From andrew-dated-1018311668.74efe8 at rivendale.net Wed Apr 3 18:21:07 2002 From: andrew-dated-1018311668.74efe8 at rivendale.net (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Free books Message-ID: <20020404002107.GA796@gandalf> Hi Just in case anyones missed it. Active state have an online survey (you can find a link to it on http://use.perl.org). Anyone who fills it in has a chance to win $1000 worth or O'Reilly books of their (the winners) choice. go fill in the survey already. andrew -- Aquarius: (Jan. 20 - Feb. 18) Gustav Holst will appear to you in a dream and refuse to leave until you agree that John Williams has been ripping him off for years. Horoscope supplied by the onion, http://www.theonion.com From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Thu Apr 4 03:02:23 2002 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Exegesis 4 Message-ID: <20020404100223.A13221@tux.blackstar.co.uk> ...is now out. You can find the link while you are looking for Andrew's Free Books link on use.perl.org Trendy package switching malarkey! Smart snake operator! And! More! m. -- My money don't jingle --said by me to Jane Doe before I realised it From andrew at soto.kasei.com Thu Apr 4 03:39:52 2002 From: andrew at soto.kasei.com (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Exegesis 4 In-Reply-To: <20020404100223.A13221@tux.blackstar.co.uk> References: <20020404100223.A13221@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020404093952.GB9676@rivendale.net> On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 10:02:23AM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > ...is now out. > > You can find the link while you are looking for Andrew's Free Books link > on use.perl.org > > Trendy package switching malarkey! Smart snake operator! And! More! Hmm ... I assumed everybody knew this already that's why I didn't mention it. I actually found the free books thing while reading what peeps had said about the exegesis. andrew -- Virgo: (Aug. 23 - Sept. 22) Anger and frustration overtake you when you decide that if you cannot have Betty Rubble, no man will. (c) Copyright 2002 by Onion, Inc. All rights reserved. From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Thu Apr 4 03:52:49 2002 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Exegesis 4 In-Reply-To: <20020404093952.GB9676@rivendale.net>; from Andrew Wilson on Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 10:39:52AM +0100 References: <20020404100223.A13221@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020404093952.GB9676@rivendale.net> Message-ID: <20020404105249.D13221@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 10:39:52AM +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: > > I assumed everybody knew this already that's why I didn't mention it. > I actually found the free books thing while reading what peeps had said > about the exegesis. Considering I only read use.perl.org a few times a week, (it doesn't change *that* much) they must have only come up in the past few days. Or else I have been busy. You choose. m. -- No, YOU shut up From andrew at rivendale.net Thu Apr 4 06:12:22 2002 From: andrew at rivendale.net (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Exegesis 4 In-Reply-To: <20020404105249.D13221@tux.blackstar.co.uk> References: <20020404100223.A13221@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020404093952.GB9676@rivendale.net> <20020404105249.D13221@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020404121222.GA12054@rivendale.net> Hi On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 10:52:49AM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > Considering I only read use.perl.org a few times a week, (it doesn't > change *that* much) they must have only come up in the past few days. Or > else I have been busy. You choose. No need for a hissy fit or anything ;-) I didn't find it on use.perl.org, someone mentioned it on London.pm and others mentioned it on the perl6-language list. That's why I thought it was common knowledge, I know most people here read at least one of those. andrew -- Aquarius: (Jan. 20--Feb. 18) Your tragic visit to the U.S. Mint is a windfall for coin collectors, who will soon pay up to ,000 for pennies stamped with tiny pieces of you. (c) Copyright 2002 by Onion, Inc. All rights reserved. From swm at swmcc.com Thu Apr 4 08:28:48 2002 From: swm at swmcc.com (Stephen McCullough) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: April Meeting Message-ID: <20020404152848.A19960@gandalf.swmcc.com> Hi, Is there an meeting this month? And if so, where and when? Cheers, -- Stephen McCullough http://www.swmcc.com Homer: "Getting out of jury duty is easy. The trick is to say you're prejudiced against all races." From steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk Fri Apr 5 03:44:45 2002 From: steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Monday Message-ID: <20020405104445.A7836@blackstar.co.uk> Right. We're supposed to be meeting on Monday, so how about getting together in a pub somewhere for a quiet drink so that we can actually remember what each other looks like. A social meeting I believe it would be called! On a related matter do we need a glorious leader to organise these things? We're about as organised as the Leicester City defence at the moment and could do with someone properly organising us. Thoughts? Steve -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk Eeek, out of cheese error. From perl.belfast at kasei.com Fri Apr 5 04:08:02 2002 From: perl.belfast at kasei.com (Marty) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Monday In-Reply-To: <20020405104445.A7836@blackstar.co.uk> References: <20020405104445.A7836@blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020405100802.GC28075@soto.kasei.com> On Fri Apr 5 10:44:45 2002, Steve Rushe wrote: > Right. We're supposed to be meeting on Monday, so how about getting > together in a pub somewhere for a quiet drink so that we can actually > remember what each other looks like. A social meeting I believe it > would be called! I don't know if I can make it, but I think that is a good idea. > On a related matter do we need a glorious leader to organise these > things? We're about as organised as the Leicester City defence at the > moment and could do with someone properly organising us. Thoughts? I think you've just volunteered :-) -- Marty -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 220 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/archives/belfast-pm/attachments/20020405/af5c43cf/attachment.bin From swm at swmcc.com Fri Apr 5 03:51:28 2002 From: swm at swmcc.com (Stephen McCullough) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Monday In-Reply-To: <20020405104445.A7836@blackstar.co.uk>; from steve-pmbelfast@blackstar.co.uk on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 10:44:45AM +0100 References: <20020405104445.A7836@blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020405105128.A20643@gandalf.swmcc.com> Hi, > Right. We're supposed to be meeting on Monday, so how about getting > together in a pub somewhere for a quiet drink so that we can actually > remember what each other looks like. A social meeting I believe it > would be called! Cool. Which pub then and can we at least get an overview of your Mail::Audit talk? -- Stephen McCullough http://www.swmcc.com [Homer in the hospital for a coronary bypass] The bed goes up ... the bed goes down. The bed goes up ... the bed goes down. The bed goes up ... the bed goes down. The bed goes up ... the bed goes down. From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Fri Apr 5 04:20:47 2002 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Monday In-Reply-To: <20020405100802.GC28075@soto.kasei.com>; from Marty on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 11:08:02AM +0100 References: <20020405104445.A7836@blackstar.co.uk> <20020405100802.GC28075@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20020405112047.F28967@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 11:08:02AM +0100, Marty wrote: > On Fri Apr 5 10:44:45 2002, Steve Rushe wrote: > > Right. We're supposed to be meeting on Monday, so how about getting > > together in a pub somewhere for a quiet drink so that we can actually > > remember what each other looks like. A social meeting I believe it > > would be called! > > I don't know if I can make it, but I think that is a good idea. > > > On a related matter do we need a glorious leader to organise these > > things? We're about as organised as the Leicester City defence at the > > moment and could do with someone properly organising us. Thoughts? > > I think you've just volunteered :-) Go Steve, go Steve, go Steve. And, fyi, the LCFC defence *is* well organised. They are just useless. It is a different matter. m. -- Ever since I could talk I've been ordered to listen From bazza at bazza.com Fri Apr 5 04:48:59 2002 From: bazza at bazza.com (barry) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Monday In-Reply-To: <20020405105128.A20643@gandalf.swmcc.com> References: <20020405104445.A7836@blackstar.co.uk> <20020405105128.A20643@gandalf.swmcc.com> Message-ID: <20020405104859.GA19034@bazza.com> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 10:51:28AM +0100, swm mumbled: > Hi, > > Right. We're supposed to be meeting on Monday, so how about getting > > together in a pub somewhere for a quiet drink so that we can actually > > remember what each other looks like. A social meeting I believe it > > would be called! > Cool. Which pub then and can we at least get an overview of your > Mail::Audit talk? it'd be about time for that, and he can even pour over my install, see if he can see if it's Mail::Audit's fault that I can't make it bounce messages, but it'll save and discard them with nae bo'her -- -Barry Hughes I like work, it's fascinating, I can sit and look at it for hours on end http://bazza.com/ From andrew at soto.kasei.com Fri Apr 5 04:49:39 2002 From: andrew at soto.kasei.com (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Monday In-Reply-To: <20020405105128.A20643@gandalf.swmcc.com> References: <20020405104445.A7836@blackstar.co.uk> <20020405105128.A20643@gandalf.swmcc.com> Message-ID: <20020405104939.GB28120@rivendale.net> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 10:51:28AM +0100, Stephen McCullough wrote: > Hi, > > > Right. We're supposed to be meeting on Monday, so how about getting > > together in a pub somewhere for a quiet drink so that we can actually > > remember what each other looks like. A social meeting I believe it > > would be called! > > Cool. Which pub then and can we at least get an overview of your > Mail::Audit talk? I installed Mail::Audit in my home directory on soto yesterday. It only took me seven or eight hours. SEVEN OR EIGHT HOURS!!!!!! Trying to figureout the "right" settings in CPAN.pm and the shell to get it all to work without root privliges was a right pain in the arse! After Steve (notice that's after Steve not in leiu of Steve, or if Steve can't be arsed) has given his talk I may do a short rant about how pish this is and "oh the pain" they indignity of it all. Shame, ignamony etc. andrew -- Taurus: (April. 20--May 20) Due to an odd arrangement of the constellations, you will be born the oldest son of Thomas Fludd, Treasurer of War to Queen Elizabeth, later this week. (c) Copyright 2002 by Onion, Inc. All rights reserved. From bazza at bazza.com Fri Apr 5 05:53:00 2002 From: bazza at bazza.com (barry) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: [BLUG] Re: Monday In-Reply-To: <20020405115151.GA25613@bazza.com> References: <20020405104445.A7836@blackstar.co.uk> <20020405105128.A20643@gandalf.swmcc.com> <20020405104859.GA19034@bazza.com> <20020405124907.A20380@caspian.inhouseinternet.net> <20020405115151.GA25613@bazza.com> Message-ID: <20020405115300.GB25613@bazza.com> Um ... looking at this, it was meant to go to another list wasn't it, Steve, why are you sending stuff to weird places? On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:51:51PM +0100, barry mumbled: > On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:49:07PM +0100, Steve Foy mumbled: > > > it'd be about time for that, and he can even pour over my install, see if he > > > can see if it's Mail::Audit's fault that I can't make it bounce messages, but > > > it'll save and discard them with nae bo'her > > Sounds like me, I haven't tried bounce, but I can't 'reject' messages. > > reject is the one that's meant to bounce the stuff back to them (iirc) > > -- > -Barry Hughes > Diplomacy - the art of letting someone have your way > http://bazza.com/ > > -- -Barry Hughes I like work, it's fascinating, I can sit and look at it for hours on end http://bazza.com/ From steve-belfastpm at deeden.co.uk Fri Apr 5 06:57:38 2002 From: steve-belfastpm at deeden.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Monday In-Reply-To: <20020405104445.A7836@blackstar.co.uk> References: <20020405104445.A7836@blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020405125737.GA27433@deeden.co.uk> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 10:44:45AM +0100, Steve Rushe wrote: > Right. We're supposed to be meeting on Monday, so how about getting > together in a pub somewhere for a quiet drink so that we can actually > remember what each other looks like. A social meeting I believe it > would be called! Morrisons has been suggested. Anyone have any objections? If not, we can meet there on Monday. Steve --- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk Eeek, out of cheese error. From steve-blug at narnian.org Fri Apr 5 07:01:25 2002 From: steve-blug at narnian.org (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: [BLUG] Re: Monday In-Reply-To: <20020405115300.GB25613@bazza.com>; from bazza@bazza.com on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:53:00PM +0100 References: <20020405104445.A7836@blackstar.co.uk> <20020405105128.A20643@gandalf.swmcc.com> <20020405104859.GA19034@bazza.com> <20020405124907.A20380@caspian.inhouseinternet.net> <20020405115151.GA25613@bazza.com> <20020405115300.GB25613@bazza.com> Message-ID: <20020405140125.A20547@caspian.inhouseinternet.net> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:53:00PM +0100, barry wrote: > > Um ... looking at this, it was meant to go to another list wasn't it, Steve, > why are you sending stuff to weird places? Ah... Oops. I hit 'r' and it set tot 'to:' line to you (Barry) and I forgot that it was on the PM list and sent it to blug. Apologies. > On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:51:51PM +0100, barry mumbled: > > On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:49:07PM +0100, Steve Foy mumbled: > > > > it'd be about time for that, and he can even pour over my install, see if he > > > > can see if it's Mail::Audit's fault that I can't make it bounce messages, but > > > > it'll save and discard them with nae bo'her > > > Sounds like me, I haven't tried bounce, but I can't 'reject' messages. > > > > reject is the one that's meant to bounce the stuff back to them (iirc) > > > > -- > > -Barry Hughes > > Diplomacy - the art of letting someone have your way > > http://bazza.com/ > > > > > > -- > -Barry Hughes > I like work, it's fascinating, I can sit and look at it for hours on end > http://bazza.com/ -- Steve Foy steve@narnian.org From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Fri Apr 5 07:04:37 2002 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Monday In-Reply-To: <20020405125737.GA27433@deeden.co.uk>; from Steve Rushe on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 07:57:38AM -0500 References: <20020405104445.A7836@blackstar.co.uk> <20020405125737.GA27433@deeden.