From magnachef at gmail.com  Fri Nov  2 08:59:20 2007
From: magnachef at gmail.com (Dan Magnuszewski)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:59:20 -0400
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] November Meeting :: Introduction To Parrot
Message-ID: <cd66f9fd0711020859u62c9618oa46fbc4e24a20a32@mail.gmail.com>

Mongers,

I've been slacking for long enough...Time for another meeting! I'd
like to give an introductory (crash course) talk on Parrot
(http://www.parrotcode.org).

I'd like to have this meeting on November 15th, to avoid the
Thanksgiving week. Kevin, can you see if we can get the room for 7 PM
on Nov 15th? More details will follow...

-Dan

From phil at turboschedule.com  Fri Nov  2 07:37:23 2007
From: phil at turboschedule.com (phil)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:37:23 +0000
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Parrot...hmm..What about Perl6
Message-ID: <200711021437.24025.phil@turboschedule.com>

Hi,
 
 Does anyone know when Perl6 will be available?
 Is it still being worked on?

-Phil

From ikeith at earthlink.net  Fri Nov  2 16:05:00 2007
From: ikeith at earthlink.net (keith tarbell)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 18:05:00 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] agenda item Re: November Meeting :: Introduction To
 Parrot
Message-ID: <27146970.1194044700417.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Dan -
Could we also revisit the issue of a locally developed open source project?  The response to my CRM proposal was rather limited (Thanks, Jim).  Of course, it was summer time ....

So maybe 10-15 minutes to discuss other possible projects?

Also, I'd like to poll the Buffalo-pm list members to find out the degree of interest in such a project, any project. Please reply to me with some kind of response (OK, I know that was the wrong thing to ask for!), something like "Yeah, yeah, I'm interested, sign me up" or "Naw, don't care" or anything that would indicate your level of interest or disinterest.  And for all the non-responders, you'll be counted as "Not interested."

</keith>


-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan Magnuszewski <magnachef at gmail.com>
>Sent: Nov 2, 2007 10:59 AM
>To: buffalo-pm <buffalo-pm at mail.pm.org>
>Subject: [Buffalo-pm] November Meeting :: Introduction To Parrot
>
>Mongers,
>
>I've been slacking for long enough...Time for another meeting! I'd
>like to give an introductory (crash course) talk on Parrot
>(http://www.parrotcode.org).
>
>I'd like to have this meeting on November 15th, to avoid the
>Thanksgiving week. Kevin, can you see if we can get the room for 7 PM
>on Nov 15th? More details will follow...
>
>-Dan
>_______________________________________________
>Buffalo Perl Mongers Homepage
>http://buffalo.pm.org
>
>Buffalo-pm mailing list
>Buffalo-pm at pm.org
>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm


From dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com  Fri Nov  2 16:24:07 2007
From: dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com (Daniel Magnuszewski)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 16:24:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Parrot...hmm..What about Perl6
Message-ID: <212252.55723.qm@web33315.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It'll be out before Christmas...what the year will be is a different story ;-P

Yes, it is being very actively worked on and Parrot is part of the process. I guess I can add some time at the next meeting to give a high level update of where Perl 6 stands and where it needs to go.

For more information, check out: 

http://dev.perl.org/perl6/

-Dan

----- Original Message ----
From: phil <phil at turboschedule.com>
To: buffalo-pm <buffalo-pm at mail.pm.org>
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2007 10:37:23 AM
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Parrot...hmm..What about Perl6


Hi,
 
 Does anyone know when Perl6 will be available?
 Is it still being worked on?

-Phil
_______________________________________________
Buffalo Perl Mongers Homepage
http://buffalo.pm.org

Buffalo-pm mailing list
Buffalo-pm at pm.org
http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm




From jkeen at verizon.net  Fri Nov  2 17:12:21 2007
From: jkeen at verizon.net (James E Keenan)
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:12:21 -0400
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Parrot...hmm..What about Perl6
In-Reply-To: <200711021437.24025.phil@turboschedule.com>
References: <200711021437.24025.phil@turboschedule.com>
Message-ID: <38CCD617-78D1-4477-ABE3-200FFF58501B@verizon.net>


On Nov 2, 2007, at 10:37 AM, phil wrote:

>
>  Does anyone know when Perl6 will be available?
>  Is it still being worked on?

http://tinyurl.com/3ckqcx



From cbrandt at buffalo.edu  Mon Nov  5 05:04:07 2007
From: cbrandt at buffalo.edu (Jim Brandt)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 08:04:07 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Parrot...hmm..What about Perl6
In-Reply-To: <38CCD617-78D1-4477-ABE3-200FFF58501B@verizon.net>
References: <200711021437.24025.phil@turboschedule.com>
	<38CCD617-78D1-4477-ABE3-200FFF58501B@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <472F14C7.5000001@buffalo.edu>

Very nice reference.

