From dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com  Tue Dec  6 13:48:38 2005
From: dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com (DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI)
Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:48:38 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] The December (Mostly Social) Meeting...
Message-ID: <s395c0fc.058@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>

Mongers,

No, we haven't disappeared...we just went into a brief hibernation
during the fall ;-) I'll take the blame for this as I greatly
underestimated the amount of time consumed by getting married and buying
a house.

We will be holding our next meeting on Thursday, December 15th @ 7 PM
at: 

Buffalo Tap Room 
http://www.buffalotaproom.com 
2309 Eggert Road
Tonawanda, NY 14150 
832-6054
Directions/Info:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=buffalo+tap+room+tonawanda+ny&spn=0.043248,0.075831&cid=43020278,-78880556,5592635937246303560&iwloc=A&hl=en

The agenda will consist of both business and pleasure. The only
business for the night will include setting dates for the next few
meetings and assigning them topics and speakers - so come ready with
ideas! The rest of the meeting will consist of holiday cheer (beer),
coupled with casual Perl conversations and geeky banter.

Propaganda Section:

I would like to invite all those list dwellers who have not had a
chance to come out to any of the meetings, or anyone who feels that
their limited Perl knowledge excludes them from attending. Perl Mongers
exists for both newbies and Guru's alike! 

</END PROPAGANDA>

I hope to see everyone next Thursday!!!

 

---------
Daniel Magnuszewski, CCNA
Systems Analyst
Operating Tools
M & T Bank Corporation
716.639.6834
dmagnuszewski { at } mandtbank.com 
http://www.mandtbank.com 
---------------------------
M&T Bank Corporation - "Understanding What's Important"


From dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com  Fri Dec  9 07:51:39 2005
From: dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com (DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI)
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 10:51:39 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] PerlMongers::NHL
Message-ID: <s39961d3.080@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>

Mongers,

Last night I was thinking about how great it is to have Hockey back. As
a die hard Buffalo Sabres fan, I am familiar with our division rivalry
with the Toronto Maple Leafs. I thought that this would be a good excuse
to bring the Buffalo and Toronto groups together for some Perl, hockey,
and beer (of course). Perhaps we can even talk some Perl during the
pre-game.

I know there's a bunch of TPM'ers on this list, so (both Buffalo and
Toronto groups) let me know what your thoughts are on the idea. Below is
a list of the remaining Sabres/Leafs games. I was thinking about maybe a
weekend or Friday night game? 

Note: Most of the Thursday games start at 7ish and the Fri/Weekend
games start at 8.

Thursday, Dec 29 
Thursday, Jan 26
Friday, Mar 3
Thursday, Mar 16
Saturday, April 1
Monday, April 3
Sunday, April 16



---------
Daniel Magnuszewski, CCNA
Systems Analyst
Operating Tools
M & T Bank Corporation
716.639.6834
dmagnuszewski { at } mandtbank.com 
http://www.mandtbank.com 
---------------------------
M&T Bank Corporation - "Understanding What's Important"


From rdice at pobox.com  Fri Dec  9 10:14:15 2005
From: rdice at pobox.com (Richard Dice)
Date: Fri,  9 Dec 2005 13:14:15 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] PerlMongers::NHL
In-Reply-To: <s39961d3.080@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>
References: <s39961d3.080@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>
Message-ID: <1134152055.4399c977cee0f@webmail.tht.net>


> Last night I was thinking about how great it is to have Hockey back. As
> a die hard Buffalo Sabres fan, I am familiar with our division rivalry
> with the Toronto Maple Leafs. I thought that this would be a good excuse
> to bring the Buffalo and Toronto groups together for some Perl, hockey,
> and beer (of course). Perhaps we can even talk some Perl during the
> pre-game.

Neat idea.  Wouldn't this require some neutral, middle ground?  (e.g. St.
Catherine's, Hamilton.)

Cheers,
Richard


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From dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com  Fri Dec  9 10:28:29 2005
From: dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com (DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI)
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 13:28:29 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] PerlMongers::NHL
Message-ID: <s399869f.043@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>

Yeah, that's a good idea for both travel time and personal safety ;-)

>>> "Richard Dice" <rdice at pobox.com> 12/09/05 1:14 PM >>>

> Last night I was thinking about how great it is to have Hockey back.
As
> a die hard Buffalo Sabres fan, I am familiar with our division
rivalry
> with the Toronto Maple Leafs. I thought that this would be a good
excuse
> to bring the Buffalo and Toronto groups together for some Perl,
hockey,
> and beer (of course). Perhaps we can even talk some Perl during the
> pre-game.

Neat idea.  Wouldn't this require some neutral, middle ground?  (e.g.
St.
Catherine's, Hamilton.)

Cheers,
Richard


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From john at perlwolf.com  Sat Dec 10 06:49:08 2005
From: john at perlwolf.com (John Macdonald)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:49:08 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] PerlMongers::NHL
In-Reply-To: <1134152055.4399c977cee0f@webmail.tht.net>
References: <s39961d3.080@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>
	<1134152055.4399c977cee0f@webmail.tht.net>
Message-ID: <20051210144908.GB15275@lupus.perlwolf.com>

On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 01:14:15PM -0500, Richard Dice wrote:
> 
> > Last night I was thinking about how great it is to have Hockey back. As
> > a die hard Buffalo Sabres fan, I am familiar with our division rivalry
> > with the Toronto Maple Leafs. I thought that this would be a good excuse
> > to bring the Buffalo and Toronto groups together for some Perl, hockey,
> > and beer (of course). Perhaps we can even talk some Perl during the
> > pre-game.
> 
> Neat idea.  Wouldn't this require some neutral, middle ground?  (e.g. St.
> Catherine's, Hamilton.)

Either that or choose two games, one each in Toronto and Buffalo
and each group gets a home and an away visit.  (I don't know
how easy it is to get tickets though.  It always used to
be impossible in Toronto, but the last time I checked was
years ago.)

-- 

From dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com  Mon Dec 12 07:30:12 2005
From: dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com (DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:30:12 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] PerlMongers::NHL
Message-ID: <s39d514c.028@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>

Although, I like the Home/Away concept, I think we need to give this an
initial test run to gauge it's success. 

>From what I've heard, it is impossible to get tickets to a Toronto game
in Toronto. Because of this, it's also _very_ hard to get Toronto
tickets in Buffalo. 

-Dan

>>> "John Macdonald" <john at perlwolf.com> 12/10/05 9:49 AM >>>
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 01:14:15PM -0500, Richard Dice wrote:
> 
> > Last night I was thinking about how great it is to have Hockey
back. As
> > a die hard Buffalo Sabres fan, I am familiar with our division
rivalry
> > with the Toronto Maple Leafs. I thought that this would be a good
excuse
> > to bring the Buffalo and Toronto groups together for some Perl,
hockey,
> > and beer (of course). Perhaps we can even talk some Perl during
the
> > pre-game.
> 
> Neat idea.  Wouldn't this require some neutral, middle ground?  (e.g.
St.
> Catherine's, Hamilton.)

Either that or choose two games, one each in Toronto and Buffalo
and each group gets a home and an away visit.  (I don't know
how easy it is to get tickets though.  It always used to
be impossible in Toronto, but the last time I checked was
years ago.)

-- 



From dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com  Wed Dec 14 12:21:00 2005
From: dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com (DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:21:00 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] [REMINDER] The December (Mostly Social) Meeting Is
	Tomorrow!!!
Message-ID: <s3a0387d.068@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>

Mongers,

This is just a reminder/reiteration that we will be holding our next
meeting (tomorrow) Thursday, December 15th @ 7 PM at: 

Buffalo Tap Room (The bar area, not the restaurant side)
http://www.buffalotaproom.com 
2309 Eggert Road
Tonawanda, NY 14150 
832-6054

Directions/Info:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=buffalo+tap+room+tonawanda+ny&spn=0.043248,0.075831&cid=43020278,-78880556,5592635937246303560&iwloc=A&hl=en


The agenda will consist of both business and pleasure. The only
business for the night will include setting dates for the next few
meetings and assigning them topics and speakers - so come ready with
ideas! The rest of the meeting will consist of holiday cheer (beer),
coupled with casual Perl conversations and geeky banter.