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020405140437.K28967@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 07:57:38AM -0500, Steve Rushe wrote: > On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 10:44:45AM +0100, Steve Rushe wrote: > > Right. We're supposed to be meeting on Monday, so how about getting > > together in a pub somewhere for a quiet drink so that we can actually > > remember what each other looks like. A social meeting I believe it > > would be called! > > Morrisons has been suggested. Anyone have any objections? If not, > we can meet there on Monday. Sounds alright to me, unless anyone has a better suggestion/objection. And Steve, why did you cc yourself on this mail? Only pondering..... m. -- Sharon: I was like, totally shocked when I read swm's postings on the list. I thought he was a quiet boy. Everyone else: *racuous laughter* From Peter.McEvoy at barcouncil-ni.org.uk Fri Apr 5 07:26:07 2002 From: Peter.McEvoy at barcouncil-ni.org.uk (Peter McEvoy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Monday Message-ID: Steve said: > > Right. We're supposed to be meeting on Monday, so how about getting > > together in a pub somewhere for a quiet drink so that we > can actually > > remember what each other looks like. A social meeting I believe it > > would be called! > > Morrisons has been suggested. Anyone have any objections? If not, > we can meet there on Monday. Morrisons is all good, i'd be up for going to that. Course, the welly boot does have nice, big comfy sofas and people to bring the drinks to the table...... 8^) Pete From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org Fri Apr 5 08:06:37 2002 From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Monday In-Reply-To: <20020405125737.GA27433@deeden.co.uk> References: <20020405104445.A7836@blackstar.co.uk> <20020405125737.GA27433@deeden.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020405150637.F24480@futureless.org> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 07:57:38AM -0500, Steve Rushe wrote: > Morrisons has been suggested. Anyone have any objections? If not, > we can meet there on Monday. I'll be there. If there's a change of plan, would someone phone me, please? =) I'm still sans phoneline (Hi Wesley!) -- Russell Matbouli | russell@futureless.org | Pick the best of two strategies PGP KeyID: 0x3CA84CF4 | -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/archives/belfast-pm/attachments/20020405/3f29aa68/attachment.bin From karen at kasei.com Fri Apr 5 08:13:55 2002 From: karen at kasei.com (Karen Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Monday In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020405141355.GA32396@soto.kasei.com> On Fri Apr 5 14:26:07 2002, Peter McEvoy wrote: > Steve said: > > > Right. We're supposed to be meeting on Monday, so how about getting > > > together in a pub somewhere for a quiet drink so that we > > can actually > > > remember what each other looks like. A social meeting I believe it > > > would be called! > > > > Morrisons has been suggested. Anyone have any objections? If not, > > we can meet there on Monday. > > Morrisons is all good, i'd be up for going to that. > Course, the welly boot does have nice, big comfy sofas and people to bring > the drinks to the table...... 8^) I'd be up for going to Roasts on the Lisburn Road? As they have lots of comfy sofas and milkshakes :) -- Karen From steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk Fri Apr 5 08:16:12 2002 From: steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Monday In-Reply-To: <20020405150637.F24480@futureless.org>; from russell-belfast-pm@futureless.org on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 03:06:37PM +0100 References: <20020405104445.A7836@blackstar.co.uk> <20020405125737.GA27433@deeden.co.uk> <20020405150637.F24480@futureless.org> Message-ID: <20020405151612.A28708@blackstar.co.uk> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 03:06:37PM +0100, Russell Matbouli wrote: > On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 07:57:38AM -0500, Steve Rushe wrote: > > Morrisons has been suggested. Anyone have any objections? If not, > > we can meet there on Monday. > > I'll be there. If there's a change of plan, would someone phone me, > please? =) I'm still sans phoneline (Hi Wesley!) Am I the only person puzzled by how we phone you if you have no phone line? Nice to know you can make it. Steve -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk I've given you so much rope you should have been hanging for days. From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org Fri Apr 5 08:17:37 2002 From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Monday In-Reply-To: <20020405151612.A28708@blackstar.co.uk> References: <20020405104445.A7836@blackstar.co.uk> <20020405125737.GA27433@deeden.co.uk> <20020405150637.F24480@futureless.org> <20020405151612.A28708@blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020405151737.A25781@futureless.org> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 03:16:12PM +0100, Steve Rushe wrote: > Am I the only person puzzled by how we phone you if you have no phone > line? Nice to know you can make it. Umm. Hey, look at that nice sig. (PS: the answer has something to do with mobile phones) -- Russell Matbouli | There is only one difference between a madman and me. russell@futureless.org | I am not mad. 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Anyone have any objections? If not, > > > we can meet there on Monday. > > > > I'll be there. If there's a change of plan, would someone phone me, > > please? =) I'm still sans phoneline (Hi Wesley!) > > Am I the only person puzzled by how we phone you if you have no phone > line? Nice to know you can make it. luddite. I will call him. m. -- I didn't have to use my AK Today was A Good Day From bazza at bazza.com Fri Apr 5 08:27:00 2002 From: bazza at bazza.com (barry) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: erp Message-ID: <20020405142700.GA30681@bazza.com> I think I may have just bounced mail from the wrong list to here ... lovely, I really think we need proper reply-tos on this thing :P -- -Barry Hughes "We all know Linux is great...it does infinite loops in 5 seconds." (Linus Torvalds on the superiority of Linux on the Amterdam Linux Symposium) http://bazza.com/ From bazza at bazza.com Fri Apr 5 08:27:58 2002 From: bazza at bazza.com (barry) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: [bazza@bazza.com: Re: Monday] Message-ID: <20020405142758.GB30681@bazza.com> hopefully this is the right one -- -Barry Hughes All general statements are false. http://bazza.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: barry Subject: Re: Monday Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 15:25:53 +0100 Size: 1418 Url: http://mail.pm.org/archives/belfast-pm/attachments/20020405/539e865f/attachment.eml From andrew at soto.kasei.com Fri Apr 5 08:41:42 2002 From: andrew at soto.kasei.com (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Monday In-Reply-To: <20020405150637.F24480@futureless.org> References: <20020405104445.A7836@blackstar.co.uk> <20020405125737.GA27433@deeden.co.uk> <20020405150637.F24480@futureless.org> Message-ID: <20020405144142.GC32282@rivendale.net> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 03:06:37PM +0100, Russell Matbouli wrote: > On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 07:57:38AM -0500, Steve Rushe wrote: > > Morrisons has been suggested. Anyone have any objections? If not, > > we can meet there on Monday. > > I'll be there. If there's a change of plan, would someone phone me, > please? =) I'm still sans phoneline (Hi Wesley!) Hmm ... I see an bit of a contradiction here. andrew -- Leo: (July 23 - Aug. 22) Remember, it's perfectly normal for your body to go through some changes while you are in the phase known as 'post - mortem deliquescence.' (c) Copyright 2002 by Onion, Inc. All rights reserved. From paul.dundas at btinternet.com Fri Apr 5 08:55:47 2002 From: paul.dundas at btinternet.com (Paul Dundas) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Free books References: <20020404002107.GA796@gandalf> Message-ID: <3CADBAF3.6090204@btinternet.com> It's not the usual "US residents only" is it? I've yet to find a useful competition on a non-UK site :-( Paul Andrew Wilson wrote: >Hi > >Just in case anyones missed it. > >Active state have an online survey (you can find a link to it on >http://use.perl.org). Anyone who fills it in has a chance to win $1000 >worth or O'Reilly books of their (the winners) choice. > >go fill in the survey already. > >andrew > From andrew at soto.kasei.com Fri Apr 5 08:48:43 2002 From: andrew at soto.kasei.com (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Monday In-Reply-To: <20020405141355.GA32396@soto.kasei.com> References: <20020405141355.GA32396@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20020405144843.GE32282@rivendale.net> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 03:13:55PM +0100, Karen Pauley wrote: > I'd be up for going to Roasts on the Lisburn Road? As they have lots of > comfy sofas and milkshakes :) I don't mind pubs or coffee shops. I'd certainly be up for going to roasts. could I suggest we start in roasts and head on to a pub later. Tht way anyone who doesn't want to go to a pub could just come along to the first bit. andrew -- Aquarius: (Jan. 20--Feb. 18) Your tragic visit to the U.S. Mint is a windfall for coin collectors, who will soon pay up to ,000 for pennies stamped with tiny pieces of you. (c) Copyright 2002 by Onion, Inc. All rights reserved. From perl.belfast at kasei.com Fri Apr 5 08:51:52 2002 From: perl.belfast at kasei.com (Marty) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Monday In-Reply-To: <20020405141355.GA32396@soto.kasei.com> References: <20020405141355.GA32396@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20020405145152.GA764@soto.kasei.com> On Fri Apr 5 15:13:55 2002, Karen Pauley wrote: > I'd be up for going to Roasts on the Lisburn Road? As they have lots of > comfy sofas and milkshakes :) Since we are programmers, I should point out that Roast is a coffee shop and so sells coffee. In particular, the "Depth Charge" is a good bet for all-night coding. -- Marty -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 220 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/archives/belfast-pm/attachments/20020405/2ef18c6f/attachment.bin From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Fri Apr 5 09:08:43 2002 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Monday In-Reply-To: <20020405145152.GA764@soto.kasei.com>; from Marty on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 03:51:52PM +0100 References: <20020405141355.GA32396@soto.kasei.com> <20020405145152.GA764@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20020405160843.A7119@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 03:51:52PM +0100, Marty wrote: > On Fri Apr 5 15:13:55 2002, Karen Pauley wrote: > > I'd be up for going to Roasts on the Lisburn Road? As they have lots of > > comfy sofas and milkshakes :) > > Since we are programmers, I should point out that Roast is a coffee shop > and so sells coffee. In particular, the "Depth Charge" is a good bet > for all-night coding. Roast then Morrison. That sounds like a plan. m. -- No, I am not laughing with you From andrew at soto.kasei.com Fri Apr 5 09:04:22 2002 From: andrew at soto.kasei.com (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Free books In-Reply-To: <3CADBAF3.6090204@btinternet.com> References: <20020404002107.GA796@gandalf> <3CADBAF3.6090204@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <20020405150422.GI32282@rivendale.net> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 03:55:47PM +0100, Paul Dundas wrote: > It's not the usual "US residents only" is it? > I've yet to find a useful competition on a non-UK site :-( As far as I'm aware it's not US residents only. There is nothing on the site to indicate that it is. andrew -- Leo: (July 23--Aug. 22) You will be publicly ridiculed when the ghost of Jose Canseco denies your story. (c) Copyright 2002 by Onion, Inc. All rights reserved. From scott at kungfuftr.com Fri Apr 5 12:39:41 2002 From: scott at kungfuftr.com (Scott McWhirter) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Mail::Audit filter Message-ID: <20020405183941.GA19870@aslan.unite.net> hey all, was just having a think... any ideas on how to cut out the repition in my Mail::Audit filter?? http://kungfuftr.com/code/mail-filter ta! this should be intresting -- -Scott McWhirter- | -kungfuftr- From liyang at nerv.cx Fri Apr 5 18:51:22 2002 From: liyang at nerv.cx (Liyang Hu) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Mail::Audit filter In-Reply-To: <20020405183941.GA19870@aslan.unite.net> References: <20020405183941.GA19870@aslan.unite.net> Message-ID: <20020406005122.GD23948@cam.ac.uk> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 07:39:41PM +0100, Scott McWhirter wrote: > was just having a think... any ideas on how to cut out the > repition in my Mail::Audit filter?? Here's my mail filter; it's massively over-engineered, but it works, even though the ~/.aliases generation code is a little dodgy. (Personal details have been massively trimmed, but I'm sure you can figure it out.) http://nerv.cx/msort_sanitised For known spam, I save a copy of the message to a special folder, as well as bounce a copy back. You can also use dated email address that will bounce after a set period. (You can tell I don't like people using nick names on mailing lists. ^_-) Suggestions for improvements are more than welcome ... (I know, tag_subject can be generalised to a generic header rewriting function, just haven't had the time, or the need to implement it so far.) /Liyang -- .