From jns at gellyfish.com Sun Oct 1 05:23:22 2000 From: jns at gellyfish.com (Jonathan Stowe) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: Grep here yet? In-Reply-To: <20000930142051.A710@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * Jonathan Stowe (jns@gellyfish.com) wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Mark Fowler wrote: > > > > > > So has Grep arrived yet? > > > > > > > Not that I can tell. > > > > > > Hey, is *anyone* here? > > > > I'm here - isn't that enough .... > > > > nope Whaddya mean punk .... ;-} /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one http://www.tackleway.co.uk | From jns at gellyfish.com Sun Oct 1 05:29:08 2000 From: jns at gellyfish.com (Jonathan Stowe) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: Grep here yet? In-Reply-To: <20000930142126.B710@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > grep is now in london (temporarily) > > > > > grep is still in wgc > > > > * Neil Ford (neil@ourshack.com) wrote: > > > So has Grep arrived yet? > > > Another procmail rule I think ;-} /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one http://www.tackleway.co.uk | From greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk Sun Oct 1 06:02:57 2000 From: greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk (Greg McCarroll) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: Grep here yet? In-Reply-To: ; from jns@gellyfish.com on Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 11:23:22AM +0100 References: <20000930142051.A710@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20001001120257.A4806@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> * Jonathan Stowe (jns@gellyfish.com) wrote: > On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > * Jonathan Stowe (jns@gellyfish.com) wrote: > > > On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Mark Fowler wrote: > > > > > > > > So has Grep arrived yet? > > > > > > > > > Not that I can tell. > > > > > > > > Hey, is *anyone* here? > > > > > > I'm here - isn't that enough .... > > > > > > > nope > > Whaddya mean punk .... ;-} > you are not the very model of modern mailing list kook -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net perl hacker | book collector | the very model of a modern mailing list kook London.pm - meetings held on the day after the first wednesday of the month From greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk Sun Oct 1 06:09:46 2000 From: greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk (Greg McCarroll) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: Grep here yet? In-Reply-To: ; from jns@gellyfish.com on Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 11:29:08AM +0100 References: <20000930142126.B710@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20001001120946.A4832@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> * Jonathan Stowe (jns@gellyfish.com) wrote: > On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > > > grep is now in london (temporarily) > > > > > > > > grep is still in wgc > > > > > > * Neil Ford (neil@ourshack.com) wrote: > > > > So has Grep arrived yet? > > > > > > Another procmail rule I think ;-} > actually this is a good list to discuss our break away movement from london.pm that will be demanding meetings to be held on the day after the first wednesday of the month - this very definition of the date reflects exactly why i hate the 1/mm/yyyy meetings for london.pm - there is no warning! how do people expect us to realise it is a new month in just a matter of hours notice now i know some of the more commericial members of london.pm that work for banks and concern themselves with timesheets will be aware of the date, however i say to you brothers and sisters, shall we run our lives by a calendar? or shall we run them as our ancestors did, free and naked running alongside the fast river carrying us to the next meeting, rise up now and free the meeting! you'll be free hacker you'll be free! come on, you know buffy would want you to! Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net perl hacker | book collector | the very model of a modern mailing list kook London.pm - meetings held on the day after the first wednesday of the month From jns at gellyfish.com Sun Oct 1 06:34:19 2000 From: jns at gellyfish.com (Jonathan Stowe) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: Grep here yet? In-Reply-To: <20001001120257.A4806@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Sun, 1 Oct 2000, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * Jonathan Stowe (jns@gellyfish.com) wrote: > > On Sat, 30 Sep 2000, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > > > * Jonathan Stowe (jns@gellyfish.com) wrote: > > > > On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Mark Fowler wrote: > > > > > > > > > > So has Grep arrived yet? > > > > > > > > > > > Not that I can tell. > > > > > > > > > > Hey, is *anyone* here? > > > > > > > > I'm here - isn't that enough .... > > > > > > > > > > nope > > > > Whaddya mean punk .... ;-} > > > > you are not the very model of modern mailing list kook > I reserve my kookiness for other places. Anyhow how come your were only on #london.pm for a few seconds this morning ? And from a freeserver account ;-} /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one http://www.tackleway.co.uk | From greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk Sun Oct 1 09:37:40 2000 From: greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk (Greg McCarroll) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: Grep here yet? In-Reply-To: ; from jns@gellyfish.com on Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 12:34:19PM +0100 References: <20001001120257.A4806@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20001001153740.B5273@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> * Jonathan Stowe (jns@gellyfish.com) wrote: > > > > you are not the very model of modern mailing list kook > > > > I reserve my kookiness for other places. Anyhow how come your were only > on #london.pm for a few seconds this morning ? And from a freeserver > account ;-} > my home computer that does dialup and routing has several accounts to choose from, it just sorts all the connection bits out for me, ask it not me why it used freeserve as for leaving it was to go out and buy a copy of baldurs gate 2 and have some noodles Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net perl hacker | book collector | the very model of a modern mailing list kook London.pm - meetings held on the day after the first wednesday of the month From mark at profero.com Sun Oct 1 10:14:05 2000 From: mark at profero.com (Mark Fowler) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: things In-Reply-To: <20000929155509.D735@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: > * Greg McCarroll (greg@mccarroll.demon.co.uk) wrote: > > > > Does anyone know if BtVS ever appears in a bath in any episode? > > > > Cruel Intentions does not count! > I don't know about an episode in *a* bath but she has definatly apeared in Bath before (over new years last year IIRC - Anthony Stewart Head lives here) Mark. -- print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_>6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} ( Name => 'Mark Fowler', Title => 'Technology Developer' , Firm => 'Profero Ltd', Web => 'http://www.profero.com/' , Email => 'mark@profero.com', Phone => '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' ) From mark at profero.com Sun Oct 1 10:16:45 2000 From: mark at profero.com (Mark Fowler) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: Grep here yet? In-Reply-To: <20001001120946.A4832@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: > actually this is a good list to discuss our break away movement from > london.pm that will be demanding meetings to be held on the day > after the first wednesday of the month - this very definition of the > date reflects exactly why i hate the 1/mm/yyyy meetings for london.pm Stop! This is defiantly *not* a Bath.pm issue. Go discuss that the Londom.pm list. Later. Mark. (who agrees with you on this one, but demands a 100% concensus before any changes are made) -- print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_>6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} ( Name => 'Mark Fowler', Title => 'Technology Developer' , Firm => 'Profero Ltd', Web => 'http://www.profero.com/' , Email => 'mark@profero.com', Phone => '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' ) From dave at dave.org.uk Sun Oct 1 13:07:37 2000 From: dave at dave.org.uk (Dave Cross) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: Grep here yet? In-Reply-To: References: <20001001120946.A4832@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20001001190618.02338040@pop.dave.org.uk> At 16:16 01/10/00, Mark Fowler wrote: > > actually this is a good list to discuss our break away movement from > > london.pm that will be demanding meetings to be held on the day > > after the first wednesday of the month - this very definition of the > > date reflects exactly why i hate the 1/mm/yyyy meetings for london.pm > >Stop! This is defiantly *not* a Bath.pm issue. Go discuss that the >Londom.pm list. > >Later. > >Mark. > >(who agrees with you on this one, but demands a 100% concensus before any >changes are made) That will _never_ happen! Dave... p.s. Mark, I think I've got a solution to your Sub::Approx::Subclass problems. Haven't had time to investigate it this weekend, but I'll try it out tomorrow and get back to you. -- SMS: sms@dave.org.uk "The blackness would hit me and the (void) would be calling..." From jns at gellyfish.com Sun Oct 1 14:23:24 2000 From: jns at gellyfish.com (Jonathan Stowe) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: Grep here yet? In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20001001190618.02338040@pop.dave.org.uk> Message-ID: On Sun, 1 Oct 2000, Dave Cross wrote: > > p.s. Mark, I think I've got a solution to your Sub::Approx::Subclass > problems. Haven't had time to investigate it this weekend, but I'll try it > out tomorrow and get back to you. > Dave, I never got around to making your list but I will do at some juncture ... /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one http://www.tackleway.co.uk | From acme at astray.com Sun Oct 1 14:07:54 2000 From: acme at astray.com (Leon Brocard) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: Grep here yet? In-Reply-To: ; from jns@gellyfish.com on Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 08:23:24PM +0100 References: <5.0.0.25.2.20001001190618.02338040@pop.dave.org.uk> Message-ID: <20001001200754.A4934@ns0.astray.com> Jonathan Stowe sent the following bits through the ether: > Dave, I never got around to making your list but I will do at some > juncture ... Want a list on astray.com? Or perhaps it's time for subapprox.org? ;-) Leon -- Leon Brocard.............................http://www.astray.com/ yapc::Europe............................http://yapc.org/Europe/ ... Where has all that spare time just come from? ;-) From dave at dave.org.uk Mon Oct 2 01:51:30 2000 From: dave at dave.org.uk (dave) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: Grep here yet? In-Reply-To: <20001001200754.A4934@ns0.astray.com>; from acme@astray.com on Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 08:07:54PM +0100 References: <5.0.0.25.2.20001001190618.02338040@pop.dave.org.uk> <20001001200754.A4934@ns0.astray.com> Message-ID: <20001002075130.A1113@mag-sol.demon.co.uk> On Sun, Oct 01, 2000 at 08:07:54PM +0100, Leon Brocard (acme@astray.com) wrote: > Jonathan Stowe sent the following bits through the ether: > > > Dave, I never got around to making your list but I will do at some > > juncture ... > > Want a list on astray.com? Or perhaps it's time for subapprox.org? ;-) Mark was talking about setting one up on twoshortplanks - that's the same box as astray.com isn't it? Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk | dave@dave.org.uk | sms@dave.org.uk "Be careful what you dream of, it may come up and surprise you" - Ian MacNabb From mark at profero.com Mon Oct 2 03:11:11 2000 From: mark at profero.com (Mark Fowler) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: Sub::Approx::Subclass (was Re: Grep here yet?) In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20001001190618.02338040@pop.dave.org.uk> Message-ID: > p.s. Mark, I think I've got a solution to your Sub::Approx::Subclass > problems. Haven't had time to investigate it this weekend, but I'll try it > out tomorrow and get back to you. I had a little think about that this weekend while I was moving boxes o' stuff around London and I came up with this (perverted) way of doing things.... You have three (3) classes. Sub::Approx, Sub::Approx::Subclass, and Sub::Approx::Subclass::Matchers. Note that I haven't actually tried this yet... The first file is : package Sub::Approx::Subclass::Matchers; sub matchers { my $this = shift; my @hash = $this->SUPER::matchers; push @hash, "whatever" => [\&setup_whatever,&match_whatever]; return @hash } 1; package Sub::Approx::Subclass; use base qw(Sub::Approx::Subclass::Matchers Sub::Approx); 1; ----- You'll also need to make a few changes to Sub::Approx, namely that you replace line 44 to read my %funcs = $class->matches; And make a subroutine that does sub matches { (text_soundex => [\&setup_text_soundex, \&match_text_soundex, text_metaphone => [\&setup_text_metaphone, \&match_text_metaphone], string_approx => [\&setup_string_approx, \&match_string_approx]) } Not sure if this will work or not.... Later. Mark -- print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_>6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} ( Name => 'Mark Fowler', Title => 'Technology Developer' , Firm => 'Profero Ltd', Web => 'http://www.profero.com/' , Email => 'mark@profero.com', Phone => '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' ) From mark at profero.com Mon Oct 2 03:13:30 2000 From: mark at profero.com (Mark Fowler) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: Grep here yet? In-Reply-To: <20001002075130.A1113@mag-sol.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: > Mark was talking about setting one up on twoshortplanks > - that's the same box as astray.com isn't it? Yep. Mark was talking about getting Leon to do it to because he's too lazy. Will give Leon access to our 1Mb pipe later today and instruct him to get on with it.... Later. Mark. -- print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_>6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} ( Name => 'Mark Fowler', Title => 'Technology Developer' , Firm => 'Profero Ltd', Web => 'http://www.profero.com/' , Email => 'mark@profero.com', Phone => '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' ) From dave at dave.org.uk Mon Oct 2 05:53:43 2000 From: dave at dave.org.uk (Dave Cross) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: Sub::Approx::Subclass (was Re: Grep here yet?) Message-ID: <021000276.14007@webbox.com> From: Mark Fowler Date: 10/2/00 9:11:11 AM >> p.s. Mark, I think I've got a solution to your >> Sub::Approx::Subclass problems. Haven't had time to >> investigate it this weekend, but I'll try it out >> tomorrow and get back to you. > > I had a little think about that this weekend while I was > moving boxes o' stuff around London and I came up with > this (perverted) way of doing things.... > > You have three (3) classes. Sub::Approx, > Sub::Approx::Subclass, and > Sub::Approx::Subclass::Matchers. Note that I haven't > actually tried this yet... > > The first file is : > > package Sub::Approx::Subclass::Matchers; > > sub matchers > { > my $this = shift; > my @hash = $this->SUPER::matchers; > push @hash, "whatever" => > [\&setup_whatever,&match_whatever]; > return @hash > } > > 1; > > package Sub::Approx::Subclass; > use base qw(Sub::Approx::Subclass::Matchers Sub::Approx); > > 1; > > ----- > > You'll also need to make a few changes to Sub::Approx, > namely that you replace line 44 to read > > my %funcs = $class->matches; > > And make a subroutine that does > > sub matches > { > (text_soundex => [\&setup_text_soundex, > \&match_text_soundex, > text_metaphone => [\&setup_text_metaphone, > \&match_text_metaphone], > string_approx => [\&setup_string_approx, > \&match_string_approx]) > } > > Not sure if this will work or not.... > > Later. That's all _far_ too complex. See my mail to london.pm earlier this morning for my solution. Dave... -- "The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one", he said. But still they come. From greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk Wed Oct 11 17:58:35 2000 From: greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk (Greg McCarroll) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <021000276.14007@webbox.com>; from dave@dave.org.uk on Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 03:53:43AM -0700 References: <021000276.14007@webbox.com> Message-ID: <20001011235835.A5480@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> we've only got a few short weeks left of buffy fever here, i can post random utterings, but really we need some good debate to keep it going so i put it you , willow is nothing but an ugly bird that all the geeks fancy because they feel inadequate to consider buffy -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net perl hacker | book collector | the very model of a modern mailing list kook London.pm - meetings held on the day after the first wednesday of the month From dave at dave.org.uk Thu Oct 12 01:57:03 2000 From: dave at dave.org.uk (dave) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <20001011235835.A5480@mccarroll.demon.co.uk>; from greg@mccarroll.demon.co.uk on Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 11:58:35PM +0100 References: <021000276.14007@webbox.com> <20001011235835.A5480@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20001012075703.D845@mag-sol.demon.co.uk> On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 11:58:35PM +0100, Greg McCarroll (greg@mccarroll.demon.co.uk) wrote: > > we've only got a few short weeks left of buffy fever here, i can post > random utterings, but really we need some good debate to keep it going You've been pretty much failing in your task here haven't you? I'm sure that brian would be very disappointed. > so i put it you , willow is nothing but an ugly bird that all the > geeks fancy because they feel inadequate to consider buffy You're wrong and you know you are. The fact is that some of us are discerning enough to be interested in someone with some intelligence rather than a bimbo who simply conforms to societies sterotypes of attractiveness. After all, who would you rather see yourself as, Oz or Riley? Cheers, Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk | dave@dave.org.uk | sms@dave.org.uk "Be careful what you dream of, it may come up and surprise you" - Ian MacNabb From greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk Thu Oct 12 02:21:12 2000 From: greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk (Greg McCarroll) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: ; from mapjpw@bath.ac.uk on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 12:40:18AM +0100 References: <20001011235835.A5480@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20001012082112.A7413@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> * Jon Wilson (mapjpw@bath.ac.uk) wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > so i put it you , willow is nothing but an ugly bird that all the > > geeks fancy because they feel inadequate to consider buffy > > Yes, clearly. But not exactly ugly in the strict sense, it's just > relative. But what has this to do with Perl? (Not that I mind, I just > wondered!). > blame brian d foy, also obviously whatever foolish foolish person [;-)] setup bath.pm didn't explain the full significance of discussing BtVS on pm lists, Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net perl hacker | book collector | the very model of a modern mailing list kook London.pm - meetings held on the day after the first wednesday of the month From greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk Thu Oct 12 02:26:51 2000 From: greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk (Greg McCarroll) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <20001012075703.D845@mag-sol.demon.co.uk>; from dave@dave.org.uk on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 07:57:03AM +0100 References: <021000276.14007@webbox.com> <20001011235835.A5480@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012075703.D845@mag-sol.