Propaganda Section:

I would like to invite all those list dwellers who have not had a
chance to come out to any of the meetings, or anyone who feels that
their limited Perl knowledge excludes them from attending. Perl
Mongers
exists for both newbies and Guru's alike! 

</END PROPAGANDA>

I hope to see everyone tomorrow!!!

---------
Daniel Magnuszewski, CCNA
Systems Analyst
Operating Tools
M & T Bank Corporation
716.639.6834
dmagnuszewski { at } mandtbank.com 
http://www.mandtbank.com 
---------------------------
M&T Bank Corporation - "Understanding What's Important"


From dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com  Thu Dec 15 14:32:57 2005
From: dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com (DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:32:57 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] [REMINDER] The December Meeting Postponed Due To
 Weather!
Message-ID: <s3a1a8e7.042@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>

All,

Due to the severe road conditions, I am postponing the meeting to a
future date - next week? I will be up there for a little while after 7
just incase any stragglers, who didn't get the message, show up.

Sorry for the late message.

-Dan

---------
Daniel Magnuszewski, CCNA
Systems Analyst
Operating Tools
M & T Bank Corporation
716.639.6834
dmagnuszewski { at } mandtbank.com 
http://www.mandtbank.com 
---------------------------
M&T Bank Corporation - "Understanding What's Important"
>>> "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI" <dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com> 12/14/05 3:21 PM
>>>
Mongers,

This is just a reminder/reiteration that we will be holding our next
meeting (tomorrow) Thursday, December 15th @ 7 PM at: 

Buffalo Tap Room (The bar area, not the restaurant side)
http://www.buffalotaproom.com 
2309 Eggert Road
Tonawanda, NY 14150 
832-6054

Directions/Info:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=buffalo+tap+room+tonawanda+ny&spn=0.043248,0.075831&cid=43020278,-78880556,5592635937246303560&iwloc=A&hl=en


The agenda will consist of both business and pleasure. The only
business for the night will include setting dates for the next few
meetings and assigning them topics and speakers - so come ready with
ideas! The rest of the meeting will consist of holiday cheer (beer),
coupled with casual Perl conversations and geeky banter.

Propaganda Section:

I would like to invite all those list dwellers who have not had a
chance to come out to any of the meetings, or anyone who feels that
their limited Perl knowledge excludes them from attending. Perl
Mongers
exists for both newbies and Guru's alike! 

</END>

I hope to see everyone tomorrow!!!

---------
Daniel Magnuszewski, CCNA
Systems Analyst
Operating Tools
M & T Bank Corporation
716.639.6834
dmagnuszewski { at } mandtbank.com 
http://www.mandtbank.com 
---------------------------
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From jkeen at verizon.net  Fri Dec 16 14:33:07 2005
From: jkeen at verizon.net (James Keenan)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:33:07 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] [REMINDER] The December Meeting Postponed Due To
	Weather!
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9.1134763206.17314.buffalo-pm@pm.org>
References: <mailman.9.1134763206.17314.buffalo-pm@pm.org>
Message-ID: <c0d4a3b461a8ce7f425a800a92d5eef4@verizon.net>


On Dec 16, 2005, at 3:00 PM, buffalo-pm-request at pm.org wrote:

> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:32:57 -0500
> From: "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI" <dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
> Subject: Re: [Buffalo-pm] [REMINDER] The December Meeting Postponed
> 	Due To Weather!
> To: buffalo-pm at mail.pm.org, "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI"
> 	<dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
>
> All,
>
> Due to the severe road conditions, I am postponing the meeting to a
> future date - next week? I will be up there for a little while after 7
> just incase any stragglers, who didn't get the message, show up.
>

A Perlmongers meeting postponed due to weather???

Anything in Buffalo postponed due to weather???

What is our country coming to?

Jim Keenan
Born and raised in Rochester
UB (f.k.a. SUNYAB) Class of 1973


From dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com  Fri Dec 16 22:27:06 2005
From: dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com (DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:27:06 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] [REMINDER] The December Meeting Postponed DueTo
 Weather!
Message-ID: <s3a36980.055@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>

I know...it's a sad sad day...If we can't handle it, then who can?!?!

It would have been alright if it was a foot or two of snow, but I guess
a good ice-storm is a different story.

>>> "James Keenan" <jkeen at verizon.net> 12/16/05 5:33 PM >>>

On Dec 16, 2005, at 3:00 PM, buffalo-pm-request at pm.org wrote:

> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:32:57 -0500
> From: "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI" <dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
> Subject: Re: [Buffalo-pm] [REMINDER] The December Meeting Postponed
> 	Due To Weather!
> To: buffalo-pm at mail.pm.org, "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI"
> 	<dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
>
> All,
>
> Due to the severe road conditions, I am postponing the meeting to a
> future date - next week? I will be up there for a little while after 7
> just incase any stragglers, who didn't get the message, show up.
>

A Perlmongers meeting postponed due to weather???

Anything in Buffalo postponed due to weather???

What is our country coming to?

Jim Keenan
Born and raised in Rochester
UB (f.k.a. SUNYAB) Class of 1973

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From dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com  Mon Dec 19 08:29:00 2005
From: dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com (DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:29:00 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] The (RESCHEDULED) December Meeting Is This Wednesday!!!
Message-ID: <s3a6999e.065@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>

Mongers,

As you know, the meeting from last week was canceled due to the
weather. It has been rescheduled for this Wednesday, December 21st @ 7
PM at: 

Buffalo Tap Room (The bar area, not the restaurant side)
http://www.buffalotaproom.com 
2309 Eggert Road
Tonawanda, NY 14150 
832-6054

Directions/Info:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=buffalo+tap+room+tonawanda+ny&spn=0.043248,0.075831&cid=43020278,-78880556,5592635937246303560&iwloc=A&hl=en



** Reiteration Of Meeting Below **


The agenda will consist of both business and pleasure. The only
business for the night will include setting dates for the next few
meetings and assigning them topics and speakers - so come ready with
ideas! The rest of the meeting will consist of holiday cheer (beer),
coupled with casual Perl conversations and geeky banter.

Propaganda Section:

I would like to invite all those list dwellers who have not had a
chance to come out to any of the meetings, or anyone who feels that
their limited Perl knowledge excludes them from attending. Perl
Mongers
exists for both newbies and Guru's alike! 

</END PROPAGANDA>

I hope to see everyone on Wednesday!!!

-Dan



From dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com  Wed Dec 21 07:07:19 2005
From: dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com (DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 10:07:19 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] [REMINDER] The Meeting Is Today!!!
Message-ID: <s3a92969.037@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>

Mongers,

Just a reminder...

The meeting is _Tonight_ @ 7 PM at: 

Buffalo Tap Room (The bar area, not the restaurant side)
http://www.buffalotaproom.com 
2309 Eggert Road
Tonawanda, NY 14150 
832-6054

Directions/Info:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=buffalo+tap+room+tonawanda+ny&spn=0.043248,0.075831&cid=43020278,-78880556,5592635937246303560&iwloc=A&hl=en


Let me know if you have any questions.

See you all tonight!

#!/Dan


From dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com  Thu Dec 22 10:33:21 2005
From: dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com (DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 13:33:21 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Review Of The December Meeting
Message-ID: <s3aaab3d.049@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>

Mongers,

We had a good time last night, and there were many new faces. I was
quite happy with the turnout. 

As far as the two action items for the meeting, we were able to set a
new meeting schedule that seemed to work best for everyone: 

Meetings will take place on the 3rd Tuesday of every month, starting in
January.

January 17th
February 21st
March 21st
April 18th

...and so on.

The second item of business was to determine topics for the next few
meetings. I think we have a good list of topics to start with - now we
need some people who would like to step up to talk on these topics. If
you would like to present on any of the following, please let me know
and give me a target meeting date that you would like to present on. I
volunteered some people, so let me know if I need to remove/add your
name from anything.

----

Bioinformatics & Perl 
(30 - 45 Min)
Ganesh Shankar
January 17th

Intro To Perl (and cool tricks)
All/Anyone
Have a section at each meeting (10 - 30 min)?

Intro To Writing Perl Modules
Kevin Eye
January?

AI::Prolog
Dan Magnuszewski
January/February?

Using Perl For Serial I/O
March (tentative)
David Andruczyk

GIS & Perl
Mike Canzoneri
Date?