However, unlike the long car ride, on this trip you actually can get out 
and push and help things along. :)

James E Keenan wrote:
> On Nov 2, 2007, at 10:37 AM, phil wrote:
> 
>>  Does anyone know when Perl6 will be available?
>>  Is it still being worked on?
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/3ckqcx
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Buffalo Perl Mongers Homepage
> http://buffalo.pm.org
> 
> Buffalo-pm mailing list
> Buffalo-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm

-- 
Jim Brandt
Administrative Computing Services
University at Buffalo


From jkeen at verizon.net  Mon Nov  5 15:48:39 2007
From: jkeen at verizon.net (James E Keenan)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:48:39 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Parrot...hmm..What about Perl6
In-Reply-To: <472F14C7.5000001@buffalo.edu>
References: <200711021437.24025.phil@turboschedule.com>
	<38CCD617-78D1-4477-ABE3-200FFF58501B@verizon.net>
	<472F14C7.5000001@buffalo.edu>
Message-ID: <77426E7F-AEA8-4015-8AF2-AAAB8F25C0C3@verizon.net>


On Nov 5, 2007, at 8:04 AM, Jim Brandt wrote:

> Very nice reference.
>

I couldn't resist.  Garrison Keillor read that poem on the radio just  
minutes after I opened the email.

> However, unlike the long car ride, on this trip you actually can  
> get out and push and help things along. :)
>


And kudos to Dan 'magnachef' of Buffalo.pm for his first patch  
accepted to Parrot today!

jimk

From magnachef at gmail.com  Tue Nov  6 12:04:47 2007
From: magnachef at gmail.com (Dan Magnuszewski)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 15:04:47 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Embedded Database Talk - Slides Posted (FINALLY!)
Message-ID: <cd66f9fd0711061204t5cdd9c02ydc76fa8a75cfdd47@mail.gmail.com>

I finally stopped slacking, and posted the slides from Ben's Embedded
Database talk to the website.

http://buffalo.pm.org/#meet

From phil at turboschedule.com  Thu Nov  8 02:37:09 2007
From: phil at turboschedule.com (phil)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:37:09 +0000
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Parrot...hmm..What about Perl6
In-Reply-To: <77426E7F-AEA8-4015-8AF2-AAAB8F25C0C3@verizon.net>
References: <200711021437.24025.phil@turboschedule.com>
	<472F14C7.5000001@buffalo.edu>
	<77426E7F-AEA8-4015-8AF2-AAAB8F25C0C3@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <200711081037.09282.phil@turboschedule.com>

 I asked Damian Conway about the status of Perl6.
I was encouraged by his reply (cf, below).

-Phil
-----------------------------------------------------------
In part, Damian said:

 Perl 6 is very much alive.

We're working very hard on at least three parallel implementation 
efforts, which are feeding off each other. We also have a complete grammar for 
Perl 6 specified (in Perl 6 itself!) so we're moving much closer to having a 
full interpreter for the language.



From rdice at pobox.com  Thu Nov  8 07:08:09 2007
From: rdice at pobox.com (Richard Dice)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:08:09 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Parrot...hmm..What about Perl6
In-Reply-To: <200711081037.09282.phil@turboschedule.com>
References: <200711021437.24025.phil@turboschedule.com>
	<472F14C7.5000001@buffalo.edu>
	<77426E7F-AEA8-4015-8AF2-AAAB8F25C0C3@verizon.net>
	<200711081037.09282.phil@turboschedule.com>
Message-ID: <5bef4baf0711080708u478955d0i84a813b2c4ffff7b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Phil,

I was wondering, do you have a specific interest in when Perl 6 will be
released, or was this more of a curiosity-driven question?