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20001012082651.A7442@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> * dave (dave@dave.org.uk) wrote: > On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 11:58:35PM +0100, Greg McCarroll (greg@mccarroll.demon.co.uk) wrote: > > > > we've only got a few short weeks left of buffy fever here, i can post > > random utterings, but really we need some good debate to keep it going > > You've been pretty much failing in your task here haven't you? I'm > sure that brian would be very disappointed. i wonder if he will want a refund ;-) > You're wrong and you know you are. The fact is that some of us are > discerning enough to be interested in someone with some intelligence > rather than a bimbo who simply conforms to societies sterotypes of > attractiveness. yeah but Buffy slays > > After all, who would you rather see yourself as, Oz or Riley? > shouldn't that be (Riley or Angel) or (The girl whose name i forget or Oz) Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net perl hacker | book collector | the very model of a modern mailing list kook London.pm - meetings held on the day after the first wednesday of the month From mark at profero.com Thu Oct 12 03:55:46 2000 From: mark at profero.com (Mark Fowler) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <20001012082651.A7442@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: > > > > > After all, who would you rather see yourself as, Oz or Riley? > > Speaking of Oz, did Leon mention that when we were in Bath this weekend we met this guy giving out leaflets that looked exactly like Seth Green[1]? Later. Mark. [1] No, we looked around for Buffy's doppelganger, but alas we were disappointed... -- print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_>6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} ( Name => 'Mark Fowler', Title => 'Technology Developer' , Firm => 'Profero Ltd', Web => 'http://www.profero.com/' , Email => 'mark@profero.com', Phone => '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' ) From greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk Thu Oct 12 04:56:19 2000 From: greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk (Greg McCarroll) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: ; from mark@profero.com on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 09:55:46AM +0100 References: <20001012082651.A7442@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20001012105618.A8105@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> * Mark Fowler (mark@profero.com) wrote: > > > > > > > > After all, who would you rather see yourself as, Oz or Riley? > > > > > Speaking of Oz, did Leon mention that when we were in Bath this weekend we > met this guy giving out leaflets that looked exactly like Seth Green[1]? > Have I told you the story that at YAPC::Europe for that fashion thingy that was going on, one of the 8uffsters costume designers was in attendance, Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net perl hacker | book collector | the very model of a modern mailing list kook London.pm - meetings held on the day after the first wednesday of the month From mark at profero.com Thu Oct 12 05:00:31 2000 From: mark at profero.com (Mark Fowler) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <20001012105618.A8105@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: > Have I told you the story that at YAPC::Europe for that fashion thingy > that was going on, one of the 8uffsters costume designers was in > attendance, > Um, yes. Infact you told the while on stage during your mad rush to sell Buffy videos to a conference of Perl people. Which IIRC is how we got in this fine mess in the first place. Later. Mark. P.S. I haven't been watching Buffy as I've been too busy. When does the next boxed set come out (i.e. the one after graduation) or is it out yet? -- print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_>6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} ( Name => 'Mark Fowler', Title => 'Technology Developer' , Firm => 'Profero Ltd', Web => 'http://www.profero.com/' , Email => 'mark@profero.com', Phone => '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' ) From neil at ourshack.com Thu Oct 12 05:45:41 2000 From: neil at ourshack.com (Neil Ford) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: ; from mark@profero.com on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 11:00:31AM +0100 References: <20001012105618.A8105@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20001012114541.B725@krycek.dkfl.co.uk> On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 11:00:31AM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: > > Have I told you the story that at YAPC::Europe for that fashion thingy > > that was going on, one of the 8uffsters costume designers was in > > attendance, > > > > Um, yes. Infact you told the while on stage during your mad rush to sell > Buffy videos to a conference of Perl people. Which IIRC is how we got in > this fine mess in the first place. > > Later. > > Mark. > > P.S. I haven't been watching Buffy as I've been too busy. When does the > next boxed set come out (i.e. the one after graduation) or is it out yet? > The big question is: Do Blackstar do standing orders? "One each of the Buffy DVD box sets please :-)" Neil. -- Neil C. Ford neil@ourshack.com / neil@binky.demon.co.uk http://www.binky.ourshack.org From dave at dave.org.uk Thu Oct 12 05:59:20 2000 From: dave at dave.org.uk (Dave Cross) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: willow Message-ID: <121000286.14359@webbox.com> From: Greg McCarroll Date: 10/12/00 7:26:51 AM >* dave (dave@dave.org.uk) wrote: >> >> You're wrong and you know you are. The fact is that some >> of us are discerning enough to be interested in someone >> with some intelligence rather than a bimbo who simply >> conforms to societies sterotypes of attractiveness. > >yeah but Buffy slays buffy--; Who wants be get involved with someone who spends every evening in a graveyard? >> After all, who would you rather see yourself as, Oz or >> Riley? > > shouldn't that be (Riley or Angel) or (The girl whose name > i forget or Oz) This is, of course, a spoiler to people who are watching series 4 on the BBC, but the woman whose name you have forgotten is Tara. Dave... -- "The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one", he said. But still they come. From dave at dave.org.uk Thu Oct 12 06:44:26 2000 From: dave at dave.org.uk (Dave Cross) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: willow Message-ID: <121000286.17065@webbox.com> From: Mark Fowler Date: 10/12/00 11:00:31 AM > P.S. I haven't been watching Buffy as I've been too busy. > When does the next boxed set come out (i.e. the one after > graduation) or is it out yet? The first half of series 4 is supposed to be out on Oct 23rd according to my Blackstar pre-order. Same day as the first half of Angel series 1 - which will come as a relief to those currently trying to understand the hacked up versions on C4. Dave... -- "The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one", he said. But still they come. From greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk Thu Oct 12 06:44:56 2000 From: greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk (Greg McCarroll) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <121000286.14359@webbox.com>; from dave@dave.org.uk on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 03:59:20AM -0700 References: <121000286.14359@webbox.com> Message-ID: <20001012124456.A8496@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> * Dave Cross (dave@dave.org.uk) wrote: > > > > >yeah but Buffy slays > > buffy--; > Who wants be get involved with someone who spends every evening > in a graveyard? this is where we need Dave the goth from London.pm for his expert goth knowledge ;-) > > This is, of course, a spoiler to people who are watching series > 4 on the BBC, but the woman whose name you have forgotten is > Tara. > ah, but your argument is still unhinged, preferring willow is like someone whose sexual choice includes men, going for jimmy olsen instead of superman, Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net perl hacker | book collector | the very model of a modern mailing list kook London.pm - meetings held on the day after the first wednesday of the month From dha at panix.com Thu Oct 12 10:38:17 2000 From: dha at panix.com (David H. Adler) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <20001012082112.A7413@mccarroll.demon.co.uk>; from greg@mccarroll.demon.co.uk on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 08:21:12AM +0100 References: <20001011235835.A5480@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012082112.A7413@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20001012113817.A4500@panix.com> On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 08:21:12AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > blame brian d foy, also obviously whatever foolish foolish person [;-)] > setup bath.pm didn't explain the full significance of discussing BtVS > on pm lists, *English* pm lists. :-) -- David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ Why *isn't* there a Widget::Gonzo module? From greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk Thu Oct 12 11:21:20 2000 From: greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk (Greg McCarroll) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <20001012113817.A4500@panix.com>; from dha@panix.com on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 11:38:17AM -0400 References: <20001011235835.A5480@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012082112.A7413@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012113817.A4500@panix.com> Message-ID: <20001012172120.A9683@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> * David H. Adler (dha@panix.com) wrote: > On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 08:21:12AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > > blame brian d foy, also obviously whatever foolish foolish person [;-)] > > setup bath.pm didn't explain the full significance of discussing BtVS > > on pm lists, > > *English* pm lists. :-) > i'm sure i've seen buffy mentioned on ny.pm -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net perl hacker | book collector | the very model of a modern mailing list kook London.pm - meetings held on the day after the first wednesday of the month From dha at panix.com Thu Oct 12 11:44:30 2000 From: dha at panix.com (David H. Adler) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <20001012172120.A9683@mccarroll.demon.co.uk>; from greg@mccarroll.demon.co.uk on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 05:21:20PM +0100 References: <20001011235835.A5480@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012082112.A7413@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012113817.A4500@panix.com> <20001012172120.A9683@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20001012124430.E7149@panix.com> On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 05:21:20PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * David H. Adler (dha@panix.com) wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 08:21:12AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > > > > blame brian d foy, also obviously whatever foolish foolish person [;-)] > > > setup bath.pm didn't explain the full significance of discussing BtVS > > > on pm lists, > > > > *English* pm lists. :-) > > > > i'm sure i've seen buffy