Self Modifying Code
Person?
Date?

More GUI Stuff...
Person? Kevin? Jim?
Date?

Creating Executable Files In Perl (perl2exe, PAR, etc)
Person? Kevin Eye? Mike Canzoneri?
Date?

SWISH
Kevin Eye
Date?

Mod_Perl
Jim? Kevin Eye?
Date?

Tim Ace's Forgotten Module (using C code/keychain tie-in?)
Tim Ace
Time?

Pack/Unpack functions (whitespace programming?)
Dan Magnuszewski?
Date?

Ajax
Tim Ace? Kevin Eye? Kyle Obear (I signed you up for this without your
permission)?
Date?

----

If there are any other topics that you would like to give a talk on, or
add to the list, let me know. I will hopefully be able to send out the
January agenda within the next week or two.

See you all in January!

#!/Dan



From dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com  Thu Dec 22 11:59:15 2005
From: dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com (DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:59:15 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Fwd: PHP, Perl Developer - Contract Hire - Buffalo, NY
Message-ID: <s3aabf6c.029@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>

I had a talk with Hank over the phone, and there are a handful of
openings looking to be filled ASAP. It is my understanding that these
positions have a good chance of becoming full time after the 3 month
contract period.

Please respond directly to Hank regarding these openings.


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From eye at buffalo.edu  Thu Dec 22 12:19:56 2005
From: eye at buffalo.edu (Kevin Eye)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 15:19:56 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Review Of The December Meeting
In-Reply-To: <s3aaab3d.049@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>
Message-ID: <BFD0749C.67E9%eye@buffalo.edu>

> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
> Kevin Eye
> January?

I'll confirm myself for this. You want an hour, or half an hour or what?

 - Kevin


On 12/22/05 1:33 PM, "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI" <dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
wrote:

> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
> Kevin Eye
> January?

-- 
Kevin Eye
Web Applications Developer
Marketing and Creative Services
University at Buffalo
330 Crofts Hall
Buffalo, NY 14260
eye at buffalo.edu
phone (716) 645-5000 x1435
fax (716) 645-3765



From dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com  Thu Dec 22 12:46:50 2005
From: dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com (DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 15:46:50 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Review Of The December Meeting
Message-ID: <s3aaca86.062@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>

I'd say 45 - 60 minutes. This way we can have both you and Ganesh talk,
which should take up about 1.5 hours. That should leave enough time for
discussion and perhaps 15 - 20 minutes of "Intro Perl (and Cool
Tricks)".

So the next question is what the Intro Perl/Cool Trick will be...

...Thoughts?


>>> "Kevin Eye" <eye at buffalo.edu> 12/22/05 3:19 PM >>>
> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
> Kevin Eye
> January?

I'll confirm myself for this. You want an hour, or half an hour or
what?

 - Kevin


On 12/22/05 1:33 PM, "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI"
<dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
wrote:

> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
> Kevin Eye
> January?

-- 
Kevin Eye
Web Applications Developer
Marketing and Creative Services
University at Buffalo
330 Crofts Hall
Buffalo, NY 14260
eye at buffalo.edu 
phone (716) 645-5000 x1435
fax (716) 645-3765





From eye at buffalo.edu  Thu Dec 22 13:10:20 2005
From: eye at buffalo.edu (Kevin Eye)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:10:20 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Review Of The December Meeting
In-Reply-To: <s3aaca86.062@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>
Message-ID: <BFD0806C.67F8%eye@buffalo.edu>

> So the next question is what the Intro Perl/Cool Trick will be...

I have a suggestion (probably more cool trick than intro) -- I think the two
most underappreciated functions of perl are map and grep. With them
available, I hardly use for loops, and I think the code is clearer, too
(when I restrain myself from putting entire subroutines into one line).

I don't want to monopolize the schedule, but I could talk about that some
time, too.

 - Kevin

On 12/22/05 3:46 PM, "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI" <dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
wrote:

> I'd say 45 - 60 minutes. This way we can have both you and Ganesh talk,
> which should take up about 1.5 hours. That should leave enough time for
> discussion and perhaps 15 - 20 minutes of "Intro Perl (and Cool
> Tricks)".
> 
> So the next question is what the Intro Perl/Cool Trick will be...
> 
> ...Thoughts?
> 
> 
>>>> "Kevin Eye" <eye at buffalo.edu> 12/22/05 3:19 PM >>>
>> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
>> Kevin Eye
>> January?
> 
> I'll confirm myself for this. You want an hour, or half an hour or
> what?
> 
>  - Kevin
> 
> 
> On 12/22/05 1:33 PM, "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI"
> <dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
>> Kevin Eye
>> January?

-- 
Kevin Eye
Web Applications Developer
Marketing and Creative Services
University at Buffalo
330 Crofts Hall
Buffalo, NY 14260
eye at buffalo.edu
phone (716) 645-5000 x1435
fax (716) 645-3765



From jeresig at gmail.com  Thu Dec 22 13:32:17 2005
From: jeresig at gmail.com (John Resig)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:32:17 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm]  Review Of The December Meeting
Message-ID: <80CDD86C-429F-4880-9BB9-35040F7E94A8@gmail.com>

Hello All,

Concerning the upcoming meeting schedule - I can definitely do one on  
AJAX/Javascript/JSON, etc. etc. if anyone is interested. I come from  
a solid Perl background - so I could definitely do a lot of topics  
from that point of view, (like intro to Javascript OO, JSON, XML,  
DOM, RSS, etc.).

Let me know which/any of these topics interest you, I could  
definitely do 1-2 hours on it, no problem.

John Resig
http://ejohn.org/

From dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com  Thu Dec 22 13:52:12 2005
From: dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com (DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:52:12 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Review Of The December Meeting
Message-ID: <s3aad9e4.089@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>

That sounds like a good topic. I don't have any problem with you doing
the module and map/grep talk - I don't think others will be opposed to
this either. So give me a "nay" or "yay" on whether I should add that to
the January agenda.

-Dan

>>> "Kevin Eye" <eye at buffalo.edu> 12/22/05 4:09 PM >>>
> So the next question is what the Intro Perl/Cool Trick will be...

I have a suggestion (probably more cool trick than intro) -- I think
the two
most underappreciated functions of perl are map and grep. With them
available, I hardly use for loops, and I think the code is clearer,
too
(when I restrain myself from putting entire subroutines into one
line).

I don't want to monopolize the schedule, but I could talk about that
some
time, too.

 - Kevin

On 12/22/05 3:46 PM, "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI"
<dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
wrote:

> I'd say 45 - 60 minutes. This way we can have both you and Ganesh
talk,
> which should take up about 1.5 hours. That should leave enough time
for
> discussion and perhaps 15 - 20 minutes of "Intro Perl (and Cool
> Tricks)".
> 
> So the next question is what the Intro Perl/Cool Trick will be...
> 
> ...Thoughts?
> 
> 
>>>> "Kevin Eye" <eye at buffalo.edu> 12/22/05 3:19 PM >>>
>> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
>> Kevin Eye
>> January?
> 
> I'll confirm myself for this. You want an hour, or half an hour or
> what?
> 
>  - Kevin
> 
> 
> On 12/22/05 1:33 PM, "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI"
> <dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
>> Kevin Eye
>> January?

-- 
Kevin Eye
Web Applications Developer
Marketing and Creative Services
University at Buffalo
330 Crofts Hall
Buffalo, NY 14260
eye at buffalo.edu 
phone (716) 645-5000 x1435
fax (716) 645-3765





From eye at buffalo.edu  Thu Dec 22 13:51:09 2005
From: eye at buffalo.edu (Kevin Eye)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:51:09 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Review Of The December Meeting
In-Reply-To: <s3aad9e4.089@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>
Message-ID: <BFD089FD.6804%eye@buffalo.edu>

I'll plan to do it. If someone comes up with something else, bump the
map/grep thing to another month.