Cheers,
Richard

On Nov 8, 2007 5:37 AM, phil <phil at turboschedule.com> wrote:

>  I asked Damian Conway about the status of Perl6.
> I was encouraged by his reply (cf, below).
>
> -Phil
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> In part, Damian said:
>
>  Perl 6 is very much alive.
>
> We're working very hard on at least three parallel implementation
> efforts, which are feeding off each other. We also have a complete grammar
> for
> Perl 6 specified (in Perl 6 itself!) so we're moving much closer to having
> a
> full interpreter for the language.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Buffalo Perl Mongers Homepage
> http://buffalo.pm.org
>
> Buffalo-pm mailing list
> Buffalo-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm
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From jkeen at verizon.net  Thu Nov  8 11:39:12 2007
From: jkeen at verizon.net (Jim Keenan)
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:39:12 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Buffalo-pm]  Parrot...hmm..What about Perl6
Message-ID: <16401434.4523221194550752938.JavaMail.root@vms226.mailsrvcs.net>

And, although it is a year old, the info in this talk by Larry is still informative:

http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2006/09/21/onion.html

(... which makes me wonder why I can't find a link to the 2007 State of the Onion ??)

jimk

From magnachef at gmail.com  Thu Nov  8 14:46:58 2007
From: magnachef at gmail.com (Dan Magnuszewski)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 17:46:58 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Parrot...hmm..What about Perl6
In-Reply-To: <16401434.4523221194550752938.JavaMail.root@vms226.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <16401434.4523221194550752938.JavaMail.root@vms226.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <cd66f9fd0711081446t374ecefcl9806fdceb7992da3@mail.gmail.com>

Here's something I stumbled across today in my Google Reader:

http://perlbuzz.com/2007/11/perl-foundation-and-mozilla-foundation-team-up-for.html

From phil at turboschedule.com  Mon Nov 12 06:52:42 2007
From: phil at turboschedule.com (phil)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:52:42 +0000
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Parrot...hmm..What about Perl6
In-Reply-To: <5bef4baf0711080708u478955d0i84a813b2c4ffff7b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200711021437.24025.phil@turboschedule.com>
	<200711081037.09282.phil@turboschedule.com>
	<5bef4baf0711080708u478955d0i84a813b2c4ffff7b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200711121452.42858.phil@turboschedule.com>

Hi Richard,
 
 I'd like Perl6 to be available as soon as possible.

The 'cleaner' syntax, curried functions and prototyping of Perl6 are of 
interest to me.

 Some of the 'esoteric' featues like macros that can modify
the AST  or changing the Perl6 grammar (like Acme::Dot or overload)  are also 
interesting. Not sure how useful they would be though (cf, Damian's paper on 
OO in Perl)

 I'd like better performance than Perl5 and I guess this is where Parrot's 
optimized JIT comes in. My cursory look at the performance of the
various Perl(s) (cf, http://www.sidhe.org/~timeparrot/graphs/A/) indicates
that the Parrot optimized JIT is promising.

 
-Phil

On Thursday 08 November 2007 03:08 pm, Richard Dice wrote:
> Hi Phil,
>
> I was wondering, do you have a specific interest in when Perl 6 will be
> released, or was this more of a curiosity-driven question?
>
> Cheers,
> Richard
>
> On Nov 8, 2007 5:37 AM, phil <phil at turboschedule.com> wrote:
> >  I asked Damian Conway about the status of Perl6.
> > I was encouraged by his reply (cf, below).
> >
> > -Phil
> > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > In part, Damian said:
> >
> >  Perl 6 is very much alive.
> >
> > We're working very hard on at least three parallel implementation
> > efforts, which are feeding off each other. We also have a complete
> > grammar for
> > Perl 6 specified (in Perl 6 itself!) so we're moving much closer to
> > having a
> > full interpreter for the language.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Buffalo Perl Mongers Homepage
> > http://buffalo.pm.org
> >
> > Buffalo-pm mailing list
> > Buffalo-pm at pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm


From rdice at pobox.com  Mon Nov 12 11:10:29 2007
From: rdice at pobox.com (Richard Dice)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:10:29 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Parrot...hmm..What about Perl6
In-Reply-To: <200711121452.42858.phil@turboschedule.com>
References: <200711021437.24025.phil@turboschedule.com>
	<200711081037.09282.phil@turboschedule.com>
	<5bef4baf0711080708u478955d0i84a813b2c4ffff7b@mail.gmail.com>
	<200711121452.42858.phil@turboschedule.com>
Message-ID: <5bef4baf0711121110m42e11d52sf1d30cb1c0f05299@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Phil,

I agree, Perl 6 has the promise to be a really great programming language.