--{ Liyang HU }--{ http://nerv.cx/ }--{ Caius@Cam }--{ ICQ: 39391385 }--. | I decry the current tendency to seek patents on algorithms. There are | | better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making | | use of one's contributions to computer science. -- Don Knuth, TAoCP v3 | From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org Sat Apr 6 04:19:56 2002 From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:36 2004 Subject: Monday In-Reply-To: <20020405152617.C5182@tux.blackstar.co.uk> References: <20020405104445.A7836@blackstar.co.uk> <20020405125737.GA27433@deeden.co.uk> <20020405150637.F24480@futureless.org> <20020405151612.A28708@blackstar.co.uk> <20020405152617.C5182@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020406111956.A29008@futureless.org> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 03:26:17PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > luddite. I will call him. If it is at Roasts, you don't need to call me. I have to do tech support today (thought I'd got out of it too, drat) so I've got this intermethingy here on this box thing and can read my emither... Roasts is the one further out of the city centre than Tescos, yes? -- Russell Matbouli | russell@futureless.org | Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur PGP KeyID: 0x3CA84CF4 | -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/archives/belfast-pm/attachments/20020406/2c2af2b9/attachment.bin From eduard_smith at systems-mail.org Sat Apr 6 16:11:03 2002 From: eduard_smith at systems-mail.org (eduard_smith@systems-mail.org) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Hello Message-ID: <150913aa$ff7$2a1e> Find out what your children, lovers, employees are doing on the Internet Make sure they are being safe on the Internet with Privacy-Control Software. Privacy-Control will hide on your computer and secretly record all instant messages, chat, email, web sites and more! Once you install it, it becomes completely invisible. 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Click Here to order http://www.privacy-control.com/order.html Or visit us at http://www.privacy-control.com To be opt out please email optout@systems-mail.org From scott at kungfuftr.com Sun Apr 7 14:14:18 2002 From: scott at kungfuftr.com (Scott McWhirter) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: mod_perl CGI handlers Message-ID: <20020407191418.GB6229@aslan.unite.net> hey all, i was reading about some sort of module that handled form data etc. for mod_perl. I swore it was called Apache::CGI but apparently not... any ideas?? -- -Scott McWhirter- ! -kungfuftr- From paul.dundas at btinternet.com Sun Apr 7 16:31:51 2002 From: paul.dundas at btinternet.com (Paul Dundas) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Monday References: <20020405104445.A7836@blackstar.co.uk> <20020405125737.GA27433@deeden.co.uk> <20020405150637.F24480@futureless.org> <20020405151612.A28708@blackstar.co.uk> <20020405152617.C5182@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020406111956.A29008@futureless.org> Message-ID: <3CB0BAC7.7080805@btinternet.com> Having lurked on the list for a while, it's probably time to see what people are like in person. Russell Matbouli wrote: >On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 03:26:17PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > >>luddite. I will call him. >> > >If it is at Roasts, you don't need to call me. I have to do tech support >today (thought I'd got out of it too, drat) so I've got this >intermethingy here on this box thing and can read my emither... > >Roasts is the one further out of the city centre than Tescos, yes? > So what happens at a perlmongery in Roasts, and how does one recognise the perlmongers (or if it all turns out too horrible, avoid them) when you get there? Should I look for a table groaning under the load of caffeine, and chairs groaning under the weight of the assembled intellects? Or what? Presumably it's at (or about) 7pm? -- Paul D ( paul.dundas@btinternet.com) "wot, no coffee?" From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Sun Apr 7 16:32:14 2002 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Monday In-Reply-To: <3CB0BAC7.7080805@btinternet.com>; from Paul Dundas on Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:31:51PM +0100 References: <20020405104445.A7836@blackstar.co.uk> <20020405125737.GA27433@deeden.co.uk> <20020405150637.F24480@futureless.org> <20020405151612.A28708@blackstar.co.uk> <20020405152617.C5182@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020406111956.A29008@futureless.org> <3CB0BAC7.7080805@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <20020407223214.A17183@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:31:51PM +0100, Paul Dundas wrote: > Having lurked on the list for a while, it's probably time to see what > people are like in person. hurrah! fresh um, meat! To! Infect! With! Madness!! m. > -- Matthew: Daddy, here are two guns.... Me: uh-huh... Matthew: ...for that man in the ballet dress. 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Tajdin 26 Séville Montreal, Qc (Canada) H9B 2S5 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HERE'S HOW THIS AMAZING PLAN WILL MAKE YOU $MONEY$ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Let's say you decide to start small just to see how well it works. Assume your goal is to get 10 people to participate on your first level. (Placing a lot of FREE ads on the internet will EASILY get a larger response.) Also assume that everyone else in YOUR ORGANIZATION gets ONLY 10 downline members. Follow this example to achieve the STAGGERING results below. 1st level--your 10 members with $5.....................$50 2nd level--10 members from those 10 ($5 x 100)........$500 3rd level--10 members from those 100 ($5 x 1,000)...$5,000 4th level--10 members from those 1,000 ($5x10,000).$50,000 THIS TOTALS ------> $55,550 Remember, this assumes that the people who participate only recruit 10 people each. 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Be prompt, professional, and follow the directions accurately. * Send for the four reports IMMEDIATELY so you will have them when the orders start coming in because: When you receive a $5 order, you MUST send out the requested product (report) to comply with the U.S. Postal & Lottery Laws, Title 18, Sections 1302 and 1341 or Title 18, Section 3005 in the U.S. Code, also Code of Federal Regs. vol. 16, Sections 255 and 436, which state that "a product or service must be exchanged for money received." * ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON THE ORDERS YOU RECEIVE. * Be patient and persistent with this program. If you follow the instructions exactly, the results WILL undoubtedly be SUCCESSFUL! * ABOVE ALL, HAVE FAITH IN YOURSELF AND KNOW YOU WILL SUCCEED! *******YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINE******* Follow these guidelines to help assure your success: If you don't receive 10 to 20 orders for REPORT #1 within two weeks, continue advertising until you do. Then, a couple of weeks later you should receive at least 100 orders for REPORT #2. If you don't, continue advertising until you do. Once you have received 100 or more orders for REPORT #2, YOU CAN RELAX, because the system is already working for you, and the cash can continue to roll in! THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: Every time your name is moved down on the list, you are placed in front of a DIFFERENT report. You can KEEP TRACK of your PROGRESS by watching which report people are ordering from you. If you want to generate more income, send another batch of e-mails and start the whole process again! There is no limit to the income you will generate from this business! PLEASE NOTE: If you need help with starting a business, registering a business name, learning how income tax is handled, etc., contact your local office of the Small Business Administration (a Federal agency) 1-(800)827-5722 for free help and answers to questions. Also, the Internal Revenue Service offers free help via telephone and free seminars about business tax requirements. Your earnings and results are highly dependant on your activities and advertising. This letter constitutes no guarantees stated nor implied. In the event that it is determined that this letter constitutes a guarantee of any kind, that guarantee is now void. Any testimonials or amounts of earnings listed in this letter may be factual or fictitious. If you have any question of the legality of this letter contact the Office of Associate Director for Marketing Practices Federal Trade Commission Bureau of Consumer Protection in Washington DC. *******T E S T I M O N I A L S******* This program does work, but you must follow it EXACTLY! Especially the rule of not trying to place your name in a different position, it won't work and you'll lose a lot of potential income. I'm living proof that it works. It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy money, with little cost to you. If you do choose to participate, follow the program exactly, and you'll be on your way to financial security. Sean McLaughlin, Jackson, MS My name is Frank. My wife, Doris, and I live in Bel-Air, MD. I am a cost accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and I make pretty good money. When I received the program I grumbled to Doris about receiving "junk mail." I made fun of the whole thing, spouting my knowledge of the population and percentages involved. I "knew" it wouldn't work. Doris totally ignored my supposed intelligence and jumped in with both feet. I made merciless fun of her, and was ready to lay the old "I told you so" on her when the thing didn't work... well, the laugh was on me! Within two weeks she had received over 50 responses. Within 45 days she had received over $147,200 in $5 bills! I was shocked! I was sure that I had it all figured and that it wouldn't work. I AM a believer now. I have joined Doris in her "hobby." I did have seven more years until retirement, but I think of the "rat race" and it's not for me. We owe it all to MLM. Frank T., Bel-Air, MD I just want to pass along my best wishes and encouragement to you. Any doubts you have will vanish when your first orders come in. I even checked with the U.S. Post Office to verify that the plan was legal. It definitely is! IT WORKS! Paul Johnson, Raleigh, NC The main reason for this letter is to convince you that this system is honest, lawful, extremely profitable, and is a way to get a large amount of money in a short time. I was approached several times before I checked this out. I joined just to see what one could expect in return for the minimal effort and money required. To my astonishment, I received $36,470.00 in the first 14 weeks, with money still coming in. Phillip A. Brown, Esq. Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up my mind to participate in this plan. But conservative that I am, I decided that the initial investment was so little that there was just no way that I wouldn't get enough orders to at least get my money back. Boy, was I surprised when I found my medium-size post office box crammed with orders! For a while, it got so overloaded that I had to start picking up my mail at the window. I'll make more money this year than any 10 years of my life before. The nice thing about this plan is that it doesn't matter where in the U.S. people live. There simply isn't a better investment with a faster return. Mary Rockland, Lansing, MI I had received this program before. I deleted it, but later I wondered if I shouldn't have given it a try. Of course, I had no idea who to contact to get another copy, so I had to wait until I was e-mailed another program...11 months passed then it came...I didn't delete this one!...I made more than $41,000 on the first try!! D. Wilburn, Muncie, IN This is my third time to participate in this plan. We have quit our jobs, and will soon buy a home on the beach and live off the interest on our money. The only way on earth that this plan will work for you is if you do it. For your sake, and for your family's sake don't pass up this golden opportunity. Good luck and happy spending! Charles Fairchild, Spokane, WA ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON YOUR ROAD TO FINANCIAL FREEDOM! NOW IS THE TIME ! DECISIVE ACTION YIELDS POWERFUL RESULTS ! NEVER SEND SPAM. IT IS BAD. From steve-belfastpm at deeden.co.uk Mon Apr 8 04:03:11 2002 From: steve-belfastpm at deeden.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Mail::Audit filter In-Reply-To: <20020405183941.GA19870@aslan.unite.net> References: <20020405183941.GA19870@aslan.unite.net> Message-ID: <20020408090311.GA24924@deeden.co.uk> On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 07:39:41PM +0100, Scott McWhirter wrote: > hey all, > > was just having a think... any ideas on how to cut out the repition in > my Mail::Audit filter?? > > http://kungfuftr.com/code/mail-filter Well for a quick change why not create a hash like my %matches = ( '@geekalert.org' => 'geekalert.org', 'scott\@narnian.org' => 'narnian.org', # etc... ); Then just check the keys and accept to the maildir as appropriate. I'd guess that Mail::ListDetector could help you too. Out of interest, why not use SpamAssassin's builtin whitelist facility? Steve -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk I've given you so much rope you should have been hanging for days. From steve-belfastpm at deeden.co.uk Mon Apr 8 05:14:47 2002 From: steve-belfastpm at deeden.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: What time tonight? Message-ID: <20020408101447.GA28894@deeden.co.uk> So we're meeting in Roasts, but at what time exactly? Steve -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk Space is cold, home is colder when you come home at night and there's nobody here. From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Mon Apr 8 05:16:34 2002 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: What time tonight? In-Reply-To: <20020408101447.GA28894@deeden.co.uk>; from Steve Rushe on Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 06:14:47AM -0400 References: <20020408101447.GA28894@deeden.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020408111634.G21271@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 06:14:47AM -0400, Steve Rushe wrote: > So we're meeting in Roasts, but at what time exactly? You should have just told us, oh glorious leader. Oh, and it is at 7pm, in case you forgot. 