 - Kevin


On 12/22/05 4:52 PM, "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI" <dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
wrote:

> That sounds like a good topic. I don't have any problem with you doing
> the module and map/grep talk - I don't think others will be opposed to
> this either. So give me a "nay" or "yay" on whether I should add that to
> the January agenda.
> 
> -Dan
> 
>>>> "Kevin Eye" <eye at buffalo.edu> 12/22/05 4:09 PM >>>
>> So the next question is what the Intro Perl/Cool Trick will be...
> 
> I have a suggestion (probably more cool trick than intro) -- I think
> the two
> most underappreciated functions of perl are map and grep. With them
> available, I hardly use for loops, and I think the code is clearer,
> too
> (when I restrain myself from putting entire subroutines into one
> line).
> 
> I don't want to monopolize the schedule, but I could talk about that
> some
> time, too.
> 
>  - Kevin
> 
> On 12/22/05 3:46 PM, "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI"
> <dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I'd say 45 - 60 minutes. This way we can have both you and Ganesh
> talk,
>> which should take up about 1.5 hours. That should leave enough time
> for
>> discussion and perhaps 15 - 20 minutes of "Intro Perl (and Cool
>> Tricks)".
>> 
>> So the next question is what the Intro Perl/Cool Trick will be...
>> 
>> ...Thoughts?
>> 
>> 
>>>>> "Kevin Eye" <eye at buffalo.edu> 12/22/05 3:19 PM >>>
>>> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
>>> Kevin Eye
>>> January?
>> 
>> I'll confirm myself for this. You want an hour, or half an hour or
>> what?
>> 
>>  - Kevin
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/22/05 1:33 PM, "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI"
>> <dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
>>> Kevin Eye
>>> January?

-- 
Kevin Eye
Web Applications Developer
Marketing and Creative Services
University at Buffalo
330 Crofts Hall
Buffalo, NY 14260
eye at buffalo.edu
phone (716) 645-5000 x1435
fax (716) 645-3765



From joshua at wolfnix.net  Thu Dec 22 13:55:06 2005
From: joshua at wolfnix.net (Joshua Ronne Altemoos)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:55:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Review Of The December Meeting
In-Reply-To: <s3aaab3d.049@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>
References: <s3aaab3d.049@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>
Message-ID: <9626.71.243.186.134.1135288506.squirrel@webmail.wolfnix.net>

hey,

I joined the ML a lil while ago. I would loved to attend a meeting. I am
not avid in perl but i would like to change that. One problem. I think it
would be quite illegal for me to be in a bar. It is also an issue for me
to get out there but by the looks of it the tap is near NF blvd which
would make it easy for me to get there on bus.

See ya around


Josh

> Mongers,
>
> We had a good time last night, and there were many new faces. I was
> quite happy with the turnout.
>
> As far as the two action items for the meeting, we were able to set a
> new meeting schedule that seemed to work best for everyone:
>
> Meetings will take place on the 3rd Tuesday of every month, starting in
> January.
>
> January 17th
> February 21st
> March 21st
> April 18th
>
> ...and so on.
>
> The second item of business was to determine topics for the next few
> meetings. I think we have a good list of topics to start with - now we
> need some people who would like to step up to talk on these topics. If
> you would like to present on any of the following, please let me know
> and give me a target meeting date that you would like to present on. I
> volunteered some people, so let me know if I need to remove/add your
> name from anything.
>
> ----
>
> Bioinformatics & Perl
> (30 - 45 Min)
> Ganesh Shankar
> January 17th
>
> Intro To Perl (and cool tricks)
> All/Anyone
> Have a section at each meeting (10 - 30 min)?
>
> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
> Kevin Eye
> January?
>
> AI::Prolog
> Dan Magnuszewski
> January/February?
>
> Using Perl For Serial I/O
> March (tentative)
> David Andruczyk
>
> GIS & Perl
> Mike Canzoneri
> Date?
>
> Self Modifying Code
> Person?
> Date?
>
> More GUI Stuff...
> Person? Kevin? Jim?
> Date?
>
> Creating Executable Files In Perl (perl2exe, PAR, etc)
> Person? Kevin Eye? Mike Canzoneri?
> Date?
>
> SWISH
> Kevin Eye
> Date?
>
> Mod_Perl
> Jim? Kevin Eye?
> Date?
>
> Tim Ace's Forgotten Module (using C code/keychain tie-in?)
> Tim Ace
> Time?
>
> Pack/Unpack functions (whitespace programming?)
> Dan Magnuszewski?
> Date?
>
> Ajax
> Tim Ace? Kevin Eye? Kyle Obear (I signed you up for this without your
> permission)?
> Date?
>
> ----
>
> If there are any other topics that you would like to give a talk on, or
> add to the list, let me know. I will hopefully be able to send out the
> January agenda within the next week or two.
>
> See you all in January!
>
> #!/Dan
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Buffalo-pm mailing list
> Buffalo-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm
>



From dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com  Thu Dec 22 14:04:29 2005
From: dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com (DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 17:04:29 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Review Of The December Meeting
Message-ID: <s3aadcb8.005@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>

If its illegal because you're < 21, then that's not totally true. You
can be at the Bar (It's actually a restaurant with an attached bar) -
you just can't drink. Maybe there is someone in your area that is also
attending the meetings, and they can give you a ride - where are you
located?

-Dan

>>> "Joshua Ronne Altemoos" <joshua at wolfnix.net> 12/22/05 4:55 PM >>>
hey,

I joined the ML a lil while ago. I would loved to attend a meeting. I
am
not avid in perl but i would like to change that. One problem. I think
it
would be quite illegal for me to be in a bar. It is also an issue for
me
to get out there but by the looks of it the tap is near NF blvd which
would make it easy for me to get there on bus.

See ya around


Josh

> Mongers,
>
> We had a good time last night, and there were many new faces. I was
> quite happy with the turnout.
>
> As far as the two action items for the meeting, we were able to set
a
> new meeting schedule that seemed to work best for everyone:
>
> Meetings will take place on the 3rd Tuesday of every month, starting
in
> January.
>
> January 17th
> February 21st
> March 21st
> April 18th
>
> ...and so on.
>
> The second item of business was to determine topics for the next few
> meetings. I think we have a good list of topics to start with - now
we
> need some people who would like to step up to talk on these topics.
If
> you would like to present on any of the following, please let me
know
> and give me a target meeting date that you would like to present on.
I
> volunteered some people, so let me know if I need to remove/add your
> name from anything.
>
> ----
>
> Bioinformatics & Perl
> (30 - 45 Min)
> Ganesh Shankar
> January 17th
>
> Intro To Perl (and cool tricks)
> All/Anyone
> Have a section at each meeting (10 - 30 min)?
>
> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
> Kevin Eye
> January?
>
> AI::Prolog
> Dan Magnuszewski
> January/February?
>
> Using Perl For Serial I/O
> March (tentative)
> David Andruczyk
>
> GIS & Perl
> Mike Canzoneri
> Date?
>
> Self Modifying Code
> Person?
> Date?
>
> More GUI Stuff...
> Person? Kevin? Jim?
> Date?
>
> Creating Executable Files In Perl (perl2exe, PAR, etc)
> Person? Kevin Eye? Mike Canzoneri?
> Date?
>
> SWISH
> Kevin Eye
> Date?
>
> Mod_Perl
> Jim? Kevin Eye?
> Date?
>
> Tim Ace's Forgotten Module (using C code/keychain tie-in?)
> Tim Ace
> Time?
>
> Pack/Unpack functions (whitespace programming?)
> Dan Magnuszewski?
> Date?
>
> Ajax
> Tim Ace? Kevin Eye? Kyle Obear (I signed you up for this without
your
> permission)?
> Date?
>
> ----
>
> If there are any other topics that you would like to give a talk on,
or
> add to the list, let me know. I will hopefully be able to send out
the
> January agenda within the next week or two.
>
> See you all in January!
>
> #!/Dan
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Buffalo-pm mailing list
> Buffalo-pm at pm.org 
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm 
>





From dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com  Thu Dec 22 14:07:38 2005
From: dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com (DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 17:07:38 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Review Of The December Meeting
Message-ID: <s3aadd73.049@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>

Hi John,

I know that there was interest from a few people yesterday to hear some
stuff on Perl & AJAX. Usually the meetings last about 2 hours. If you'd
like the whole time, then that would be fine with me. Do you want to do
this talk in February? If not, when is good for you?

