From swm at swmcc.com Thu Nov 1 06:51:09 2001 From: swm at swmcc.com (Stephen McCullough) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:16 2004 Subject: Would the unnamed narrator please stand up ... In-Reply-To: <20011031114243.A14235@tux.blackstar.co.uk>; from mwk@stray-toaster.co.uk on Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 11:42:43AM +0000 References: <20011031113856.A11893@soto.kasei.com> <20011031114243.A14235@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011101125109.A15055@gandalf.tradeelectronically.com> Hi, > On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 11:38:56AM +0000, Tony Bowden wrote: > > > > From the site: > > > > Next Meeting: > > > > Second Monday of the month again as always! So far we have two gullible > > fools roped into giving talks, myself and Andrew. I'll be giving a talk > > on Mail::Audit, why it's so much nicer than procmail and why you should > > be using it to deal with your mail. Where is the next meeting being held? Thanks, -- Stephen McCullough http://www.swmcc.com I want someone good, I mean very good, to plant that gun. I don't want my brother coming out of the bathroom with just his dick in his hands. The Godfather (1972) From steve-belfastpm at deeden.co.uk Thu Nov 1 08:33:14 2001 From: steve-belfastpm at deeden.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:16 2004 Subject: Would the unnamed narrator please stand up ... In-Reply-To: <20011101125109.A15055@gandalf.tradeelectronically.com>; from swm@swmcc.com on Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 12:51:09PM +0000 References: <20011031113856.A11893@soto.kasei.com> <20011031114243.A14235@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20011101125109.A15055@gandalf.tradeelectronically.com> Message-ID: <20011101093313.A4083@deeden.co.uk> On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 12:51:09PM +0000, Stephen McCullough wrote: > > Where is the next meeting being held? > A very good question. Anyone have any ideas? Steve -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk I've given you so much rope you should have been hanging for days. Sugarcoated - Aimee Mann From karen at kasei.com Thu Nov 1 09:00:00 2001 From: karen at kasei.com (Karen Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:16 2004 Subject: Would the unnamed narrator please stand up ... In-Reply-To: <20011101093313.A4083@deeden.co.uk> References: <20011031113856.A11893@soto.kasei.com> <20011031114243.A14235@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20011101125109.A15055@gandalf.tradeelectronically.com> <20011101093313.A4083@deeden.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011101150000.B23409@soto.kasei.com> On Thu Nov 1 09:33:14 2001, Steve Rushe wrote: > On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 12:51:09PM +0000, Stephen McCullough wrote: > > > > Where is the next meeting being held? > > > > A very good question. Anyone have any ideas? I have loads of ideas ;) Do you want me to find a venue? -- Karen From Andrew.Wilson at trw.com Thu Nov 1 09:46:36 2001 From: Andrew.Wilson at trw.com (Wilson, Andrew (Belfast)) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:16 2004 Subject: Would the unnamed narrator please stand up ... Message-ID: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5EDAE15C@BELFAST2> > -----Original Message----- > From: Karen Pauley [mailto:karen@kasei.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 3:00 PM > > On Thu Nov 1 09:33:14 2001, Steve Rushe wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 01, 2001 at 12:51:09PM +0000, Stephen McCullough wrote: > > > > > > Where is the next meeting being held? > > > > > > > A very good question. Anyone have any ideas? > > I have loads of ideas ;) > > Do you want me to find a venue? Hi Karen Speaking for myself, that would be great [0]. cheers Andrew -- [0] Didn't you agree to do this at the last meeting? From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Sat Nov 3 08:02:54 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:16 2004 Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Module release by one of our own... Message-ID: <20011103140254.A30592@tux.blackstar.co.uk> http://cpan.valueclick.com/authors/id/S/ST/STRYTOAST/ OK, so it ain't rocket surgery, but your comments are welcome. This is version one. There are plans for the next release... Enjoy. Or not. m. -- So they went off together. But wherever they go, and whatever happens to them on the way, in that enchanted place on the top of the Forest a little boy and his Bear will always be playing. From karen at kasei.com Tue Nov 6 07:31:25 2001 From: karen at kasei.com (Karen Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:16 2004 Subject: Venue for next week's meeting Message-ID: <20011106133125.C3533@soto.kasei.com> Hello, Russell has been speaking to UTVi and they have agreed to let us use a room next Monday night. The room is smaller than the one we used in UNITE but we can have more chairs :) For security reasons they need to be provided with a list of all the people who are planning on attending. If we use their room we need to have vacated by 9 o'clock. I'm not sure where the office is (Russell will know that). So, what do you think? -- Karen From steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk Tue Nov 6 07:47:38 2001 From: steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:16 2004 Subject: Venue for next week's meeting In-Reply-To: <20011106133125.C3533@soto.kasei.com>; from karen@kasei.com on Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 01:31:25PM +0000 References: <20011106133125.C3533@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011106134738.A23540@blackstar.co.uk> On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 01:31:25PM +0000, Karen Pauley wrote: > > For security reasons they need to be provided with a list of > all the people who are planning on attending. > > So, what do you think? Well I'm planning on going. There's a small chance I won't make it, but I should do. UTV sounds alright, and as long as people turn up on time, we shouldn;t have a problem Steve -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk I've given you so much rope you should have been hanging for days. Sugarcoated - Aimee Mann From tony at kasei.com Tue Nov 6 07:50:20 2001 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:16 2004 Subject: Venue for next week's meeting In-Reply-To: <20011106133125.C3533@soto.kasei.com> References: <20011106133125.C3533@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011106135019.A6192@soto.kasei.com> On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 01:31:25PM +0000, Karen Pauley wrote: > For security reasons they need to be provided with a list of > all the people who are planning on attending. I'll be there. Tony -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tony Bowden | tony@tmtm.com | http://www.tmtm.com/ The problem is communication. Too much communication. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From swm at swmcc.com Tue Nov 6 08:34:47 2001 From: swm at swmcc.com (Stephen McCullough) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:16 2004 Subject: Venue for next week's meeting In-Reply-To: <20011106135019.A6192@soto.kasei.com>; from tony@kasei.com on Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 01:50:20PM +0000 References: <20011106133125.C3533@soto.kasei.com> <20011106135019.A6192@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011106143447.A18942@gandalf.swmcc.com> On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 01:50:20PM +0000, Tony Bowden wrote: > On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 01:31:25PM +0000, Karen Pauley wrote: > > For security reasons they need to be provided with a list of > > all the people who are planning on attending. I'll be there also. Thanks, -- Stephen McCullough http://www.swmcc.com Now you listen to me, you smooth talking son-of-a-bitch! Let me lay it on the line for you and your boss, whoever he is. Johnny Fontane willl never get that movie! I don't care how many dago guinea wop greaseball goombahs come out of the woodwork! The Godfather (1972) From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org Tue Nov 6 09:12:43 2001 From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:16 2004 Subject: Venue for next week's meeting In-Reply-To: <20011106133125.C3533@soto.kasei.com> References: <20011106133125.C3533@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011106151243.A25330@futureless.org> On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 01:31:25PM +0000, Karen Pauley wrote: > I'm not sure where the office is (Russell will know that). 31 Bruce Street. The building says McCann Erickson on top, and currently looks like an advertisement for Nescaf? *spit* Bruce Street is off Gt. Victoria St. and has MGM/Virgin/UGC cinema at one end, and IBM in the middle. The shop next to UTVi in Beaver. Sorry. If anyone doesn't know where Gt. Victoria St. is, you have stuff to worry about! I can give my mobile number to whoever is coming offlist in case there is any problem - if you're late, you can't get in the building or go anywhere in the lift without a key, so you'll need to buzz through or phone us. So, what time shall we meet at, given that we have to be out of there by 9pm? Russell, JAsleepdeprivedH -- Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Do we want to eat a traditional Christmas Dinner? Do we want to go out to a restaurant and have e.g. a Chinese meal? Are we inviting partners or is it Perl Mungers only? What night of the week should we try to book it for -- Karen From steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk Wed Nov 7 08:19:14 2001 From: steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:17 2004 Subject: Christmas Dinner In-Reply-To: <20011107140157.C13061@soto.kasei.com>; from karen@kasei.com on Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 02:01:57PM +0000 References: <20011107140157.C13061@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011107141914.A27484@blackstar.co.uk> On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 02:01:57PM +0000, Karen Pauley wrote: > At the last meeting we discussed the possibility of going > out for dinner at Christmas. Are people still on for this? Sounds like a plan. > Do we want to eat a traditional Christmas Dinner? > Do we want to go out to a restaurant and have e.g. a Chinese meal? Don't mind either of the above particularly. > What night of the week should we try to book it for I don't mind, as long as it's not the 14th of December Steve > -- > Karen -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk Space is cold, home is colder when you come home at night and there's nobody here. - The All Seeing I From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Thu Nov 8 04:30:16 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:17 2004 Subject: Christmas Dinner In-Reply-To: <20011107141914.A27484@blackstar.co.uk>; from Steve Rushe on Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 02:19:14PM +0000 References: <20011107140157.C13061@soto.kasei.com> <20011107141914.A27484@blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011108103016.A2489@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 02:19:14PM +0000, Steve Rushe wrote: > On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 02:01:57PM +0000, Karen Pauley wrote: > > At the last meeting we discussed the possibility of going > > out for dinner at Christmas. Are people still on for this? > > Sounds like a plan. The man with the plan. (Not me, Steve. Or: Not me. Steve.) Yup, I would be in. > > > Do we want to eat a traditional Christmas Dinner? > > Do we want to go out to a restaurant and have e.g. a