From jeremy at msc.tamu.edu Wed May 3 06:26:33 2006 From: jeremy at msc.tamu.edu (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 08:26:33 -0500 Subject: [Brazosvalley-pm] First Meeting possibilities Message-ID: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D2B0@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Okay, so far I have 2 votes for Chili's. Feel free to offer any more suggestions. The dates have been narrowed down to: Mon, 05/15/2006 - 7:00p Wed, 05/17/2006 - 7:00p Thu, 05/18/2006 - 7:00p Fri, 05/19/2006 - 7:00p I vote for either Monday or Thursday (though any of the other days will work). Anyone else? Jeremy -----Original Message----- From: brazosvalley-pm-bounces+jeremy=msc.tamu.edu at pm.org [mailto:brazosvalley-pm-bounces+jeremy=msc.tamu.edu at pm.org] On Behalf Of Kaustav Ghoshal Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 9:58 PM To: Brazos Valley Perl Mongers Subject: Re: [Brazosvalley-pm] First Meeting possibilities Hi all, I'm fine with all the dates.I think chilis is a good option. Kaustav On 4/28/06, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > Okay, so pretty much everyone agrees that our first meeting can happen > M-F around 7:00p at a restaurant close to the A&M campus. I have some > stuff going on next week, so I would probably not be able to do it then. > Here are a few options (feel free to add other days or options): > > > > Mon, 05/08/2006 - 7:00p > > Tue, 05/09/2006 - 7:00p > > > > Mon, 05/15/2006 - 7:00p > > Wed, 05/17/2006 - 7:00p > > Thu, 05/18/2006 - 7:00p > > Fri, 05/19/2006 - 7:00p > > > > And as for the location, I'm open to wherever. Off the top of my head, > some restaurants close to campus that I can think of are: > > Chili's (Texas Ave.) > > Mi Cocina (G Bush) > > Somewhere in Northgate (I'm not very familiar with what's all in > Northgate) > > > > Let me know what you guys think! > > > > Thanks, > > Jeremy > > > -- Greetings, Kaustav Ghoshal Graduate Assistant- Research Telecommunications Academy Texas A&M University www.kaustav.org (979)-571-8874 ________________________________________________________________________ _____________________ "...Suffering, as I am, from the sequential nature human of communication." ~E.W. Dijkstra _______________________________________________ http://brazosvalley.pm.org Brazosvalley-pm mailing list Brazosvalley-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/brazosvalley-pm From support at bettercgi.com Wed May 3 08:04:12 2006 From: support at bettercgi.com (Ray Morris) Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 10:04:12 -0500 Subject: [Brazosvalley-pm] First Meeting possibilities In-Reply-To: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D2B0@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> (from jeremy@msc.tamu.edu on Wed May 3 08:26:33 2006) References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D2B0@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Message-ID: <1146668652l.20290l.3l@raydesk1.bettercgi.com> Doesn't matter, man, just pick a day before we lose interest. ;) -- Ray B. Morris support at bettercgi.com Strongbox - The next generation in site security: http://www.bettercgi.com/strongbox/ On 05/03/2006 08:26:33 AM, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > Okay, so far I have 2 votes for Chili's. Feel free to offer any more > suggestions. > > The dates have been narrowed down to: > Mon, 05/15/2006 - 7:00p > Wed, 05/17/2006 - 7:00p > Thu, 05/18/2006 - 7:00p > Fri, 05/19/2006 - 7:00p > > I vote for either Monday or Thursday (though any of the other days > will > work). Anyone else? > > Jeremy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: brazosvalley-pm-bounces+jeremy=msc.tamu.edu at pm.org > [mailto:brazosvalley-pm-bounces+jeremy=msc.tamu.edu at pm.org] On Behalf > Of > Kaustav Ghoshal > Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 9:58 PM > To: Brazos Valley Perl Mongers > Subject: Re: [Brazosvalley-pm] First Meeting possibilities > > Hi all, > I'm fine with all the dates.I think chilis is a good option. > > Kaustav > > On 4/28/06, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > > Okay, so pretty much everyone agrees that our first meeting can > happen > > M-F around 7:00p at a restaurant close to the A&M campus. I have > some > > stuff going on next week, so I would probably not be able to do it > then. > > Here are a few options (feel free to add other days or options): > > > > > > > > Mon, 05/08/2006 - 7:00p > > > > Tue, 05/09/2006 - 7:00p > > > > > > > > Mon, 05/15/2006 - 7:00p > > > > Wed, 05/17/2006 - 7:00p > > > > Thu, 05/18/2006 - 7:00p > > > > Fri, 05/19/2006 - 7:00p > > > > > > > > And as for the location, I'm open to wherever. Off the top of my > head, > > some restaurants close to campus that I can think of are: > > > > Chili's (Texas Ave.) > > > > Mi Cocina (G Bush) > > > > Somewhere in Northgate (I'm not very familiar with what's all in > > Northgate) > > > > > > > > Let me know what you guys think! > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jeremy > > > > > > > > > -- > Greetings, > > Kaustav Ghoshal > > Graduate Assistant- Research > Telecommunications Academy > Texas A&M University > www.kaustav.org > (979)-571-8874 > ________________________________________________________________________ > _____________________ > "...Suffering, as I am, from the sequential nature human of > communication." ~E.W. Dijkstra > _______________________________________________ > http://brazosvalley.pm.org > Brazosvalley-pm mailing list > Brazosvalley-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/brazosvalley-pm > _______________________________________________ > http://brazosvalley.pm.org > Brazosvalley-pm mailing list > Brazosvalley-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/brazosvalley-pm > > From jeremy at msc.tamu.edu Wed May 3 09:03:35 2006 From: jeremy at msc.tamu.edu (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 11:03:35 -0500 Subject: [Brazosvalley-pm] First Meeting possibilities Message-ID: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D2B1@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Right-o! 1st Social meeting: Monday, May 15th at 7:00pm, Chili's on Texas Ave. -----Original Message----- From: brazosvalley-pm-bounces+jeremy=msc.tamu.edu at pm.org [mailto:brazosvalley-pm-bounces+jeremy=msc.tamu.edu at pm.org] On Behalf Of Ray Morris Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 10:04 AM To: Brazos Valley Perl Mongers Subject: Re: [Brazosvalley-pm] First Meeting possibilities Doesn't matter, man, just pick a day before we lose interest. ;) -- Ray B. Morris support at bettercgi.com Strongbox - The next generation in site security: http://www.bettercgi.com/strongbox/ On 05/03/2006 08:26:33 AM, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > Okay, so far I have 2 votes for Chili's. Feel free to offer any more > suggestions. > > The dates have been narrowed down to: > Mon, 05/15/2006 - 7:00p > Wed, 05/17/2006 - 7:00p > Thu, 05/18/2006 - 7:00p > Fri, 05/19/2006 - 7:00p > > I vote for either Monday or Thursday (though any of the other days > will > work). Anyone else? > > Jeremy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: brazosvalley-pm-bounces+jeremy=msc.tamu.edu at pm.org > [mailto:brazosvalley-pm-bounces+jeremy=msc.tamu.edu at pm.org] On Behalf > Of > Kaustav Ghoshal > Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 9:58 PM > To: Brazos Valley Perl Mongers > Subject: Re: [Brazosvalley-pm] First Meeting possibilities > > Hi all, > I'm fine with all the dates.I think chilis is a good option. > > Kaustav > > On 4/28/06, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > > Okay, so pretty much everyone agrees that our first meeting can > happen > > M-F around 7:00p at a restaurant close to the A&M campus. I have > some > > stuff going on next week, so I would probably not be able to do it > then. > > Here are a few options (feel free to add other days or options): > > > > > > > > Mon, 05/08/2006 - 7:00p > > > > Tue, 05/09/2006 - 7:00p > > > > > > > > Mon, 05/15/2006 - 7:00p > > > > Wed, 05/17/2006 - 7:00p > > > > Thu, 05/18/2006 - 7:00p > > > > Fri, 05/19/2006 - 7:00p > > > > > > > > And as for the location, I'm open to wherever. Off the top of my > head, > > some restaurants close to campus that I can think of are: > > > > Chili's (Texas Ave.) > > > > Mi Cocina (G Bush) > > > > Somewhere in Northgate (I'm not very familiar with what's all in > > Northgate) > > > > > > > > Let me know what you guys think! > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jeremy > > > > > > > > > -- > Greetings, > > Kaustav Ghoshal > > Graduate Assistant- Research > Telecommunications Academy > Texas A&M University > www.kaustav.org > (979)-571-8874 > ________________________________________________________________________ > _____________________ > "...Suffering, as I am, from the sequential nature human of > communication." ~E.W. Dijkstra > _______________________________________________ > http://brazosvalley.pm.org > Brazosvalley-pm mailing list > Brazosvalley-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/brazosvalley-pm > _______________________________________________ > http://brazosvalley.pm.org > Brazosvalley-pm mailing list > Brazosvalley-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/brazosvalley-pm > > _______________________________________________ http://brazosvalley.pm.org Brazosvalley-pm mailing list Brazosvalley-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/brazosvalley-pm From kghoshal at gmail.com Wed May 3 09:05:24 2006 From: kghoshal at gmail.com (Kaustav Ghoshal) Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 11:05:24 -0500 Subject: [Brazosvalley-pm] First Meeting possibilities In-Reply-To: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D2B1@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D2B1@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Message-ID: <69501540605030905saf63f70if0220ea025cdaefe@mail.gmail.com> great....see y'all there... ~kaustav On 5/3/06, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > > Right-o! > > 1st Social meeting: Monday, May 15th at 7:00pm, Chili's on Texas Ave. