[boulder.pm] BOUNCE boulder-pm-list@pm.org: Non-member submission from ["J. Wayde Allen" <wallen@its.bldrdoc.gov>] (fwd)

Walter Pienciak walter at frii.com
Wed Jan 10 12:59:11 CST 2001


Hi, Wayde,

I'm sorry; I wasn't being clear.  The admins at pm.org have
configured their majordomo so that this is NOT a configurable
option for any of the lists run off their server.

Walter

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    Wayde Allen" <wallen at its.bldrdoc.gov>]

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From: "J. Wayde Allen" <wallen at its.bldrdoc.gov>
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Subject: RE: [boulder.pm] "nonmember bounces"
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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Jim Baker wrote:

> It appears that we have a feature request for Justin :)
>
> I don't know about the breadth of competitors in the majordomo market, but
> the last time I looked, majordomo is written to Perl 4.  So it's a bit on
> the ungainly, monolithic side, as anything full featured would have to be.
> It would be nice if policy settings could be delegated from pm.org to
> specific groups like boulder.pm.org, so we can enjoy local autonomy both in
> the real world (preferences like hiking vs. scotch sipping) and in the
> virtual one.  Maybe this can be done in majordomo, but I suspect that it's
> not easy, or is not too robust/secure, or this would be currently done.

I ran the BLUG lists as well as several others using majordomo for many
years.  What you are talking about doing is actually possible and
relatively easy and straight forward.  The list administrator simply
e-mails the server command address (same address you subscribe at) with
the message:

    config list_name list_password

He is then sent back a text config file that describes his current list
settings.  These can be modified and then sent back to the list server as:

   newconfig list_name list_password
   The new config file text here ...

That's all there is to it!  The shortcomings of majordomo lie in its lack
of built-in support for digests (Digests ARE possible, you just have to
create a separate digest list), difficulty in approving bounces without
ending up with the administrators address attached, a nice web
front-end, and archiving.

Mailman does the digests, has a nice web front-end, has a decent mechanism
for approving bounced posts, and does archives.  However, it would be nice
if there was a way to do regular expression searches on the subscriber
database to locate bad addresses.  Of course, since Mailman is written
using Python that could be an issue on this list <BIG GRIN>.

- Wayde
  (wallen at its.bldrdoc.gov)




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