7pm, folks. m. -- Are you still here? From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Mon Apr 8 08:01:03 2002 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Call to lurkers. Message-ID: <20020408140103.C22670@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Hey *everyone* on the list. Tonight's meeting, in Roast on the Lisburn Road at 7pm, is a Social Meeting. Which means if you haven't attended before, this is the ideal time. There will be no pressure to prove you know any perl, not that we pressure people into that sort of thing. That is just used to show up my ignorance, no one elses. So if you were hesitating before, come on this evening! The more the merrier! You know it makes sense. m. -- What about me? Well, I'll find someone Who is not going cheap in the sales. A nice little housewife Who'll give me a steady life And won't keep going off the rails From karen at martian.org Mon Apr 8 09:02:14 2002 From: karen at martian.org (Karen Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: [JOB AD] Kasei: Internet Application Developer Message-ID: <20020408140214.GA19196@soto.kasei.com> Neither list seems to have a policy on posting job ads, so: Kasei would like to hire an Internet Application Developer to work on a variety of projects. Experience in internet technologies is required, along with experience of Perl programming and databases (preferably MySQL). Exposure to database abstraction layers (preferably Class::DBI), templating systems (preferably Template Toolkit) and XP principles (particularly pair programming and test-first development) a plus. If this should be you, then send a CV to jobs@kasei.com Karen From steve-belfastpm at deeden.co.uk Mon Apr 8 10:20:11 2002 From: steve-belfastpm at deeden.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Food Message-ID: <20020408152008.GA52161@deeden.co.uk> ello Does anyone know if Roast do food, and if so is it decent? If either of those questions results in a negative answer, does anywhere near Roast do decent food. It's just dawned on me that I should really eat something sometime this evening. thanks Steve -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk Space is cold, home is colder when you come home at night and there's nobody here. From tony at kasei.com Mon Apr 8 10:21:05 2002 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: [JOB AD] Kasei: Internet Application Developer In-Reply-To: <20020408140214.GA19196@soto.kasei.com> References: <20020408140214.GA19196@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20020408152105.GA21185@soto.kasei.com> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 03:02:14PM +0100, Karen Pauley wrote: > If this should be you, then send a CV to jobs@kasei.com In response to the people who have asked about closing dates etc, we'd just like an "expression of interest" before this Friday. Individual applicants can then be contacted in turn for CVs / interviews etc. Tony From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Mon Apr 8 10:27:08 2002 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Food In-Reply-To: <20020408152008.GA52161@deeden.co.uk>; from Steve Rushe on Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:20:11AM -0400 References: <20020408152008.GA52161@deeden.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020408162708.V22670@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:20:11AM -0400, Steve Rushe wrote: > ello > > Does anyone know if Roast do food, and if so is it decent? If either of > those questions results in a negative answer, does anywhere near Roast > do decent food. It's just dawned on me that I should really eat something > sometime this evening. I second this. And, if youse want to meet at (say) 6.30ish to eat in the as-yet-unspecified eating hostelry, would that do? And Steve, dontcha live down that way? Shouldn't you know the answer to this? m. -- I have learned there are troubles of more than one kind Some come from ahead and some come from behind But I've bought a big bat I'm all ready, you see Now my troubles are going to have troubles with ME! From Peter.McEvoy at barcouncil-ni.org.uk Mon Apr 8 10:36:28 2002 From: Peter.McEvoy at barcouncil-ni.org.uk (Peter McEvoy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: FW: Food Message-ID: > Does anyone know if Roast do food, and if so is it decent? If > either of > those questions results in a negative answer, does anywhere > near Roast > do decent food. It's just dawned on me that I should really > eat something > sometime this evening. wrap works, kfc, wendy's and a couple of chippies are all in the vacinity of roast. Dunno if it does food itself. Pete From steve-belfastpm at deeden.co.uk Mon Apr 8 10:43:58 2002 From: steve-belfastpm at deeden.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Food In-Reply-To: <20020408162708.V22670@tux.blackstar.co.uk> References: <20020408152008.GA52161@deeden.co.uk> <20020408162708.V22670@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020408154358.GA53678@deeden.co.uk> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 04:27:08PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > > I second this. And, if youse want to meet at (say) 6.30ish to eat in the > as-yet-unspecified eating hostelry, would that do? > > And Steve, dontcha live down that way? Shouldn't you know the answer to > this? Well wrapworks, wendys and kfc have been mentioned to me. Wendys sounds good. I like Wendys. Of course I can't remember where exactly Roast is, so this may be way out. As for living down that way. I live nearer City Hospital than any of these places, and I have more that enough fine takeaways near me without bothering further down the Lisburn Road. Anyway, I'm going a hunting for a map that shows where Roast is! Steve -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk Supermodel! Do you mean superficial? From karen at kasei.com Mon Apr 8 10:47:40 2002 From: karen at kasei.com (Karen Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Food In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20020408154740.GD19196@soto.kasei.com> On Mon Apr 8 16:36:28 2002, Peter McEvoy wrote: > > > Does anyone know if Roast do food, and if so is it decent? If > > either of > > those questions results in a negative answer, does anywhere > > near Roast > > do decent food. It's just dawned on me that I should really > > eat something > > sometime this evening. > > wrap works, kfc, wendy's and a couple of chippies are all in the vacinity of > roast. > Dunno if it does food itself. Roast sells sandwiches and paninis, cake and coffee - more a lunch and coffee place than a dinner place. Karen From andrew at soto.kasei.com Mon Apr 8 10:53:41 2002 From: andrew at soto.kasei.com (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Food In-Reply-To: <20020408154358.GA53678@deeden.co.uk> References: <20020408152008.GA52161@deeden.co.uk> <20020408162708.V22670@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020408154358.GA53678@deeden.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020408155341.GD21638@rivendale.net> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:43:58AM -0400, Steve Rushe wrote: > Well wrapworks, wendys and kfc have been mentioned to me. Wendys sounds good. > I like Wendys. Of course I can't remember where exactly Roast is, so this > may be way out. Can we go somewhere that does healthyish type food i.e. not greasyprolongeddeathbyheartdiseaseorprematureinsanitybyBSEinabun andrew -- Taurus: (April. 20--May 20) Due to an odd arrangement of the constellations, you will be born the oldest son of Thomas Fludd, Treasurer of War to Queen Elizabeth, later this week. (c) Copyright 2002 by Onion, Inc. All rights reserved. From steve-belfastpm at deeden.co.uk Mon Apr 8 10:58:15 2002 From: steve-belfastpm at deeden.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Food In-Reply-To: <20020408155341.GD21638@rivendale.net> References: <20020408152008.GA52161@deeden.co.uk> <20020408162708.V22670@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020408154358.GA53678@deeden.co.uk> <20020408155341.GD21638@rivendale.net> Message-ID: <20020408155814.GB53678@deeden.co.uk> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 04:53:41PM +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: > > Can we go somewhere that does healthyish type food i.e. not > greasyprolongeddeathbyheartdiseaseorprematureinsanitybyBSEinabun Feel free to suggest somewhere. I don't mind. Bear in mid we're meeting there in 90 minutes! Steve -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk I've given you so much rope you should have been hanging for days. From duggie-belfast-pm at blackstar.co.uk Mon Apr 8 10:58:45 2002 From: duggie-belfast-pm at blackstar.co.uk (duggie-belfast-pm@blackstar.co.uk) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Food In-Reply-To: <20020408162708.V22670@tux.blackstar.co.uk>; from mwk@stray-toaster.co.uk on Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 04:27:08PM +0100 References: <20020408152008.GA52161@deeden.co.uk> <20020408162708.V22670@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020408165845.D8809@blackstar.co.uk> On (08/04/02 16:27), Stray Toaster wrote: > On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:20:11AM -0400, Steve Rushe wrote: > > ello > > > > Does anyone know if Roast do food, and if so is it decent? If either of > > those questions results in a negative answer, does anywhere near Roast > > do decent food. It's just dawned on me that I should really eat something > > sometime this evening. > > I second this. And, if youse want to meet at (say) 6.30ish to eat in the > as-yet-unspecified eating hostelry, would that do? > > And Steve, dontcha live down that way? Shouldn't you know the answer to > this? > > m. Steve does live out that direction, however my guess is that Steve prefers to eat with the nurses than try some of those new-fangled, trendy places on the Lisburn Road. Thanks Duggie PS For those of you who didn't know, Steve lives with nurses. Or nursii if you please. Well, very close to them anyway... -- "I love my brick." - Father Jack Hackett From tony at kasei.com Mon Apr 8 11:01:08 2002 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Food In-Reply-To: <20020408154358.GA53678@deeden.co.uk> References: <20020408152008.GA52161@deeden.co.uk> <20020408162708.V22670@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020408154358.GA53678@deeden.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020408160108.GA22717@soto.kasei.com> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:43:58AM -0400, Steve Rushe wrote: > Anyway, I'm going a hunting for a map that shows where Roast is! If you're heading out of town, Roast is just past Tescos. Opposite the Peace People. Beside some executive recuritment place whose name I've temporarily forgotten. On the block before KFC (ex Haagen Dazs). If you're heading into town reverse some of that. Although not the "opposite" or "beside" bits. If you're heading in a manner perpendicular to this, then you can work it out yourself... Tony From tony at kasei.com Mon Apr 8 11:02:45 2002 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Food In-Reply-To: <20020408155341.GD21638@rivendale.net> References: <20020408152008.GA52161@deeden.co.uk> <20020408162708.V22670@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020408154358.GA53678@deeden.co.uk> <20020408155341.GD21638@rivendale.net> Message-ID: <20020408160245.GB22717@soto.kasei.com> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 04:53:41PM +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: > greasyprolongeddeathbyheartdiseaseorprematureinsanitybyBSEinabun I parsed the end of this as "in lisburn". Make of that what you will. I'd suggest that Roast in itself will be fine for food. As long as they have some new banoff[ee|i] in... Although their cheesecake is good too. And there's always healthier options. Tony From andrew at soto.kasei.com Mon Apr 8 11:03:31 2002 From: andrew at soto.kasei.com (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Food In-Reply-To: <20020408155814.GB53678@deeden.co.uk> References: <20020408152008.GA52161@deeden.co.uk> <20020408162708.V22670@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020408154358.GA53678@deeden.co.uk> <20020408155341.GD21638@rivendale.net> <20020408155814.GB53678@deeden.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020408160331.GF21638@rivendale.net> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:58:15AM -0400, Steve Rushe wrote: > On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 04:53:41PM +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: > > Can we go somewhere that does healthyish type food i.e. not > > greasyprolongeddeathbyheartdiseaseorprematureinsanitybyBSEinabun > > Feel free to suggest somewhere. I don't mind. Bear in mid we're meeting > there in 90 minutes! Pizza express? I have a car and can run us up to roasts after we eat. andrew -- Taurus: (April. 20 - May 20) Confusion over the definition of the word 'elope' will soon bring you familiarity with Las Vegas' surprisingly comprehensive animal - cruelty laws. (c) Copyright 2002 by Onion, Inc. All rights reserved. From steve at narnian.org Mon Apr 8 11:05:12 2002 From: steve at narnian.org (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Food In-Reply-To: <20020408152008.GA52161@deeden.co.uk>; from steve-belfastpm@deeden.co.uk on Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:20:11AM -0400 References: <20020408152008.GA52161@deeden.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020408170512.A3300@caspian.inhouseinternet.net> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:20:11AM -0400, Steve Rushe wrote: > Does anyone know if Roast do food, and if so is it decent? They do some 'food', like scones and stuff + cakes, desserts, that kind of thing. -- Steve Foy steve@narnian.org From andrew at soto.kasei.com Mon Apr 8 11:07:11 2002 From: andrew at soto.kasei.com (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Food In-Reply-To: <20020408165845.D8809@blackstar.co.uk> References: <20020408152008.GA52161@deeden.co.uk> <20020408162708.V22670@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020408165845.D8809@blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020408160711.GG21638@rivendale.net> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 04:58:45PM +0100, duggie-belfast-pm@blackstar.co.uk wrote: > PS For those of you who didn't know, Steve lives with nurses. Or nursii if > you please. Well, very close to them anyway... Of course taht's lives with as in "in the same building" rather than in the "getting busy with" sense of the phrase. andrew -- Cancer: (June 22--July 22) Your shy and retiring temperament does not preclude your running down the street naked and on fire next Thursday. (c) Copyright 2002 by Onion, Inc. All rights reserved. From andrew at soto.kasei.com Mon Apr 8 11:12:58 2002 From: andrew at soto.kasei.com (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Food Message-ID: <20020408161258.GH21638@rivendale.net> Hi all I'm proposing Pizza express at 6.00 pm for something to eat. What say you all. Yea or neigh[0]. andrew [0] or nay for those of you who don't agree and don'#t want to do vaguely amusing animal noises[1] [1] moo. -- Taurus: (April. 