Chinese meal? > > Don't mind either of the above particularly. Food = good, so whatever. Ginger Tree? > > > What night of the week should we try to book it for > > I don't mind, as long as it's not the 14th of December I would agree with that, for reasons. Oh, and I week I am not on call *might* be nice as well, not that I actually drink anything other than water these days.... m. (the thought of food at the minute isn't really helping my upset lil tum-tum...) -- So they went off together. But wherever they go, and whatever happens to them on the way, in that enchanted place on the top of the Forest a little boy and his Bear will always be playing. From sleepy_uk at hotmail.com Thu Nov 8 06:50:01 2001 From: sleepy_uk at hotmail.com (Scott McWhirter) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:17 2004 Subject: Christmas Dinner Message-ID: >Food = good, so whatever. Ginger Tree? i'm in, but how bout some sushi? -- -Scott McWhirter- | -kungfuftr- PGP key id: 0x3C79CF1D _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From liyang at nerv.cx Thu Nov 8 07:49:43 2001 From: liyang at nerv.cx (Liyang Hu) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:17 2004 Subject: Christmas Dinner In-Reply-To: ; from sleepy_uk@hotmail.com on Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 12:50:01PM +0000 References: Message-ID: <20011108134943.B5683@srcf.ucam.org> On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 12:50:01PM +0000, Scott McWhirter wrote: > >Food = good, so whatever. Ginger Tree? > i'm in, but how bout some sushi? Don't know if you said that on purpose or not, but the Ginger Tree is the /only/[0] Japanese restaurant in Northern Ireland. I suspect they'd serve susi. /Liyang [0] As far as I know. I'd love it if it were otherwise ... -- .--| Liyang Hu |--| http://nerv.cx/ |--| Caius@Cam |--| ICQ: 39391385 |--. | ... life is important. It's not only life of babies, but it's life of | | children living in, you know, the dark dungeons of the Internet. | | -- George `Dubya' Bush, 2000-10-24 | From Paul_Marquess at yahoo.co.uk Thu Nov 8 08:39:37 2001 From: Paul_Marquess at yahoo.co.uk (Paul Marquess) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:17 2004 Subject: Venue for next week's meeting In-Reply-To: <20011106133125.C3533@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: From: Karen Pauley > Hello, > > Russell has been speaking to UTVi and they have agreed to > let us use a room next Monday night. The room is smaller > than the one we used in UNITE but we can have more chairs :) > > For security reasons they need to be provided with a list of > all the people who are planning on attending. I'll try to attend. Paul _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From andrewg at am.qub.ac.uk Thu Nov 8 08:58:23 2001 From: andrewg at am.qub.ac.uk (Andrew Gallagher) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:17 2004 Subject: Christmas Dinner In-Reply-To: <20011108134943.B5683@srcf.ucam.org>; from liyang@nerv.cx on Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 01:49:43PM +0000 References: <20011108134943.B5683@srcf.ucam.org> Message-ID: <20011108145823.P952@wolverine.am.qub.ac.uk> On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 01:49:43PM +0000, Liyang Hu wrote: > On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 12:50:01PM +0000, Scott McWhirter wrote: > > >Food = good, so whatever. Ginger Tree? > > i'm in, but how bout some sushi? > > Don't know if you said that on purpose or not, but the Ginger Tree > is the /only/[0] Japanese restaurant in Northern Ireland. I > suspect they'd serve susi. There are a couple of other places in Belfast that do Japanese food -- one notable is Bar Soba in Hill St. The Ginger Tree is however the only _authentic_ place I know of... -- | Andrew Gallagher | | Computer Support Asst., Dept. of Applied Maths and Theoretical | | Physics, Queen's University of Belfast, BT7 1NN, N. Ireland | | andrewgallagher.tripod.com | web.am.qub.ac.uk/~ab.gallagher/pubkey | From bazza at bazza.com Thu Nov 8 11:01:35 2001 From: bazza at bazza.com (barry) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:17 2004 Subject: Christmas Dinner In-Reply-To: <20011108134943.B5683@srcf.ucam.org> References: <20011108134943.B5683@srcf.ucam.org> Message-ID: <20011108170135.A17975@bazza.com> On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 01:49:43PM +0000, Liyang Hu mumbled: > On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 12:50:01PM +0000, Scott McWhirter wrote: > > >Food = good, so whatever. Ginger Tree? > > i'm in, but how bout some sushi? > Don't know if you said that on purpose or not, but the Ginger Tree > is the /only/[0] Japanese restaurant in Northern Ireland. I > suspect they'd serve susi. > /Liyang > [0] As far as I know. I'd love it if it were otherwise ... Mmmm, I'd love to try some real sushi, I've only managed to have supermarket stuff, which I assume is crappy stuff, and even it was good -- -Barry Hughes "But you should keep in mind that we don't do windows" -- John Campbell, Hubble Program manager on using computers with 2 megabytes of memory on the telescope http://bazza.com/ From liyang at nerv.cx Thu Nov 8 16:16:31 2001 From: liyang at nerv.cx (Liyang Hu) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:17 2004 Subject: Christmas Dinner In-Reply-To: <20011108170135.A17975@bazza.com>; from bazza@bazza.com on Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 05:01:35PM +0000 References: <20011108134943.B5683@srcf.ucam.org> <20011108170135.A17975@bazza.com> Message-ID: <20011108221631.A2063@srcf.ucam.org> On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 05:01:35PM +0000, barry wrote: > > Don't know if you said that on purpose or not, but the Ginger > > Tree is the /only/[0] Japanese restaurant in Northern Ireland. > > I suspect they'd serve susi. > Mmmm, I'd love to try some real sushi, I've only managed to have > supermarket stuff, which I assume is crappy stuff, and even it > was good Uhuh. They use cooked fish. People get hanged in Japan for doing that sort of thing, you know. Although, too much raw fish does tend to upset my tender stomach ... I remember it all too well from this summer. ;_; /Liyang -- going for ?? [ie. Real susi] next Saturday in London, yay! -- .--| Liyang Hu |--| http://nerv.cx/ |--| Caius@Cam |--| ICQ: 39391385 |--. | "Up your butt with a coconut!" | | "You've got facial hair like a polar bear!" | | -- Daphne and Celeste: "Ooh Stick You" | From karen at kasei.com Fri Nov 9 04:27:01 2001 From: karen at kasei.com (Karen Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:17 2004 Subject: Christmas Dinner In-Reply-To: <20011108103016.A2489@tux.blackstar.co.uk> References: <20011107140157.C13061@soto.kasei.com> <20011107141914.A27484@blackstar.co.uk> <20011108103016.A2489@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011109102701.A25157@soto.kasei.com> Marc, > I would agree with that, for reasons. Oh, and I week I am not on call > *might* be nice as well, not that I actually drink anything other than > water these days.... You could let me know what week you are on call. It might make it easier for me to pick a date... -- Karen From Andrew.Wilson at trw.com Fri Nov 9 05:16:17 2001 From: Andrew.Wilson at trw.com (Wilson, Andrew (Belfast)) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:17 2004 Subject: Christmas Dinner Message-ID: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5EDAE174@BELFAST2> > -----Original Message----- > From: Karen Pauley [mailto:karen@kasei.com] > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:27 AM > > Marc, > > > I would agree with that, for reasons. Oh, and I week I am > > not on call *might* be nice as well, not that I actually > > drink anything other than water these days.... > > You could let me know what week you are on call. It might make it > easier for me to pick a date... Aren't Duggie and Steve also on this list and possibly considering going to the dinner? A better question might be - is duggie going? and when is Colm on call? ... our two questions should be ... etc. cheers Andrew From duggie-belfast-pm at blackstar.co.uk Fri Nov 9 05:46:23 2001 From: duggie-belfast-pm at blackstar.co.uk (duggie-belfast-pm@blackstar.co.uk) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:17 2004 Subject: Christmas Dinner In-Reply-To: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5EDAE174@BELFAST2>; from Andrew.Wilson@trw.com on Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 11:16:17AM -0000 References: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5EDAE174@BELFAST2> Message-ID: <20011109114623.A9821@blackstar.co.uk> On (09/11/01 11:16), Wilson, Andrew (Belfast) wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Karen Pauley [mailto:karen@kasei.com] > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:27 AM > > > > Marc, > > > > > I would agree with that, for reasons. Oh, and I week I am > > > not on call *might* be nice as well, not that I actually > > > drink anything other than water these days.... > > > > You could let me know what week you are on call. It might make it > > easier for me to pick a date... > > Aren't Duggie and Steve also on this list and possibly considering > going to the dinner? A better question might be - is duggie going? > and when is Colm on call? ... our two questions should be ... etc. Damn, I've been foiled! My lurking career is over. Eh, I would go although I'm not keen on the sushi idea[0] - hence when that suggestion was made, I decided not to raise my head. Thanks Duggie [0] Being allergic to fish, eating it raw wouldn't be a good idea. From Andrew.Wilson at trw.com Fri Nov 9 07:31:49 2001 From: Andrew.Wilson at trw.com (Wilson, Andrew (Belfast)) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:17 2004 Subject: Christmas Dinner Message-ID: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5EDAE176@BELFAST2> > -----Original Message----- > From: duggie-belfast-pm@blackstar.co.uk > [mailto:duggie-belfast-pm@blackstar.co.uk] > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 11:46 AM > > Damn, I've been foiled! My lurking career is over. > Eh, I would go although I'm not keen on the sushi idea[0] - hence when > that suggestion was made, I decided not to raise my head. > > Thanks > Duggie > > [0] Being allergic to fish, eating it raw wouldn't be a good idea. Sushi is one of the most disgusting substances known to man. Don't let the fact that we may be going Japenese put you off. I despise sushi but I really like japenese food. Sushi is a subset of Japenese cuisine. Most of the menu at the Ginger tree is not Sushi. Then again if you've decided not to go because you don't actually like us, well there's not much we can do about that ;-) cheers Andrew From karen at kasei.com Fri Nov 9 08:14:25 2001 From: karen at kasei.com (Karen Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:17 2004 Subject: Christmas Dinner In-Reply-To: <20011109114623.A9821@blackstar.co.uk> References: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5EDAE174@BELFAST2> <20011109114623.A9821@blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011109141425.F25157@soto.kasei.com> > Damn, I've been foiled! My lurking career is over. > Eh, I would go although I'm not keen on the sushi idea[0] - hence when > that suggestion was made, I decided not to raise my head. The Ginger Tree serve great Chicken Yakitori and Tori Karaage as well as a variety of other non-fishy things :) I'm going to contact them to see if the second Monday in December is free -- Karen From duggie-belfast-pm at blackstar.co.uk Fri Nov 9 08:22:10 2001 From: duggie-belfast-pm at blackstar.co.uk (duggie-belfast-pm@blackstar.co.uk) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:17 2004 