mentioned on ny.pm A) It may be mentioned, but it's not the raison d'etre of the list, like *some* I could mention on the other side of the pond... ii) It was probably mentioned on ny.pm by *you*. :-) dha -- David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ Your Aunt Linda should maybe stay away from the Manischewitz. Or stop using it to wash down prescription tranquilizers, whichever. - Mary Roth From greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk Thu Oct 12 13:00:38 2000 From: greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk (Greg McCarroll) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <20001012124430.E7149@panix.com>; from dha@panix.com on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 12:44:30PM -0400 References: <20001011235835.A5480@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012082112.A7413@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012113817.A4500@panix.com> <20001012172120.A9683@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012124430.E7149@panix.com> Message-ID: <20001012190038.A522@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> * David H. Adler (dha@panix.com) wrote: > On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 05:21:20PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > * David H. Adler (dha@panix.com) wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 08:21:12AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > > > > > > blame brian d foy, also obviously whatever foolish foolish person [;-)] > > > > setup bath.pm didn't explain the full significance of discussing BtVS > > > > on pm lists, > > > > > > *English* pm lists. :-) > > > > > > > i'm sure i've seen buffy mentioned on ny.pm > > A) It may be mentioned, but it's not the raison d'etre of the list, > like *some* I could mention on the other side of the pond... dave.told.us.to > ii) It was probably mentioned on ny.pm by *you*. :-) i really need to create a false identity for myself so i can have more mailing list activity without being spotted, Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net perl hacker | book collector | the very model of a modern mailing list kook London.pm - meetings held on the day after the first wednesday of the month From dha at panix.com Thu Oct 12 13:04:51 2000 From: dha at panix.com (David H. Adler) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <20001012190038.A522@mccarroll.demon.co.uk>; from greg@mccarroll.demon.co.uk on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 07:00:38PM +0100 References: <20001011235835.A5480@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012082112.A7413@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012113817.A4500@panix.com> <20001012172120.A9683@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012124430.E7149@panix.com> <20001012190038.A522@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20001012140451.A28241@panix.com> On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 07:00:38PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * David H. Adler (dha@panix.com) wrote: > > > ii) It was probably mentioned on ny.pm by *you*. :-) > > i really need to create a false identity for myself so i can have > more mailing list activity without being spotted, I thought being spotted was the whole point of being a mailing list kook? dha -- David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ "supported" is an MS term that means the function exists. The fact that it always fails means, that it is an exercise for the programmer. - Sarathy, p5p From magnus at huckvale.net Thu Oct 12 13:40:49 2000 From: magnus at huckvale.net (Magnus Huckvale) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:39 2004 Subject: willow References: <20001011235835.A5480@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012082112.A7413@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012113817.A4500@panix.com> <20001012172120.A9683@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012124430.E7149@panix.com> <20001012190038.A522@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012140451.A28241@panix.com> Message-ID: <059401c0347b$f117e270$26c0bcc3@noodle> Enough with the Buffy talk, please. Magnus From greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk Thu Oct 12 14:05:15 2000 From: greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk (Greg McCarroll) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <20001012140451.A28241@panix.com>; from dha@panix.com on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 02:04:51PM -0400 References: <20001011235835.A5480@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012082112.A7413@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012113817.A4500@panix.com> <20001012172120.A9683@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012124430.E7149@panix.com> <20001012190038.A522@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012140451.A28241@panix.com> Message-ID: <20001012200515.A839@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> * David H. Adler (dha@panix.com) wrote: > On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 07:00:38PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > * David H. Adler (dha@panix.com) wrote: > > > > > ii) It was probably mentioned on ny.pm by *you*. :-) > > > > i really need to create a false identity for myself so i can have > > more mailing list activity without being spotted, > > I thought being spotted was the whole point of being a mailing list > kook? > ah, that is just the first level of kookery, my false identity will take me to level 2, mind you it is a doomed task when you actually do web searches and find out what some of the classic net kooks of old used to do. anyway i have to run, there is an invisible and silent helicopter flying overhead and i'm out of tinfoil Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net perl hacker | book collector | the very model of a modern mailing list kook London.pm - meetings held on the day after the first wednesday of the month From acme at astray.com Thu Oct 12 13:40:37 2000 From: acme at astray.com (Leon Brocard) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <059401c0347b$f117e270$26c0bcc3@noodle>; from magnus@huckvale.net on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 07:40:49PM +0100 References: <20001011235835.A5480@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012082112.A7413@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012113817.A4500@panix.com> <20001012172120.A9683@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012124430.E7149@panix.com> <20001012190038.A522@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012140451.A28241@panix.com> <059401c0347b$f117e270$26c0bcc3@noodle> Message-ID: <20001012194037.A1113@ns0.astray.com> Magnus Huckvale sent the following bits through the ether: > Enough with the Buffy talk, please. I'd suggest you head off to London.pm-list for the next two weeks, then ;-) Leon -- Leon Brocard.............................http://www.astray.com/ yapc::Europe............................http://yapc.org/Europe/ ... Where has all that spare time just come from? ;-) From dave at dave.org.uk Thu Oct 12 14:46:52 2000 From: dave at dave.org.uk (Dave Cross) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <059401c0347b$f117e270$26c0bcc3@noodle> References: <20001011235835.A5480@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012082112.A7413@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012113817.A4500@panix.com> <20001012172120.A9683@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012124430.E7149@panix.com> <20001012190038.A522@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012140451.A28241@panix.com> Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20001012204603.02349500@pop.dave.org.uk> At 19:40 12/10/00, Magnus Huckvale wrote: >Enough with the Buffy talk, please. Someone in authority in bath.pm should really explain what's going here. -- SMS: sms@dave.org.uk "The blackness would hit me and the (void) would be calling..." From daveh at hodgkinson.org Thu Oct 12 14:45:33 2000 From: daveh at hodgkinson.org (David Hodgkinson) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: "Magnus Huckvale"'s message of "Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:40:49 +0100" References: <20001011235835.A5480@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012082112.A7413@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012113817.A4500@panix.com> <20001012172120.A9683@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012124430.E7149@panix.com> <20001012190038.A522@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012140451.A28241@panix.com> <059401c0347b$f117e270$26c0bcc3@noodle> Message-ID: "Magnus Huckvale" writes: > Enough with the Buffy talk, please. Oh dear Magnus. Trying to slay the slayers? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire ----------------------------------------------------------------- From greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk Thu Oct 12 15:02:09 2000 From: greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk (Greg McCarroll) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20001012204603.02349500@pop.dave.org.uk>; from dave@dave.org.uk on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 08:46:52PM +0100 References: <20001011235835.A5480@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012082112.A7413@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012113817.A4500@panix.com> <20001012172120.A9683@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012124430.E7149@panix.com> <20001012190038.A522@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012140451.A28241@panix.com> <059401c0347b$f117e270$26c0bcc3@noodle> <5.0.0.25.2.20001012204603.02349500@pop.dave.org.uk> Message-ID: <20001012210209.A1138@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> * Dave Cross (dave@dave.org.uk) wrote: > At 19:40 12/10/00, Magnus Huckvale wrote: > > >Enough with the Buffy talk, please. > > Someone in authority in bath.pm should really explain what's going here. > or else in authority of all the PM organisation, Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net perl hacker | book collector | the very model of a modern mailing list kook London.pm - meetings held on the day after the first wednesday of the month From magnus at huckvale.net Thu Oct 12 15:15:50 2000 From: magnus at huckvale.net (Magnus Huckvale) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: willow References: <20001011235835.A5480@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012082112.A7413@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012113817.A4500@panix.com> <20001012172120.A9683@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012124430.E7149@panix.com> <20001012190038.A522@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012140451.A28241@panix.com> <059401c0347b$f117e270$26c0bcc3@noodle> <5.0.0.25.2.20001012204603.02349500@pop.dave.org.uk> <20001012210209.A1138@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <05cd01c03489$4d9e2e70$26c0bcc3@noodle> > or else in authority of all the PM organisation, Given that I'm pretty much the last surviving member of Bath.pm, I'd say so, yes. From greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk Thu Oct 12 15:34:28 2000 From: greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk (Greg McCarroll) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <05cd01c03489$4d9e2e70$26c0bcc3@noodle>; from magnus@huckvale.net on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 09:15:50PM +0100 References: <20001012082112.A7413@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012113817.A4500@panix.com> <20001012172120.A9683@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012124430.E7149@panix.com> <20001012190038.A522@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012140451.A28241@panix.com> <059401c0347b$f117e270$26c0bcc3@noodle> <5.0.0.25.2.20001012204603.02349500@pop.dave.org.uk> <20001012210209.A1138@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <05cd01c03489$4d9e2e70$26c0bcc3@noodle> Message-ID: <20001012213428.A1316@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> * Magnus Huckvale (magnus@huckvale.net) wrote: > > > or else in authority of all the PM organisation, > > Given that I'm pretty much the last surviving member of Bath.pm, I'd say so, > yes. > there is a good reason we are here, but it might be good to start some more technical discussion while the membership is swelled as a byproduct of our presence. -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net perl hacker | book collector | the very model of a modern mailing list kook London.pm - meetings held on the day after the first wednesday of the month From acme at astray.com Thu Oct 12 14:59:08 2000 From: acme at astray.com (Leon Brocard) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20001012204603.02349500@pop.dave.org.uk>; from dave@dave.org.uk on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 08:46:52PM +0100 References: <20001011235835.A5480@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012082112.A7413@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012113817.A4500@panix.com> <20001012172120.A9683@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012124430.E7149@panix.com> <20001012190038.A522@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012140451.A28241@panix.com> <059401c0347b$f117e270$26c0bcc3@noodle> <5.0.0.25.2.20001012204603.02349500@pop.dave.org.uk> Message-ID: <20001012205908.B2480@ns0.astray.com> Dave Cross sent the following bits through the ether: > Someone in authority in bath.pm should really explain what's going here. Well, seeing as Bath.pm doesn't actually meet any more, it's hard to say who that'd be... btw I *did* explain this all two weeks ago. If you can't cope with the number of mails switch to Mail::Audit and mutt ;-) Leon -- Leon Brocard.............................http://www.astray.com/ yapc::Europe............................http://yapc.org/Europe/ ... Where has all that spare time just come from? ;-) From acme at astray.com Thu Oct 12 15:05:32 2000 From: acme at astray.com (Leon Brocard) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <20001012213428.A1316@mccarroll.demon.co.uk>; from greg@mccarroll.demon.co.uk on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 09:34:28PM +0100 References: <20001012113817.A4500@panix.com> <20001012172120.A9683@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012124430.E7149@panix.com> <20001012190038.A522@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012140451.A28241@panix.com> <059401c0347b$f117e270$26c0bcc3@noodle> <5.0.0.25.2.20001012204603.02349500@pop.dave.org.uk> <20001012210209.A1138@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <05cd01c03489$4d9e2e70$26c0bcc3@noodle> <20001012213428.A1316@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20001012210532.C2480@ns0.astray.com> Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether: > there is a good reason we are here, but it might be good to start some > more technical discussion while the membership is swelled as a > byproduct of our presence. Well, seeing as this is Bath.pm, may I suggest people play with my new, faster and prettier, build of the Perl Monger World Map? http://bath.pm.org/map/ I had a large poster of this printed for yapc::Europe, but it appears to have walked off. Darn. I'll just have to print a higher-res one for the Deutscher Perl Workshop[1] ;-) Leon [1] Gonna give my Graphing Perl talk there, with any luck, so if anyone has any ideas... -- Leon Brocard.............................http://www.astray.com/ yapc::Europe............................http://yapc.org/Europe/ ... Where has all that spare time just come from? ;-) From greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk Thu Oct 12 16:08:02 2000 From: greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk (Greg McCarroll) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <20001012205908.B2480@ns0.astray.com>; from acme@astray.com on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 08:59:08PM +0100 References: <20001012082112.A7413@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012113817.A4500@panix.com> <20001012172120.A9683@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012124430.E7149@panix.com> <20001012190038.A522@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012140451.A28241@panix.com> <059401c0347b$f117e270$26c0bcc3@noodle> <5.0.0.25.2.20001012204603.02349500@pop.dave.org.uk> <20001012205908.B2480@ns0.astray.com> Message-ID: <20001012220802.A1504@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> * Leon Brocard (acme@astray.com) wrote: > Dave Cross sent the following bits through the ether: > > > Someone in authority in bath.pm should really explain what's going here. > > Well, seeing as Bath.pm doesn't actually meet any more, it's hard to > say who that'd be... > > btw I *did* explain this all two weeks ago. If you can't cope with the > number of mails switch to Mail::Audit and mutt ;-) > someone should explain again, or else brian d foy should be informed about the chaos we are causing, Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net perl hacker | book collector | the very model of a modern mailing list kook London.pm - meetings held on the day after the first wednesday of the month From dave at dave.org.uk Thu Oct 12 16:13:05 2000 From: dave at dave.org.uk (Dave Cross) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <05cd01c03489$4d9e2e70$26c0bcc3@noodle> References: <20001011235835.A5480@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012082112.A7413@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012113817.A4500@panix.com> <20001012172120.A9683@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012124430.E7149@panix.com> <20001012190038.A522@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012140451.A28241@panix.com> <059401c0347b$f117e270$26c0bcc3@noodle> <5.0.0.25.2.20001012204603.02349500@pop.dave.org.uk> <20001012210209.A1138@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20001012221202.01b00d70@pop.dave.org.uk> At 21:15 12/10/00, Magnus Huckvale wrote: > > or else in authority of all the PM organisation, > >Given that I'm pretty much the last surviving member of Bath.pm, I'd say so, >yes. There are apparently 25 subscribers to the bath.pm list, but of them at least 12 don't live in bath. Two of those 12 don't even live in the UK. Dave... -- SMS: sms@dave.org.uk "The blackness would hit me and the (void) would be calling..." From dha at panix.com Thu Oct 12 16:13:17 2000 From: dha at panix.com (David H. Adler) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <20001012210209.A1138@mccarroll.demon.co.uk>; from greg@mccarroll.demon.co.uk on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 09:02:09PM +0100 References: <20001012082112.A7413@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012113817.A4500@panix.com> <20001012172120.A9683@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012124430.E7149@panix.com> <20001012190038.A522@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012140451.A28241@panix.com> <059401c0347b$f117e270$26c0bcc3@noodle> <5.0.0.25.2.20001012204603.02349500@pop.dave.org.uk> <20001012210209.A1138@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20001012171317.A934@panix.com> On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 09:02:09PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * Dave Cross (dave@dave.org.uk) wrote: > > At 19:40 12/10/00, Magnus Huckvale wrote: > > > > >Enough with the Buffy talk, please. > > > > Someone in authority in bath.pm should really explain what's going here. > > > > or else in authority of all the PM organisation, But what in the world does that *mean*? dha -- David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ "Que?" - Manuel From greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk Thu Oct 12 16:13:56 2000 From: greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk (Greg McCarroll) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <20001012210532.C2480@ns0.astray.com>; from acme@astray.com on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 09:05:32PM +0100 References: <20001012172120.A9683@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012124430.E7149@panix.com> <20001012190038.A522@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012140451.A28241@panix.com> <059401c0347b$f117e270$26c0bcc3@noodle> <5.0.0.25.2.20001012204603.02349500@pop.dave.org.uk> <20001012210209.A1138@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <05cd01c03489$4d9e2e70$26c0bcc3@noodle> <20001012213428.A1316@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012210532.C2480@ns0.astray.com> Message-ID: <20001012221356.A1523@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> * Leon Brocard (acme@astray.com) wrote: > Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether: > > > there is a good reason we are here, but it might be good to start some > > more technical discussion while the membership is swelled as a > > byproduct of our presence. > > Well, seeing as this is Bath.pm, may I suggest people play with > my new, faster and prettier, build of the Perl Monger World Map? > > http://bath.pm.org/map/ > > I had a large poster of this printed for yapc::Europe, but it appears > to have walked off. Darn. I'll just have to print a higher-res one for > the Deutscher Perl Workshop[1] ;-) > i didn't get a YAPC poster