20--May 20) Due to an odd arrangement of the constellations, you will be born the oldest son of Thomas Fludd, Treasurer of War to Queen Elizabeth, later this week. (c) Copyright 2002 by Onion, Inc. All rights reserved. From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Mon Apr 8 11:16:49 2002 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Food In-Reply-To: <20020408161258.GH21638@rivendale.net>; from Andrew Wilson on Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 05:12:58PM +0100 References: <20020408161258.GH21638@rivendale.net> Message-ID: <20020408171649.P22670@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 05:12:58PM +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: > Hi all > > I'm proposing Pizza express at 6.00 pm for something to eat. > > What say you all. > > Yea or neigh[0]. if this is yay, tell me v v v soon. As I have to walk a bit to get my car. And then where can I park down that way? m. -- Sharon: Do you type all those wee lines after your mail messages in everytime? Marc: Well, y'sae I have in my muttrc... Claire: Don't go there. Therein lies geekdom. From duggie-belfast-pm at blackstar.co.uk Mon Apr 8 11:22:40 2002 From: duggie-belfast-pm at blackstar.co.uk (Duggie) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Food In-Reply-To: <20020408155341.GD21638@rivendale.net>; from andrew@soto.kasei.com on Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 04:53:41PM +0100 References: <20020408152008.GA52161@deeden.co.uk> <20020408162708.V22670@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020408154358.GA53678@deeden.co.uk> <20020408155341.GD21638@rivendale.net> Message-ID: <20020408172240.A23347@blackstar.co.uk> On (08/04/02 16:53), Andrew Wilson wrote: > On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:43:58AM -0400, Steve Rushe wrote: > > Well wrapworks, wendys and kfc have been mentioned to me. Wendys sounds good. > > I like Wendys. Of course I can't remember where exactly Roast is, so this > > may be way out. > > Can we go somewhere that does healthyish type food i.e. not > greasyprolongeddeathbyheartdiseaseorprematureinsanitybyBSEinabun > > andrew Surprisingly, www.greasyprolongeddeathbyheartdiseaseorprematureinsanitybyBSEinabun.com is still available! Thanks Duggie -- "I love my brick." - Father Jack Hackett From sleepy_uk at hotmail.com Mon Apr 8 11:23:51 2002 From: sleepy_uk at hotmail.com (Scott McWhirter) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: roast... lifts?? Message-ID: hey all, i have no idea where roast is, would someone be able to give me a lift from around central station to it?? 07803041718 thanks! -- -Scott McWhirter- | -kungfuftr- PGP key id: 0x3C79CF1D _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From steve at narnian.org Mon Apr 8 11:23:55 2002 From: steve at narnian.org (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Food In-Reply-To: <20020408160331.GF21638@rivendale.net>; from andrew@soto.kasei.com on Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 05:03:31PM +0100 References: <20020408152008.GA52161@deeden.co.uk> <20020408162708.V22670@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020408154358.GA53678@deeden.co.uk> <20020408155341.GD21638@rivendale.net> <20020408155814.GB53678@deeden.co.uk> <20020408160331.GF21638@rivendale.net> Message-ID: <20020408172355.A3502@caspian.inhouseinternet.net> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 05:03:31PM +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: > > > Pizza express? I have a car and can run us up to roasts after we eat. Green's Pizza is lovely (for pizzas obviously) I'd advise it muchly. -- Steve Foy steve@narnian.org From andrew at soto.kasei.com Mon Apr 8 11:26:25 2002 From: andrew at soto.kasei.com (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Food In-Reply-To: <20020408171649.P22670@tux.blackstar.co.uk> References: <20020408161258.GH21638@rivendale.net> <20020408171649.P22670@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020408162625.GI21638@rivendale.net> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 05:16:49PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > if this is yay, tell me v v v soon. As I have to walk a bit to get my > car. And then where can I park down that way? Have you got my mobile no. If you haven't ask karen or marty for it. If we're going there you can come collect me and I'll open my the gate on the place I'm parked then we can go to PE. You can phone me when you're outside. What'ch think? andrew -- Taurus: (April. 20--May 20) Due to an odd arrangement of the constellations, you will be born the oldest son of Thomas Fludd, Treasurer of War to Queen Elizabeth, later this week. (c) Copyright 2002 by Onion, Inc. All rights reserved. From andrew at soto.kasei.com Mon Apr 8 11:28:23 2002 From: andrew at soto.kasei.com (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Food In-Reply-To: <20020408172240.A23347@blackstar.co.uk> References: <20020408152008.GA52161@deeden.co.uk> <20020408162708.V22670@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020408154358.GA53678@deeden.co.uk> <20020408155341.GD21638@rivendale.net> <20020408172240.A23347@blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020408162823.GJ21638@rivendale.net> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 05:22:40PM +0100, Duggie wrote: > Surprisingly, > www.greasyprolongeddeathbyheartdiseaseorprematureinsanitybyBSEinabun.com > is still available! Who would've thought it? quick snap it up before someone else does. It could be the anme of our new resturant ... andrew -- Taurus: (April. 20 - May 20) Confusion over the definition of the word 'elope' will soon bring you familiarity with Las Vegas' surprisingly comprehensive animal - cruelty laws. (c) Copyright 2002 by Onion, Inc. All rights reserved. From bazza at bazza.com Mon Apr 8 11:36:58 2002 From: bazza at bazza.com (barry) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Food In-Reply-To: <20020408162823.GJ21638@rivendale.net> References: <20020408152008.GA52161@deeden.co.uk> <20020408162708.V22670@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020408154358.GA53678@deeden.co.uk> <20020408155341.GD21638@rivendale.net> <20020408172240.A23347@blackstar.co.uk> <20020408162823.GJ21638@rivendale.net> Message-ID: <20020408163658.GA17975@bazza.com> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 05:28:23PM +0100, Andrew Wilson mumbled: > On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 05:22:40PM +0100, Duggie wrote: > > Surprisingly, > > www.greasyprolongeddeathbyheartdiseaseorprematureinsanitybyBSEinabun.com > > is still available! > Who would've thought it? quick snap it up before someone else does. > It could be the anme of our new resturant ... mmm, grease, I'm just going to get summat to eat post-Roast, pre-pub -- -Barry Hughes Never laugh at live dragons. -- Bilbo Baggins [J.R.R. Tolkien, "The Hobbit"] http://bazza.com/ From andrew at soto.kasei.com Mon Apr 8 11:53:25 2002 From: andrew at soto.kasei.com (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: food Message-ID: <20020408165325.GB24155@rivendale.net> Hi all Several of us are meeting in Pizza Express at 6.00 pm anyone who wants to join us will be most welcome. andrew -- Aquarius: (Jan. 20--Feb. 18) Your tragic visit to the U.S. Mint is a windfall for coin collectors, who will soon pay up to ,000 for pennies stamped with tiny pieces of you. (c) Copyright 2002 by Onion, Inc. All rights reserved. From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Mon Apr 8 16:43:02 2002 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: nice meet! Message-ID: <20020408224302.A27795@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Hey guys. A social meeting was a great idea! Of mine! hurrah! That was fun! Let us do it again. Next month! m. -- What does it profit a man to gain the whole world if he loses his soul? Matthew 16:26 From paul.dundas at btinternet.com Mon Apr 8 17:13:42 2002 From: paul.dundas at btinternet.com (Paul Dundas) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: nice meet! References: <20020408224302.A27795@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <3CB21616.8050206@btinternet.com> Stray Toaster wrote: >Hey guys. >A social meeting was a great idea! Of mine! >hurrah! >That was fun! >Let us do it again. Next month! > A social meeting with talks about lightning, I think she said? -- Paul D ( paul.dundas@btinternet.com) "There is no limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit." - Robert Woodruff? From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Tue Apr 9 04:24:29 2002 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Next meet! was Re: nice meet! In-Reply-To: <3CB21616.8050206@btinternet.com>; from Paul Dundas on Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:13:42PM +0100 References: <20020408224302.A27795@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <3CB21616.8050206@btinternet.com> Message-ID: <20020409102429.C31639@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 11:13:42PM +0100, Paul Dundas wrote: > Stray Toaster wrote: > > >Hey guys. > >A social meeting was a great idea! Of mine! > >hurrah! > >That was fun! > >Let us do it again. Next month! > > > > A social meeting with talks about lightning, I think she said? True, true. Marty is talking about lightning. Steve is talking about Mail::Audit/Spam::Assassin, and yet-to-be-named people will be giving lightning talks on things other than lightning. And preferrably perl-related. So, people, we need candidates for the lightning talks. They will be limited to 5 minutes, altho maybe 7, as is the new recommendation for YAPC::Europe this year. m. -- I didn't have to use my AK Today was A Good Day From andrew at soto.kasei.com Tue Apr 9 06:17:37 2002 From: andrew at soto.kasei.com (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Website in slightly better condition Message-ID: <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net> So, Marty pointed out how bad my webiste looked last night. Well it looks slightly better this morning. At least it looks the way it's meant to (mostly)[0] So her it is in all its glory. http://www.rivendale.net/blog andrew [0] apart from the few pages I haven't bothered updating because i'm going to start generating it all gfrom templates and can't be annoyed doing it twice. -- I think everyone thinks everyone is an ass on this list. - Matt Johnston on Blug From acme at astray.com Tue Apr 9 06:26:03 2002 From: acme at astray.com (Leon Brocard) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Website in slightly better condition In-Reply-To: <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net> References: <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net> Message-ID: <20020409112603.GA26235@ns0> Andrew Wilson sent the following bits through the ether: > http://www.rivendale.net/blog You really mean http://www.rivendale.net/blog.html Leon -- Leon Brocard.............................http://www.astray.com/ Nanoware...............................http://www.nanoware.org/ ... This is an email From andrew at soto.kasei.com Tue Apr 9 06:28:54 2002 From: andrew at soto.kasei.com (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Website in slightly better condition In-Reply-To: <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net> References: <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net> Message-ID: <20020409112854.GA30516@rivendale.net> On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 12:17:37PM +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: > So her it is in all its glory. > > http://www.rivendale.net/blog or: http://www.rivendale.net/blog.html if you want a link that works[0] :-( andrew [0] Come heap ridicule upon me now, for I am indeed incompetant boy[1] [1] Pheer me! and my l33t skillz -- Virgo: (Aug. 23 - Sept. 22) Anger and frustration overtake you when you decide that if you cannot have Betty Rubble, no man will. (c) Copyright 2002 by Onion, Inc. All rights reserved. From duggie-belfast-pm at blackstar.co.uk Tue Apr 9 06:36:09 2002 From: duggie-belfast-pm at blackstar.co.uk (Duggie) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Website in slightly better condition In-Reply-To: <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net>; from andrew@soto.kasei.com on Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 12:17:37PM +0100 References: <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net> Message-ID: <20020409123608.A10069@blackstar.co.uk> On (09/04/02 12:17), Andrew Wilson wrote: > So, Marty pointed out how bad my webiste looked last night. Well it > looks slightly better this morning. At least it looks the way it's meant > to (mostly)[0] > > So her it is in all its glory. > > http://www.rivendale.net/blog > > andrew That's a fantastic new look, Andrew. Broken so no-one can see it! :) I believe you mean: http://www.rivendale.net/blog.html Thanks Duggie -- "I love my brick." - Father Jack Hackett From any at longusername.worldonline.co.uk Tue Apr 9 07:15:49 2002 From: any at longusername.worldonline.co.uk (Stephen Clarke) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Website in slightly better condition References: <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net> Message-ID: <003301c1dfc0$4a150150$7fd1403e@steve> Ooops. that was meant to go to the list. Hi Andrew, I'm a newbie here, been lurking for a couple of days. Somehow I stumbled accross this list while wending my way through the mirky depths of the web. I don't exactly know how. I think I was searching for a perl module. I just checked your site. Nice clean layout using div's and css and no gratuitous bandwidth-hogging graphics. Looks great! As I glanced over your HTML I noticed you don't use tables. I thought, heck, I wish I could get by without using tables and still have it work in netscape. So I opened up your site in netscape. It went _blog.html, all on its own. I tried again, same thing. But no frameset in your page. So now I'm thinking your server must have a browser sniffer for netscape clients and redirect to _blog.html. Is that right? But there is no _blog.html. Evidently I'm missing something. :: confused :: Just wondering. Hope you don't mind my asking. {:-) -- Best, Stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Wilson" To: "Andrew Wilson" Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 12:28 PM Subject: Re: Website in slightly better condition > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 12:17:37PM +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: > > So her it is in all its glory. > > > > http://www.rivendale.net/blog > > or: > > http://www.rivendale.net/blog.html > > if you want a link that works[0] :-( > > andrew > [0] Come heap ridicule upon me now, for I am indeed incompetant boy[1] > [1] Pheer me! and my l33t skillz > -- > Virgo: (Aug. 23 - Sept. 22) > Anger and frustration overtake you when you decide that if you cannot > have Betty Rubble, no man will. > (c) Copyright 2002 by Onion, Inc. All rights reserved. From andrew at soto.kasei.com Tue Apr 9 07:44:56 2002 From: andrew at soto.kasei.com (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Website in slightly better condition In-Reply-To: <003301c1dfc0$4a150150$7fd1403e@steve> References: <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net> <003301c1dfc0$4a150150$7fd1403e@steve> Message-ID: <20020409124456.GB31477@rivendale.net> Hi Steve Welcome to belfast perl mongers. On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 01:15:49PM +0100, Stephen Clarke wrote: > I just checked your site. Nice clean layout using div's and css and no gratuitous bandwidth-hogging graphics. Looks great! Thanks, I'm really just learning how to do css at the moment. > As I glanced over your HTML I noticed you don't use tables. I thought, heck, I wish I could get by without using tables and still > have it work in netscape. So I opened up your site in netscape. It went _blog.html, all on its own. I tried again, same thing. But > no frameset in your page. So now I'm thinking your server must have a browser sniffer for netscape clients and redirect to > _blog.html. Is that right? But there is no _blog.html. Evidently I'm missing something. :: confused :: > > Just wondering. Hope you don't mind my asking. {:-) I don't mind at all. I haven't got a clue why it's doing that. Marty, it's your apache, any idea why it's doing that? As far as I know I'm not doing it. But that could be my incompetence again :-( andrew -- Taurus: (April. 