Subject: Christmas Dinner In-Reply-To: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5EDAE176@BELFAST2>; from Andrew.Wilson@trw.com on Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 01:31:49PM -0000 References: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5EDAE176@BELFAST2> Message-ID: <20011109142210.B18910@blackstar.co.uk> On (09/11/01 13:31), Wilson, Andrew (Belfast) wrote: > Sushi is one of the most disgusting substances known to man. Don't > let the fact that we may be going Japenese put you off. I despise > sushi but I really like japenese food. Sushi is a subset of Japenese > cuisine. Most of the menu at the Ginger tree is not Sushi. > > Then again if you've decided not to go because you don't actually > like us, well there's not much we can do about that ;-) Well, if I'm being honest... I hate you guys. Duggie No, I don't really. And I do like non-sushi, Japanese food, so I will more-than-likely go. From steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk Fri Nov 9 08:37:15 2001 From: steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:17 2004 Subject: Christmas Dinner In-Reply-To: <20011109141425.F25157@soto.kasei.com>; from karen@kasei.com on Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 02:14:25PM +0000 References: <65BB8AA6E3A6D211A6C500902733DD5EDAE174@BELFAST2> <20011109114623.A9821@blackstar.co.uk> <20011109141425.F25157@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011109143715.A29565@blackstar.co.uk> On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 02:14:25PM +0000, Karen Pauley wrote: > > The Ginger Tree serve great Chicken Yakitori and Tori Karaage as well > as a variety of other non-fishy things :) That's okay then! I thought I was going to be eating fish for a while there, and it's not even September. > I'm going to contact them to see if the second Monday in December is > free If anyone says "2nd Monday of the month doesn't suit me", I'll set Marc on them! Steve -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me! Julius Caesar - Carry on Cleo From sleepy_uk at hotmail.com Thu Nov 8 08:44:26 2001 From: sleepy_uk at hotmail.com (Scott McWhirter) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:17 2004 Subject: belfast-pm t-shirts Message-ID: how about the output from heh.pl?: #!/usr/bin/perl -w print "Real Perl Mongers Can Understand This!\n"; #!/usr/bin/perl -w use Smirch; Smirch::smear("blah.pl"); Just an idea.... -- -Scott McWhirter- | -kungfuftr- PGP key id: 0x3C79CF1D _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From stevefoy at ntlworld.com Sat Nov 10 09:56:10 2001 From: stevefoy at ntlworld.com (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:17 2004 Subject: Email checking Message-ID: <002b01c16a00$377d7e40$6501a8c0@steve> Hi, Can anyone reccommend any email checking scripts/modules (from CPAN possibly)? Steve From tony at kasei.com Sat Nov 10 10:19:34 2001 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:17 2004 Subject: Email checking In-Reply-To: <002b01c16a00$377d7e40$6501a8c0@steve> References: <002b01c16a00$377d7e40$6501a8c0@steve> Message-ID: <20011110161933.A5511@soto.kasei.com> On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 03:56:10PM -0000, Steve Foy wrote: > Can anyone reccommend any email checking scripts/modules (from CPAN > possibly)? Meaning? Tony -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tony Bowden | tony@tmtm.com | http://www.tmtm.com/ Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Sat Nov 10 12:15:52 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:17 2004 Subject: Email checking In-Reply-To: <002b01c16a00$377d7e40$6501a8c0@steve>; from Steve Foy on Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 03:56:10PM -0000 References: <002b01c16a00$377d7e40$6501a8c0@steve> Message-ID: <20011110181552.A11104@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 03:56:10PM -0000, Steve Foy wrote: > Hi, > > Can anyone reccommend any email checking scripts/modules (from CPAN > possibly)? You know about three seconds on search.cpan.org came up: Email::Valid You know, I am not in a good mood after going shopping, which I hate at the best of times, but you know, searching CPAN first and then asking if anyone had used any email validators would have been a better idea. Oh, right, you did ask for recommendations. But I am still in a ratty mood. Why-oh-why do people just stop in front of you, stop dead? No need. Forweard planning goes a long way. And why does everyone walk in the opposite direction to me? I don't talk to myself that loudly. Never listen to women when they say getting out of the house and interacting with others in a retail setting is a good thig. It is not. Tho I did meet a mate from ages ago, so it wasn't terminal. Actually, it was. I hate shopping, I hate shopping at Christmas. Now the pagan fertility symbols are appearing in Ballymena it is time to go. Away. m. -- So they went off together. But wherever they go, and whatever happens to them on the way, in that enchanted place on the top of the Forest a little boy and his Bear will always be playing. From stevefoy at ntlworld.com Sat Nov 10 11:01:13 2001 From: stevefoy at ntlworld.com (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:17 2004 Subject: Email checking References: <002b01c16a00$377d7e40$6501a8c0@steve> <20011110161933.A5511@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <003901c16a09$4e0fe900$6501a8c0@steve> > > Can anyone reccommend any email checking scripts/modules (from CPAN > > possibly)? > > Meaning? mmm... good point I suppose that doesnt make much sense, unless you're me. Can anyone recommend any email address verification scripts/modules. I verify to check email addresses for 'validness'. Also I heard about Mail:CheckUser. Has anyone used this, or have any opinions as to wether it is half-decent or not? Steve From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Sat Nov 10 13:02:56 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:17 2004 Subject: Email checking In-Reply-To: <003901c16a09$4e0fe900$6501a8c0@steve>; from Steve Foy on Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 05:01:13PM -0000 References: <002b01c16a00$377d7e40$6501a8c0@steve> <20011110161933.A5511@soto.kasei.com> <003901c16a09$4e0fe900$6501a8c0@steve> Message-ID: <20011110190256.A11294@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 05:01:13PM -0000, Steve Foy wrote: > > > Can anyone reccommend any email checking scripts/modules (from CPAN > > > possibly)? > > > > Meaning? > > mmm... good point > I suppose that doesnt make much sense, unless you're me. > Can anyone recommend any email address verification scripts/modules. I > verify to check email addresses for 'validness'. Also I heard about > Mail:CheckUser. Has anyone used this, or have any opinions as to wether it > is half-decent or not? > Doesn't Abigail have something twisted to fit for this purpose? From tony at kasei.com Sat Nov 10 13:25:10 2001 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:17 2004 Subject: Email checking In-Reply-To: <20011110190256.A11294@tux.blackstar.co.uk> References: <002b01c16a00$377d7e40$6501a8c0@steve> <20011110161933.A5511@soto.kasei.com> <003901c16a09$4e0fe900$6501a8c0@steve> <20011110190256.A11294@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011110192510.A6942@soto.kasei.com> On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 07:02:56PM +0000, Stray Toaster wrote: > > Can anyone recommend any email address verification scripts/modules. > Doesn't Abigail have something twisted to fit for this purpose? RFC::RFC822::Address It's not twisted at all, it just makes sure the address is compliant with the RFC. Tony -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tony Bowden | tony@tmtm.com | http://www.tmtm.com/ The problem is communication. Too much communication. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From schwern at pobox.com Sat Nov 10 14:21:59 2001 From: schwern at pobox.com (Michael G Schwern) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:17 2004 Subject: Email checking In-Reply-To: <002b01c16a00$377d7e40$6501a8c0@steve> References: <002b01c16a00$377d7e40$6501a8c0@steve> Message-ID: <20011110152159.A2446@blackrider> On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 03:56:10PM -0000, Steve Foy wrote: > Can anyone reccommend any email checking scripts/modules (from CPAN > possibly)? Email::Valid, Email::Find, Mail::Address, Mail::Audit, RFC::RFC822::Address Or you can avoid all that module complexity and use this simple regex. 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*\)[\040\t]*)*)*>) -- Michael G. Schwern http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Perl6 Quality Assurance Kwalitee Is Job One huh huh huh huh huh i will seduce you baby or not, no offense -- Fmh From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org Fri Nov 9 10:04:28 2001 From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:17 2004 Subject: Attendees to Monday's meeting (urgent) Message-ID: <20011109160428.D26422@futureless.org> If your name's not here, you can't get in So far I have: Karen Pauley Steve Rushe Tony Bowden Stephen McCullough Scott McWhirter and me If you're intending on going, could you please let me know ASAP. I need to pass on the list of names soon. Cheers, Russell -- Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From: barry Subject: Re: Attendees to Monday's meeting (urgent) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:34:26 +0000 Size: 1479 Url: http://mail.pm.org/archives/belfast-pm/attachments/20011111/971ea8ce/attachment.eml From karen at kasei.com Sun Nov 11 10:27:38 2001 From: karen at kasei.com (Karen Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Attendees to Monday's meeting (urgent) In-Reply-To: <20011109160428.D26422@futureless.org> References: <20011109160428.D26422@futureless.org> Message-ID: <20011111162738.A11777@soto.kasei.com> Hi Russell, > So far I have: > > Karen Pauley > Steve Rushe > Tony Bowden > Stephen McCullough > Scott McWhirter > and me The following people have also stated that they hope to be able to attend: Keith Speers Andrew Wilson Paul Marquess -- Karen From steve at unite.net Sun Nov 11 10:32:07 2001 From: steve at unite.net (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Attendees to Monday's meeting (urgent) References: <20011109160428.D26422@futureless.org> Message-ID: <003801c16ace$67fc9be0$6501a8c0@steve> > So far I have: > > Karen Pauley > Steve Rushe > Tony Bowden > Stephen McCullough > Scott McWhirter I'm not going to go... Steve From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org Sun Nov 11 13:16:56 2001 From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: [bazza@bazza.com: Re: Attendees to Monday's meeting (urgent)] In-Reply-To: <20011111153452.B16979@bazza.com> References: <20011111153452.B16979@bazza.com> Message-ID: <20011111191656.O26422@futureless.org> On Sun, Nov 11, 2001 at 03:34:52PM +0000, barry wrote: > put me down and remind me of the time, it's at UTV isn't it? I'll try and get Time? 7pm? Or do we need to start earlier since we only have until 9... Also, it is UTV Internet, ie, Bruce Street and not Havelock House Russell, noticing all the lurkers coming out of the woodwork... -- Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Or do we need to start earlier since we only have until 9... noted that from the website after my original message > Also, it is UTV Internet, ie, Bruce Street and not Havelock House ah hah, good that that's cleared up, would have gone to the wrong place :) -- -Barry Hughes If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something. http://bazza.com/ From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org Sun Nov 11 15:14:36 2001 