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: brazosvalley-pm-bounces+jeremy=msc.tamu.edu at pm.org > [mailto:brazosvalley-pm-bounces+jeremy=msc.tamu.edu at pm.org] On Behalf Of > Ray Morris > Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 10:04 AM > To: Brazos Valley Perl Mongers > Subject: Re: [Brazosvalley-pm] First Meeting possibilities > > Doesn't matter, man, just pick a day before > we lose interest. ;) > -- > Ray B. Morris > support at bettercgi.com > > Strongbox - The next generation in site security: > http://www.bettercgi.com/strongbox/ > > > > > On 05/03/2006 08:26:33 AM, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > > Okay, so far I have 2 votes for Chili's. Feel free to offer any more > > suggestions. > > > > The dates have been narrowed down to: > > Mon, 05/15/2006 - 7:00p > > Wed, 05/17/2006 - 7:00p > > Thu, 05/18/2006 - 7:00p > > Fri, 05/19/2006 - 7:00p > > > > I vote for either Monday or Thursday (though any of the other days > > will > > work). Anyone else? > > > > Jeremy > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: brazosvalley-pm-bounces+jeremy=msc.tamu.edu at pm.org > > [mailto:brazosvalley-pm-bounces+jeremy=msc.tamu.edu at pm.org] On Behalf > > Of > > Kaustav Ghoshal > > Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 9:58 PM > > To: Brazos Valley Perl Mongers > > Subject: Re: [Brazosvalley-pm] First Meeting possibilities > > > > Hi all, > > I'm fine with all the dates.I think chilis is a good option. > > > > Kaustav > > > > On 4/28/06, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > > > Okay, so pretty much everyone agrees that our first meeting can > > happen > > > M-F around 7:00p at a restaurant close to the A&M campus. I have > > some > > > stuff going on next week, so I would probably not be able to do it > > then. > > > Here are a few options (feel free to add other days or options): > > > > > > > > > > > > Mon, 05/08/2006 - 7:00p > > > > > > Tue, 05/09/2006 - 7:00p > > > > > > > > > > > > Mon, 05/15/2006 - 7:00p > > > > > > Wed, 05/17/2006 - 7:00p > > > > > > Thu, 05/18/2006 - 7:00p > > > > > > Fri, 05/19/2006 - 7:00p > > > > > > > > > > > > And as for the location, I'm open to wherever. Off the top of my > > head, > > > some restaurants close to campus that I can think of are: > > > > > > Chili's (Texas Ave.) > > > > > > Mi Cocina (G Bush) > > > > > > Somewhere in Northgate (I'm not very familiar with what's all in > > > Northgate) > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know what you guys think! > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Jeremy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Greetings, > > > > Kaustav Ghoshal > > > > Graduate Assistant- Research > > Telecommunications Academy > > Texas A&M University > > www.kaustav.org > > (979)-571-8874 > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > _____________________ > > "...Suffering, as I am, from the sequential nature human of > > communication." ~E.W. Dijkstra > > _______________________________________________ > > http://brazosvalley.pm.org > > Brazosvalley-pm mailing list > > Brazosvalley-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/brazosvalley-pm > > _______________________________________________ > > http://brazosvalley.pm.org > > Brazosvalley-pm mailing list > > Brazosvalley-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/brazosvalley-pm > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://brazosvalley.pm.org > Brazosvalley-pm mailing list > Brazosvalley-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/brazosvalley-pm > _______________________________________________ > http://brazosvalley.pm.org > Brazosvalley-pm mailing list > Brazosvalley-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/brazosvalley-pm > -- Greetings, Kaustav Ghoshal Graduate Assistant- Research Telecommunications Academy Texas A&M University www.kaustav.org (979)-571-8874 _____________________________________________________________________________________________ "...Suffering, as I am, from the sequential nature human of communication." ~E.W. Dijkstra -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/brazosvalley-pm/attachments/20060503/1216ae10/attachment.html From jeremy at msc.tamu.edu Mon May 8 15:42:26 2006 From: jeremy at msc.tamu.edu (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 17:42:26 -0500 Subject: [Brazosvalley-pm] First meeting Message-ID: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D2D5@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> I'm not sure what the headcount will be for the first get together next Monday (5/10), but I'll want to talk about ideas people have for the group. Being more of a 'social meeting' atmosphere, I'm not sure how much 'getting down to business' we'll actually get done, but the main thing I want to cover is technical meetings. It's something that can be covered on the list, so it's not that big of a deal, but I want to try to work out a recurring date/time and get an idea for some technical topics. I know that once we get fairly active, we can start trying to bring in a 'big