The various people and teams of people who are currently working to
implement Perl 6 are working on it as much as they reasonably (or in many
cases, unreasonably) can, especially given that it is a volunteer effort.

You can join that effort.  Volunteers are welcome, needed, and make a big
difference.  For instance, of the people I know who are on this list, Jim
Keenan is a very committed volunteer.  Maybe you could talk to him about
ways you can make a difference too?

Cheers,
Richard

On Nov 12, 2007 9:52 AM, phil <phil at turboschedule.com> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
>  I'd like Perl6 to be available as soon as possible.
>
> The 'cleaner' syntax, curried functions and prototyping of Perl6 are of
> interest to me.
>
>  Some of the 'esoteric' featues like macros that can modify
> the AST  or changing the Perl6 grammar (like Acme::Dot or overload)  are
> also
> interesting. Not sure how useful they would be though (cf, Damian's paper
> on
> OO in Perl)
>
>  I'd like better performance than Perl5 and I guess this is where Parrot's
> optimized JIT comes in. My cursory look at the performance of the
> various Perl(s) (cf, http://www.sidhe.org/~timeparrot/graphs/A/<http://www.sidhe.org/%7Etimeparrot/graphs/A/>)
> indicates
> that the Parrot optimized JIT is promising.
>
>
> -Phil
>
> On Thursday 08 November 2007 03:08 pm, Richard Dice wrote:
> > Hi Phil,
> >
> > I was wondering, do you have a specific interest in when Perl 6 will be
> > released, or was this more of a curiosity-driven question?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Richard
> >
> > On Nov 8, 2007 5:37 AM, phil <phil at turboschedule.com> wrote:
> > >  I asked Damian Conway about the status of Perl6.
> > > I was encouraged by his reply (cf, below).
> > >
> > > -Phil
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > > In part, Damian said:
> > >
> > >  Perl 6 is very much alive.
> > >
> > > We're working very hard on at least three parallel implementation
> > > efforts, which are feeding off each other. We also have a complete
> > > grammar for
> > > Perl 6 specified (in Perl 6 itself!) so we're moving much closer to
> > > having a
> > > full interpreter for the language.
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Buffalo Perl Mongers Homepage
> > > http://buffalo.pm.org
> > >
> > > Buffalo-pm mailing list
> > > Buffalo-pm at pm.org
> > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm
>
>
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From jkeen at verizon.net  Mon Nov 12 15:26:00 2007
From: jkeen at verizon.net (James E Keenan)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:26:00 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Parrot...hmm..What about Perl6
In-Reply-To: <5bef4baf0711121110m42e11d52sf1d30cb1c0f05299@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200711021437.24025.phil@turboschedule.com>
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	<5bef4baf0711121110m42e11d52sf1d30cb1c0f05299@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AEB9B5C8-82C0-4969-91EF-BA03616DB6F9@verizon.net>


On Nov 12, 2007, at 2:10 PM, Richard Dice wrote:

> Hi Phil,
>
> You can join that effort.  Volunteers are welcome, needed, and make  
> a big difference.

I agree.

> For instance, of the people I know who are on this list, Jim Keenan  
> is a very committed volunteer.