From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Attendees to Monday's meeting (urgent) In-Reply-To: <20011109160428.D26422@futureless.org> References: <20011109160428.D26422@futureless.org> Message-ID: <20011111211436.Q26422@futureless.org> If your name isn't here and you want to go, please let my know by (early-ish) tomorrow morning (Monday). Karen Pauley Steve Rushe Tony Bowden Stephen McCullough Scott McWhirter Keith Speers Andrew Wilson Paul Marquess Barry Hughes and me. Steve Foy ISN'T going, as he has already stated... Location: Front door of UTV Internet, 31 Bruce Street Time: 7pm - if you're late you'll have to wait outside in the cold rain while someone comes with keys to let you in :) It might be a bit of a squeeze! We should all have seats though. I'll try to get there early and see what shape the computer there is in (I've never used it). I'm not even sure if the computer there is on the network (sneakernet if all else fails) To those giving talks, do you need to use the computer, and if so, what application do you need? Cheers, Russell -- Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Julius Caesar - Carry on Cleo From karen at kasei.com Mon Nov 12 05:07:17 2001 From: karen at kasei.com (Karen Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Attendees to Monday's meeting (urgent) In-Reply-To: <20011112105407.B28880@blackstar.co.uk> References: <20011109160428.D26422@futureless.org> <20011111162738.A11777@soto.kasei.com> <20011112105407.B28880@blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011112110717.B16908@soto.kasei.com> On Mon Nov 12 10:54:07 2001, Steve Rushe wrote: > Sadly I won't be going. I have to stay at home and wait for a phone call > :( Sorry about that peeps... Sorry to hear that you can't go. Does this mean that there is nobody speaking at tonight's meeting as Marc also can't make it? If this is the case I will try to get some other people to speak. -- Karen From steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk Mon Nov 12 05:11:44 2001 From: steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Attendees to Monday's meeting (urgent) In-Reply-To: <20011112110717.B16908@soto.kasei.com>; from karen@kasei.com on Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 11:07:17AM +0000 References: <20011109160428.D26422@futureless.org> <20011111162738.A11777@soto.kasei.com> <20011112105407.B28880@blackstar.co.uk> <20011112110717.B16908@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011112111144.A10848@blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 11:07:17AM +0000, Karen Pauley wrote: > > Sorry to hear that you can't go. Does this mean that there is > nobody speaking at tonight's meeting as Marc also can't make it? > > If this is the case I will try to get some other people to speak. Well not to dump anyone in i, but I've heard rumours tha Andrew is going to do a talk :) Steve -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk Space is cold, home is colder when you come home at night and there's nobody here. - The All Seeing I From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org Mon Nov 12 19:32:00 2001 From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: What happened at tonight's meeting Message-ID: <20011113013200.C31261@futureless.org> The situation was not ideal as the computer there was WIP as opposed to WIMP. Luckily, Barry brought a laptop, which we plugged in everything seemed fine again. Andrew faffed around with Emacs *spit* for ages while Karen tried to fill in. After a while Andrew did the right thing (C-X, C-C) and just talked instead. We learned of his "port" of a Python app for tagging email. He is going to put it on CPAN for all to see. Tony then talked on Class::DBI, the slides of which are available at http://www.class-dbi.com/slides He said some controversial things which may never be repeated (until he talks about Class::DBI next time). Tony told us about what Class::DBI can do, and told us about helper modules. He introduced TT to some people too. We all went away and ported all our applications to use Class::DBI. Paul mentioned a tool he has for swapping between use warnings and -w at install time, which some people got very interested in. Barry showed us his Mail::Audit script and pondered about rejecting messages, but no-one seemed to know why it wasn't working for him. That's all I can remember. Russell -- Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm sure if we booked as a group we could get a good deal with bmi. k.... to bed with me... other things to mention but not bothered for now.... -- -Scott McWhirter- | -kungfuftr- PGP key id: 0x3C79CF1D _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From sleepy_uk at hotmail.com Wed Nov 14 16:12:37 2001 From: sleepy_uk at hotmail.com (Scott McWhirter) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: export vs export_ok Message-ID: hey all, i'm currently writing a module hopefully for cpan. The module is basically one function &any. I would like to just be able to say use This::Thing; and then run &any anywhere within that script. I have it working with @EXPORT but i know that cpan likes to use @EXPORT_OK but that requires a qw(..) thing beside the use part. And i'd rather get away with using plain "use This::Thing;" Any ideas would be of great help. thankyou! -- -Scott McWhirter- | -kungfuftr- PGP key id: 0x3C79CF1D _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From schwern at pobox.com Wed Nov 14 16:36:48 2001 From: schwern at pobox.com (Michael G Schwern) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: export vs export_ok In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20011114173648.I6519@blackrider> On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 10:12:37PM +0000, Scott McWhirter wrote: > I would like to just be able to say > use This::Thing; > and then run &any anywhere within that script. I have it working with > @EXPORT but i know that cpan likes to use @EXPORT_OK but that requires a > qw(..) thing beside the use part. And i'd rather get away with using plain > "use This::Thing;" > Any ideas would be of great help. Stick with @EXPORT. The somewhat overzealous "If you must export try to use @EXPORT_OK in preference to @EXPORT" is somewhat overzealous. If the whole point of your module is to export one or two functions, use @EXPORT. Rule of thumb: If every time you want to use the module you're going to have to say: use Some::Module qw(this_func); then you might as well just export this_func by default. -- Michael G. Schwern http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Perl6 Quality Assurance Kwalitee Is Job One I know you get this a lot, but you're breathtaking, like a vision of simplicity From Paul_Marquess at yahoo.co.uk Thu Nov 15 02:45:34 2001 From: Paul_Marquess at yahoo.co.uk (Paul Marquess) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: export vs export_ok In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > hey all, > > i'm currently writing a module hopefully for cpan. The module is > basically > one function &any. > I would like to just be able to say > use This::Thing; > and then run &any anywhere within that script. I have it working with > @EXPORT but i know that cpan likes to use @EXPORT_OK but that requires a > qw(..) thing beside the use part. And i'd rather get away with > using plain > "use This::Thing;" > Any ideas would be of great help. It you are only exporting one function I would just stick with @EXPORT. Paul _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From marty at soto.kasei.com Thu Nov 15 05:11:11 2001 From: marty at soto.kasei.com (Marty Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: export vs export_ok In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20011115111111.D12144@soto.kasei.com> On Wed Nov 14 22:12:37 2001, Scott McWhirter wrote: > hey all, > > i'm currently writing a module hopefully for cpan. The module is basically > one function &any. What does your 'any' do? Is it different from Damian's 'any'? -- Marty -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Tony -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tony Bowden | tony@tmtm.com | http://www.tmtm.com/ the woods are lovely, dark, and deep, but I have promises to keep -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Fri Nov 16 03:32:35 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: YAPC::Europe In-Reply-To: ; from Scott McWhirter on Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 10:36:00PM +0000 References: Message-ID: <20011116093235.C18987@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 10:36:00PM +0000, Scott McWhirter wrote: > hey all, > > *scott being bored looks for flights to yapc close to a year in advance* > k, cheapest i've found so far is ?143 inc tax > This is with british midland from belfast bouncing through london. I'm sure > if we booked as a group we could get a good deal with bmi. Considering my parents-in-law fly to Munchen three or four times a year, and have never paid more than 77 quid return for their tickets, there must be a better way. I will ask them. If I remember. (Spot the clue: My sister-in-law lives in Munchen. YAPC and the beer festival. Cheap accomidation. (for me...) hurrah!) m. From karen at kasei.com Fri Nov 16 09:23:22 2001 From: karen at kasei.com (Karen Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Damian Conway visit next February Message-ID: <20011116152322.A18792@soto.kasei.com> Damian would like to know what he will be speaking to the Perl Mongers about when he visits in February. For his visit I am planning on organising two Perl Monger's meetings in the first week of February and maybe even an evening social event. I would like Damian to give his Extreme Perl talk (see http://www.yetanother.org/damian/events/Extreme.html) and his Life, The Universe, and Everything talk (see http://www.yetanother.org/damian/events/Life.html). I have heard the second one and it is amazing. These are only suggestions - is there anything else that other people would prefer? e.g. Quantum::Superpositions, Perl 6 Thanks, -- Karen From Paul_Marquess at yahoo.co.uk Fri Nov 16 09:52:50 2001 From: Paul_Marquess at yahoo.co.uk (Paul Marquess) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Damian Conway visit next February In-Reply-To: <20011116152322.A18792@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: > > Damian would like to know what he will be speaking to > the Perl Mongers about when he visits in February. > > For his visit I am planning on organising two Perl > Monger's meetings in the first week of February and > maybe even an evening social event. > > I would like Damian to give his Extreme Perl talk > (see http://www.yetanother.org/damian/events/Extreme.html) > and his Life, The Universe, and Everything talk (see > http://www.yetanother.org/damian/events/Life.html). I have > heard the second one and it is amazing. > > These are only suggestions - is there anything else that other > people would prefer? e.g. Quantum::Superpositions, Perl 6 Perl 6. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk Fri Nov 16 10:07:29 2001 From: steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Damian Conway visit next February In-Reply-To: ; from Paul_Marquess@yahoo.co.uk on Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 03:52:50PM -0000 References: <20011116152322.A18792@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011116160729.A8118@blackstar.co.uk> I agree with Paul, I'd like Perl 6. Maybe Life... for the other one? Steve -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk Eeek, out of cheese error. From bazza at bazza.com Fri Nov 16 10:19:56 2001 From: bazza at bazza.com (barry) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Damian Conway visit next February In-Reply-To: <20011116152322.A18792@soto.kasei.com> References: <20011116152322.A18792@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011116161956.A10906@bazza.com> On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 03:23:22PM +0000, Karen Pauley mumbled: > Damian would like to know what he will be speaking to > the Perl Mongers about when he visits in February. > For his visit I am planning on organising two Perl > Monger's meetings in the first week of February and > maybe even an evening social event. > I would like Damian to give his Extreme Perl talk > (see http://www.yetanother.org/damian/events/Extreme.html) > and his Life, The Universe, and Everything talk (see > http://www.yetanother.org/damian/events/Life.html). I have > heard the second one and it is amazing. > These are only suggestions - is there anything else that other > people would prefer? e.g. Quantum::Superpositions, Perl 6 ye olde modules and OO :) -- -Barry Hughes my parents made me what I am today .. I'm thinking of suing http://bazza.com/ From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Fri Nov 16 10:28:19 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Damian Conway visit next February In-Reply-To: <20011116152322.A18792@soto.kasei.com>; from Karen Pauley on Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 03:23:22PM +0000 References: <20011116152322.A18792@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011116162819.C30849@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 03:23:22PM +0000, Karen Pauley wrote: > Damian would like to know what he will be speaking to > the Perl Mongers about when he visits in February. > > For his visit I am planning on organising two Perl > Monger's meetings in the first week of February and > maybe even an evening social event. > > I would like Damian to give his Extreme Perl talk > (see http://www.yetanother.org/damian/events/Extreme.html) > and his Life, The Universe, and Everything talk (see > http://www.yetanother.org/damian/events/Life.html). I have > heard the second one and it is amazing. > > These are only suggestions - is there anything else that other > people would prefer? e.g. Quantum::Superpositions, Perl 6 > Steve: Marc, read your mail me: but I am working! Steve: Yes, but if you don't reply to Karen, you can't moan. me: about what? Steve: Marc, read your email. marc adjusts the straps on his helmet and looks at the badge that says 'if lost please return to....' From tony at kasei.com Fri Nov 16 10:45:02 2001 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Damian Conway visit next February In-Reply-To: <20011116152322.A18792@soto.kasei.com> References: <20011116152322.A18792@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011116164501.A23974@soto.kasei.com> On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 03:23:22PM +0000, Karen Pauley wrote: > I would like Damian to give his Extreme Perl talk > (see http://www.yetanother.org/damian/events/Extreme.html) +1 > and his Life, The Universe, and Everything talk (see > http://www.yetanother.org/damian/events/Life.html). +0 > Quantum::Superpositions, +0 > Perl 6 -1 Tony From andrew at rivendale.net Fri Nov 16 13:36:58 2001 From: andrew at rivendale.net (Andrew Wilson) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Damian Conway visit next February In-Reply-To: <20011116152322.A18792@soto.kasei.com> References: <20011116152322.A18792@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011116193658.A1145@gandalf.rivendale.net> On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 03:23:22PM +0000, Karen Pauley wrote: > For his visit I am planning on organising two Perl > Monger's meetings in the first week of February and > maybe even an evening social event. > > I would like Damian to give his Extreme Perl talk > (see http://www.yetanother.org/damian/events/Extreme.html) > and his Life, The Universe, and Everything talk (see > http://www.yetanother.org/damian/events/Life.html). I have > heard the second one and it is amazing. I've heard the second one, it's excellent. > These are only suggestions - is there anything else that other > people would prefer? e.g. Quantum::Superpositions, Perl 6 I _really_ want to hear the exteme programming talk. Can I vote for it twice? Oh alright then, I wouldn't mind either the LU&E or Q::S talks, but _definitely_ the extreme perl talk. cheers Andrew (did I mention that I'm quite keen on the extreme perl thingamy?) From bazza at bazza.com Sat Nov 17 20:43:30 2001 From: bazza at bazza.com (barry) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: IPC? Message-ID: <20011118024330.A6030@bazza.com> okay, been playing around with Net::ICQ2000 today, playing around with something that'll let me gateway between email and sms (and vice versa) I have the process able to send sms etc, and get messages back via sms or icq, however to get mail coming into it, I need it to be able to get data from another process, I was ponding using a named pipe to just shove the stuff into from elsewhere, but then there's the problem of a while(1) to keep the icq client doing stuff, and having to read from something else too, should I be using select()? or is there some other fun way of making two things talk I should be trying to look into? if this doesn't make much sense, ignore it and I'll poke around elsewhere -- -Barry Hughes "World domination. Fast" (By Linus Torvalds) http://bazza.com/ From schwern at pobox.com Sat Nov 17 21:19:36 2001 From: schwern at pobox.com (Michael G Schwern) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: IPC? In-Reply-To: <20011118024330.A6030@bazza.com> References: <20011118024330.A6030@bazza.com> Message-ID: <20011117221936.F6730@blackrider> On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 02:43:30AM +0000, barry wrote: > okay, been playing around with Net::ICQ2000 today, playing around > with something that'll let me gateway between email and sms (and > vice versa) I have the process able to send sms etc, and get > messages back via sms or icq, however to get mail coming into it, I > need it to be able to get data from another process, I was ponding > using a named pipe to just shove the stuff into from elsewhere, but > then there's the problem of a while(1) to keep the icq client doing > stuff, and having to read from something else too, should I be using > select()? or is there some other fun way of making two things talk I > should be trying to look into? I'd suggest threads, but then I'd have to suggest you wait for 5.8 when they work. Basically, you need an event loop (aka cooperative multitasking) so you can keep the IRC client going while processing the email. Rather than kludging one together with while/select, there's a host of modules out there to do that. The best of breed being POE. It's vast size and scope, and somewhat odd terminology might be a little daunting, but it is the absolute last word in Perl event handling. -- Michael G. Schwern http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Perl Quality Assurance Kwalitee Is Job One From me at terrential.com Mon Nov 19 07:36:05 2001 From: me at terrential.com (Terrential) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: CGI Timeout Message-ID: <00d901c170ff$cee6fb20$0afea8c0@168.254.10.dsl.easynet.co.uk> Hello all. I'm new to the list and Perl, but i need some advice. is there a way that I can set the timeout length of a cgi in like 1 line of code? Its for use on UBB on a win2k iis server with perl5 installed. Terry. --- Terry@tek2.com http://new.media.by.tek2.com --- This email has been checked for Virii. The views expressed are not necessarily those of TEK2. From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Mon Nov 19 07:56:14 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: CGI Timeout In-Reply-To: <00d901c170ff$cee6fb20$0afea8c0@168.254.10.dsl.easynet.co.uk>; from Terrential on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:36:05PM -0000 References: <00d901c170ff$cee6fb20$0afea8c0@168.254.10.dsl.easynet.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011119135614.H32352@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:36:05PM -0000, Terrential wrote: > Hello all. > I'm new to the list and Perl, but i need some advice. > is there a way that I can set the timeout length of a cgi in like 1 line of > code? Not entirely sure what you mean here. Could it be a server setting? Is this one line of code doing something odd? Is it taking so long that you want to ignore the timeout-ing? Any more clues? m. -- So they went off together. But wherever they go, and whatever happens to them on the way, in that enchanted place on the top of the Forest a little boy and his Bear will always be playing. From steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk Mon Nov 19 07:59:53 2001 From: steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: CGI Timeout In-Reply-To: <20011119135614.H32352@tux.blackstar.co.uk>; from mwk@stray-toaster.co.uk on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:56:14PM +0000 References: <00d901c170ff$cee6fb20$0afea8c0@168.254.10.dsl.easynet.co.uk> <20011119135614.H32352@tux.blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011119135953.A3689@blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:56:14PM +0000, Stray Toaster wrote: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:36:05PM -0000, Terrential wrote: > > Hello all. > > I'm new to the list and Perl, but i need some advice. > > is there a way that I can set the timeout length of a cgi in like 1 line of > > code? > > Not entirely sure what you mean here. Could it be a server setting? Is > this one line of code doing something odd? Is it taking so long that you > want to ignore the timeout-ing? What Marc really meant to say was "Hello, welcome to the list"! It does sound like it's a server setting rather than a script one. If the script is timing out then you'll probably need to change the server settings, or, more likely, speed up the script. Before everyone else jumps in here, I'll recite the mantra, "use strict and turn warnings on"! Welcome by the way Steve -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk Space is cold, home is colder when you come home at night and there's nobody here. - The All Seeing I From marty at soto.kasei.com Mon Nov 19 08:30:49 2001 From: marty at soto.kasei.com (Marty Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: CGI Timeout In-Reply-To: <00d901c170ff$cee6fb20$0afea8c0@168.254.10.dsl.easynet.co.uk> References: <00d901c170ff$cee6fb20$0afea8c0@168.254.10.dsl.easynet.