-Dan

>>> "John Resig" <jeresig at gmail.com> 12/22/05 4:32 PM >>>
Hello All,

Concerning the upcoming meeting schedule - I can definitely do one on 

AJAX/Javascript/JSON, etc. etc. if anyone is interested. I come from  
a solid Perl background - so I could definitely do a lot of topics  
from that point of view, (like intro to Javascript OO, JSON, XML,  
DOM, RSS, etc.).

Let me know which/any of these topics interest you, I could  
definitely do 1-2 hours on it, no problem.

John Resig
http://ejohn.org/ 
_______________________________________________
Buffalo-pm mailing list
Buffalo-pm at pm.org 
http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm 



From Ganesh.Shankar at RoswellPark.org  Thu Dec 22 14:27:01 2005
From: Ganesh.Shankar at RoswellPark.org (Shankar, Ganesh)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 17:27:01 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Vote for next meeting's talk
References: <mailman.1971.1135289125.13042.buffalo-pm@pm.org>
Message-ID: <6FF91AE4F1DC7743A6466E334EB865AE02EB02E3@VERITY.roswellpark.org>

 I'll confirm for Intro to Perl Modules.  Feel free to bump my time down if necessary.
-Ganesh


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:59:15 -0500
From: "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI" <dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Fwd: PHP, Perl Developer - Contract Hire -
	Buffalo, NY
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I had a talk with Hank over the phone, and there are a handful of
openings looking to be filled ASAP. It is my understanding that these
positions have a good chance of becoming full time after the 3 month
contract period.

Please respond directly to Hank regarding these openings.


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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 15:19:56 -0500
From: Kevin Eye <eye at buffalo.edu>
Subject: Re: [Buffalo-pm] Review Of The December Meeting
To: DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI <dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>,
	<buffalo-pm at mail.pm.org>
Message-ID: <BFD0749C.67E9%eye at buffalo.edu>
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> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
> Kevin Eye
> January?

I'll confirm myself for this. You want an hour, or half an hour or what?

 - Kevin


On 12/22/05 1:33 PM, "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI" <dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
wrote:

> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
> Kevin Eye
> January?

-- 
Kevin Eye
Web Applications Developer
Marketing and Creative Services
University at Buffalo
330 Crofts Hall
Buffalo, NY 14260
eye at buffalo.edu
phone (716) 645-5000 x1435
fax (716) 645-3765




------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 15:46:50 -0500
From: "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI" <dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
Subject: Re: [Buffalo-pm] Review Of The December Meeting
To: buffalo-pm at mail.pm.org
Message-ID: <s3aaca86.062 at comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

I'd say 45 - 60 minutes. This way we can have both you and Ganesh talk,
which should take up about 1.5 hours. That should leave enough time for
discussion and perhaps 15 - 20 minutes of "Intro Perl (and Cool
Tricks)".

So the next question is what the Intro Perl/Cool Trick will be...

...Thoughts?


>>> "Kevin Eye" <eye at buffalo.edu> 12/22/05 3:19 PM >>>
> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
> Kevin Eye
> January?

I'll confirm myself for this. You want an hour, or half an hour or
what?

 - Kevin


On 12/22/05 1:33 PM, "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI"
<dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
wrote:

> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
> Kevin Eye
> January?

-- 
Kevin Eye
Web Applications Developer
Marketing and Creative Services
University at Buffalo
330 Crofts Hall
Buffalo, NY 14260
eye at buffalo.edu 
phone (716) 645-5000 x1435
fax (716) 645-3765






------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:10:20 -0500
From: Kevin Eye <eye at buffalo.edu>
Subject: Re: [Buffalo-pm] Review Of The December Meeting
To: <buffalo-pm at mail.pm.org>
Message-ID: <BFD0806C.67F8%eye at buffalo.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"

> So the next question is what the Intro Perl/Cool Trick will be...

I have a suggestion (probably more cool trick than intro) -- I think the two
most underappreciated functions of perl are map and grep. With them
available, I hardly use for loops, and I think the code is clearer, too
(when I restrain myself from putting entire subroutines into one line).

I don't want to monopolize the schedule, but I could talk about that some
time, too.

 - Kevin

On 12/22/05 3:46 PM, "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI" <dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
wrote:

> I'd say 45 - 60 minutes. This way we can have both you and Ganesh talk,
> which should take up about 1.5 hours. That should leave enough time for
> discussion and perhaps 15 - 20 minutes of "Intro Perl (and Cool
> Tricks)".
> 
> So the next question is what the Intro Perl/Cool Trick will be...
> 
> ...Thoughts?
> 
> 
>>>> "Kevin Eye" <eye at buffalo.edu> 12/22/05 3:19 PM >>>
>> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
>> Kevin Eye
>> January?
> 
> I'll confirm myself for this. You want an hour, or half an hour or
> what?
> 
>  - Kevin
> 
> 
> On 12/22/05 1:33 PM, "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI"
> <dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
>> Kevin Eye
>> January?

-- 
Kevin Eye
Web Applications Developer
Marketing and Creative Services
University at Buffalo
330 Crofts Hall
Buffalo, NY 14260
eye at buffalo.edu
phone (716) 645-5000 x1435
fax (716) 645-3765




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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:32:17 -0500
From: John Resig <jeresig at gmail.com>
Subject: [Buffalo-pm]  Review Of The December Meeting
To: buffalo-pm at pm.org
Message-ID: <80CDD86C-429F-4880-9BB9-35040F7E94A8 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed

Hello All,

Concerning the upcoming meeting schedule - I can definitely do one on  
AJAX/Javascript/JSON, etc. etc. if anyone is interested. I come from  
a solid Perl background - so I could definitely do a lot of topics  
from that point of view, (like intro to Javascript OO, JSON, XML,  
DOM, RSS, etc.).

Let me know which/any of these topics interest you, I could  
definitely do 1-2 hours on it, no problem.

John Resig
http://ejohn.org/


------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:52:12 -0500
From: "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI" <dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
Subject: Re: [Buffalo-pm] Review Of The December Meeting
To: buffalo-pm at mail.pm.org
Message-ID: <s3aad9e4.089 at comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

That sounds like a good topic. I don't have any problem with you doing
the module and map/grep talk - I don't think others will be opposed to
this either. So give me a "nay" or "yay" on whether I should add that to
the January agenda.

-Dan

>>> "Kevin Eye" <eye at buffalo.edu> 12/22/05 4:09 PM >>>
> So the next question is what the Intro Perl/Cool Trick will be...

I have a suggestion (probably more cool trick than intro) -- I think
the two
most underappreciated functions of perl are map and grep. With them
available, I hardly use for loops, and I think the code is clearer,
too
(when I restrain myself from putting entire subroutines into one
line).

I don't want to monopolize the schedule, but I could talk about that
some
time, too.

 - Kevin

On 12/22/05 3:46 PM, "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI"
<dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
wrote:

> I'd say 45 - 60 minutes. This way we can have both you and Ganesh
talk,
> which should take up about 1.5 hours. That should leave enough time
for
> discussion and perhaps 15 - 20 minutes of "Intro Perl (and Cool
> Tricks)".
> 
> So the next question is what the Intro Perl/Cool Trick will be...
> 
> ...Thoughts?
> 
> 
>>>> "Kevin Eye" <eye at buffalo.edu> 12/22/05 3:19 PM >>>
>> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
>> Kevin Eye
>> January?
> 
> I'll confirm myself for this. You want an hour, or half an hour or
> what?
> 
>  - Kevin
> 
> 
> On 12/22/05 1:33 PM, "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI"
> <dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
>> Kevin Eye
>> January?

-- 
Kevin Eye
Web Applications Developer
Marketing and Creative Services
University at Buffalo
330 Crofts Hall
Buffalo, NY 14260
eye at buffalo.edu 
phone (716) 645-5000 x1435
fax (716) 645-3765






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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:51:09 -0500
From: Kevin Eye <eye at buffalo.edu>
Subject: Re: [Buffalo-pm] Review Of The December Meeting
To: DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI <dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>,
	<buffalo-pm at mail.pm.org>
Message-ID: <BFD089FD.6804%eye at buffalo.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"

I'll plan to do it. If someone comes up with something else, bump the
map/grep thing to another month.