name' or moderately big name here and there. One of the companies I did contract work for know Allison Randal and said that when she's in the area or doing some work for them, they can let me know and we can see about getting her to address the group. Please feel free to post any questions, comments, code samples, shortcuts, ideas, thoughts, or whatever to the list. Is anyone planning on going to YAPC::NA this year? I'm going to try. It looks like my only obstacle so far is travel. My wife and daughter would more than likely be going with me, so I just need to figure out how a 1-year-old will do with the trip. :-) Jeremy Jeremy Fluhmann Programmer/Analyst Memorial Student Center Texas A&M University 979-845-8893 jeremy at msc.tamu.edu This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail transmission in error, please notify me by telephone or via return e-mail and delete this e-mail from your system. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/brazosvalley-pm/attachments/20060508/c32eb0db/attachment.html From support at bettercgi.com Tue May 9 16:22:38 2006 From: support at bettercgi.com (Ray Morris) Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 18:22:38 -0500 Subject: [Brazosvalley-pm] First meeting Message-ID: <1147216958l.3673l.3l@raydesk1.bettercgi.com> > I'm not sure what the headcount will be for the first > get together next Monday (5/10) According to my calendar, Monday 5/10 won't happen until 2010. We ARE talking about next Monday, 2006-05-15, correct? For the real Perl geeks, that's 1150416000 CST, AKA 0b1000100100100011111010010000000 CST. ;) -- Note - So that we can better serve you, please mention the site name or URL that you are referring to in all emails. Ray B. Morris support at bettercgi.com Strongbox - The next generation in site security: http://www.bettercgi.com/strongbox/ On 05/08/2006 05:42:26 PM, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > I'm not sure what the headcount will be for the first get together > next > Monday (5/10), but I'll want to talk about ideas people have for the > group. Being more of a 'social meeting' atmosphere, I'm not sure how > much 'getting down to business' we'll actually get done, but the main > thing I want to cover is technical meetings. It's something that can > be > covered on the list, so it's not that big of a deal, but I want to > try > to work out a recurring date/time and get an idea for some technical > topics. > > > > I know that once we get fairly active, we can start trying to bring in > a > 'big name' or moderately big name here and there. One of the > companies > I did contract work for know Allison Randal and said that when she's > in > the area or doing some work for them, they can let me know and we can > see about getting her to address the group. > > > > Please feel free to post any questions, comments, code samples, > shortcuts, ideas, thoughts, or whatever to the list. Is anyone > planning > on going to YAPC::NA this year? I'm going to try. It looks like my > only obstacle so far is travel. My wife and daughter would more than > likely be going with me, so I just need to figure out how a > 1-year-old > will do with the trip. :-) > > > > Jeremy > > > > > > Jeremy Fluhmann > Programmer/Analyst > Memorial Student Center > Texas A&M University > 979-845-8893 > jeremy at msc.tamu.edu > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential. If > you > are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this > information is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail > transmission > in error, please notify me by telephone or via return e-mail and > delete > this e-mail from your system. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://brazosvalley.pm.org > Brazosvalley-pm mailing list > Brazosvalley-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/brazosvalley-pm > From jeremy at msc.tamu.edu Tue May 9 19:06:51 2006 From: jeremy at msc.tamu.edu (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 21:06:51 -0500 Subject: [Brazosvalley-pm] First meeting Message-ID: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF010082DC@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> > According to my calendar, Monday 5/10 won't happen > until 2010. We ARE talking about next Monday, 2006-05-15, > correct? For the real Perl geeks, that's 1150416000 CST, > AKA 0b1000100100100011111010010000000 CST. ;) I wasn't sure if this coming Monday (5/15) was too soon so I wanted to give everyone a 4 year advanced notice. ;-) I guess 5/10 stuck in my head because I'm going to Austin for a workshop. Anyway, Monday, May 15th, 2006, 7:00p @ Chili's on Texas Ave. Jeremy http://brazosvalley.pm.