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011119143049.C6398@soto.kasei.com> Hello. On Mon Nov 19 13:36:05 2001, Terrential wrote: > I'm new to the list and Perl, but i need some advice. I'm sure there was something about snow I was supposed to say here... > is there a way that I can set the timeout length of a cgi in like 1 line of > code? Could you give an example of your current problem? Do you want the CGI to timeout after a short time? Or is it timing out and you don't want it to? > Its for use on UBB on a win2k iis server with perl5 installed. What's UBB? Sorry for questions without answers, but I don't want to suggest anything without knowing exactly what you need. Have fun! -- Marty -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Terry. --- Terry@tek2.com http://new.media.by.tek2.com --- This email has been checked for Virii. The views expressed are not necessarily those of TEK2. ----- Original Message ----- From: Stray Toaster To: Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 1:56 PM Subject: Re: CGI Timeout > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:36:05PM -0000, Terrential wrote: > > Hello all. > > I'm new to the list and Perl, but i need some advice. > > is there a way that I can set the timeout length of a cgi in like 1 line of > > code? > > Not entirely sure what you mean here. Could it be a server setting? Is > this one line of code doing something odd? Is it taking so long that you > want to ignore the timeout-ing? > > Any more clues? > > m. > > -- > So they went off together. But wherever > they go, and whatever happens to them on the way, > in that enchanted place on the top of the Forest > a little boy and his Bear will always be playing. > From me at terrential.com Mon Nov 19 09:00:49 2001 From: me at terrential.com (Terrential) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: CGI Timeout References: <00d901c170ff$cee6fb20$0afea8c0@168.254.10.dsl.easynet.co.uk> <20011119135614.H32352@tux.blackstar.co.uk> <20011119135953.A3689@blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <00ff01c1710b$00ee9820$0afea8c0@168.254.10.dsl.easynet.co.uk> ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Rushe To: Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 1:59 PM Subject: Re: CGI Timeout > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:56:14PM +0000, Stray Toaster wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:36:05PM -0000, Terrential wrote: > > > Hello all. > > > I'm new to the list and Perl, but i need some advice. > > > is there a way that I can set the timeout length of a cgi in like 1 line of > > > code? > > > > Not entirely sure what you mean here. Could it be a server setting? Is > > this one line of code doing something odd? Is it taking so long that you > > want to ignore the timeout-ing? > > What Marc really meant to say was "Hello, welcome to the list"! > > It does sound like it's a server setting rather than a script one. If > the script is timing out then you'll probably need to change the server > settings, or, more likely, speed up the script. Before everyone else > jumps in here, I'll recite the mantra, "use strict and turn warnings > on"! > Thanks for the welcome. y'see the problem with this script is that its UBB, and is a commercial grade product, and its in version 6, so speeding up the script isn't really an option, as then I'd void any support that Infopop would be able to give me. Anyone know how to set the timeout value of a script on iis 5 win2k active state perl5 without telnet?? Terrential. From me at terrential.com Mon Nov 19 09:06:23 2001 From: me at terrential.com (Terrential) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: CGI Timeout References: <00d901c170ff$cee6fb20$0afea8c0@168.254.10.dsl.easynet.co.uk> <20011119143049.C6398@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <011501c1710c$a2de2be0$0afea8c0@168.254.10.dsl.easynet.co.uk> right it seems that I may have caused a bit if confusion with my questions, I have this product called UBB, its a message board [commercial product http://www.infopop.com] for the email features it requires an smtp mail server to send mail, but anyone using fasthosts internet would know that they don't have outgoing mail servers, only incoming. so what I've had to do is set up a unix server that allows relays for this specific IP address. so now my UBB [on iis 5 win2k] can send emails courtesy of my unix server located elsewhere in the UK. problem is that it takes a while for the perl script process to connect to the unix server send the mails and then get back.. thats what causes the timeout. I want to stop the server from timing out. any ideas?? Sorry for the repetition... Terry. --- Terry@tek2.com http://new.media.by.tek2.com --- This email has been checked for Virii. The views expressed are not necessarily those of TEK2. ----- Original Message ----- From: Marty Pauley To: Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 2:30 PM Subject: Re: CGI Timeout From schwern at pobox.com Mon Nov 19 14:56:56 2001 From: schwern at pobox.com (Michael G Schwern) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: CGI Timeout In-Reply-To: <011501c1710c$a2de2be0$0afea8c0@168.254.10.dsl.easynet.co.uk> References: <00d901c170ff$cee6fb20$0afea8c0@168.254.10.dsl.easynet.co.uk> <20011119143049.C6398@soto.kasei.com> <011501c1710c$a2de2be0$0afea8c0@168.254.10.dsl.easynet.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011119155656.E11403@blackrider> On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:06:23PM -0000, Terrential wrote: > right it seems that I may have caused a bit if confusion with my questions, > I have this product called UBB, its a message board [commercial product > http://www.infopop.com] Ultimate Bulletin Board *shudder*. Fear and loathing bubbles to the top of my throat. This is a rather horrid product. [1] But from the description of your setup that sounds like only the beginning of your troubles. > so what I've had to do is set up a unix server that allows relays for > this specific IP address. so now my UBB [on iis 5 win2k] can send > emails courtesy of my unix server located elsewhere in the UK. > problem is that it takes a while for the perl script process to > connect to the unix server send the mails and then get back.. thats > what causes the timeout. I want to stop the server from timing out. > any ideas?? Buh. Well, I'd say speed up the connect time to that Unix mail server. Or even better, junk this Rube-Goldberg setup and run the whole thing on on one machine, web server and all. Otherwise, if UBB is going to be doing a lot of this mailing, keep the SMTP connection open between mails so you don't have to keep reconnecting. But that sounds like it would require fiddling with the guts of UBB which voids your support contract. Hold on, support contract?! Why not call InfoPop? [1] I'm American, I don't have to be polite. It's in the Constitution somewhere. -- Michael G. Schwern http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Perl Quality Assurance Kwalitee Is Job One My breasts are arousing weapons. From andrew at mcfarland.co.uk Mon Nov 19 17:51:46 2001 From: andrew at mcfarland.co.uk (Andrew McFarland) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: SGML::DTD Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011119233038.009eaa10@pop.ntlworld.com> I'm using perlSGML to parse DTDs. [1] I'm having a couple of problems. When I run this script it prints out a list of all the elements defined in strict.dtd, which is a copy of the XHTML 1.0 strict DTD (but using the HTML 4.0 Loose DTD causes the same problem). #! /usr/bin/perl use SGML::DTD; open(FHANDLE, 'strict.dtd'); $dtd = new SGML::DTD; $dtd->read_dtd(\*FHANDLE); @elements = $dtd->get_elements(0); foreach (@elements) {print "$_\n"}; However, it gives the warnings: SGML::EntMan:Unable to open "-//W3C//ENTITIES Latin1//EN//HTML" => "" SGML::EntMan:Unable to open "-//W3C//ENTITIES Symbols//EN//HTML" => "" SGML::EntMan:Unable to open "-//W3C//ENTITIES Special//EN//HTML" => "" Are these serious problems, and how do I fix them? The second problem is rather more serious. I want this script to print a list of all the attributes of the STYLE element: #! /usr/bin/perl use strict; use warnings; use SGML::DTD; open(DTD, 'strict.dtd'); my $dtd = new SGML::DTD; $dtd->read_dtd(\*DTD); my $elem = "style"; # %attributes has attribute names as keys # and an array of attribute values as values. my %attributes = $dtd->get_elem_attr($elem); foreach (keys(%attributes)) { print "$_,"; foreach ($attributes{$_}) {print "$_"}; print "\n"; }; It actually prints dir,ARRAY(0x8286e40) xml:space,ARRAY(0x82875e4) title,ARRAY(0x82875b4) lang,ARRAY(0x8286d80) xml:lang,ARRAY(0x8286e10) media,ARRAY(0x8286eac) type,ARRAY(0x8286e88) What should I do to fix this? I've tried various combinations of things, and I either get ARRAY(0x8286e40) or an empty string. It's too late to do any more at the moment :) Andrew [1] The ultimate plan is to use it in conjunction with Template Toolkit to produce reference material on the tags and attributes in the various flavors of (X)HTML I use. dtd2html isn't _quite_ what I need. -- AA McFarland http://www.mcfarland.co.uk/andrew/ The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not be in want Psalm 23:1 From steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk Tue Nov 20 04:26:39 2001 From: steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: SGML::DTD In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20011119233038.009eaa10@pop.ntlworld.com>; from andrew@mcfarland.co.uk on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 11:51:46PM +0000 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011119233038.009eaa10@pop.ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <20011120102639.A1166@blackstar.co.uk> On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 11:51:46PM +0000, Andrew McFarland wrote: > > However, it gives the warnings: > > SGML::EntMan:Unable to open "-//W3C//ENTITIES Latin1//EN//HTML" => "" > SGML::EntMan:Unable to open "-//W3C//ENTITIES Symbols//EN//HTML" => "" > SGML::EntMan:Unable to open "-//W3C//ENTITIES Special//EN//HTML" => "" > > Are these serious problems, and how do I fix them? Don't know... The docs do say there may be trouble using the default rules of SGML::EntMan when calling SGML::DTD. So I'd guess that you need to construct your own EntMan object and pass that to the DTD object. > The second problem is rather more serious. > > What should I do to fix this? I've tried various combinations of > things, > and I either get ARRAY(0x8286e40) or an empty string. It's too late to > do > any more at the moment :) Well the ARRAY(0x8286e40) thing means that it's an array reference. Dereference is and bob's your uncle. So when you foreach over $attributes{$_} check to see if $_ is an array ref, the 'ref' call is your friend. If it is then deference it and iterate over it. At this point it is traditional to mention 'use strict' and warnings. You use them in the first, but not the second script; what's that all about then Ted? Also better to check when you open the file if it has succeeded. There ends the sermon :) Steve -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk Space is cold, home is colder when you come home at night and there's nobody here. - The All Seeing I From tony at kasei.com Tue Nov 20 05:42:58 2001 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: SGML::DTD In-Reply-To: <20011120102639.A1166@blackstar.co.uk> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011119233038.009eaa10@pop.ntlworld.com> <20011120102639.A1166@blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011120114258.A16268@soto.kasei.com> On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 10:26:39AM +0000, Steve Rushe wrote: > At this point it is traditional to mention 'use strict' and warnings. > You use them in the first, but not the second script; what's that all > about then Ted? You forgot: "and always check the return value from open": open(FHANDLE, 'strict.dtd'); Tony From steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk Tue Nov 20 05:55:32 2001 From: steve-pmbelfast at blackstar.co.uk (Steve Rushe) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: SGML::DTD In-Reply-To: <20011120114258.A16268@soto.kasei.com>; from tony@kasei.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 11:42:58AM +0000 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011119233038.009eaa10@pop.ntlworld.com> <20011120102639.A1166@blackstar.co.uk> <20011120114258.A16268@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011120115532.A14115@blackstar.co.uk> On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 11:42:58AM +0000, Tony Bowden wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 10:26:39AM +0000, Steve Rushe wrote: > > At this point it is traditional to mention 'use strict' and warnings. > > You use them in the first, but not the second script; what's that all > > about then Ted? > > You forgot: "and always check the return value from open": > open(FHANDLE, 'strict.dtd'); Doh. I thought I'd put that in. I was going to honest, guv... Steve -- Steve Rushe - www.deeden.co.uk Eeek, out of cheese error. From tony at kasei.com Tue Nov 20 06:10:06 2001 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: SGML::DTD In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20011119233038.009eaa10@pop.ntlworld.