[BNE-PM] What do you use Perl for?

[Brian Houston]

Greetings,

I am a developer working for Austar here on the Gold Coast.
With all this talk of Perl and Web applications I thought I would chime in
with my two cents -
for what it's worth.

I have moved almost completely to PHP for all light/medium duty Web work.
It has the same syntax that we all know and love, but allows me
to hop in and out of standard HTML.  I have tried mod_perl, but I get bogged
down in the reusability of variables. I think it is just my sloppy coding
practices, but it has rubbed me the wrong way.

I'm also starting to use Mason a bit, which is quite interesting.  Has
anyone else had experience with Mason?  I'd be interested in opinions, as I
am just starting with it.

Cheers,

Brian




-----Original Message-----
From: owner-brisbane-pm-list at pm.org
[mailto:owner-brisbane-pm-list at pm.org]On Behalf Of David Bussenschutt
Sent: Wednesday, 21 August 2002 10:39
To: brisbane-pm-list at happyfunball.pm.org
Subject: Re: [BNE-PM] What do you use Perl for?


In my opinion it's not good sense to build a (supposedly fast) cgi
application that has to (slow) de-package (ie pull out all dependancies it
requires or might require from a .exe into memory) every single time it's
executed... and in regards to mod_perl i doubt it even more, as the
purpose of PerlApp is to create stand-alone/portable apps, and not be
reliant on other installed components (like Apache)  ;-).

Windows and IIS does allow you to configure it to run a .exe as a cgi, so
I spose it MIGHT be possible to do this, but I haven't done it, and
wouldn't do it, it feels to me like "bad form".

David.
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Tony Obermeit <tonyob at compuserve.com>
Sent by: owner-brisbane-pm-list at pm.org
21/08/2002 07:22 AM


        To:     brisbane-pm-list at happyfunball.pm.org
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I remembering buying a copy of PerlApp about 3 years ago.  Does it allow
that kind of bundling for cgi or mod_perl applications?

Tony

At 07:31 PM 20/08/2002 +1000, David Bussenschutt wrote:
>
>Ah, Packaging a perl app (and all  dependancies) into a single binary
>perhaps?   Well, that's easy..use PerlApp..it's .just not completely
free.
>   I'm normally opposed to non-free products, but I gave this one a go
out
>of necessity, and it's really good, and well supported (and not a bad
>price either).
>
>PerlApp is part of the activestate Perl Developers Kit, and has versions
>for HP-UX, Linux, Solaris, and Windows
>http://www.activestate.com/Products/Perl_Dev_Kit/
>
>I bundle a couple of my perl Tk apps up into a single .exe each, and then
>corporately we use them on all the other non perl-ized Windose PC's.
>
>Internally it's not brain surgery at all, really quite
>simple....internally, it figures out all module dependancies at the
source
>level, and then includes all of them, and the perl binary into one .exe
>file that extracts the modules/source into memory at runtime.
>
>I'm just a happy customer.
>
>David.
>(  P.S. sorry i didn't make it to the get-together...still at
>work...writing perl ;-)   )
>
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>Location: Griffith University. Information Technology Services
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>
>
>
>Derek Thomson <derek at wedgetail.com>
>Sent by: owner-brisbane-pm-list at pm.org
>20/08/2002 04:15 PM
>
>
>         To:     Mike Bissett <paran01d at operamail.com>
>         cc:     brisbane-pm-list at happyfunball.pm.org
>         Subject:        Re: [BNE-PM] What do you use Perl for?
>
>
>Mike Bissett wrote:
> >
> > This isnt a flame war its more like tennis, I count 2
> > games to 1 match point to Derek and perl :)) (i could be a
> > bit biased towards perl though).
>
>No, I don't think we've descended into flame war territory just yet. I'm
>genuinely interested in knowing, if I was asked to do a web application,
>why I shouldn't just use Perl. Some interesting reasons are coming out
>of the woodwork, like packaging.
>
>--
>D.