20--May 20) Due to an odd arrangement of the constellations, you will be born the oldest son of Thomas Fludd, Treasurer of War to Queen Elizabeth, later this week. (c) Copyright 2002 by Onion, Inc. All rights reserved. From marty at kasei.com Tue Apr 9 11:50:20 2002 From: marty at kasei.com (Marty Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Java ssh in a browser In-Reply-To: <20020409153634.B7507@straylight.eu.org> References: <20020409153634.B7507@straylight.eu.org> Message-ID: <20020409165020.GB1890@soto.kasei.com> Skipped content of type multipart/mixed-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 220 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/archives/belfast-pm/attachments/20020409/c914136a/attachment.bin From karen at kasei.com Tue Apr 9 12:15:24 2002 From: karen at kasei.com (Karen Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Next month's meeting (Monday 13th May) Message-ID: <20020409171524.GA3785@soto.kasei.com> Next month's meeting will take place at 7pm on Monday 13th May. I'll send out details of the venue nearer the time. Steve will be talking on Mail::Audit. We are also planning (as Marc mentioned in a previous email) to have eight lightning talks. The talks should last no longer than seven minutes (you will have to finish your talk once the seven minutes is up). Would all those interested in presenting a talk please let me know as soon as possible. I will need a title for the talk and a short summary on what the talk is about. Thanks, Karen From aamcf at aamcf.co.uk Tue Apr 9 12:58:45 2002 From: aamcf at aamcf.co.uk (Andrew McFarland) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Website in slightly better condition In-Reply-To: <20020409123608.A10069@blackstar.co.uk> References: <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net> <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020409185119.03b0cec0@pop.ntlworld.com> At 12:36 09/04/02 +0100, Duggie wrote: > > So her it is in all its glory. > > > > http://www.rivendale.net/blog > > > > andrew > >That's a fantastic new look, Andrew. Broken so no-one can see it! :) > >I believe you mean: http://www.rivendale.net/blog.html Of course, you could turn multiviews on, so it didn't matter... Andrew `Just made the GIF to PNG Transition Painlessly' McFarland From andrew-dated-1018810614.176032 at rivendale.net Tue Apr 9 13:56:54 2002 From: andrew-dated-1018810614.176032 at rivendale.net (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Website in slightly better condition In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020409185119.03b0cec0@pop.ntlworld.com> References: <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net> <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20020409185119.03b0cec0@pop.ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <20020409185654.GA1144@gandalf> On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 06:58:45PM +0100, Andrew McFarland wrote: > >That's a fantastic new look, Andrew. Broken so no-one can see it! :) > > > >I believe you mean: http://www.rivendale.net/blog.html > > Of course, you could turn multiviews on, so it didn't matter... > > Andrew `Just made the GIF to PNG Transition Painlessly' McFarland So, what's a multiview and how would one go about turning it on. I assume it doesn't involve candelight dinners with Barry White[0] playing softly in the background cheers andrew [0] or Burt Bacharach for those of you inclined that way. -- Taurus: (April. 20?May 20) The stars indicate that they have stepped out for a moment and will be back at 3 p.m., if the little clock on their door can be believed. Horoscope supplied by the onion, http://www.theonion.com From aamcf at aamcf.co.uk Tue Apr 9 17:03:39 2002 From: aamcf at aamcf.co.uk (Andrew McFarland) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Website in slightly better condition In-Reply-To: <20020409185654.GA1144@gandalf> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020409185119.03b0cec0@pop.ntlworld.com> <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net> <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20020409185119.03b0cec0@pop.ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020409225148.03b58c80@pop.ntlworld.com> At 19:56 09/04/02 +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: >So, what's a multiview and how would one go about turning it on. I From the apache docs: "A MultiViews search is enabled by the MultiViews Option. If the server receives a request for /some/dir/foo and /some/dir/foo does not exist, then the server reads the directory looking for all files named foo.*, and effectively fakes up a type map which names all those files, assigning them the same media types and content-encodings it would have if the client had asked for one of them by name. It then chooses the best match to the client's requirements, and returns that document." http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_negotiation.html It is useful if you want to change a resource from one kind of file to another, or offer one sort of file to some browsers but another to others. For example, all the images on http://aamcf.co.uk/ are linked to using URIs like `http://aamcf.co.uk/images/blue'. Each graphic is there as a GIF and a PNG. Browsers that request a PNG in preference to GIF get a PNG, and vice versa. I could replace all the graphics with JPEGs and everything would still work. For more on why you would want to do this, see http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html (mod_speling is a similar sort of toy which is worth playing with if you feel so inclined.) Andrew -- http://aamcf.co.uk/ From andrew-dated-1018829100.e2d497 at rivendale.net Tue Apr 9 19:04:59 2002 From: andrew-dated-1018829100.e2d497 at rivendale.net (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Website in slightly better condition In-Reply-To: <003301c1dfc0$4a150150$7fd1403e@steve> References: <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net> <003301c1dfc0$4a150150$7fd1403e@steve> Message-ID: <20020410000459.GA1354@gandalf> On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 01:15:49PM +0100, Stephen Clarke wrote: > As I glanced over your HTML I noticed you don't use tables. I thought, heck, I wish I could get by without using tables and still > have it work in netscape. So I opened up your site in netscape. It went _blog.html, all on its own. I tried again, same thing. But > no frameset in your page. So now I'm thinking your server must have a browser sniffer for netscape clients and redirect to > _blog.html. Is that right? But there is no _blog.html. Evidently I'm missing something. :: confused :: > > Just wondering. Hope you don't mind my asking. {:-) I've checked this out with my copy of mozilla and it isn't doing this. Are you sure it's doing it for you? it sounds really strange. cheers Andrew From any at longusername.worldonline.co.uk Tue Apr 9 20:19:25 2002 From: any at longusername.worldonline.co.uk (Stephen Clarke) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Website in slightly better condition References: <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net> <003301c1dfc0$4a150150$7fd1403e@steve> <20020410000459.GA1354@gandalf> Message-ID: <059901c1e02d$c2ddf200$7fd1403e@steve> Hi Andrew, Yes. It's doing a re-direct out of netscape communicator 4.7 running on win2k. I don't know why. It seems to try to give the proper page in the first instance, albeit with a completely different style, then it just takes off to _blog.html. I tried it in lynx, works fine. -- Best, Stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Wilson" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:04 AM Subject: Re: Website in slightly better condition > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 01:15:49PM +0100, Stephen Clarke wrote: > > As I glanced over your HTML I noticed you don't use tables. I thought, heck, I wish I could get by without using tables and still > > have it work in netscape. So I opened up your site in netscape. It went _blog.html, all on its own. I tried again, same thing. But > > no frameset in your page. So now I'm thinking your server must have a browser sniffer for netscape clients and redirect to > > _blog.html. Is that right? But there is no _blog.html. Evidently I'm missing something. :: confused :: > > > > Just wondering. Hope you don't mind my asking. {:-) > > I've checked this out with my copy of mozilla and it isn't doing this. > Are you sure it's doing it for you? it sounds really strange. > > cheers > > Andrew From blug at nerv.cx Wed Apr 10 01:43:58 2002 From: blug at nerv.cx (Liyang Hu) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: [BLUG] Java ssh in a browser In-Reply-To: <20020409165020.GB1890@soto.kasei.com> References: <20020409153634.B7507@straylight.eu.org> <20020409165020.GB1890@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20020410064358.GD1395@cam.ac.uk> On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 05:50:20PM +0100, Marty Pauley wrote: > The ssh client is called 'mindterm'. It's Free (as in speech). Not anymore. I'm afraid MindTerm has gone the way of SSH for quite a long time now. You can still find the version of it before they changed the license floating about all over the place[0] though. /Liyang [0] eg. in Debian. -- .--{ Liyang HU }--{ http://nerv.cx/ }--{ Caius@Cam }--{ ICQ: 39391385 }--. | drug, n: A substance that, when injected into a rat, | | produces a scientific paper. | From tony at kasei.com Wed Apr 10 01:59:53 2002 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Website in slightly better condition In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020409225148.03b58c80@pop.ntlworld.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020409185119.03b0cec0@pop.ntlworld.com> <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net> <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20020409185119.03b0cec0@pop.ntlworld.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20020409225148.03b58c80@pop.ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <20020410065952.GA9295@soto.kasei.com> On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 11:03:39PM +0100, Andrew McFarland wrote: > http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html "Except insolvency, nothing prevents the domain name owner from keeping the name." Yeah, right. Tony From andrew at rivendale.net Wed Apr 10 04:31:30 2002 From: andrew at rivendale.net (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: [andrew@rivendale.net: Re: Website in slightly better condition] Message-ID: <20020410093130.GB11387@rivendale.net> Hi I keep replying to individual authors instead of the list. sorry ----- Forwarded message from Andrew Wilson ----- Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:22:35 +0100 To: Tony Bowden From: Andrew Wilson Subject: Re: Website in slightly better condition On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 07:59:53AM +0100, Tony Bowden wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 11:03:39PM +0100, Andrew McFarland wrote: > > http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html > > "Except insolvency, nothing prevents the domain name owner from keeping > the name." > > Yeah, right. Yeah that's nonsense. But that was a throwaway comment, the rest of it seems fairly sound. Be careful when you pick your URL/URIs. I think this matters more when it's a document rather than dynamic info like say a video page on blackstar's site. Does it really mattter greatly if the format of that changes? Actually now that I'm thinking about it it probably does, because other people will probably link to those pages. Interesting idea, anybody have any ideas about which URIs it might be ok to change, or should all URIs stay consistant all the time. As they used to say: It is never valid for the format of a URI to change. URis should be chosen to reflect the content of a page, not it's means of storage or distribution. Discuss. andrew -- Virgo: (Aug. 23 - Sept. 22) Anger and frustration overtake you when you decide that if you cannot have Betty Rubble, no man will. (c) Copyright 2002 by Onion, Inc. All rights reserved. ----- End forwarded message ----- andrew -- Leo: (July 23 - Aug. 22) Remember, it's perfectly normal for your body to go through some changes while you are in the phase known as 'post - mortem deliquescence.' (c) Copyright 2002 by Onion, Inc. All rights reserved. From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org Thu Apr 11 07:52:48 2002 From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Next month's meeting (Monday 13th May) In-Reply-To: <20020409171524.GA3785@soto.kasei.com> References: <20020409171524.GA3785@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20020411135248.B15733@futureless.org> On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 06:15:24PM +0100, Karen Pauley wrote: > Next month's meeting will take place at 7pm on Monday 13th May. I have an exam that day X( I may have to take back my offer of talking about my project. Maybe we could do more lightning talks another time? > Steve will be talking on Mail::Audit. Excellent! I wanted to hear this talk (about 6 months ago). > The talks should last no longer than seven minutes (you will have to > finish your talk once the seven minutes is up). Would all those > interested in presenting a talk please let me know as soon as possible. > I will need a title for the talk and a short summary on what the talk is > about. If I'm able (ie, not brainfried) my talk will be about my final year project. It is a mod_perl app for multi-user websites that has theming and customisation. It's currently called "Apache::Onanox", until I can get a better name... BTW, Monday's meeting was good. We should have another social soon. -- Russell Matbouli | russell@futureless.org | Think about terminology PGP KeyID: 0x3CA84CF4 | -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Ireland | | andrewgallagher.tripod.com | web.am.qub.ac.uk/~ab.gallagher/pubkey | From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Thu Apr 11 11:34:28 2002 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Website in slightly better condition In-Reply-To: <20020411172835.Q28539@wolverine.am.qub.ac.uk>; from Andrew Gallagher on Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 05:28:36PM +0100 References: <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net> <20020409112854.GA30516@rivendale.net> <20020411172835.Q28539@wolverine.am.