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3568 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/brazosvalley-pm/attachments/20060509/9d41709d/attachment.bin From jeremy at msc.tamu.edu Mon May 15 12:03:17 2006 From: jeremy at msc.tamu.edu (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 14:03:17 -0500 Subject: [Brazosvalley-pm] Meeting tonight at Chilis Message-ID: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D300@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Just wanted to remind everyone of the "meeting" tonight. Chili's on Texas Ave. (1063 Texas Ave., College Station, 979-696-4261) 7:00p They don't take reservations, so I'm just supposed to call them when I'm on my way and they'll setup the table(s). It'll be under 'The Perl Group'. The mailing list has 10 people on it right now, but I know not everyone will make it. I'm not expecting a grand turnout, but I'm hoping to at least get some things established for the group and have the opportunity to meet some of you. I'll send a summary of what was discussed to the list and everyone, especially those that weren't able to attend, can comment and make suggestions. If you plan on attending, please let me know so that I can have a better estimate to give Chili's when I call. So far I have three people for sure. Thanks, Jeremy Jeremy Fluhmann Programmer/Analyst Memorial Student Center Texas A&M University 979-845-8893 jeremy at msc.tamu.edu This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail transmission in error, please notify me by telephone or via return e-mail and delete this e-mail from your system. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/brazosvalley-pm/attachments/20060515/5463d58b/attachment.html From support at bettercgi.com Mon May 15 12:32:05 2006 From: support at bettercgi.com (Ray Morris) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 14:32:05 -0500 Subject: [Brazosvalley-pm] Meeting tonight at Chilis In-Reply-To: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D300@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> (from jeremy@msc.tamu.edu on Mon May 15 14:03:17 2006) References: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D300@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> Message-ID: <1147721525l.13464l.2l@raydesk1.bettercgi.com> I'll be there. Well, unless I'm plannning on it until 6 PM and then between 6 and 7 I totally forget about it. I tend to be an absent minded professor. BTW I though about something that may be an interesting topic for some meeting and a way to learn a bit. I wonder what you guys think of this. We could hold a code review, where we go through some existing code line by line looking for what the author has done already and what could be improved regarding performance, correctness, robustness, style, etc. That can be VERY informative. For example I have a script I'd been working on for about 5 years now, a pretty simple script, and though I've been a Perl professional for some time and know my stuff pretty well, I'm sure you guys, looking at the code with a fresh pair of eyes, could easily point out 100 places in the code where I could have done something better. I know I still spot things every so often even though I've looked at the code thousands of times. There are also tricks I already used in the code that may be interesting to some people. For example, I faced a problem - I had an operation that needed to query an external server, which would take at least two seconds. Given the application, I couldn't allow more than one second for the operation. I couldn't speed up the operation and I couldn't wait any longer than one second for it to run, so I found a way to run a two second long, yet even though it takes two seconds to run it finishes after just a few milliseconds. A ghood trick, that one. Actually that trick reminds me of another possible topic. We could have a challenge. Everybody codes up a script to solve a simple problem posed in the challenge and then we compare solutions and learn from each other. One interesting challenge was one I came across a few years ago on a local radio station. One of the stations here, 99.5 I think, used to have "the telephone game". In the telephone game, the DJ would choose a secret word,for example, "program". They would then look at the numbers on the telephone key pad that represented those letters and give you the numbers IN RANDOM ORDER. So for the word "program they might say the numbers were 7, 6, 2, 4, 6 and 7. Each number could represent three or for different possible letters, so you don't know which letters are actually used, and they aren't given in order, so it's a very hard challenge. Even with a hint giving the general type of word it often took 30 minutes or more for someone to call in with the correct answer. I wanted to win the prize as often as possible, so I wrote a simple script that would solve the puzzle in under two seconds on my 500Mhz machine. I'd dial in as soon as he started reading the numbers and by the time he answered the phone my script give me all of the English words matching those numbers, from which I would choose based on the hint. It would be interesting to see how other people would go about writing something like that and how fast we could get it to run. As I said, mine ran in less than 2 seconds, I don't remember exactly how fast it was. -- Note - So that we can better serve you, please mention the site name or URL that you are referring to in all emails. Ray B. Morris