod manipulation tools

In many places we've tried to make Rakudo smart enough to inform the
programmer that a given feature isn't implemented, but there are
many that we've missed.  Bug reports about missing and broken
features are welcomed.

See http://perl6.org/ for links to much more information about 
Perl 6, including documentation, example code, tutorials, reference
materials, specification documents, and other supporting resources.

Rakudo Star also bundles a number of modules; a partial list of
the modules provided by this release include:
  * Blizkost
      - enables some Perl 5 modules to be used from within Rakudo Perl 6
  * MiniDBI
      - a simple database interface for Rakudo Perl 6
  * Zavolaj
      - call C library functions from Rakudo Perl 6
  * SVG and SVG::Plot
      - create scalable vector graphics
  * HTTP::Daemon
      - a simple HTTP server
  * XML::Writer
      - generate XML
  * YAML
      - dump Perl 6 objects as YAML
  * Term::ANSIColor
      - color screen output using ANSI escape sequences
  * Test::Mock
      - create mock objects and check what methods were called
  * Math::Model
      - describe and run mathematical models
  * Config::INI
      - parse and write configuration files
  * File::Find
      - find files in a given directory
  * LWP::Simple
      - fetch resources from the web

These are not considered "core Perl 6 modules", and as module
development for Perl 6 continues to mature, future releases
of Rakudo Star will likely come bundled with a different set
of modules. Deprecation policies for bundled modules will be
created over time, and other Perl 6 distributions may choose
different sets of modules or policies.  More information about
Perl 6 modules can be found at http://modules.perl6.org/.

Rakudo Star also contains a draft of a Perl 6 book -- see 
<docs/UsingPerl6-draft.pdf> in the release tarball.

The development team thanks all of the contributors and sponsors
for making Rakudo Star possible.  If you would like to contribute,
see <http://rakudo.org/how-to-help>, ask on the perl6-compiler at perl.org
mailing list, or join us on IRC #perl6 on freenode.

Rakudo Star releases are created on a monthly cycle or as needed
in response to important bug fixes or improvements.  The next planned 
release of Rakudo Star will be on August 24, 2010.

[1] http://github.com/rakudo/rakudo
[2] http://parrot.org/