 - Kevin


On 12/22/05 4:52 PM, "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI" <dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
wrote:

> That sounds like a good topic. I don't have any problem with you doing
> the module and map/grep talk - I don't think others will be opposed to
> this either. So give me a "nay" or "yay" on whether I should add that to
> the January agenda.
> 
> -Dan
> 
>>>> "Kevin Eye" <eye at buffalo.edu> 12/22/05 4:09 PM >>>
>> So the next question is what the Intro Perl/Cool Trick will be...
> 
> I have a suggestion (probably more cool trick than intro) -- I think
> the two
> most underappreciated functions of perl are map and grep. With them
> available, I hardly use for loops, and I think the code is clearer,
> too
> (when I restrain myself from putting entire subroutines into one
> line).
> 
> I don't want to monopolize the schedule, but I could talk about that
> some
> time, too.
> 
>  - Kevin
> 
> On 12/22/05 3:46 PM, "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI"
> <dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I'd say 45 - 60 minutes. This way we can have both you and Ganesh
> talk,
>> which should take up about 1.5 hours. That should leave enough time
> for
>> discussion and perhaps 15 - 20 minutes of "Intro Perl (and Cool
>> Tricks)".
>> 
>> So the next question is what the Intro Perl/Cool Trick will be...
>> 
>> ...Thoughts?
>> 
>> 
>>>>> "Kevin Eye" <eye at buffalo.edu> 12/22/05 3:19 PM >>>
>>> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
>>> Kevin Eye
>>> January?
>> 
>> I'll confirm myself for this. You want an hour, or half an hour or
>> what?
>> 
>>  - Kevin
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/22/05 1:33 PM, "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI"
>> <dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
>>> Kevin Eye
>>> January?

-- 
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:55:06 -0500 (EST)
From: "Joshua Ronne Altemoos" <joshua at wolfnix.net>
Subject: Re: [Buffalo-pm] Review Of The December Meeting
To: "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI" <dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
Cc: buffalo-pm at mail.pm.org
Message-ID:
	<9626.71.243.186.134.1135288506.squirrel at webmail.wolfnix.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

hey,

I joined the ML a lil while ago. I would loved to attend a meeting. I am
not avid in perl but i would like to change that. One problem. I think it
would be quite illegal for me to be in a bar. It is also an issue for me
to get out there but by the looks of it the tap is near NF blvd which
would make it easy for me to get there on bus.

See ya around


Josh

> Mongers,
>
> We had a good time last night, and there were many new faces. I was
> quite happy with the turnout.
>
> As far as the two action items for the meeting, we were able to set a
> new meeting schedule that seemed to work best for everyone:
>
> Meetings will take place on the 3rd Tuesday of every month, starting in
> January.
>
> January 17th
> February 21st
> March 21st
> April 18th
>
> ...and so on.
>
> The second item of business was to determine topics for the next few
> meetings. I think we have a good list of topics to start with - now we
> need some people who would like to step up to talk on these topics. If
> you would like to present on any of the following, please let me know
> and give me a target meeting date that you would like to present on. I
> volunteered some people, so let me know if I need to remove/add your
> name from anything.
>
> ----
>
> Bioinformatics & Perl
> (30 - 45 Min)
> Ganesh Shankar
> January 17th
>
> Intro To Perl (and cool tricks)
> All/Anyone
> Have a section at each meeting (10 - 30 min)?
>
> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
> Kevin Eye
> January?
>
> AI::Prolog
> Dan Magnuszewski
> January/February?
>
> Using Perl For Serial I/O
> March (tentative)
> David Andruczyk
>
> GIS & Perl
> Mike Canzoneri
> Date?
>
> Self Modifying Code
> Person?
> Date?
>
> More GUI Stuff...
> Person? Kevin? Jim?
> Date?
>
> Creating Executable Files In Perl (perl2exe, PAR, etc)
> Person? Kevin Eye? Mike Canzoneri?
> Date?
>
> SWISH
> Kevin Eye
> Date?
>
> Mod_Perl
> Jim? Kevin Eye?
> Date?
>
> Tim Ace's Forgotten Module (using C code/keychain tie-in?)
> Tim Ace
> Time?
>
> Pack/Unpack functions (whitespace programming?)
> Dan Magnuszewski?
> Date?
>
> Ajax
> Tim Ace? Kevin Eye? Kyle Obear (I signed you up for this without your
> permission)?
> Date?
>
> ----
>
> If there are any other topics that you would like to give a talk on, or
> add to the list, let me know. I will hopefully be able to send out the
> January agenda within the next week or two.
>
> See you all in January!
>
> #!/Dan
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Buffalo-pm mailing list
> Buffalo-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm
>




------------------------------

Message: 9
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 17:04:29 -0500
From: "DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI" <dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com>
Subject: Re: [Buffalo-pm] Review Of The December Meeting
To: joshua at wolfnix.net
Cc: buffalo-pm at mail.pm.org
Message-ID: <s3aadcb8.005 at comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

If its illegal because you're < 21, then that's not totally true. You
can be at the Bar (It's actually a restaurant with an attached bar) -
you just can't drink. Maybe there is someone in your area that is also
attending the meetings, and they can give you a ride - where are you
located?

-Dan

>>> "Joshua Ronne Altemoos" <joshua at wolfnix.net> 12/22/05 4:55 PM >>>
hey,

I joined the ML a lil while ago. I would loved to attend a meeting. I
am
not avid in perl but i would like to change that. One problem. I think
it
would be quite illegal for me to be in a bar. It is also an issue for
me
to get out there but by the looks of it the tap is near NF blvd which
would make it easy for me to get there on bus.

See ya around


Josh

> Mongers,
>
> We had a good time last night, and there were many new faces. I was
> quite happy with the turnout.
>
> As far as the two action items for the meeting, we were able to set
a
> new meeting schedule that seemed to work best for everyone:
>
> Meetings will take place on the 3rd Tuesday of every month, starting
in
> January.
>
> January 17th
> February 21st
> March 21st
> April 18th
>
> ...and so on.
>
> The second item of business was to determine topics for the next few
> meetings. I think we have a good list of topics to start with - now
we
> need some people who would like to step up to talk on these topics.
If
> you would like to present on any of the following, please let me
know
> and give me a target meeting date that you would like to present on.
I
> volunteered some people, so let me know if I need to remove/add your
> name from anything.
>
> ----
>
> Bioinformatics & Perl
> (30 - 45 Min)
> Ganesh Shankar
> January 17th
>
> Intro To Perl (and cool tricks)
> All/Anyone
> Have a section at each meeting (10 - 30 min)?
>
> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
> Kevin Eye
> January?
>
> AI::Prolog
> Dan Magnuszewski
> January/February?
>
> Using Perl For Serial I/O
> March (tentative)
> David Andruczyk
>
> GIS & Perl
> Mike Canzoneri
> Date?
>
> Self Modifying Code
> Person?
> Date?
>
> More GUI Stuff...
> Person? Kevin? Jim?
> Date?
>
> Creating Executable Files In Perl (perl2exe, PAR, etc)
> Person? Kevin Eye? Mike Canzoneri?
> Date?
>
> SWISH
> Kevin Eye
> Date?
>
> Mod_Perl
> Jim? Kevin Eye?
> Date?
>
> Tim Ace's Forgotten Module (using C code/keychain tie-in?)
> Tim Ace
> Time?
>
> Pack/Unpack functions (whitespace programming?)
> Dan Magnuszewski?
> Date?
>
> Ajax
> Tim Ace? Kevin Eye? Kyle Obear (I signed you up for this without
your
> permission)?
> Date?
>
> ----
>
> If there are any other topics that you would like to give a talk on,
or
> add to the list, let me know. I will hopefully be able to send out
the
> January agenda within the next week or two.
>
> See you all in January!
>
> #!/Dan
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Buffalo-pm mailing list
> Buffalo-pm at pm.org 
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm 
>






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From joshua at wolfnix.net  Thu Dec 22 16:50:04 2005
From: joshua at wolfnix.net (Joshua Ronne Altemoos)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:50:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Review Of The December Meeting
In-Reply-To: <s3aadcb8.006@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>
References: <s3aadcb8.006@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>
Message-ID: <10879.71.243.161.127.1135299004.squirrel@webmail.wolfnix.net>

I live in south buffalo, work and go to school in downtown buffalo.