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011119233038.009eaa10@pop.ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <20011120121006.A16719@soto.kasei.com> On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 11:51:46PM +0000, Andrew McFarland wrote: > foreach ($attributes{$_}) {print "$_"}; You almost certainly never want to print "$_" either, unless you're absolutely sure you're trying to stringify. You probably just want: print $_; Which is equivalent to: print; Which means you'd want: print foreach $attributes{$_}; Not that that will work in this case either, if you've references there, but it's a better plan in general. Of course, if you're just trying to see what's there first in a case like this for debugging, use Data::Dumper or Data::Denter rather than rolling your own loop and print .... Tony From stevefoy at ntlworld.com Tue Nov 20 18:36:37 2001 From: stevefoy at ntlworld.com (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Class::DBI[::mysql] Message-ID: <000901c17224$94d41280$6501a8c0@steve> Hi, I'm wondering if there is a way to get some sort of list of all the tables in the currently 'set_up' database. Thanks, Steve From steve at unite.net Tue Nov 20 18:40:21 2001 From: steve at unite.net (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Class::DBI[::mysql] References: <000901c17224$94d41280$6501a8c0@steve> Message-ID: <000f01c17225$19d91ca0$6501a8c0@steve> > I'm wondering if there is a way to get some sort of list of all the tables > in the currently 'set_up' database. Sorry, what I mean to say was "Is there a way of getting some sort of list of all the tables in the currently 'set_up' database in Perl using Class::DBI?" Just to avoid the sacrastic comments like "That's great Steve, but what's your question?" Steve I From schwern at pobox.com Tue Nov 20 18:46:00 2001 From: schwern at pobox.com (Michael G Schwern) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Class::DBI[::mysql] In-Reply-To: <000f01c17225$19d91ca0$6501a8c0@steve> References: <000901c17224$94d41280$6501a8c0@steve> <000f01c17225$19d91ca0$6501a8c0@steve> Message-ID: <20011120194600.C12711@blackrider> On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 12:40:21AM -0000, Steve Foy wrote: > > I'm wondering if there is a way to get some sort of list of all the tables > > in the currently 'set_up' database. > > Sorry, what I mean to say was "Is there a way of getting some sort of list > of all the tables in the currently 'set_up' database in Perl using > Class::DBI?" > Just to avoid the sacrastic comments like "That's great Steve, but what's > your question?" Just use the DBI table_info() or tables() methods. print My::Class->db_Main->tables; -- Michael G. Schwern http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Perl Quality Assurance Kwalitee Is Job One my mother once said "never eat paste my darling" would that I heeded -- stimps From tony at kasei.com Fri Nov 23 10:18:04 2001 From: tony at kasei.com (Tony Bowden) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: [JOB AD] Kasei: Perl Programmer Message-ID: <20011123161804.A11573@soto.kasei.com> Neither list seems to have any policy on job ads, so: Kasei would like to hire a Perl Programmer to work both on client sites, and on relaunching The Music Database (and other future plans for world domination). Strong OO skills are required, along with experience of databases (preferably MySQL), database abstraction layers (preferably Class::DBI) and templating systems (preferably Template Toolkit). Exposure to XP principles, particularly pair programming and test-first development a plus. If this should be you, then send a CV to jobs@kasei.com Tony From stevefoy at ntlworld.com Sat Nov 24 07:51:38 2001 From: stevefoy at ntlworld.com (Steve Foy) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Comparing dates Message-ID: <000b01c174ef$23ce1a40$6501a8c0@steve> Hello, I'm looking for a module or some help on how to compare dates, and working out if one is "after" the other. Basically, I'll have 2 dates, and If one is after "today's" date, it will tell me. Is there a module that will do this? of can anyone show me a piece of code that will do it? Thanks, Steve From wesley at yelsew.com Sat Nov 24 07:55:35 2001 From: wesley at yelsew.com (Wesley Darlington) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Comparing dates In-Reply-To: <000b01c174ef$23ce1a40$6501a8c0@steve>; from stevefoy@ntlworld.com on Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 01:51:38PM -0000 References: <000b01c174ef$23ce1a40$6501a8c0@steve> Message-ID: <20011124085534.A1619@paat.pair.com> On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 01:51:38PM -0000, Steve Foy wrote: > I'm looking for a module or some help on how to compare dates, and working > out if one is "after" the other. Basically, I'll have 2 dates, and If one is > after "today's" date, it will tell me. Is there a module that will do this? > of can anyone show me a piece of code that will do it? Sounds like the awesome Date::Simple is what you're after...? Wesley. From mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk Sat Nov 24 08:25:40 2001 From: mwk at stray-toaster.co.uk (Stray Toaster) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Comparing dates In-Reply-To: <20011124085534.A1619@paat.pair.com>; from Wesley Darlington on Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 08:55:35AM -0500 References: <000b01c174ef$23ce1a40$6501a8c0@steve> <20011124085534.A1619@paat.pair.com> Message-ID: <20011124142540.A3966@tux.blackstar.co.uk> On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 08:55:35AM -0500, Wesley Darlington wrote: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 01:51:38PM -0000, Steve Foy wrote: > > I'm looking for a module or some help on how to compare dates, and working > > out if one is "after" the other. Basically, I'll have 2 dates, and If one is > > after "today's" date, it will tell me. Is there a module that will do this? > > of can anyone show me a piece of code that will do it? > > Sounds like the awesome Date::Simple is what you're after...? > As per usual, Wes is right! Tho if it is simplistic comparisions, and the dates are in yyyy-mm-dd just sub out the dashes and do a numeric comparision. tho Date::Simple is useful for tons of things... m. -- So they went off together. But wherever they go, and whatever happens to them on the way, in that enchanted place on the top of the Forest a little boy and his Bear will always be playing. From duggie-belfast-pm at blackstar.co.uk Sat Nov 24 08:03:27 2001 From: duggie-belfast-pm at blackstar.co.uk (duggie-belfast-pm@blackstar.co.uk) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Comparing dates In-Reply-To: <000b01c174ef$23ce1a40$6501a8c0@steve>; from stevefoy@ntlworld.com on Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 01:51:38PM -0000 References: <000b01c174ef$23ce1a40$6501a8c0@steve> Message-ID: <20011124140327.A28250@blackstar.co.uk> On (24/11/01 13:51), Steve Foy wrote: > Hello, > > I'm looking for a module or some help on how to compare dates, and working > out if one is "after" the other. Basically, I'll have 2 dates, and If one is > after "today's" date, it will tell me. Is there a module that will do this? > of can anyone show me a piece of code that will do it? > > Thanks, > Steve > CPAN. Date::Simple. "Probably the most useful non-standard Perl Module out there" as I once heard someone describe it. Duggie From karen at kasei.com Sat Nov 24 10:46:08 2001 From: karen at kasei.com (Karen Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Damian Conway visit next February In-Reply-To: <20011116152322.A18792@soto.kasei.com> References: <20011116152322.A18792@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011124164608.C16576@soto.kasei.com> Could anyone who hasn't voted on what they would like to hear Damian speak on please do so, by replying to me or the list before 5pm on Monday, as I need to get back to Damian. Many thanks, -- Karen On Fri Nov 16 15:23:22 2001, Karen Pauley wrote: > Damian would like to know what he will be speaking to > the Perl Mongers about when he visits in February. > > For his visit I am planning on organising two Perl > Monger's meetings in the first week of February and > maybe even an evening social event. > > I would like Damian to give his Extreme Perl talk > (see http://www.yetanother.org/damian/events/Extreme.html) > and his Life, The Universe, and Everything talk (see > http://www.yetanother.org/damian/events/Life.html). I have > heard the second one and it is amazing. > > These are only suggestions - is there anything else that other > people would prefer? e.g. Quantum::Superpositions, Perl 6 > > Thanks, > > -- > Karen From karen at kasei.com Sat Nov 24 10:57:34 2001 From: karen at kasei.com (Karen Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Christmas Dinner Message-ID: <20011124165734.D16576@soto.kasei.com> Could anyone who plans on going to the Ginger Tree on Monday 10th December @ 7pm for please let me know by noon next Wednesday. I think we decided at the last meeting that people could bring their partner with them if they wanted to. Thanks, -- Karen From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org Sat Nov 24 11:13:48 2001 From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Damian Conway visit next February In-Reply-To: <20011116152322.A18792@soto.kasei.com> References: <20011116152322.A18792@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011124171348.B18224@futureless.org> On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 03:23:22PM +0000, Karen Pauley wrote: > Life, The Universe, and Everything talk (see > http://www.yetanother.org/damian/events/Life.html). I've heard nothing but good things about this, so I'll have to vote for it. I know I wanted an OO talk before, but this sounds much more exciting. -- Russell Matbouli | There is eloquence in screaming russell@futureless.org | -- Patrick Jones PGP KeyID: 0x3CA84CF4 | -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I will see if I can organise a discount for members of Belfast.pm There will be a discount for students. -- Karen From karen at kasei.com Wed Nov 28 06:34:14 2001 From: karen at kasei.com (Karen Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Christmas Dinner... (again) Message-ID: <20011128123414.C14711@soto.kasei.com> Is there anyone else out there who would like to go to the Ginger Tree on Monday 10th Dec? The price for Christmas Dinner at the Ginger Tree is 19.95 per person - 60p extra for fried rice. It is a five course meal. I do have a copy of the menu if anyone is really keen to know what food they are serving. So far, there are 9 people going. -- Karen From schwern at pobox.com Wed Nov 28 14:58:26 2001 From: schwern at pobox.com (Michael G Schwern) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Christmas Dinner... (again) In-Reply-To: <20011128123414.C14711@soto.kasei.com> References: <20011128123414.C14711@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011128155826.C676@blackrider> On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 12:34:14PM +0000, Karen Pauley wrote: > Is there anyone else out there who would like to go to the Ginger Tree > on Monday 10th Dec? > > The price for Christmas Dinner at the Ginger Tree is 19.95 per person - > 60p extra for fried rice. I'd like to go! Does that price include airfare? -- Michael G. Schwern http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/ Perl Quality Assurance Kwalitee Is Job One "Let's face it," said bearded Rusty Simmons, opening a can after the race. "This is a good excuse to drink some beer." At 10:30 in the morning? "Well, it's past noon in Dublin," said teammate Mike [Joseph] Schwern. "It's our duty." -- "Sure, and It's a Great Day for Irish Runners" Newsday, Sunday, March 20, 1988 From perl.belfast at kasei.com Thu Nov 29 07:28:44 2001 From: perl.belfast at kasei.com (Marty Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Christmas Dinner... (again) In-Reply-To: <20011128123414.C14711@soto.kasei.com> References: <20011128123414.C14711@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011129132844.D24582@soto.kasei.com> On Wed Nov 28 12:34:14 2001, Karen Pauley wrote: > Is there anyone else out there who would like to go to the Ginger Tree > on Monday 10th Dec? > > The price for Christmas Dinner at the Ginger Tree is 19.95 per person - > 60p extra for fried rice. It is a five course meal. I do have a copy > of the menu if anyone is really keen to know what food they are serving. FYI, Christmas menu at the Ginger Tree: 1. tsukedashi: appetiser. 