support at bettercgi.com Strongbox - The next generation in site security: http://www.bettercgi.com/strongbox/ On 05/15/2006 02:03:17 PM, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > Just wanted to remind everyone of the "meeting" tonight. > > > > Chili's on Texas Ave. (1063 Texas Ave., College Station, > 979-696-4261) > > 7:00p > > > > They don't take reservations, so I'm just supposed to call them when > I'm > on my way and they'll setup the table(s). It'll be under 'The Perl > Group'. The mailing list has 10 people on it right now, but I know > not > everyone will make it. I'm not expecting a grand turnout, but I'm > hoping to at least get some things established for the group and have > the opportunity to meet some of you. I'll send a summary of what was > discussed to the list and everyone, especially those that weren't > able > to attend, can comment and make suggestions. > > > > If you plan on attending, please let me know so that I can have a > better > estimate to give Chili's when I call. So far I have three people for > sure. > > > > Thanks, > Jeremy > > > > Jeremy Fluhmann > Programmer/Analyst > Memorial Student Center > Texas A&M University > 979-845-8893 > jeremy at msc.tamu.edu > > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential. If > you > are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this > information is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail > transmission > in error, please notify me by telephone or via return e-mail and > delete > this e-mail from your system. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://brazosvalley.pm.org > Brazosvalley-pm mailing list > Brazosvalley-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/brazosvalley-pm > From PAcharya at lib-gw.tamu.edu Mon May 15 14:46:26 2006 From: PAcharya at lib-gw.tamu.edu (Prabha Acharya) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 16:46:26 -0500 Subject: [Brazosvalley-pm] Meeting tonight at Chilis Message-ID: Hello All, I am new to this group, let me introduce myself. I am a programmer analyst working in the TAMU Libraries and write some Perl scripts although for the most part my work is in PHP. I am quite new to Perl - started using it only in the past year and am glad that I can pick your brains :) I would have liked to attend today's meeting but have something else planned at that time. Will join you folks next time. A special thanks to Jeremy for setting up this group. Have a good day! Prabha >>> jeremy at msc.tamu.edu 05/15 2:03 PM >>> Just wanted to remind everyone of the "meeting" tonight. Chili's on Texas Ave. (1063 Texas Ave., College Station, 979-696-4261) 7:00p They don't take reservations, so I'm just supposed to call them when I'm on my way and they'll setup the table(s). It'll be under 'The Perl Group'. The mailing list has 10 people on it right now, but I know not everyone will make it. I'm not expecting a grand turnout, but I'm hoping to at least get some things established for the group and have the opportunity to meet some of you. I'll send a summary of what was discussed to the list and everyone, especially those that weren't able to attend, can comment and make suggestions. If you plan on attending, please let me know so that I can have a better estimate to give Chili's when I call. So far I have three people for sure. Thanks, Jeremy Jeremy Fluhmann Programmer/Analyst Memorial Student Center Texas A&M University 979-845-8893 jeremy at msc.tamu.edu This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail transmission in error, please notify me by telephone or via return e-mail and delete this e-mail from your system. From jeremy at msc.tamu.edu Wed May 17 06:29:30 2006 From: jeremy at msc.tamu.edu (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 08:29:30 -0500 Subject: [Brazosvalley-pm] Meeting tonight at Chilis Message-ID: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D30A@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> > I am new to this group, let me introduce myself. I am a programmer > analyst working in the TAMU Libraries and write some Perl scripts > although for the most part my work is in PHP. I am quite new to Perl - > started using it only in the past year and am glad that I can pick your > brains :) Welcome to the group, Prabha! I'm the Programmer/Analyst for the Memorial Student Center at TAMU. > I would have liked to attend today's meeting but have something else > planned at that time. Will join you folks next time. A special thanks to > Jeremy for setting up this group. Thanks! I'm going to be working on setting up the next meeting for the first part of June. It'll probably be at an office building or meeting room somewhere. I want to get a better sense for what people are interested in so that I can have a better idea of what future meeting topics might be. Again, welcome to the group! Jeremy From jeremy at msc.tamu.edu Thu May 18 10:05:55 2006 From: jeremy at msc.tamu.edu (Jeremy Fluhmann) Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 12:05:55 -0500 Subject: [Brazosvalley-pm] from first meeting Message-ID: <0EFEDF9D507FF6409CE7B4D24B20E7BF0120D317@xchng.msc.tamu.edu> We finally had our first 'get together' this past Monday. Seven people showed up, which is great because it was a few more than I had expected. As I mentioned that night, I'm working with the Houston group to prepare a bid proposal to bring YAPC (Yet Another Perl Conference) to Houston next year. I'm not certain if the Houston group will want to take full ownership or join with us as a partnership, but when I approached their group leader with the idea of hosting YAPC::NA, my intent was as a partnership between our groups. If everyone likes the idea, I will continue to pursue it as a partnership. Jim mentioned that the group he advises, Cepheid Variable, could possibly be a large part of our volunteer base (and resource for conference advice). That would be great! Ray had mentioned about possibly having a code review session. I think that's a great idea. It would allow everyone to see various ways that other people do things as well as possibly help the code being reviewed to be more efficient. This could also give some of the 'newbie' Perl people exposure to some more advanced Perl programming. Thanks to everyone that was able to make the social meeting. I look forward to meeting with everyone again. Thanks, Jeremy http://brazosvalley.pm.org Jeremy Fluhmann Programmer/Analyst Memorial Student Center Texas A&M University 979-845-8893 jeremy at msc.tamu.edu This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential. 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I know MicroAge has provided some other groups with meeting space, but I'm not sure where else in the area would do this. I'll do some searching this weekend and see if I come up with anything. I'm planning on having the next meeting early-, to mid-June, as long as we can find a meeting location. I'm still working on recruiting new members, so if anyone knows of some other people that might be interested, please direct them to the website (http://brazosvalley.pm.org ) and have them join the mailing list. I'm using the mailing list to keep track of our numbers. I know that not everyone on the list is local, but I can kind of pick those people out. I think at least two of the people that were at the social meeting aren't on the list yet (Chris - BioPerl girl, and James - new Perl guy), but I'm going to try and remember at the next meeting to make sure everyone knows about the list if they're not on it. 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In 1997, the rules stated that any programming language could be used so long as you solved the problem, so then-undergraduate Keith Chiem entered and used Perl. Keith did not merely win, he conquered. He solved five of the six problems in the three hours allotted. The second-place two-person team solved only three problems. They, needless to say, were not using Perl. But if you're a UCLA undergraduate contemplating entering the contest and using Perl, don't bother. After Keith's conquest, Perl was banned from the contest. You've got to admire a language that is banned because it makes problems too easy to solve. These days, Keith is reportedly a sysadmin at Yahoo! Inc., and is wondering what to do with the copy of Visual C++ that was his prize. -- -=Sean Edwards=- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks Sonali Technozant 773-693-0147 sonali at technozant.com www.technozant.com Our client is looking for an experienced Perl programmer to maintain and develop software for our high availability, high traffic web applications. If you are a Senior level Engineer with a ?do-what-it-takes? attitude, and you thrive on making a difference then this is the place for you. Based in Austin, Texas, Our client supports and develops full-service shipping technologies for Fortune 100 companies, and major European carriers. This position will give you the opportunity to work closely with our local development team as well as with other groups in the US and Europe. We combine the advantages of a dynamic, high-energy start-up environment in a small team locally with the perks of a large multi-national parent corporation with financial stability and great employee benefits. Your key responsibilities will include: ? Designing and developing software used by thousands of users a day according to functional and technical design specifications ? Maintaining software currently used by major corporations and carriers ? Working closely with various teams- business, QA, operations, development to design and develop new products ? Brainstorming with other brilliant people to change the future of online shipping ? Enjoying your job and having fun at work Skills required: ? 