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20020411173428.E8966@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 05:28:36PM +0100, Andrew Gallagher wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 12:28:54PM +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 12:17:37PM +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: > > > So her it is in all its glory. > > > > > > http://www.rivendale.net/blog > > > > or: > > > > http://www.rivendale.net/blog.html > > > > if you want a link that works[0] :-( > > Doesn't millennium have two n's? Of course, none of those links work anymore, and if you had, for example, your own blog linked to entries in said blog, then they wouldn't work anymore, would they? Try: www.rivendale.net/blog/current.html m. -- I didn't have to use my AK Today was A Good Day From andrew at soto.kasei.com Thu Apr 11 11:46:59 2002 From: andrew at soto.kasei.com (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:37 2004 Subject: Website in slightly better condition In-Reply-To: <20020411172835.Q28539@wolverine.am.qub.ac.uk> References: <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net> <20020409112854.GA30516@rivendale.net> <20020411172835.Q28539@wolverine.am.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20020411164659.GH23578@rivendale.net> On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 05:28:36PM +0100, Andrew Gallagher wrote: > > http://www.rivendale.net/blog.html > > > > if you want a link that works[0] :-( > > Doesn't millennium have two n's? Well it certainly looks like it to me. Millenium however has only one n. It could also be said that millennnium has three ns and Millennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnniumn has 37. While these may not be sensible things to say they would certainly be accurate. andrew -- Gemini: (May 21 - June 21) You will be chained to a rock, upon which eagles will devour your liver for all eternity, after you steal the secret of a great marinara sauce from the gods. (c) Copyright 2002 by Onion, Inc. All rights reserved. From andrew at soto.kasei.com Thu Apr 11 11:50:01 2002 From: andrew at soto.kasei.com (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: Website in slightly better condition In-Reply-To: <20020411173428.E8966@tux.blackstar.co.uk> References: <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net> <20020409112854.GA30516@rivendale.net> <20020411172835.Q28539@wolverine.am.qub.ac.uk> <20020411173428.E8966@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020411165001.GI23578@rivendale.net> On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 05:34:28PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > > > http://www.rivendale.net/blog.html > > > > > > if you want a link that works[0] :-( > > > > Doesn't millennium have two n's? > > Of course, none of those links work anymore, and if you had, for Really? It works for me, it says this is not the blog you're looking for and by Jimminy it isn't! > example, your own blog linked to entries in said blog, then they > wouldn't work anymore, would they? > > Try: > > www.rivendale.net/blog/current.html Yoy might very well say that, i couldn't possibly comment. andrew -- Aquarius: (Jan. 20--Feb. 18) Your tragic visit to the U.S. Mint is a windfall for coin collectors, who will soon pay up to ,000 for pennies stamped with tiny pieces of you. (c) Copyright 2002 by Onion, Inc. All rights reserved. From andrew-dated-1018980866.32c696 at rivendale.net Thu Apr 11 13:14:25 2002 From: andrew-dated-1018980866.32c696 at rivendale.net (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: Website in slightly better condition In-Reply-To: <20020411172835.Q28539@wolverine.am.qub.ac.uk> References: <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net> <20020409112854.GA30516@rivendale.net> <20020411172835.Q28539@wolverine.am.qub.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20020411181425.GA1310@gandalf> On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 05:28:36PM +0100, Andrew Gallagher wrote: > Doesn't millennium have two n's? Aaarrgh! Ok I admit it I can't spell. cheers andrew -- Taurus: (April. 20 - May 20) Your fear that everyone knows your deepest, darkest secrets is groundless. No one even knows you exist. Horoscope supplied by the onion, http://www.theonion.com From tony at kasei.com Fri Apr 12 01:55:23 2002 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: Website in slightly better condition In-Reply-To: <20020411181425.GA1310@gandalf> References: <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net> <20020409112854.GA30516@rivendale.net> <20020411172835.Q28539@wolverine.am.qub.ac.uk> <20020411181425.GA1310@gandalf> Message-ID: <20020412065522.GA2440@soto.kasei.com> On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 07:14:25PM +0100, Andrew Wilson wrote: > Aaarrgh! Ok I admit it I can't spell. Consistent has an 'e' where you have an 'a' also... Should we start on your grammar now? (PS tutorials almost always have the problem of the author knowing too much. The only way it'll get any better is if beginners jot down their problems, and either point them out to the authors, or write their own tutorial...) Tony From andrew at soto.kasei.com Fri Apr 12 04:14:02 2002 From: andrew at soto.kasei.com (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: Website in slightly better condition In-Reply-To: <20020412065522.GA2440@soto.kasei.com> References: <20020409111737.GA30378@rivendale.net> <20020409112854.GA30516@rivendale.net> <20020411172835.Q28539@wolverine.am.qub.ac.uk> <20020411181425.GA1310@gandalf> <20020412065522.GA2440@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20020412091402.GB3296@rivendale.net> On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 07:55:23AM +0100, Tony Bowden wrote: > Consistent has an 'e' where you have an 'a' also... > > Should we start on your grammar now? Feel free. I think I'm geting that its it's thing right most of the time now since you educated me. > (PS tutorials almost always have the problem of the author knowing too > much. The only way it'll get any better is if beginners jot down their > problems, and either point them out to the authors, or write their > own tutorial...) That might be a good idea, but then I can't spell or construct sentances :-) andrew -- Aries: (March 21--April 19) Although your life has been uneventful up until now, there is something special in store for Aries. (c) Copyright 2002 by Onion, Inc. All rights reserved. From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Sun Apr 14 06:52:17 2002 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: access log module Message-ID: <20020414125217.A7982@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Yo, dudes-who-post-sporadically. Does anyone know of a perl app/module for parsing access logs? I had a quick look on CPAN, and I am probably looking for the wrong thing, but I couldn't find any. Failing that, a linux app that I could use would do. (Actually, if there isn't one, I may write one.) m. -- It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression Symbolic of his struggle against reality more like From dmw at punkass.com Sun Apr 14 09:04:21 2002 From: dmw at punkass.com (Dave Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: access log module In-Reply-To: <20020414125217.A7982@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020414150210.A17436@dw> > Does anyone know of a perl app/module for parsing access logs? I had a > quick look on CPAN, and I am probably looking for the wrong thing, but I > couldn't find any. When you say parsing, you mean turning it into referencable data or something? There is stuff like analog, and so on, that turn access logs into HTML, but I don't think you mean that.. > Failing that, a linux app that I could use would do. (Actually, if there > isn't one, I may write one.) There are plenty of things to parse your access logs with, but I like keeping them i in a DB (so no parsing required) in the first place: [2:dw]# grep -i sql /etc/httpd/httpd.conf LoadModule mysql_log_module lib/apache/mod_log_mysql.so MySQLLoginInfo localhost root bleh MySQLDatabase logs MySQLTransferLogTable http MySQLTransferLogFormat SvsAURh That'd be mod_log_mysql, modules.apache.org (I think). -- def d(a=0,b=10,c="fuqn"):print\ '\n'.join(map(lambda x,c=c:'\ '.join(map(lambda y,x=x,c=c:\ y+(' '*x),c)),range(a,b))) From schwern at pobox.com Sun Apr 14 13:42:50 2002 From: schwern at pobox.com (schwern@pobox.com) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: access log module In-Reply-To: <20020414125217.A7982@tux.blackstar.co.uk>; from mwk@stray-toaster.co.uk on Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 12:52:17PM +0100 References: <20020414125217.A7982@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020414144250.D2092@magnonel.guild.net> On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 12:52:17PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > Does anyone know of a perl app/module for parsing access logs? I had a > quick look on CPAN, and I am probably looking for the wrong thing, but I > couldn't find any. Logfile::Apache, Apache::LogFile, Apache::ParseLog, Log::Dispatch::ApacheLog -- Michael G Schwern http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Perl6 Quality Assurance Kwalitee Is Job One From joe at benburb.demon.co.uk Mon Apr 15 13:19:50 2002 From: joe at benburb.demon.co.uk (joe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: RTF::* Message-ID: <3CBB19C6.6DE35348@benburb.demon.co.uk> Please, any out there know anything about using perl to convert plain txt to rtf. My requirements are simple: just convert a stipulated file so I can email it as a .doc attachment. I've tried pulling RTF::Generator from CPAN, but the documentation is too sparse to get me started :-( I am using unix/linux type platforms. Perhaps I don't need perl at all for this job ? -- Joe Mc Cool ======================================================================== Tangent Computer Research BT71 7LN (www.tangent-research.com) voice:(44)2837-548074fax:(44)-870-0520185 The more you say the less the better. From schwern at pobox.com Mon Apr 15 14:12:03 2002 From: schwern at pobox.com (Michael G Schwern) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: RTF::* In-Reply-To: <3CBB19C6.6DE35348@benburb.demon.co.uk> References: <3CBB19C6.6DE35348@benburb.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020415191202.GA1866@blackrider> On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 07:19:50PM +0100, joe wrote: > any out there know anything about using perl to convert plain txt to > rtf. > > My requirements are simple: just convert a stipulated file so I can > email it as a .doc attachment. There's rtf2html and rtf2text, but nothing to go the other way that I know of. OS X's TextEdit deals with RTF. Failing that, maybe something like Abiword can save as RTF for you? Word does open plain text, Microsoft hasn't yet attempted to relicense ASCII. :) -- Michael G. Schwern http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Perl Quality Assurance Kwalitee Is Job One Let's leave my ass out of this, shall we? From joe at benburb.demon.co.uk Mon Apr 15 15:46:14 2002 From: joe at benburb.demon.co.uk (joe mc cool) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: RTF::* In-Reply-To: <20020415191202.GA1866@blackrider> References: <3CBB19C6.6DE35348@benburb.demon.co.uk> <20020415191202.GA1866@blackrider> Message-ID: <15547.14761.200000.207798@benburb.tangent.com> Michael G Schwern writes: > > My requirements are simple: just convert a stipulated file so I can > > email it as a .doc attachment. snip > Word does open plain text, Microsoft hasn't yet attempted to relicense > ASCII. :) Yes, but if you send ascii attachments to the niave, they will report that they cannot open them ! I was hoping that I could use RTF::Generate under perl to knock together some kind of command line thingy, but perhaps not. Joe From paul.dundas at btinternet.com Mon Apr 15 16:32:40 2002 From: paul.dundas at btinternet.com (Paul Dundas) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: RTF::* References: <3CBB19C6.6DE35348@benburb.demon.co.uk> <20020415191202.GA1866@blackrider> <15547.14761.200000.207798@benburb.tangent.com> Message-ID: <3CBB46F8.8030207@btinternet.com> joe mc cool wrote: >Michael G Schwern writes: > > > My requirements are simple: just convert a stipulated file so I can > > > email it as a .doc attachment. > >snip > > > Word does open plain text, Microsoft hasn't yet attempted to relicense > > ASCII. :) > >Yes, but if you send ascii attachments to the niave, they will report >that they cannot open them ! > Yes, but if you rename foo.txt to foo.doc, it'll be sent to the naive user's Word for Windys, which WILL be able to open it :-) -- Paul D ( paul.dundas@btinternet.com ) "There is no limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit." - Robert Woodruff? From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org Thu Apr 18 11:52:13 2002 From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: [upload@p11.speed-link.de: CPAN Upload: I/ID/IDORU/Apache-Onanox-0.01.tar.gz] Message-ID: <20020418175213.A15759@futureless.org> Skipped content of type multipart/mixed-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/archives/belfast-pm/attachments/20020418/dd238bed/attachment.bin From steve-belfast-pm at narnian.org Thu Apr 18 18:03:30 2002 From: steve-belfast-pm at narnian.org (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: Server Message-ID: <20020419000330.A10573@caspian.inhouseinternet.net> Hi, Was just thinking... Is anything going to be done about the annoyingly slow server? There was talk of someone hosting it somewhere more local (for local people :). There's got to be someone around here who could knock up a quick ezmlm setup or somesuch. I would offer, but I'd either get 'Hahahahahaha' or 'Let Russell do it'. -- Steve Foy steve@narnian.org From Andrew.Wilson at trw.com Fri Apr 19 03:42:30 2002 From: Andrew.Wilson at trw.com (Wilson, Andrew (Belfast)) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: Server Message-ID: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5E011157A5@BELFAST2> Hi On: 19 April 2002 00:04, Steve Foy said: > Hi, > > Was just thinking... Is anything going to be done about the annoyingly > slow server? > > There was talk of someone hosting it somewhere more local (for local > people :). There's got to be someone around here who could knock up a > quick ezmlm setup or somesuch. I would offer, but I'd either get > 'Hahahahahaha' or 'Let Russell do it'. I think I sent my reply to Steve last night instead of the list :-( Some of us are in the processes of acquitring a server which willl be connected 24/7 and would be suitable for hosting this. One of us will set it up when that's in place. cheers Andrew From duggie-belfast-pm at blackstar.co.uk Fri Apr 19 04:15:31 2002 From: duggie-belfast-pm at blackstar.co.uk (Duggie) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: Server In-Reply-To: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5E011157A5@BELFAST2>; from Andrew.Wilson@trw.com on Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 09:42:30AM +0100 References: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5E011157A5@BELFAST2> Message-ID: <20020419101531.A24301@blackstar.co.uk> On (19/04/02 09:42), Wilson, Andrew (Belfast) wrote: > Hi > > On: 19 April 2002 00:04, Steve Foy said: > > Hi, > > > > Was just thinking... Is anything going to be done about the annoyingly > > slow server? > > > > There was talk of someone hosting it somewhere more local (for local > > people :). There's got to be someone around here who could knock up a > > quick ezmlm setup or somesuch. I would offer, but I'd either get > > 'Hahahahahaha' or 'Let Russell do it'. > > I think I sent my reply to Steve last night instead of the list :-( > > Some of us are in the processes of acquitring a server which willl be > connected 24/7 and would be suitable for hosting this. One of us will > set it up when that's in place. > > cheers > > Andrew Oh right, good job. Of course, I'd be happy to 'Let Russell do it' :) Actually, he might want something to do now that he's a student without a project... Thanks Duggie -- How did they not hit Yoko? From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org Fri Apr 19 06:56:59 2002 From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: Server In-Reply-To: <20020419000330.A10573@caspian.inhouseinternet.net> References: <20020419000330.A10573@caspian.inhouseinternet.net> Message-ID: <20020419125659.A21438@futureless.org> On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 12:03:30AM +0100, Steve Foy wrote: > There was talk of someone hosting it somewhere more local (for local > people :). There's got to be someone around here who could knock up a > quick ezmlm setup or somesuch. I would offer, but I'd either get > 'Hahahahahaha' or 'Let Russell do it'. No, let R... what was the question again? -- Russell Matbouli | Jam your brain with broken heros russell@futureless.org | Love your masks and adore your failure PGP KeyID: 0x3CA84CF4 | -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/archives/belfast-pm/attachments/20020419/a6309db3/attachment.bin From DFRaB9z8E at yahoo.com Mon Apr 22 12:44:03 2002 From: DFRaB9z8E at yahoo.com (DFRaB9z8E@yahoo.com) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: toner cartridges Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/belfast-pm/attachments/20020422/1ed18e68/attachment.htm From steve-belfastpm at deeden.co.uk Fri Apr 26 07:14:54 2002 From: steve-belfastpm at deeden.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: Class::DBI in Template Toolkit Message-ID: <20020426121454.GA34235@deeden.co.uk> lo all I was doing some TT and Class::DBI stuff last night when I came across a slight problem. I'm sure there's a sensible solution to this, but I was too tired last night and I'm too busy today to sort it out. The problem is that I want to call a class method in a module from within my template. I've created a plugin to let me access the module using the standard "pass onto new" technique, but this of course doesn't work well when trying to access a class method within the module. This is due to the fact that the module will return undef with no parameters passed to new. I could I suppose change new to return a "blank" object if called with no parameters, but I don't really want to lose the benefit of undef for an invalid parameter to new. So does anyone have any ideas on how to get around this, and have I missed something extraordinarily simple? Steve -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk I've given you so much rope you should have been hanging for days. From tony at kasei.com Fri Apr 26 07:24:22 2002 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: Class::DBI in Template Toolkit In-Reply-To: <20020426121454.GA34235@deeden.co.uk> References: <20020426121454.GA34235@deeden.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020426122422.GA7530@soto.kasei.com> On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 08:14:54AM -0400, Steve Rushe wrote: > So does anyone have any ideas on how to get around this, and have I missed > something extraordinarily simple? All too abstract for me, I'm afraid... If you have a simple example, I'm sure we could come up with something ... Tony From steve-belfastpm at deeden.co.uk Fri Apr 26 07:35:38 2002 From: steve-belfastpm at deeden.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: Class::DBI in Template Toolkit In-Reply-To: <20020426122422.GA7530@soto.kasei.com> References: <20020426121454.GA34235@deeden.co.uk> <20020426122422.GA7530@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20020426123538.GA38260@deeden.co.uk> On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 01:24:22PM +0100, Tony Bowden wrote: > > All too abstract for me, I'm afraid... > > If you have a simple example, I'm sure we could come up with something ... I'll construct something later and post it. thanks Steve -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me! From karen at kasei.com Fri Apr 26 11:22:26 2002 From: karen at kasei.com (Karen Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: Lightning Talks Message-ID: <20020426162226.GA11802@soto.kasei.com> Hello, So far we have four people willing to give a lightning talk next month. It would be good to have some more. Could anyone interested please let me know. Thanks, Karen From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Fri Apr 26 11:43:20 2002 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: Lightning Talks In-Reply-To: <20020426162226.GA11802@soto.kasei.com>; from Karen Pauley on Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 05:22:26PM +0100 References: <20020426162226.GA11802@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20020426174320.D21051@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 05:22:26PM +0100, Karen Pauley wrote: > Hello, > > So far we have four people willing to give a lightning talk next month. > It would be good to have some more. Could anyone interested please let > me know. And remember kids, there is a 'no heckling' rule. m. -- I think everyone thinks everyone is an ass on this list. From karen at martian.org Fri Apr 26 11:58:07 2002 From: karen at martian.org (Karen Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: Future Meetings Message-ID: <20020426165807.GD11802@soto.kasei.com> Hi, I seem to be sending more messages this evening than I've posted in weeks. Anyway, Damian Conway will be coming to Europe again in September as he is planning on attending YAPC::Europe. As part of his European trip he is considering the possibility of coming back to Belfast. So, would anyone be interested in attending training courses given by Damian? I assume that I don't really need to ask whether or not we would like him to speak at Belfast.pm as the answer would be YES! Karen From karen at martian.org Fri Apr 26 12:01:09 2002 From: karen at martian.org (Karen Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: Lightning Talks In-Reply-To: <20020426174320.D21051@tux.blackstar.co.uk> References: <20020426162226.GA11802@soto.kasei.com> <20020426174320.D21051@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020426170109.GE11802@soto.kasei.com> On Fri Apr 26 17:43:20 2002, Stray Toaster wrote: > > So far we have four people willing to give a lightning talk next month. > > It would be good to have some more. Could anyone interested please let > > me know. > > And remember kids, there is a 'no heckling' rule. > Well I'm sure that everyone can easily work out from that comment that Marc will be giving one of the talks. Karen From dmw at punkass.com Mon Apr 29 05:19:06 2002 From: dmw at punkass.com (Dave Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: [Geeky] Monkey gone to Heaven In-Reply-To: <20020210103646.A6989@futureless.org> References: <20020210103646.A6989@futureless.org> Message-ID: <20020429111906.A1014@dw> > I like Perl. I like the Pixies. So I combined them. [0] Insults, please ;) > Better yet, let's start a song coding thread. *runs and hides* > [0] The lyrics are at http://dag.wieers.com/debaser/lyric/monkeygo.php if > you want to compare... You complete geek! I just found this.. halarious. The devil, man, and god assignments are a bit dodgey though ;) -dw -- Now that my house has burned down I have a much better view of the moon. From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org Mon Apr 29 09:05:24 2002 From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: [Geeky] Monkey gone to Heaven In-Reply-To: <20020429111906.A1014@dw> References: <20020210103646.A6989@futureless.org> <20020429111906.A1014@dw> Message-ID: <20020429150524.D19418@futureless.org> On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 11:19:06AM +0100, Dave Wilson wrote: > You complete geek! I just found this.. halarious. The devil, man, and god You just found it... six weeks after I posted it to the list. > The devil, man, and god > assignments are a bit dodgey though ;) Well, artistic license. I was sticking to the original song. > Now that my house has burned down I have a much better view of the moon. That's good to hear, Ralph. -- Russell Matbouli | Please could you stop the noise russell@futureless.org | I'm trying to get some rest PGP KeyID: 0x3CA84CF4 | From all the unborn chicken voices in my head -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 232 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/archives/belfast-pm/attachments/20020429/b8c40c18/attachment.bin From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org Mon Apr 29 09:31:04 2002 From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: RFC: Cascading Style Sheet creator Message-ID: <20020429153104.K19418@futureless.org> In my project, I have a function that creates a CSS from the user's preferences stored in the database. While waiting for the bus, I realised this might be useful if I abstracted it away. Is there already something to do this? If not, I'll do a wee bit of design and create a module to do this. For the interface, would it be useful to take a reference to a hash of hashes and create the style sheet from that? Ie, $foo->{body}->{colour} = "#000000"; $foo->{body}->{font-colour} = "#FFFFFF"; $foo->{body}->{font-size} = "1.2em"; my $css = &make_CSS($foo); Anyone have a better idea? Comments, please. -- Russell Matbouli | russell@futureless.org | Give a gift PGP KeyID: 0x3CA84CF4 | -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Everyone else: *racuous laughter* From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org Mon Apr 29 10:32:20 2002 From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: RFC: Cascading Style Sheet creator In-Reply-To: <20020429161731.E18278@tux.blackstar.co.uk> References: <20020429153104.K19418@futureless.org> <20020429161731.E18278@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20020429163220.K20050@futureless.org> On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 04:17:31PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > http://www.stray-toaster.co.uk/whsst.jpg I'm going to release 0.02 of Apache::Onanox today. Except that name has been scrubbed. It's called Chameleon now. You'll be able to get it as Apache::Chameleon tomorrow, all being well. Let the golf begin! =) -- Russell Matbouli | The future teaches you to be alone russell@futureless.org | the present to be afraid and cold PGP KeyID: 0x3CA84CF4 | -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You don't like the new > name? bah, bloody pm list and it's lack of reply to, yeah, it's fine, I was being silly :) -- -Barry Hughes It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. http://bazza.com/ From bazza at bazza.com Mon Apr 29 10:38:31 2002 From: bazza at bazza.com (barry) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:38 2004 Subject: RFC: Cascading Style Sheet creator In-Reply-To: <20020429163220.K20050@futureless.org> References: <20020429153104.K19418@futureless.org> <20020429161731.E18278@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20020429163220.K20050@futureless.org> Message-ID: <20020429153831.GA25890@bazza.com> On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 04:32:20PM +0100, Russell Matbouli mumbled: > On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 04:17:31PM +0100, Stray Toaster wrote: > > http://www.stray-toaster.co.uk/whsst.jpg > I'm going to release 0.02 of Apache::Onanox today. Except that name has > been scrubbed. It's called Chameleon now. You'll be able to get it as > Apache::Chameleon tomorrow, all being well. Let the golf begin! =) aww, what happened the other names we came up with including wiphabo etc?? :) -- -Barry Hughes As usual, this being a 1.3.x release, I haven't even compiled this kernel yet. So if it works, you should be doubly impressed. (Linus Torvalds, announcing kernel 1.3.3 on the linux-kernel mailing list.) http://bazza.com/ From pcturbo6 at yahoo.com.br Wed Apr 3 13:52:58 2002 From: pcturbo6 at yahoo.com.br (pcturbo6) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:55:31 2004 Subject: CLINICA DO PENIS AUMENTE SEU PENIS EM ATE 7cm Message-ID: <200401162344.i0GNiVb07548@mail.pm.org> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/belfast-pm/attachments/20020403/87e196fc/attachment.htm