I agree with that too ;-)

> Maybe you could talk to him about ways you can make a difference too?
>

However, I should note that the project where I'm most heavily  
involved is Parrot, the virtual machine which will underlie Perl 6.   
I'm not involved with Perl 6 itself and can't speak authoritatively  
about its development.  Based on his subsequent post, my guess is  
that his main interest lies in Perl 6.  I would recommend that he  
post on perl6porters about his interests and see how they can work  
him into that project.

jimk

From rdice at pobox.com  Mon Nov 12 15:52:43 2007
From: rdice at pobox.com (Richard Dice)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:52:43 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Parrot...hmm..What about Perl6
In-Reply-To: <AEB9B5C8-82C0-4969-91EF-BA03616DB6F9@verizon.net>
References: <200711021437.24025.phil@turboschedule.com>
	<200711081037.09282.phil@turboschedule.com>
	<5bef4baf0711080708u478955d0i84a813b2c4ffff7b@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <5bef4baf0711121552n685fefaalb6d063de044dffb9@mail.gmail.com>

Jim,

You make a good distinction between Parrot and Perl 6.  I would like to
point out that one of the most promising routes to eventual full
implementation of Perl 6 is on a Parrot engine, and so help for Parrot is
likely going to directly speed the progress of Perl 6.

Beyond that, there are aspects of Perl 6 implementation that are closely
related to Parrot development;  namely, PCT (the "parrot compiler
toolchain") and NQP ("not quite perl").   NQP could be the most
closely-related project to Phil's interests.  That is, it is a strict subset
of Perl 6 within the PCT that provides enough of the language that not-yet
implemented elements of Perl 6 (on Parrot) can be implemented with NQP!

It's a great way to gain practice in Perl 6 while at the same time helping
bring Perl 6 closer to reality.  Phil, you game?

Cheers,
Richard

On Nov 12, 2007 6:26 PM, James E Keenan <jkeen at verizon.net> wrote:

>
> On Nov 12, 2007, at 2:10 PM, Richard Dice wrote:
>
> > Hi Phil,
> >
> > You can join that effort.  Volunteers are welcome, needed, and make
> > a big difference.
>
> I agree.
>
> > For instance, of the people I know who are on this list, Jim Keenan
> > is a very committed volunteer.
>
> I agree with that too ;-)
>
> > Maybe you could talk to him about ways you can make a difference too?
> >
>
> However, I should note that the project where I'm most heavily
> involved is Parrot, the virtual machine which will underlie Perl 6.
> I'm not involved with Perl 6 itself and can't speak authoritatively
> about its development.  Based on his subsequent post, my guess is
> that his main interest lies in Perl 6.  I would recommend that he
> post on perl6porters about his interests and see how they can work
> him into that project.
>
> jimk
>
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From magnachef at gmail.com  Wed Nov 14 12:54:45 2007
From: magnachef at gmail.com (Dan Magnuszewski)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:54:45 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Reminder :: November Meeting Tomorrow :: Introduction
	To Parrot
Message-ID: <cd66f9fd0711141254p22508221o31ba779bfbed6195@mail.gmail.com>

Mongers,

Just a reminder that we will be having our meeting tomorrow at 7PM in
Bell 242 (UB North Campus). Check out the website for directions and
more details

http://buffalo.pm.org/#meet

See you tomorrow!

-Dan

From KBernas at synacor.com  Thu Nov 15 07:29:33 2007
From: KBernas at synacor.com (Kiki Bernas)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:29:33 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Synacor Perl/PHP Programming Opportunities!!
Message-ID: <3E14D87BEECB554DB0D4CF560FA9E5CA0129466A@syncorpmail.synbuf.local>

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If you are interested in learning more about this and other exciting
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<http://www.synacor.com/careers>  

 

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From dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com  Thu Nov 15 09:51:14 2007
From: dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com (Daniel Magnuszewski)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:51:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Reminder :: November Meeting is Today :: Introduction
	To Parrot
Message-ID: <521062.96080.qm@web33310.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mongers,

Just a reminder that we will be having our meeting Today at 7PM in
Bell 242 (UB North Campus). Check out the website for directions and
more details

http://buffalo.pm.org/#meet


-Dan






From bennymack at gmail.com  Fri Nov 16 10:28:27 2007
From: bennymack at gmail.com (Ben. B.)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:28:27 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Parrot...hmm..What about Perl6
In-Reply-To: <5bef4baf0711121552n685fefaalb6d063de044dffb9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200711021437.24025.phil@turboschedule.com>
	<200711081037.09282.phil@turboschedule.com>
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	<200711121452.42858.phil@turboschedule.com>
	<5bef4baf0711121110m42e11d52sf1d30cb1c0f05299@mail.gmail.com>
	<AEB9B5C8-82C0-4969-91EF-BA03616DB6F9@verizon.net>
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In the wake of yesterday's Parrot introduction, I found this link (and
a few related linkes) that popped up on reddit.com today very
interesting:

http://dynalang.sourceforge.net/
http://dynalang.sourceforge.net/javadoc/index.html
http://groups.google.com/group/jvm-languages/browse_frm/thread/37ae283aa61a4f9