> If its illegal because you're < 21, then that's not totally true. You
> can be at the Bar (It's actually a restaurant with an attached bar) -
> you just can't drink. Maybe there is someone in your area that is also
> attending the meetings, and they can give you a ride - where are you
> located?
>
> -Dan
>
>>>> "Joshua Ronne Altemoos" <joshua at wolfnix.net> 12/22/05 4:55 PM >>>
> hey,
>
> I joined the ML a lil while ago. I would loved to attend a meeting. I
> am
> not avid in perl but i would like to change that. One problem. I think
> it
> would be quite illegal for me to be in a bar. It is also an issue for
> me
> to get out there but by the looks of it the tap is near NF blvd which
> would make it easy for me to get there on bus.
>
> See ya around
>
>
> Josh
>
>> Mongers,
>>
>> We had a good time last night, and there were many new faces. I was
>> quite happy with the turnout.
>>
>> As far as the two action items for the meeting, we were able to set
> a
>> new meeting schedule that seemed to work best for everyone:
>>
>> Meetings will take place on the 3rd Tuesday of every month, starting
> in
>> January.
>>
>> January 17th
>> February 21st
>> March 21st
>> April 18th
>>
>> ...and so on.
>>
>> The second item of business was to determine topics for the next few
>> meetings. I think we have a good list of topics to start with - now
> we
>> need some people who would like to step up to talk on these topics.
> If
>> you would like to present on any of the following, please let me
> know
>> and give me a target meeting date that you would like to present on.
> I
>> volunteered some people, so let me know if I need to remove/add your
>> name from anything.
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Bioinformatics & Perl
>> (30 - 45 Min)
>> Ganesh Shankar
>> January 17th
>>
>> Intro To Perl (and cool tricks)
>> All/Anyone
>> Have a section at each meeting (10 - 30 min)?
>>
>> Intro To Writing Perl Modules
>> Kevin Eye
>> January?
>>
>> AI::Prolog
>> Dan Magnuszewski
>> January/February?
>>
>> Using Perl For Serial I/O
>> March (tentative)
>> David Andruczyk
>>
>> GIS & Perl
>> Mike Canzoneri
>> Date?
>>
>> Self Modifying Code
>> Person?
>> Date?
>>
>> More GUI Stuff...
>> Person? Kevin? Jim?
>> Date?
>>
>> Creating Executable Files In Perl (perl2exe, PAR, etc)
>> Person? Kevin Eye? Mike Canzoneri?
>> Date?
>>
>> SWISH
>> Kevin Eye
>> Date?
>>
>> Mod_Perl
>> Jim? Kevin Eye?
>> Date?
>>
>> Tim Ace's Forgotten Module (using C code/keychain tie-in?)
>> Tim Ace
>> Time?
>>
>> Pack/Unpack functions (whitespace programming?)
>> Dan Magnuszewski?
>> Date?
>>
>> Ajax
>> Tim Ace? Kevin Eye? Kyle Obear (I signed you up for this without
> your
>> permission)?
>> Date?
>>
>> ----
>>
>> If there are any other topics that you would like to give a talk on,
> or
>> add to the list, let me know. I will hopefully be able to send out
> the
>> January agenda within the next week or two.
>>
>> See you all in January!
>>
>> #!/Dan
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Buffalo-pm mailing list
>> Buffalo-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/buffalo-pm
>>
>
>
>
>
>



From dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com  Tue Dec 27 20:46:04 2005
From: dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com (DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 23:46:04 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] XML File Parsing And Manipulation...
Message-ID: <s3b1d250.064@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>

Mongers,

I apologize in advance for the long email...

I have an optimization/"is this the best way to do it" question.
Hopefully someone can offer a better solution.

Problem:

I need to take the following XML file, and essentially remove a few tags
and their contents (including tags and data contained within those
tags). Here is a link to the file:
http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~dkm/example.xml

The XML file is a dump of a Round Robin Database (RRD -
www.rrdtool.org). This RRD has two data sources (named "la" and "ds1").
I need to remove the "ds1" datasource, and the only way to remove it is
by dumping the RRD to XML, modifying the XML file, then restoring the
RRD from the XML file.

What I need to do is remove the datasource information and the actual
numerical data for "ds1". The numerical data for the two datasources is
contained in the <v> tags, which is within the <row> tags. I will need
to remove the second set of <v> tags and its data.

The following sections need to be removed from the file (in addition to
the second <v> tags and data):

<ds>
     <name> ds1 </name>
     <type> GAUGE </type>
     <minimal_heartbeat> 600 </minimal_heartbeat>
     <min> 0.0000000000e+00 </min>
     <max> 2.0000000000e+05 </max>
     <last_ds> UNKN </last_ds>
     <value> 9.0000000000e+00 </value>
     <unknown_sec> 0 </unknown_sec>
</ds>
....
<ds><value> NaN </value>  <unknown_datapoints> 0
</unknown_datapoints></ds>
...
<ds><value> 7.0166666667e+00 </value>  <unknown_datapoints> 0
</unknown_datapoints></ds>


Solution:

Here's a solution that I came up with. I'm assuming that there's some
XML module that will make this easier. The script takes in an XML
filename, reads in the file, parses out the data that is no longer
needed and prints the needed XML info into a new file named
"oldfilename.new".

#!/usr/bin/perl

@files = @ARGV;
foreach $file (@ARGV)
{
  open IN, "$file" or die "Can't open $file\n";
  open OUT, ">$file.new" or die "Can't open new file $file.new\n";
  $ds   = 0;
  $cdp = 0;
  foreach (<IN>)
  {
     if (/^(.+)\<row\>\<v\> (.+) \<\/v\>\<v\>/)
     {
        print OUT "$1<row><v> $2 </v></row>\n";
        next;
     }
     elsif (/\<ds\>\<value\>/ && $cdp == 1) { $cdp = 0; next; }
     elsif (/\<ds\>\<value\>/ && $cdp == 0) { $cdp = 1; }
     elsif (/\<ds\>/ && $ds == 0)                 { $ds   = 1; }
     elsif (/\<ds\>/ && $ds == 1)                 { $ds   = 2; next; }
     elsif (/\<\/ds\>/ && $ds == 2)              { next; }
     elsif (/(\<name\>
               |\<type\>
               |minimal\_heartbeat|min\>
               |max\>
               |last\_ds
               |value\>
               |unknown_sec\>)
               /x && $ds == 2)
     {
        next;
     }
     print OUT "$_";
  }
  close OUT;
}


There has to be a better way to do this - rather than just counting tags
and keeping counters that decide whether to print the current line or
not.

Thoughts?

#!/Dan



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M & T Bank Corporation
716.639.6834
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From aebruno2 at cse.Buffalo.EDU  Wed Dec 28 22:42:17 2005
From: aebruno2 at cse.Buffalo.EDU (Andrew Bruno)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 01:42:17 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] XML File Parsing And Manipulation...
In-Reply-To: <s3b1d250.064@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>
References: <s3b1d250.064@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.56.0512290022510.3821@yeager.cse.Buffalo.EDU>


Hi Dan,

I would check out XSLT. I know this is the un-perl way to do it but XSLT
is a language built for transforming XML documents and XPath/XSLT provide
some nice ways of manipulating XML. Attached is a quick XSLT that seems to
do the same thing as your perl program. You will need an XSLT processor to
run it and can use the perl module XML::LibXSLT. There is also a great
command line utility called xsltproc (part of libxml) which is included on
most Linux distros. If you have it just run:

  $ xsltproc remove-ds1.xslt example.xml

This will print out the new XML file with the elements removed to stdout.
It may be overkill for your problem but it might be worth looking into if
your going to be doing quite a bit of XML processing.

