From Tony.Irvine at env.qld.gov.au Thu May 6 19:36:03 1999 From: Tony.Irvine at env.qld.gov.au (Tony Irvine) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:59:03 2004 Subject: [BNE-PM] Hi Message-ID: <37323573.5EDFB0D0@env.qld.gov.au> Hello all, This is a just a quick note of introduction as I have just recently signed up to the list. I am a part time student in my final year of IT at QUT and a full time sysadmin/intranet programmer. I have only been using Perl for about 18 months but it is by far my favourite language because of the amount I have been able to achieve using it. Anyway, I am really pleased to see that there is a pm in Brisbane and I look forward to being involved. Tony -- Tony Irvine Information Support Officer Environmental Protection Agency Tel:(07)3227-7991 Fax:(07)3227-6534 E-Mail: Tony.Irvine@env.qld.gov.au --------------------------------------------- Visit us online at http://www.env.qld.gov.au --------------------------------------------- From G.Fletcher at mailbox.gu.edu.au Thu May 6 20:57:27 1999 From: G.Fletcher at mailbox.gu.edu.au (Gordon Fletcher) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:59:03 2004 Subject: [BNE-PM] A meeting? Message-ID: Hi It's been a few weeks now since we got moving with the PM and the growth of group membership is quite encouraging. It seems like as good a time as any to promise an informal meeting soon. >From what I have read about other PM groups they often choose to meet in eating or drinking places. So does anyone have any suggestions or locales (ie city, west end, ??). We have people from ISPs, unis and government so timing may also be tricky. If people throw some suggestions around I can arrange any bookings etc that might be needed. On a different topic - I noticed that a GoldCoast.pm started up this week. Another encouraging sign. Finally - has anyone had any pleasures / misadventures with the Tk module? I be interested in any comments or thoughts. Gordon From Tony.Irvine at env.qld.gov.au Thu May 6 23:16:39 1999 From: Tony.Irvine at env.qld.gov.au (Tony Irvine) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:59:03 2004 Subject: [BNE-PM] A meeting? References: Message-ID: <37326927.913B0AF7@env.qld.gov.au> Gordon Fletcher wrote: > >From what I have read about other PM groups they often choose to meet in > eating or drinking places. So does anyone have any suggestions or locales > (ie city, west end, ??). We have people from ISPs, unis and government so > timing may also be tricky. If people throw some suggestions around I can > arrange any bookings etc that might be needed. I would be interested in a meeting and I am pretty flexible about times/places. If we had a lunch time meeting it would have to be in the city for me to make it but in the evenings I am happy to drive to a mutually convenient place. Just as an idea, how about lunch or dinner at one of the 'Irish pubs' in the city? Tony -- Tony Irvine Information Support Officer Environmental Protection Agency Tel:(07)3227-7991 Fax:(07)3227-6534 E-Mail: Tony.Irvine@env.qld.gov.au --------------------------------------------- Visit us online at http://www.env.qld.gov.au --------------------------------------------- From bmarshal at plugged.net.au Fri May 7 00:17:28 1999 From: bmarshal at plugged.net.au (Brad Marshall) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:59:03 2004 Subject: [BNE-PM] A meeting? In-Reply-To: ; from Gordon Fletcher on Fri, May 07, 1999 at 11:57:27AM +1000 References: Message-ID: <19990507151727.A21391@plugged.net.au> Hi, > >From what I have read about other PM groups they often choose to meet in > eating or drinking places. So does anyone have any suggestions or locales > (ie city, west end, ??). We have people from ISPs, unis and government so > timing may also be tricky. If people throw some suggestions around I can > arrange any bookings etc that might be needed. I'd certainly be happy to come along - it'd be good to have some informal meeting somewhere. I work near UQ, so anywhere near there, or even in the city, would be fine with me. Thanks, Brad -- Bradley Marshall Sysadmin Plugged In Software From r.buckland at qut.edu.au Fri May 7 01:43:06 1999 From: r.buckland at qut.edu.au (Ramon Buckland) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:59:03 2004 Subject: [BNE-PM] Misadvetures with Tk ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.1.19990507163726.00a2b270@pop.qut.edu.au> >Finally - has anyone had any pleasures / misadventures with the Tk >module? I be interested in any comments or thoughts. Not as yet as I haven't wmbarked down that road but will be next week pecifically for (*eek*) Win32 .. so then maybe. I