3-5 years programming experience with an emphasis on web based applications ? Advanced knowledge of Perl combined with strong Javascript experience ? Familiarity with Unix/Linux environment and SQL ? Solid, demonstrated problem solving skills ? Excellent written and verbal communication skills ? The ability to multi-task and meet deadlines in a fast-paced, dynamic environment ? Must have a strong work ethic and be a fast learner/self starter Experience desired: ? Some Java is desirable but not required ? Some experience/familiarity with Mason or emb Perl ? Knowledge of XML technologies/languages and APIs for processing XML ? Knowledge of client technologies including XHTML/CSS ? Experience with Apache/Tomcat, mod_perl, CVS, AJAX ? Some project lead experience highly desired What we offer to our employees: ? Competitive compensation including base salary and bonus potential ? Excellent benefits including medical, dental, vision and life insurance ? 401(k) plan with generous matching and no vesting requirement ? Dynamic, cohesive work environment with people who enjoy working with each other ? Small startup company environment plus a stable, profitable parent company ? Opportunity to work with diverse group of people in Europe as well as the US ? Convenient nearly downtown office ? Free breakfast tacos every Friday! Our client is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action Employer, M/F/D/V. Must be eligible for employment in the United States as a U.S. citizen or permanent resident. Local candidates strongly preferred although relocation can be considered for the perfect candidate. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/brazosvalley-pm/attachments/20060519/49302259/attachment-0001.html From support at bettercgi.com Wed May 24 01:10:20 2006 From: support at bettercgi.com (Ray Morris) Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 03:10:20 -0500 Subject: [Brazosvalley-pm] Perl banned from competition - 1997 Message-ID: <1148458220l.9699l.7l@raydesk1.bettercgi.com> Remind's me of a (mis)quote - A good C programmer can write a Perl interpreter, but a good Perl programmer can write a C pretty printer before the C programmer is half way done declaring variables. The original quote was C versus VB, but I figure it applies. I don't recall if that was Bruce McKinney or Dan Appleman who said that ... -- Ray B. Morris support at bettercgi.com Strongbox - The next generation in site security: http://www.bettercgi.com/strongbox/ On 05/19/2006 09:19:34 AM, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: > At the social meeting, I mentioned a story about Perl being banned > from > a competition for making the contest problems too easy to solve. > Here > is a copy of the original article.... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sean J. Edwards > > Originally posted on www.perl.org in 1997: > > Perl "Too Good" > > > This is a true story. Names have not been changed. > > UCLA's Computer Science Undergraduate Association regularly hosts its > programming competition. Contestants are given six complex problems > and > have three hours to write programs to solve as many of the problems > as > possible. In 1997, the rules stated that any programming language > could > be used so long as you solved the problem, so then-undergraduate > Keith > Chiem entered and used Perl. > > Keith did not merely win, he conquered. He solved five of the six > problems in the three hours allotted. The second-place two-person > team > solved only three problems. They, needless to say, were not using > Perl. > > But if you're a UCLA undergraduate contemplating entering the contest > and using Perl, don't bother. After Keith's conquest, Perl was banned > from the contest. > > You've got to admire a language that is banned because it makes > problems > too easy to solve. > > These days, Keith is reportedly a sysadmin at Yahoo! Inc., and is > wondering what to do with the copy of Visual C++ that was his prize. > > -- > -=Sean Edwards=- > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://brazosvalley.pm.org > Brazosvalley-pm mailing list > Brazosvalley-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/brazosvalley-pm > From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Wed May 31 21:11:05 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 23:11:05 -0500 Subject: [Brazosvalley-pm] YAPC::NA Message-ID: <49d805d70605312111r364c211cg60d5aabd0e050efb@mail.gmail.com> Hi there fellow Perl Mongers. I'm writing to remind you all that YAPC::NA is only a few weeks away. The conference will be held in Chicago June 26th through 28th and will feature four simultaneous sessions of Perl talks for three days in addition to a job fair, banquet, and auction. After the conference Damian Conway, Randal Schwartz, and brian d foy will be sticking around and conducting professional training classes and extremely reduced prices. This email is a little spammy (sorry about that), but I just wanted to remind you all about the conference and also ask for your help in promoting it so that we can fill up the few spots that are remaining. For more information check out http://www.yapcchicago.org. We invite you to put up posters: http://yapcchicago.org/yapc_poster.pdf http://yapcchicago.org/yapc_poster_white.pdf Or maybe a web banner: http://www.yapcchicago.org/yapc_banner_wide.jpg http://www.yapcchicago.org/yapc_banner_narrow.jpg Thank you for your help in making YAPC a success once again, Josh McAdams