I would also check out XML::LibXML and XML::LibXSLT which are the perl
bindings into the GNOME libxml libraries. It's always a good idea to use
some kind of XML processing library rather than regex's when it comes to
parsing XML. The libraries will usually help out dealing with
well-formedness, escaping entities, encodings, and all the subtleties of
XML. Here is some example perl code that will transform your XML file
using the attached XSLT:

use strict;
use XML::LibXML;
use XML::LibXSLT;

# Parse the XML file
my $parser = XML::LibXML->new();
my $doc = $parser->parse_file("example.xml");

# Transform with XSLT
my $xslt = XML::LibXSLT->new();
my $style_doc = $parser->parse_file("remove-ds1.xslt");
my $stylesheet = $xslt->parse_stylesheet($style_doc);
my $results = $stylesheet->transform($doc);
$stylesheet->output_file($results, "example.xml.new");

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

--Andy


On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI wrote:

> Mongers,
>
> I apologize in advance for the long email...
>
> I have an optimization/"is this the best way to do it" question.
> Hopefully someone can offer a better solution.
>
> Problem:
>
> I need to take the following XML file, and essentially remove a few tags
> and their contents (including tags and data contained within those
> tags). Here is a link to the file:
> http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~dkm/example.xml
>
> The XML file is a dump of a Round Robin Database (RRD -
> www.rrdtool.org). This RRD has two data sources (named "la" and "ds1").
> I need to remove the "ds1" datasource, and the only way to remove it is
> by dumping the RRD to XML, modifying the XML file, then restoring the
> RRD from the XML file.
>
> What I need to do is remove the datasource information and the actual
> numerical data for "ds1". The numerical data for the two datasources is
> contained in the <v> tags, which is within the <row> tags. I will need
> to remove the second set of <v> tags and its data.
>
> The following sections need to be removed from the file (in addition to
> the second <v> tags and data):
>
> <ds>
>      <name> ds1 </name>
>      <type> GAUGE </type>
>      <minimal_heartbeat> 600 </minimal_heartbeat>
>      <min> 0.0000000000e+00 </min>
>      <max> 2.0000000000e+05 </max>
>      <last_ds> UNKN </last_ds>
>      <value> 9.0000000000e+00 </value>
>      <unknown_sec> 0 </unknown_sec>
> </ds>
> ....
> <ds><value> NaN </value>  <unknown_datapoints> 0
> </unknown_datapoints></ds>
> ...
> <ds><value> 7.0166666667e+00 </value>  <unknown_datapoints> 0
> </unknown_datapoints></ds>
-------------- next part --------------
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<xsl:stylesheet xmlns:xsl="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform" version="1.0">

	<xsl:template match="ds">
		<!-- Only select data sources that do not contain 'ds1' -->
		<xsl:if test="not(contains(name, 'ds1'))">
			<ds>
				<xsl:apply-templates select="./*"/>
			</ds>
		</xsl:if>
	</xsl:template>

	<xsl:template match="cdp_prep">
		<cdp_prep>
			<!-- Only select the first ds element -->
			<xsl:apply-templates select="ds[1]"/>
		</cdp_prep>
	</xsl:template>

	<xsl:template match="row">
		<row>
			<!-- Only select the first v element -->
			<xsl:apply-templates select="v[1]"/>
		</row>
	</xsl:template>

	<!-- Just copy all other elements -->
    <xsl:template match="@* | node()">
        <xsl:copy>
            <xsl:apply-templates select="@* | node()"/>
        </xsl:copy>
    </xsl:template>

</xsl:stylesheet>

From dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com  Thu Dec 29 07:52:32 2005
From: dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com (DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:52:32 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] XML File Parsing And Manipulation...
Message-ID: <s3b3c007.014@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>

Andrew,

Thanks. This looks like a pretty interesting and clean solution -
especially as the parsing needs increase. 


>>> "Andrew Bruno" <aebruno2 at cse.Buffalo.EDU> 12/29/05 1:42 AM >>>

Hi Dan,

I would check out XSLT. I know this is the un-perl way to do it but
XSLT
is a language built for transforming XML documents and XPath/XSLT
provide
some nice ways of manipulating XML. Attached is a quick XSLT that seems
to
do the same thing as your perl program. You will need an XSLT processor
to
run it and can use the perl module XML::LibXSLT. There is also a great
command line utility called xsltproc (part of libxml) which is included
on
most Linux distros. If you have it just run:

  $ xsltproc remove-ds1.xslt example.xml

This will print out the new XML file with the elements removed to
stdout.
It may be overkill for your problem but it might be worth looking into
if
your going to be doing quite a bit of XML processing.

I would also check out XML::LibXML and XML::LibXSLT which are the perl
bindings into the GNOME libxml libraries. It's always a good idea to
use
some kind of XML processing library rather than regex's when it comes
to
parsing XML. The libraries will usually help out dealing with
well-formedness, escaping entities, encodings, and all the subtleties
of
XML. Here is some example perl code that will transform your XML file
using the attached XSLT:

use strict;
use XML::LibXML;
use XML::LibXSLT;

# Parse the XML file
my $parser = XML::LibXML->new();
my $doc = $parser->parse_file("example.xml");

# Transform with XSLT
my $xslt = XML::LibXSLT->new();
my $style_doc = $parser->parse_file("remove-ds1.xslt");
my $stylesheet = $xslt->parse_stylesheet($style_doc);
my $results = $stylesheet->transform($doc);
$stylesheet->output_file($results, "example.xml.new");





From dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com  Thu Dec 29 08:13:40 2005
From: dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com (DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 11:13:40 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Splitting String Of Length "N" Into Elements Of An
	Array...
Message-ID: <s3b3c4f2.060@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>

All,

I need to take a string of length n, where n is very large and unknown,
and put each letter into an element of an array. 

Sudo-Code Example:

$string = 'slkdfj';
@letters = split /SOME REGEX/, $string;
foreach (@letters) { print "Element: $_\n"; }

Expected Output:

Element: s
Element: l
Element: k
Element: d
Element: f
Element: j

I'm not sure if using split is the proper way to accomplish this, or if
I need to use some kind of stream reader.

Thoughts?

#!/Dan


From eye at buffalo.edu  Thu Dec 29 10:29:18 2005
From: eye at buffalo.edu (Kevin Eye)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 13:29:18 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Splitting String Of Length "N" Into Elements Of An
	Array...
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"SOME REGEX" can be blank (e.g. split //, $string), which will split  
on every character like you want. I think split is a good way to do  
that if you need every character in an array.

If the string is actually long (a whole file, maybe; something more  
than a few hundred characters), it would probably be a lot more  
efficient to avoid making a hundred- or thousand-character array of  
one character each.

To work with it without making an array, I'd do something like this:

$string = 'slkdfj';
foreach (0..length($string)-1) { print "Element: ".substr($string,  
$_, 1)."\n"; }

I can't bring myself to use the C-style for(i=0;i<something;i++)  
syntax. It's too much thinking for perl for something that's so  
simple, and I've heard that the above "foreach (0..x)" is internally  
optimized into something just as efficient.

  - Kevin

On Dec 29, 2005, at 11:13 AM, DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI wrote:

> All,
>
> I need to take a string of length n, where n is very large and  
> unknown,
> and put each letter into an element of an array.
>
> Sudo-Code Example:
>
> $string = 'slkdfj';
> @letters = split /SOME REGEX/, $string;
> foreach (@letters) { print "Element: $_\n"; }
>
> Expected Output:
>
> Element: s
> Element: l
> Element: k
> Element: d
> Element: f
> Element: j
>
> I'm not sure if using split is the proper way to accomplish this,  
> or if
> I need to use some kind of stream reader.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> #!/Dan
>
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From dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com  Fri Dec 30 07:24:56 2005
From: dmagnuszewski at mandtbank.com (DANIEL MAGNUSZEWSKI)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:24:56 -0500
Subject: [Buffalo-pm] Splitting String Of Length "N" Into ElementsOf An
 Array...
Message-ID: <s3b50b08.014@comrcm01intgwia.mandtbank.com>

doh!

Thanks. I figured it was something small that I was forgetting.

>>> "Kevin Eye" <eye at buffalo.edu> 12/29/05 1:29 PM >>>
"SOME REGEX" can be blank (e.g. split //, $string), which will split  
on every character like you want. I think split is a good way to do  
that if you need every character in an array.

If the string is actually long (a whole file, maybe; something more  
than a few hundred characters), it would probably be a lot more  
efficient to avoid making a hundred- or thousand-character array of  
one character each.

To work with it without making an array, I'd do something like this:

$string = 'slkdfj';
foreach (0..length($string)-1) { print "Element: ".substr($string,  
$_, 1)."\n"; }

I can't bring myself to use the C-style for(i=0;i<something;i++)  
syntax. It's too much thinking for perl for something that's so  
simple, and I've heard that the above "foreach (0..x)" is internally  
optimized into something just as efficient.

  - Kevin