[boulder.pm] Stein, "Network Programming With Perl"

jeff saenz jeff at planetoid.net
Wed Jan 10 13:23:48 CST 2001


Justin

Does the system include any kind of bounce handling/mgmt? I saw a module in
majordomo2 that can be plugged in to provide automatic bouncing.

jeff

Justin Simoni wrote:

> > I'm Walter, I'm 42, and I have less hair every day.  ;^)
>
> hello Walter, actualy, now my hair is green, and kinda dirty  blind, I have
> to redie it, or people will start to think I'm a perl street bum and give me
> change.Which I'll take anyways,
>
> > you undertook this project for a reason, and knowing that might help
> > folks understand the differences between Mojo Mail and major(domo|cool)
> > or Mailman.  Do you have a FAQ list or something (I didn't see one).
>
> i was an owner of a few majordomo lists, and not a happy person about it.
> Every time a mailing would get out, I (as the owner) would be deluged with
> bounced, arrgh.  Also, the site was a youth-oriented skateboard site, so the
> visitors would have trouble with the directions. I'm a very visual person,
> and majordomos email interface was somewhat clunky,
>
> subscribe [password] <thislist> "email address"
>
> i never got the hang of it, and being the lazy person I am, wrote my own
> little MLM :) Mojo is more oriented to regular people, its all web-based,
> all visual, 'Mac-Like' in its simplicity, but roaring with features (now
> anyways). The 2.4 release is a major overhaul of its archiving system,
> (which, is still very simple)  and includes full smtp support.
>
> Lists take a minute to make, you give the password, enter a List Name, a
> list owner e-mail address, and the list is made! plunk in all your favorite
> friends and *click* you have a list. Mojo takes care of automatically
> message archiving, keeping the list clean, what have you.
>
> But mostly, mojo was a change for me to experiment with Perl and learn it.
> If you go through the source code of each release, you'll see what I
> probably learned in that time period, (the flavor of the week) early
> versions showed that I could create  a somewhat large script without strict
> :) the next version showed I could rewrite a totally fumbled script using
> strict() , another version might show how I learned how to create modules,
> link them up, use them with 'use' 'require'., make OO modules, Use CGI html
> shortcuts, yadda yadda yadda.
>
> The design of the program, the html you'll actually see, is just as
> important as the junk that somehow makes it work, How do I make an
> incredibly difficult task easy for the user? example? How do I send my
> message to 50,000 people using the Bulkmail module as the sender. Well, in
> your contro panel, go to sending options and click 'Use SMTP' all the
> functions are like that.  What's the point of a program if you can't use it?
>
> I released it as open source, just to share, and after a while, I got a
> following, One time I was testing a beta and screwed up a /few/ test
> sendings, what happened? My entire announce list of about 350 got about 10
> weird test messages that didn't amke any sense. Did everyone unsubscribe
> from the list? NO! I worte an apology and about a quarter of the list wrote
> back saying 'no problem happens all the time with me'
>
> Also, I didn't know about Majordomo2, but it still looks like a pain to
> install, and way to complex for me. Mailman looks very elegant,  really like
> the user page for every susbscriber.
>
> and finally, I heard it got the chicks, anyone have luck with that?
>
> I still see myself as not a beginning Perl hacker, but one rung up, there's
> probably code in there that anyone else on this list will wince at. its all
> a learning experiance.
>
> justin
>
>
>
> >
> > I'm looking at your page on features, and it looks pretty nice, but tell
> > me:  you undertook this project for a reason, and knowing that might help
> > folks understand the differences between Mojo Mail and major(domo|cool)
> > or Mailman.  Do you have a FAQ list or something (I didn't see one).
> >
> > And a general announcement regarding the Stein book:  since I posted
> > about it last night, I'm waiting 24 hours to give everyone, no matter
> > what their weird hours may be, a chance for Fame and Fortune (well, a
> > free book at least).
> >
> > Walter
> >
> >




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