2. kake soba: buckwheat noodles in dashi with scallions and seaweed. 3. Choose a starter from: a. tempura: deep fried prawns and vegetables in a light batter. b. yakitori: grilled skewer of chicken and onion. c. tatsutaage: marinated breast of chicken deep fried in batter. d. ebi fri: deep fried prawns in breadcrumbs with vegetable fruity sauce. e. kabayaki: grilled eel with kabayaki sauce. f. zaru soba: cold buckwheat noodles with wasabi and dipping sauce. g. haru maki: spring rolls. h. sushi (ebi no nigiri): prawn nigiri with pickled ginger. i. gyoza: minced beef and veg in filo pastry with a dipping sauce. 4. Choose from main course: a. beef teriyaki: thin slices of beef on sizzling dish with vegetables and teriyaki sauce. b. buta yakinikufu: c. chicken teriyaki: $a =~ s/beef/chicken/g; d. tori karaage: pieces of chicken in sweet and sour sauce e. tempura: more deep fried prawns and vegetables in a light batter. f. una jyu: grilled eel on rice, traditional style. g. katsu don: h. tempura udon or soba: noodles (either udon or soba) with tempura on top. i. kare: curry, with pork or chicken or prawn katsu j. katsu yaki soba: ton katsu with egg noodles and tonkatsu sauce. k. gyu don: sliced beef and Chinese cabbage cooked with beaten egg, oriental noodles over a large bowl of boiled rice. 5. More stuff. -- Marty -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Yes, if it doesn't include the decimal point. -- Marty -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 220 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/archives/belfast-pm/attachments/20011129/887a3600/attachment.bin From karen at kasei.com Thu Nov 29 07:32:21 2001 From: karen at kasei.com (Karen Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Christmas Dinner... (again) In-Reply-To: <20011129132844.D24582@soto.kasei.com> References: <20011128123414.C14711@soto.kasei.com> <20011129132844.D24582@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011129133221.C24650@soto.kasei.com> Hi Marty, Am I correct in thinking that anyone who is vegetarian can have a vegetarian version of any of the main courses or starters? -- Karen From duggie-belfast-pm at blackstar.co.uk Thu Nov 29 07:57:04 2001 From: duggie-belfast-pm at blackstar.co.uk (duggie-belfast-pm@blackstar.co.uk) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Christmas Dinner... (again) In-Reply-To: <20011129132844.D24582@soto.kasei.com>; from perl.belfast@kasei.com on Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 01:28:44PM +0000 References: <20011128123414.C14711@soto.kasei.com> <20011129132844.D24582@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011129135704.A13007@blackstar.co.uk> On (29/11/01 13:28), Marty Pauley wrote: > FYI, Christmas menu at the Ginger Tree: This looks lovely, I think I'd like to go. Yes, definitely. Can I go?[0] Thanks Duggie [0] Actually, I thought I was going until a strategically posed question by Andrew Feckin Wilson proved otherwise. From karen at kasei.com Thu Nov 29 09:02:25 2001 From: karen at kasei.com (Karen Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Christmas Dinner... (again) In-Reply-To: <20011129135704.A13007@blackstar.co.uk> References: <20011128123414.C14711@soto.kasei.com> <20011129132844.D24582@soto.kasei.com> <20011129135704.A13007@blackstar.co.uk> Message-ID: <20011129150225.F24650@soto.kasei.com> On Thu Nov 29 13:57:04 2001, duggie-belfast-pm@blackstar.co.uk wrote: > On (29/11/01 13:28), Marty Pauley wrote: > > FYI, Christmas menu at the Ginger Tree: > > > > This looks lovely, I think I'd like to go. Yes, definitely. > Can I go?[0] Yes, off course you can go :) The people whose names I have are: Russell + Leah Tony Marty Karen Liyang Marc Steve (Rushe) Andrew Duggie If anyone else wants to go please let me know. I have heard a rumour that someone (who is not on the above list) posted to the BLUG list saying that they were going to the Belfast.pm dinner. If that is true would that person please post to this list. I am not a member of BLUG. Thanks, -- Karen From karen at kasei.com Thu Nov 29 09:20:24 2001 From: karen at kasei.com (Karen Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:18 2004 Subject: Christmas Dinner... (again) In-Reply-To: <20011129150225.F24650@soto.kasei.com> References: <20011128123414.C14711@soto.kasei.com> <20011129132844.D24582@soto.kasei.com> <20011129135704.A13007@blackstar.co.uk> <20011129150225.F24650@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011129152024.H24650@soto.kasei.com> On Thu Nov 29 15:02:25 2001, Karen Pauley wrote: > On Thu Nov 29 13:57:04 2001, duggie-belfast-pm@blackstar.co.uk wrote: > > On (29/11/01 13:28), Marty Pauley wrote: > > > FYI, Christmas menu at the Ginger Tree: > > > > > > > > This looks lovely, I think I'd like to go. Yes, definitely. > > Can I go?[0] > > Yes, off course you can go :) > > The people whose names I have are: > > Russell + Leah > Tony > Marty > Karen > Liyang > Marc > Steve (Rushe) > Andrew > Duggie > > If anyone else wants to go please let me know. I've been speaking to Mr Wilson and he pointed out to me all the earlier messages about the Christmas dinner. I had only added people to my list who had confirmed that they were going in my second wave of messages - sorry. This means that it is possible that Scott and Barry's names should also be on this list? Are you planning on going? -- Karen - who just loves organising things ;) From perl.belfast at kasei.com Thu Nov 29 10:45:47 2001 From: perl.belfast at kasei.com (Marty Pauley) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:19 2004 Subject: Christmas Dinner... (again) In-Reply-To: <20011129133221.C24650@soto.kasei.com> References: <20011128123414.C14711@soto.kasei.com> <20011129132844.D24582@soto.kasei.com> <20011129133221.C24650@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011129164547.A27758@soto.kasei.com> On Thu Nov 29 13:32:21 2001, Karen Pauley wrote: > Hi Marty, > > Am I correct in thinking that anyone who is vegetarian can have a > vegetarian version of any of the main courses or starters? Yes, there are many ways to get vegitarian variations, and the chef is working on a more well defined vegitarian menu. 1. The tsukedashi is usually some green bean thing with a sauce. The sauce may contain a little bit of fish stock (but no fish). You could get it without the sauce if you want. 2. 'dashi' is a stock made with kelp and bonito flakes: kelp is a seaweed (so vegi-safe) but bonito is a fish. The kelp and bonito are filtered from the dashi before it is used. 3a. tempura can be supplied without prawns, although the usual plan in group meals is to order the standard tempura, give the prawns to Karen, and take her veg since she really only wants the prawns :-) 3b. yakitori could be made without the tori, if you specified a vegitable replacement component. 3f. vegi-safe 3g. vegi-safe 3h. with some advance notice you could have vegi no nigiri :-) 4x you could have vegi teriyaki 4e. swap the prawns with Karen again. 4h. vegi-safe 4i. don't get the katsu There will also be miso soup (not mentioned on the menu), which contains dashi but otherwise is usually vegi-safe. For Russell I would recommend the age dofu (again, not on the menu, but I am going to get it) as a starter: it is deep fried tofu; you can get it without the sprinkled bonito flakes. The chef is always helpful, and will make you something special if you can't find anything suitable on the menu. 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(again) In-Reply-To: <20011129152024.H24650@soto.kasei.com> References: <20011128123414.C14711@soto.kasei.com> <20011129132844.D24582@soto.kasei.com> <20011129135704.A13007@blackstar.co.uk> <20011129150225.F24650@soto.kasei.com> <20011129152024.H24650@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011129165543.A17653@bazza.com> On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 03:20:24PM +0000, Karen Pauley mumbled: > > The people whose names I have are: > > Russell + Leah > > Tony > > Marty > > Karen > > Liyang > > Marc > > Steve (Rushe) > > Andrew > > Duggie > > If anyone else wants to go please let me know. > I've been speaking to Mr Wilson and he pointed out to me all the earlier > messages about the Christmas dinner. I had only added people to my list > who had confirmed that they were going in my second wave of messages - > sorry. This means that it is possible that Scott and Barry's names > should also be on this list? Are you planning on going? Uh, I guess it's getting close so I should make a decision on whether I want to or not :) seeing as I've no idea, where *is* the Ginger Tree anyway? I hadn't even heard of it til it was brought up in relation to this, and what was the date again? I got the £19.95 per person thingie, including plane tickets for £1995, and the menu (that I don't have much of an idea about, will probably just go "Oooh, that looks good, gimme some of that") > Karen - who just loves organising things ;) would never have noticed this .. honest -- -Barry Hughes "But you should keep in mind that we don't do windows" -- John Campbell, Hubble Program manager on using computers with 2 megabytes of memory on the telescope http://bazza.com/ From russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org Thu Nov 29 13:44:13 2001 From: russell-belfast-pm at futureless.org (Russell Matbouli) Date: Tue Aug 3 23:54:19 2004 Subject: Christmas Dinner... (again) In-Reply-To: <20011129164547.A27758@soto.kasei.com> References: <20011128123414.C14711@soto.kasei.com> <20011129132844.D24582@soto.kasei.com> <20011129133221.C24650@soto.kasei.com> <20011129164547.A27758@soto.kasei.com> Message-ID: <20011129194413.G30982@futureless.org> On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 04:45:47PM +0000, Marty Pauley wrote: > Yes, there are many ways to get vegitarian variations, and the chef is > working on a more well defined vegitarian menu. Thanks for the info. Now I will be able to make an informed decision about what I'm going to eat and not just hope for the best :) > For Russell I would recommend the age dofu (again, not on the menu, but > I am going to get it) as a starter: it is deep fried tofu; you can get > it without the sprinkled bonito flakes. Ooh, sounds good. I take it you liked the tau fu at the chinese restaurant then =) Hey, what an apt random signature =) -- Russell Matbouli | SOY! SOY! SOY! 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