have found : perl2exe a fantastic Program. I needed to deploy a quick replication software for some win9x Workstations and perl was my answer but not to install the perl etc on the server or client so perl2exe came to the rescue. The program now runs as a background (-gui switch) application (http://www.perl2exe.com) US $149 for the Full version.. I know it's not GPL or PD but hey .. did my trick. Of note .. I receive the Perl Jorunal and I have read the last release from front to back so.. if anyone is interested in borrowing it or whatever I am more than happy (so long as it comes back of course). Cheers -- Ramon Buckland, System Administrator, Facilities Support Services Phone: 07 3864 1289 Fax: 07 3864 1823 Mobile: 0414 27 1289 (x6070) Email: r.buckland@qut.edu.au http: www.fss.qut.edu.au Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? [ OK ] - Author Unknown From r.buckland at qut.edu.au Fri May 7 01:44:55 1999 From: r.buckland at qut.edu.au (Ramon Buckland) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:59:03 2004 Subject: [BNE-PM] A meeting? In-Reply-To: <19990507151727.A21391@plugged.net.au> References: Message-ID: <4.1.19990507164357.009cdbd0@pop.qut.edu.au> Irish Pubs for me are great .. Times are flexible .. (evenings not too much) At 03:17 7/05/99 +1000, Brad Marshall wrote: >Hi, > >> >From what I have read about other PM groups they often choose to meet in >> eating or drinking places. So does anyone have any suggestions or locales >> (ie city, west end, ??). We have people from ISPs, unis and government so >> timing may also be tricky. If people throw some suggestions around I can >> arrange any bookings etc that might be needed. > -- Ramon Buckland, System Administrator, Facilities Support Services Phone: 07 3864 1289 Fax: 07 3864 1823 Mobile: 0414 27 1289 (x6070) Email: r.buckland@qut.edu.au http: www.fss.qut.edu.au Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? [ OK ] - Author Unknown From tim at diggy.com Tue May 11 01:27:01 1999 From: tim at diggy.com (Diggy Tim) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:59:03 2004 Subject: [BNE-PM] A meeting? References: <4.1.19990507164357.009cdbd0@pop.qut.edu.au> Message-ID: <004701be9b77$4a8387a0$1200a8c0@tim> Sorry for the late response... These weeks have been a nightmare with the PCIT preperations.. I'm fairly busy most weekdays... weekends and after work are ok.... I rely on public transport so I'm a little restricted for venues... I work close to town though.. and get off work at 3pm on fridays. BTW has anybody played with AnyDBM_file?? particularily tieing multi-dimentional hashes to a dbm of some sort.. Cheers, Tim From apollock at bit.net.au Tue May 11 02:10:14 1999 From: apollock at bit.net.au (Andrew Pollock) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:59:03 2004 Subject: [BNE-PM] A meeting? In-Reply-To: <004701be9b77$4a8387a0$1200a8c0@tim> Message-ID: <011b01be9b7d$50d29d70$095e12cb@minotaur.bit.net.au> > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-brisbane-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > [mailto:owner-brisbane-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org]On Behalf Of Diggy > Tim > Sent: Tuesday, 11 May 1999 16:27 > To: Ramon Buckland; brisbane-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: Re: [BNE-PM] A meeting? > > > Sorry for the late response... These weeks have been a nightmare with the > PCIT preperations.. heheh, you too huh? > I'm fairly busy most weekdays... weekends and after work are ok.... I rely > on public transport so I'm a little restricted for venues... I > work close to > town though.. and get off work at 3pm on fridays. I work pretty apalling hours, but I could tear myself away for an after work meet somewhere, weekends are fine, I live near the City also. > BTW has anybody played with AnyDBM_file?? > particularily tieing multi-dimentional hashes to a dbm of some sort.. On a similar note, anyone managed to get BerkeleyDB to compile under Linux (Debian 2.0 to be precise)? Andrew From s1.brown at qut.edu.au Tue May 11 19:44:05 1999 From: s1.brown at qut.edu.au (Shane Brown) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:59:03 2004 Subject: [BNE-PM] me Message-ID: <3.0.32.19990512104359.00d8e800@pop.qut.edu.au> Hi, having recently joined the list, I thought it only fitting to warn|tell you about myself. I'm a Capricorn, I like long walks on the beach, my turn-ons are ... oops, wrong self. I'm a long term PhD drone, having been 2 weeks away from completion for the last 2 years or so (I keep forgetting that it needs 2 weeks of work, not 2 weeks of saying 'tomorrow ... I'll do some tomorrow'). The basic problem - an apparently pathological lack of interest in "sleep/circadian factors and their relationships with proactive interference". Currently I work in the School of Management at QUT: Research projects, swearing at the windows version of SPSS (piece of dog blowing #%&@#^ crap), and performing text/content analysis. As you might have guessed, the latter prompted my self-introduction to Perl. I would like to think I've come a long way from my first coding *success*. It was a complex web of redundant data, mangled algorithms and array slurped 30 meg files, spawned by minimal competence in a development process most closely matching voodoo. It ate my 300 meg NT paging file and burped for more than an hour. It also worked .... I was hooked. Now I'm a bit more sophisticated. I still get scared by the eval'ed closures I used for multiple regexes ; I haven't tried any OO stuff yet ; I forget basic syntax with frightening regularity... but I'm getting better. Really! My main focus now is on creating more comprehensive text analysis tools, and becoming more Perl proficient. I still don't know what I want to do when I grow up. ...anyway I'll end before you are unable to read through tears of boredom. On with stuff and thing. Shane. -------------------------------------------------------- Shane Brown s1.brown@qut.edu.au School of Management/ACSM (07) 3864 2790 Queensland University of Technology Z913,GP "All Hail Punchy the Robot" From G.Fletcher at mailbox.gu.edu.au Mon May 17 21:27:07 1999 From: G.Fletcher at mailbox.gu.edu.au (Gordon Fletcher) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:59:03 2004 Subject: [BNE-PM] Playing the meeting tag game Message-ID: Hi All Welcome on board to those who joined in the last week. If the messages have seemed somewhat obtuse in the last few days it is because we have been trying to find a mutually OK time to get together (You're input is most welcome too). It looks like we're up for two sessions - one lunchtime and one evening. How does an initial lunch at an 'Irish' pub in the city on a Friday sound? We could follow that up with an afternoon/evening thing say a coffee shop after work on a Friday (city again I suppose)? The suggestion of a weekend could be good for a change too maybe outside of the city (although West End type places get pretty busy then). Does this sound OK? If I can get enough 'ayes' I set about arranging some details for a couple of Fridays time. I also got this info about www.sourcexchange.com from O'Reilly's SourceXchange is an online exchange where sponsors with code development needs and Open Source developers can meet to create solutions together. Our framework makes it easy for sponsors to support Open Source projects that address their specific concerns--and it guarantees payment to the developers who work on those projects. In addition, sourceXchange guarantees developers that code written for an Open Source project will be released under the appropriate Open Source license and will be archived on a publicly available website so that anyone can download and use it. There has also been some cases in the US of Perl Monger groups being spammed by IT headhunters. This has caused a flurry of concern although the contact for the Melbourne.pm has intimated that they are not worried by this. FYI mainly. Gordon From Peter.Freiberg at env.qld.gov.au Mon May 17 23:06:55 1999 From: Peter.Freiberg at env.qld.gov.au (Peter Freiberg) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:59:03 2004 Subject: [BNE-PM] Playing the meeting tag game References: Message-ID: <3740E75E.30D81F1A@env.qld.gov.au> Hello all, I'm definitely in favor of a Lunch on Friday and the afternoon/evening coffee thing. Both mentioned locations sound fine to me. Peter. Gordon Fletcher wrote: > Hi All > > Welcome on board to those who joined in the last week. If the messages > have seemed somewhat obtuse in the last few days it is because we have > been trying to find a mutually OK time to get together (You're input is > most welcome too). > > It looks like we're up for two sessions - one lunchtime and one evening. > > How does an initial lunch at an 'Irish' pub in the city on a Friday sound? > We could follow that up with an afternoon/evening thing say a coffee shop > after work on a Friday (city again I suppose)? > > The suggestion of a weekend could be good for a change too maybe outside > of the city (although West End type places get pretty busy then). > > Does this sound OK? If I can get enough 'ayes' I set about arranging some > details for a couple of Fridays time. > > I also got this info about www.sourcexchange.com from O'Reilly's > SourceXchange is an online