On Nov 12, 2007 6:52 PM, Richard Dice <rdice at pobox.com> wrote:
> Jim,
>
> You make a good distinction between Parrot and Perl 6.  I would like to
> point out that one of the most promising routes to eventual full
> implementation of Perl 6 is on a Parrot engine, and so help for Parrot is
> likely going to directly speed the progress of Perl 6.
>
> Beyond that, there are aspects of Perl 6 implementation that are closely
> related to Parrot development;  namely, PCT (the "parrot compiler
> toolchain") and NQP ("not quite perl").   NQP could be the most
> closely-related project to Phil's interests.  That is, it is a strict subset
> of Perl 6 within the PCT that provides enough of the language that not-yet
> implemented elements of Perl 6 (on Parrot) can be implemented with NQP!
>
> It's a great way to gain practice in Perl 6 while at the same time helping
> bring Perl 6 closer to reality.  Phil, you game?
>
> Cheers,
> Richard
>
>
>
> On Nov 12, 2007 6:26 PM, James E Keenan < jkeen at verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Nov 12, 2007, at 2:10 PM, Richard Dice wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Phil,
> > >
> >
> > > You can join that effort.  Volunteers are welcome, needed, and make
> > > a big difference.
> >
> > I agree.
> >
> >
> > > For instance, of the people I know who are on this list, Jim Keenan
> > > is a very committed volunteer.
> >
> > I agree with that too ;-)
> >
> >
> > > Maybe you could talk to him about ways you can make a difference too?
> > >
> >
> > However, I should note that the project where I'm most heavily
> > involved is Parrot, the virtual machine which will underlie Perl 6.
> > I'm not involved with Perl 6 itself and can't speak authoritatively
> > about its development.  Based on his subsequent post, my guess is
> > that his main interest lies in Perl 6.  I would recommend that he
> > post on perl6porters about his interests and see how they can work
> > him into that project.
> >
> > jimk
> >
>
>
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From magnachef at gmail.com  Fri Nov 16 08:11:49 2007
From: magnachef at gmail.com (Dan Magnuszewski)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:11:49 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Slides From Yesterday's Parrot Talk & Next Month's
	Agenda
Message-ID: <cd66f9fd0711160811i10369acay32671427126d8bff@mail.gmail.com>

All,

We had a good meeting last night, and for those interested, I have put
the slides up on the website:

http://buffalo.pm.org/#nov15

We have also discussed our topic for next month's meeting. We will be
holding a Catalyst "hackathon", where we will build a web application,
from the ground up, using Catalyst. For those of you who are not
familiar with Catalyst, it is a Perl web application framework,
similar to that of a Ruby on Rails.

See the following for more information:

http://www.catalystframework.org
http://search.cpan.org/dist/Catalyst-Manual/lib/Catalyst/Manual/About.pod

See you next month!

-Dan

From dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 16 10:34:33 2007
From: dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com (Daniel Magnuszewski)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:34:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Slides From Yesterday's Parrot Talk & Next Month's
	Agenda
Message-ID: <775975.15951.qm@web33302.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

All,

We had a good meeting last night, and for those interested, I have put
the slides up on the website:

http://buffalo.pm.org/#nov15

We have also discussed our topic for next month's meeting. We will be
holding a Catalyst "hackathon", where we will build a web application,
from the ground up, using Catalyst. For those of you who are not
familiar with Catalyst, it is a Perl web application framework,
similar to that of a Ruby on Rails.

See the following for more information:

http://www.catalystframework.org
http://search.cpan.org/dist/Catalyst-Manual/lib/Catalyst/Manual/About.pod

See you next month!

-Dan


From dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 28 20:10:33 2007
From: dmagnuszewski at yahoo.com (Daniel Magnuszewski)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:10:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] ThinkGeek Hiring Perl Programmers
Message-ID: <642005.9413.qm@web33313.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Ran across this and thought it may be of interest to someone:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/jobstwo/

-Dan