exchange where sponsors with code > development needs and Open Source developers can meet to create > solutions together. Our framework makes it easy for sponsors to > support Open Source projects that address their specific > concerns--and it guarantees payment to the developers who > work on those projects. In addition, sourceXchange guarantees > developers that code written for an Open Source project will be > released under the appropriate Open Source license and will be > archived on a publicly available website so that anyone can > download and use it. > > There has also been some cases in the US of Perl Monger groups being > spammed by IT headhunters. This has caused a flurry of concern although > the contact for the Melbourne.pm has intimated that they are not worried > by this. FYI mainly. > > Gordon -- ---------------------------------------------- Peter Freiberg Internet Technical Support Officer Department of Environment and Heritage Tel: 07 3227 8452 Fax: 07 3227 8455 E-mail: Peter.Freiberg@env.qld.gov.au Visit us online at http://www.env.qld.gov.au ---------------------------------------------- From bmarshal at plugged.net.au Tue May 18 00:53:22 1999 From: bmarshal at plugged.net.au (Brad Marshall) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:59:03 2004 Subject: [BNE-PM] Playing the meeting tag game In-Reply-To: ; from Gordon Fletcher on Tue, May 18, 1999 at 12:27:07PM +1000 References: Message-ID: <19990518155322.D24637@plugged.net.au> Hi all, > It looks like we're up for two sessions - one lunchtime and one evening. > > How does an initial lunch at an 'Irish' pub in the city on a Friday sound? Lunchtime in the city is generally out for me, as I work at St Lucia - maybe a meeting at UQ sometime? :) > We could follow that up with an afternoon/evening thing say a coffee shop > after work on a Friday (city again I suppose)? An after work meeting in the city would be fine for me. > The suggestion of a weekend could be good for a change too maybe outside > of the city (although West End type places get pretty busy then). If we can't find anywhere else, Humbug (http://www.humbug.org.au/) the local Unix group, meets every 2nd Saturday at UQ - I'm sure we can get some space there, if necessary. Thanks, Brad -- Bradley Marshall Sysadmin Plugged In Software From Tony.Irvine at env.qld.gov.au Wed May 19 03:48:50 1999 From: Tony.Irvine at env.qld.gov.au (Tony Irvine) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:59:03 2004 Subject: [BNE-PM] Playing the meeting tag game References: Message-ID: <37427AF2.46DEBBD4@env.qld.gov.au> Gordon Fletcher wrote: > Does this sound OK? If I can get enough 'ayes' I set about arranging some > details for a couple of Fridays time. Count me in. Lunch in the city is fine as is after work friday. Tony -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tony Irvine Information Support Officer Environmental Protection Agency Tel:(07)3227-7991 Fax:(07)3227-6534 E-Mail: Tony.Irvine@env.qld.gov.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From s1.brown at qut.edu.au Tue May 25 00:05:13 1999 From: s1.brown at qut.edu.au (Shane Brown) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:59:03 2004 Subject: [BNE-PM] A meeting? Message-ID: <3.0.32.19990525150503.00d677e0@pop.qut.edu.au> >BTW has anybody played with AnyDBM_file?? >particularily tieing multi-dimentional hashes to a dbm of some sort.. > >Cheers, >Tim ...if it's still of relevance or interest, I've been mucking around with MLDBM, which allows you to : "store multi-level hash structure in single level tied hash (read DBM)" (from the mldbm.PM docs). Hangs out at CPAN. Works nicely ... you can access stored stuff using the usual method ie : print $stuff{'thing'}{'neerb'}[3] ; but creating new sub-structures requires mucking around with temps like so : my $tmp = $stuff{'thing'} ; $tmp->{'neerb'}[3] = 'hoober' ; $stuff{'thing'} = $tmp ; Now I just need to find a DBM for Win32 that doesn't have limits on record size, as MLDBM defaults to SDBM_File ... which does. Any ideas ? Shane. From G.Fletcher at mailbox.gu.edu.au Thu May 27 21:16:00 1999 From: G.Fletcher at mailbox.gu.edu.au (Gordon Fletcher) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:59:03 2004 Subject: [BNE-PM] A meeting Message-ID: Well I've taken the comments on board and a Friday afternoon meet looks more plausible. So I propose from 5.30 next friday at Gilhooleys (taking up the suggestion of an Irish pub venue). I will try and get the Gilhooleys people to sort something out so that we can find each other. I'll email details if it is going to be too complex. Hopefully at least a few of us will be able to make it. Gordon