either :-(, which is the one thing i really wanted to pinch, however i do have about 1000 ORA beer mats and i can send a lot down to Bath.pm's next meeting as way of apology Gregs -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net perl hacker | book collector | the very model of a modern mailing list kook London.pm - meetings held on the day after the first wednesday of the month From greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk Thu Oct 12 16:29:07 2000 From: greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk (Greg McCarroll) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20001012221202.01b00d70@pop.dave.org.uk>; from dave@dave.org.uk on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 10:13:05PM +0100 References: <20001012113817.A4500@panix.com> <20001012172120.A9683@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012124430.E7149@panix.com> <20001012190038.A522@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012140451.A28241@panix.com> <059401c0347b$f117e270$26c0bcc3@noodle> <5.0.0.25.2.20001012204603.02349500@pop.dave.org.uk> <20001012210209.A1138@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <05cd01c03489$4d9e2e70$26c0bcc3@noodle> <5.0.0.25.2.20001012221202.01b00d70@pop.dave.org.uk> Message-ID: <20001012222907.A1624@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> * Dave Cross (dave@dave.org.uk) wrote: > At 21:15 12/10/00, Magnus Huckvale wrote: > > > > or else in authority of all the PM organisation, > > > >Given that I'm pretty much the last surviving member of Bath.pm, I'd say so, > >yes. > > There are apparently 25 subscribers to the bath.pm list, but of them at > least 12 don't live in bath. Two of those 12 don't even live in the UK. > dha is one of the 2, who is the other? -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net perl hacker | book collector | the very model of a modern mailing list kook London.pm - meetings held on the day after the first wednesday of the month From greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk Thu Oct 12 16:30:11 2000 From: greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk (Greg McCarroll) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <20001012171317.A934@panix.com>; from dha@panix.com on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 05:13:17PM -0400 References: <20001012082112.A7413@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012113817.A4500@panix.com> <20001012172120.A9683@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012124430.E7149@panix.com> <20001012190038.A522@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012140451.A28241@panix.com> <059401c0347b$f117e270$26c0bcc3@noodle> <5.0.0.25.2.20001012204603.02349500@pop.dave.org.uk> <20001012210209.A1138@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012171317.A934@panix.com> Message-ID: <20001012223011.A1633@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> * David H. Adler (dha@panix.com) wrote: > On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 09:02:09PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > * Dave Cross (dave@dave.org.uk) wrote: > > > At 19:40 12/10/00, Magnus Huckvale wrote: > > > > > > >Enough with the Buffy talk, please. > > > > > > Someone in authority in bath.pm should really explain what's going here. > > > > > > > or else in authority of all the PM organisation, > > But what in the world does that *mean*? > we are a revolutionary force designed to create a new world order, regds, greg e mccarroll -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net perl hacker | book collector | the very model of a modern mailing list kook London.pm - meetings held on the day after the first wednesday of the month From dave at dave.org.uk Thu Oct 12 16:54:52 2000 From: dave at dave.org.uk (Dave Cross) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <20001012222907.A1624@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> References: <5.0.0.25.2.20001012221202.01b00d70@pop.dave.org.uk> <20001012113817.A4500@panix.com> <20001012172120.A9683@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012124430.E7149@panix.com> <20001012190038.A522@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012140451.A28241@panix.com> <059401c0347b$f117e270$26c0bcc3@noodle> <5.0.0.25.2.20001012204603.02349500@pop.dave.org.uk> <20001012210209.A1138@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <05cd01c03489$4d9e2e70$26c0bcc3@noodle> <5.0.0.25.2.20001012221202.01b00d70@pop.dave.org.uk> Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20001012225405.01b9b0c0@pop.dave.org.uk> At 22:29 12/10/00, Greg McCarroll wrote: >* Dave Cross (dave@dave.org.uk) wrote: > > At 21:15 12/10/00, Magnus Huckvale wrote: > > > > > > or else in authority of all the PM organisation, > > > > > >Given that I'm pretty much the last surviving member of Bath.pm, I'd > say so, > > >yes. > > > > There are apparently 25 subscribers to the bath.pm list, but of them at > > least 12 don't live in bath. Two of those 12 don't even live in the UK. > > > >dha is one of the 2, who is the other? I think I'll let Philip answer that one himself. -- SMS: sms@dave.org.uk "The blackness would hit me and the (void) would be calling..." From dha at panix.com Thu Oct 12 18:05:07 2000 From: dha at panix.com (David H. Adler) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: <20001012223011.A1633@mccarroll.demon.co.uk>; from greg@mccarroll.demon.co.uk on Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 10:30:11PM +0100 References: <20001012113817.A4500@panix.com> <20001012172120.A9683@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012124430.E7149@panix.com> <20001012190038.A522@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012140451.A28241@panix.com> <059401c0347b$f117e270$26c0bcc3@noodle> <5.0.0.25.2.20001012204603.02349500@pop.dave.org.uk> <20001012210209.A1138@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012171317.A934@panix.com> <20001012223011.A1633@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20001012190507.G21629@panix.com> On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 10:30:11PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * David H. Adler (dha@panix.com) wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 09:02:09PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > * Dave Cross (dave@dave.org.uk) wrote: > > > > At 19:40 12/10/00, Magnus Huckvale wrote: > > > > > > > > >Enough with the Buffy talk, please. > > > > > > > > Someone in authority in bath.pm should really explain what's going here. > > > > > > > > > > or else in authority of all the PM organisation, > > > > But what in the world does that *mean*? > > > > we are a revolutionary force designed to create a new world order, Does this mean that we are of Extraordinary Magnitude? :-) dave, not sure that movie ever made it to the UK.... -- David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ "Now everyone, grep your pod, and we'll begin..." - John Porter in <357FD9DB.2109@min.net> From philip.newton at datenrevision.de Fri Oct 13 00:58:55 2000 From: philip.newton at datenrevision.de (Philip Newton) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: willow Message-ID: Leon Brocard wrote: > I had a large poster of this printed for yapc::Europe, but it appears > to have walked off. Darn. I'll just have to print a higher-res one for > the Deutscher Perl Workshop[1] ;-) > > Leon > > [1] Gonna give my Graphing Perl talk there, with any luck, so > if anyone has any ideas... In German? :) Cheers, Philip From philip.newton at datenrevision.de Fri Oct 13 01:00:02 2000 From: philip.newton at datenrevision.de (Philip Newton) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: willow Message-ID: Dave Cross wrote: > There are apparently 25 subscribers to the bath.pm list, but > of them at least 12 don't live in bath. Two of those 12 don't > even live in the UK. That would include me, I suppose. (The .de kind of gives it away, I suppose.) I signed up expressly for the Buffiness, I'll have you lot know! (My condolences to you, Magnus.) Cheers, Philip From philip.newton at datenrevision.de Fri Oct 13 01:01:21 2000 From: philip.newton at datenrevision.de (Philip Newton) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: willow Message-ID: Dave Cross wrote: > At 22:29 12/10/00, Greg McCarroll wrote: > >dha is one of the 2, who is the other? > > I think I'll let Philip answer that one himself. I just did, before reading this message (following up to another one six messages ago or so). Cheers, Philip From daveh at hodgkinson.org Fri Oct 13 03:18:41 2000 From: daveh at hodgkinson.org (David Hodgkinson) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: Leon Brocard's message of "Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:59:08 +0100" References: <20001011235835.A5480@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012082112.A7413@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012113817.A4500@panix.com> <20001012172120.A9683@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012124430.E7149@panix.com> <20001012190038.A522@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001012140451.A28241@panix.com> <059401c0347b$f117e270$26c0bcc3@noodle> <5.0.0.25.2.20001012204603.02349500@pop.dave.org.uk> <20001012205908.B2480@ns0.astray.com> Message-ID: Leon Brocard writes: > Well, seeing as Bath.pm doesn't actually meet any more, it's hard to > say who that'd be... Surely, any room that has Magnus in it, is a quorum? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire ----------------------------------------------------------------- From acme at astray.com Fri Oct 13 06:38:16 2000 From: acme at astray.com (Leon Brocard) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: willow In-Reply-To: ; from philip.newton@datenrevision.de on Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 07:58:55AM +0200 References: Message-ID: <20001013123816.C9294@ns0.astray.com> Philip Newton sent the following bits through the ether: > In German? :) Unfortunately my German is a bit rusty. I'll be able to understand the talks, I reckon, but I really don't think I'll be able to actually _give_ the talk in German ;-) Leon -- Leon Brocard.............................http://www.astray.com/ yapc::Europe............................http://yapc.org/Europe/ ... Where has all that spare time just come from? ;-) From philip.newton at datenrevision.de Tue Oct 24 07:37:55 2000 From: philip.newton at datenrevision.de (Philip Newton) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: willow Message-ID: Nothing like warming up an old discussion. dave wrote: > On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 11:58:35PM +0100, Greg McCarroll > (greg@mccarroll.demon.co.uk) wrote: > > > > so i put it you , willow is nothing but an ugly bird that all the > > geeks fancy because they feel inadequate to consider buffy > > You're wrong and you know you are. The fact is that some of > us are discerning enough to be interested in someone with > some intelligence rather than a bimbo who simply conforms to > societies sterotypes of attractiveness. Besides, Willow is cuter than Buffy. (Says me, after finding an MPEG archive of past Buffys.) And, for a first-time watcher, more recognisable: I had a hard time recognising Buffy sometimes ("who's this girl in the scene? <10 mins later> Oh, *that's* Buffy"). *And* Willow is a hacker-type. Alyson Hannigan rules. And she even has her own Appreciation Society: http://www.network23.com/hub/ahas/default.html . Eat that! Cheers, Philip From philip.newton at datenrevision.de Mon Oct 30 03:55:34 2000 From: philip.newton at datenrevision.de (Philip Newton) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: Willow is a Bath.pm-er! Message-ID: On 28 Oct 2000, at 13:42, David H. Adler wrote on london-list: > P.S. 8uffy. (making sure we're still on-topic... :-) While we're on the topic of 8uffy and Perl, I'd like to announce my latest discovery: Willow is a Bath.pm-er! Details and incontrovertible evidence at http://newton.digitalspace.net/willow-is-a-bath-pmer/ . This was discovered while watching Episode 9 of Season 1. Just goes to show again that Willow is loads better (and more on-topic!) than 8uffy, who has no Perl connections that we know of! (This besides the fact that she's cuter and wittier :) All hail Alyson Hannigan! Cheers, Philip From daveh at hodgkinson.org Mon Oct 30 04:36:01 2000 From: daveh at hodgkinson.org (David Hodgkinson) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: Willow is a Bath.pm-er! In-Reply-To: Philip Newton's message of "Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:55:34 +0100" References: Message-ID: Philip Newton writes: > On 28 Oct 2000, at 13:42, David H. Adler wrote on london-list: > > > P.S. 8uffy. (making sure we're still on-topic... :-) > > While we're on the topic of 8uffy and Perl, I'd like to announce my latest > discovery: Willow is a Bath.pm-er! Details and incontrovertible evidence at > http://newton.digitalspace.net/willow-is-a-bath-pmer/ . And talking of Bath.pm, how about a meet? I can drag a couple of Sifties along, we have Netcraft and there are a bunch of other .com type firms dotted around... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire ----------------------------------------------------------------- From acme at astray.com Mon Oct 30 03:45:07 2000 From: acme at astray.com (Leon Brocard) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: Willow is a Bath.pm-er! In-Reply-To: ; from philip.newton@datenrevision.de on Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 10:55:34AM +0100 References: Message-ID: <20001030094507.B1881@ns0.astray.com> Philip Newton sent the following bits through the ether: > http://newton.digitalspace.net/willow-is-a-bath-pmer/ . Cool! Compare and contrast with the following scary picture: http://www.engelschall.com/u/sb/perl/yapc/fotos/large/?foto=20 I think her ducky is a bit wrong :-( Leon -- Leon Brocard.............................http://www.astray.com/ yapc::Europe............................http://yapc.org/Europe/ ... Where has all that spare time just come from? ;-) From greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk Mon Oct 30 04:46:04 2000 From: greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk (Greg McCarroll) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: Willow is a Bath.pm-er! In-Reply-To: <20001030094507.B1881@ns0.astray.com>; from acme@astray.com on Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 09:45:07AM +0000 References: <20001030094507.B1881@ns0.astray.com> Message-ID: <20001030104604.A15417@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> * Leon Brocard (acme@astray.com) wrote: > Philip Newton sent the following bits through the ether: > > > http://newton.digitalspace.net/willow-is-a-bath-pmer/ . > > Cool! Compare and contrast with the following scary picture: > http://www.engelschall.com/u/sb/perl/yapc/fotos/large/?foto=20 > > I think her ducky is a bit wrong :-( > no , i see it now , Leon is Willow! -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net perl hacker | book collector | the very model of a modern mailing list kook London.pm - meetings held on the day after the first wednesday of the month From jns at gellyfish.com Mon Oct 30 05:23:15 2000 From: jns at gellyfish.com (Jonathan Stowe) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: Willow is a Bath.pm-er! In-Reply-To: <20001030104604.A15417@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * Leon Brocard (acme@astray.com) wrote: > > Philip Newton sent the following bits through the ether: > > > > > http://newton.digitalspace.net/willow-is-a-bath-pmer/ . > > > > Cool! Compare and contrast with the following scary picture: > > http://www.engelschall.com/u/sb/perl/yapc/fotos/large/?foto=20 > > > > I think her ducky is a bit wrong :-( > > > > no , i see it now , Leon is Willow! > I dont want to contemplate that thank you very much Mr McCarroll /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://www.gellyfish.com | I'm with Grep on this one http://www.tackleway.co.uk | From magnus at huckvale.net Mon Oct 30 06:05:44 2000 From: magnus at huckvale.net (Magnus Huckvale) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: OFFTOPIC: RE: Willow is a Bath.pm-er! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > And talking of Bath.pm, how about a meet? I can drag a couple of > Sifties along, we have Netcraft and there are a bunch of other .com > type firms dotted around... Please take this discussion elsewhere! Do you think this list is for discussing Perl or something? Off topic discussion just causes people interested in genuine Buffy/Willow perving to go elsewhere. But er, yeah. How about Wednesday, 6pm? We'll bring the ducks. Magnus From daveh at hodgkinson.org Mon Oct 30 06:37:18 2000 From: daveh at hodgkinson.org (David Hodgkinson) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: OFFTOPIC: RE: Willow is a Bath.pm-er! In-Reply-To: "Magnus Huckvale"'s message of "Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:05:44 -0000" References: Message-ID: "Magnus Huckvale" writes: > But er, yeah. How about Wednesday, 6pm? We'll bring the ducks. Sounds like a plan. There's a whole bunch of .com types in King's Court (blue-u and others). Are any of them on board? Also, what agencies kept pestering me for perl jobs in Bath? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire ----------------------------------------------------------------- From daveh at hodgkinson.org Mon Oct 30 06:39:04 2000 From: daveh at hodgkinson.org (David Hodgkinson) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: OFFTOPIC: RE: Willow is a Bath.pm-er! In-Reply-To: "Magnus Huckvale"'s message of "Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:05:44 -0000" References: Message-ID: "Magnus Huckvale" writes: > But er, yeah. How about Wednesday, 6pm? We'll bring the ducks. In the spirit of Grep, I have a copy of "Algorithms in Perl" donated by O'Reilly that I will NEVER get round to reading since the regexps book made my head hurt, so we could even make a little giveaway to a deserving cause... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire ----------------------------------------------------------------- From philip.newton at datenrevision.de Mon Oct 30 06:51:16 2000 From: philip.newton at datenrevision.de (Philip Newton) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: OFFTOPIC: RE: Willow is a Bath.pm-er! Message-ID: Magnus Huckvale wrote: > Please take this discussion elsewhere! Do you think this list is for > discussing Perl or something? Off topic discussion just causes people > interested in genuine Buffy/Willow perving to go elsewhere. Now you've got the idea :) Cheers, Philip From greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk Mon Oct 30 07:00:52 2000 From: greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk (Greg McCarroll) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: OFFTOPIC: RE: Willow is a Bath.pm-er! In-Reply-To: ; from daveh@hodgkinson.org on Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 12:39:04PM +0000 References: Message-ID: <20001030130052.A16037@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> * David Hodgkinson (daveh@hodgkinson.org) wrote: > "Magnus Huckvale" writes: > > > But er, yeah. How about Wednesday, 6pm? We'll bring the ducks. > > In the spirit of Grep, I have a copy of "Algorithms in Perl" donated > by O'Reilly that I will NEVER get round to reading since the regexps > book made my head hurt, so we could even make a little giveaway to a > deserving cause... > Please select which particular bit was in the spirt of grep ... [A] acquiring a book on the cheap [B] not getting round to reading all the books you intend to read [C] generously giving freebies to fellow mongers or [D] getting really drunk, getting high and then proposing we all fly to sunnydale naked gre[gp] -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net perl hacker | book collector | the very model of a modern mailing list kook London.pm - meetings held on the day after the first wednesday of the month From daveh at hodgkinson.org Mon Oct 30 07:11:52 2000 From: daveh at hodgkinson.org (David Hodgkinson) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: OFFTOPIC: RE: Willow is a Bath.pm-er! In-Reply-To: Greg McCarroll's message of "Mon, 30 Oct 2000 13:00:52 +0000" References: <20001030130052.A16037@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Greg McCarroll writes: > Please select which particular bit was in the spirt of grep ... > > [A] acquiring a book on the cheap > [B] not getting round to reading all the books you intend to read > [C] generously giving freebies to fellow mongers > > or > > [D] getting really drunk, getting high and then proposing we > all fly to sunnydale naked [E] Getting name recognition at the Apachcon wind-down emergency London.pm meet from no less than _five_ mod_perl luminuaries of the form of "Oh, so _you're that_ Dave Hodgkinson" and then having them back away slowly... Or all of the above. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire ----------------------------------------------------------------- From dha at panix.com Mon Oct 30 11:54:04 2000 From: dha at panix.com (David H. Adler) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: Willow is a Bath.pm-er! In-Reply-To: ; from philip.newton@datenrevision.de on Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 10:55:34AM +0100 References: Message-ID: <20001030125404.B6598@panix.com> On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 10:55:34AM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: > On 28 Oct 2000, at 13:42, David H. Adler wrote on london-list: > > > P.S. 8uffy. (making sure we're still on-topic... :-) > > While we're on the topic of 8uffy and Perl, I'd like to announce my latest > discovery: Willow is a Bath.pm-er! Details and incontrovertible evidence at > http://newton.digitalspace.net/willow-is-a-bath-pmer/ . So, I try to find this evidence and I get a message telling me it's unavailable. What is this, some kind of anti-american thing??? dha -- David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ It's not important how many people I've killed. What's important is how I get along with those who are still alive. - Jimmy "The Tulip" Tedeschi From philip.newton at datenrevision.de Mon Oct 30 12:21:14 2000 From: philip.newton at datenrevision.de (Philip Newton) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: Willow is a Bath.pm-er! Message-ID: David H. Adler wrote: > On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 10:55:34AM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: > > http://newton.digitalspace.net/willow-is-a-bath-pmer/ . > > So, I try to find this evidence and I get a message telling me it's > unavailable. What is this, some kind of anti-american thing??? No, more like some kind of flaky-webspace-provider-that-likes-to-go-offline-for-no-apparent-reason-but- it's-cheap thing. I apologise for the inconvenience. Please try again later. (Or get in touch with me if you think it's not the site's fault.) Cheers, Philip From dha at panix.com Mon Oct 30 12:57:51 2000 From: dha at panix.com (David H. Adler) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: Willow is a Bath.pm-er! In-Reply-To: ; from philip.newton@datenrevision.de on Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 07:21:14PM +0100 References: Message-ID: <20001030135751.C8496@panix.com> On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 07:21:14PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: > David H. Adler wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 10:55:34AM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: > > > http://newton.digitalspace.net/willow-is-a-bath-pmer/ . > > > > So, I try to find this evidence and I get a message telling me it's > > unavailable. What is this, some kind of anti-american thing??? > > No, more like some kind of > flaky-webspace-provider-that-likes-to-go-offline-for-no-apparent-reason-but- > it's-cheap thing. Ok, got through this time. Wow! We should get in touch and ask if she'd like to be our official cyber-babe! Especially if that means I get to take her home (being the closest to her, it would minimize wear and tear... :-). dha -- David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ You can't set a generic cow. - Randal L. Schwartz From greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk Mon Oct 30 17:26:46 2000 From: greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk (Greg McCarroll) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: Willow is a Bath.pm-er! In-Reply-To: <20001030135751.C8496@panix.com>; from dha@panix.com on Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 01:57:51PM -0500 References: <20001030135751.C8496@panix.com> Message-ID: <20001030232646.A18398@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> * David H. Adler (dha@panix.com) wrote: > > Ok, got through this time. Wow! We should get in touch and ask if > she'd like to be our official cyber-babe! Especially if that means I > get to take her home (being the closest to her, it would minimize wear > and tear... :-). > I don't think this would be fair, after all Dave Cross never let us take our camel (london.pm's mascot) home with us. -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net perl hacker | book collector | the very model of a modern mailing list kook London.pm - meetings held on the day after the first wednesday of the month From dha at panix.com Tue Oct 31 11:36:54 2000 From: dha at panix.com (David H. Adler) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: Willow is a Bath.pm-er! In-Reply-To: <20001030232646.A18398@mccarroll.demon.co.uk>; from greg@mccarroll.demon.co.uk on Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 11:26:46PM +0000 References: <20001030135751.C8496@panix.com> <20001030232646.A18398@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20001031123654.C16916@panix.com> On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 11:26:46PM +0000, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * David H. Adler (dha@panix.com) wrote: > > > > Ok, got through this time. Wow! We should get in touch and ask if > > she'd like to be our official cyber-babe! Especially if that means I > > get to take her home (being the closest to her, it would minimize wear > > and tear... :-). > > > > I don't think this would be fair, after all Dave Cross never let us > take our camel (london.pm's mascot) home with us. Tough. This is a *completely* different affair. :-) dha -- David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ "Life is so hard, you know that sometimes it seems the good guys only win, when the bad guys leave." - The Jim Basnight Thing From magnus at huckvale.net Tue Oct 31 11:55:21 2000 From: magnus at huckvale.net (Magnus Huckvale) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: Bath PM Meet (Was: Re: Willow is a Bath.pm-er!) References: Message-ID: <015b01c04363$bcf94550$26c0bcc3@noodle> > And talking of Bath.pm, how about a meet? I can drag a couple of > Sifties along, we have Netcraft and there are a bunch of other .com > type firms dotted around... Ok.. Will people be able to make tomorrow (Nov 1) or how about November 8? Drag any perl people you like along. Magnus From daveh at hodgkinson.org Tue Oct 31 11:55:46 2000 From: daveh at hodgkinson.org (David Hodgkinson) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: Meet Thursday? In-Reply-To: "David H. Adler"'s message of "Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:36:54 -0500" Message-ID: Just to bring things back on track, 6pm Hobgoblin, Thursday, Bath perlmongers meet. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire ----------------------------------------------------------------- From greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk Tue Oct 31 12:06:56 2000 From: greg at mccarroll.demon.co.uk (Greg McCarroll) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: Willow is a Bath.pm-er! In-Reply-To: <20001031123654.C16916@panix.com>; from dha@panix.com on Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 12:36:54PM -0500 References: <20001030135751.C8496@panix.com> <20001030232646.A18398@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001031123654.C16916@panix.com> Message-ID: <20001031180656.A22885@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> * David H. Adler (dha@panix.com) wrote: > On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 11:26:46PM +0000, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > * David H. Adler (dha@panix.com) wrote: > > > > > > Ok, got through this time. Wow! We should get in touch and ask if > > > she'd like to be our official cyber-babe! Especially if that means I > > > get to take her home (being the closest to her, it would minimize wear > > > and tear... :-). > > > > > > > I don't think this would be fair, after all Dave Cross never let us > > take our camel (london.pm's mascot) home with us. > > Tough. This is a *completely* different affair. :-) > one man's willow is another man's camel -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net perl hacker | book collector | the very model of a modern mailing list kook London.pm - meetings held on the day after the first wednesday of the month From daveh at hodgkinson.org Tue Oct 31 12:44:39 2000 From: daveh at hodgkinson.org (David Hodgkinson) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: Bath PM Meet (Was: Re: Willow is a Bath.pm-er!) In-Reply-To: "Magnus Huckvale"'s message of "Tue, 31 Oct 2000 17:55:21 -0000" References: <015b01c04363$bcf94550$26c0bcc3@noodle> Message-ID: "Magnus Huckvale" writes: > > And talking of Bath.pm, how about a meet? I can drag a couple of > > Sifties along, we have Netcraft and there are a bunch of other .com > > type firms dotted around... > > Ok.. Will people be able to make tomorrow (Nov 1) or how about November 8? I should be up for something... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire ----------------------------------------------------------------- From daveh at hodgkinson.org Tue Oct 31 12:45:12 2000 From: daveh at hodgkinson.org (David Hodgkinson) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: Meet Thursday? In-Reply-To: David Hodgkinson's message of "31 Oct 2000 17:55:46 +0000" References: Message-ID: David Hodgkinson writes: > Just to bring things back on track, 6pm Hobgoblin, Thursday, Bath > perlmongers meet. Or is that Wednesday? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire ----------------------------------------------------------------- From dha at panix.com Tue Oct 31 12:59:57 2000 From: dha at panix.com (David H. Adler) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: Willow is a Bath.pm-er! In-Reply-To: <20001031180656.A22885@mccarroll.demon.co.uk>; from greg@mccarroll.demon.co.uk on Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 06:06:56PM +0000 References: <20001030135751.C8496@panix.com> <20001030232646.A18398@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> <20001031123654.C16916@panix.com> <20001031180656.A22885@mccarroll.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <20001031135957.C21813@panix.com> On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 06:06:56PM +0000, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > one man's willow is another man's camel I'm telling her you said that... -- David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ People don't buy our products because they want a 1/2 inch drill, they buy our products because they want a 1/2 inch hole. - reportedly, some exec at Black and Decker From daveh at hodgkinson.org Tue Oct 31 13:32:00 2000 From: daveh at hodgkinson.org (David Hodgkinson) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: Meet Thursday? In-Reply-To: Peter Berlin's message of "Tue, 31 Oct 2000 19:19:44 +0000 (GMT)" References: Message-ID: Peter Berlin writes: > Magnus said 1 Nov, which is Wednesday. We always used to meet on a > Wednesday - does this suit people? Yes, fine, my fault, London.pm fixation. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire ----------------------------------------------------------------- From magnus at huckvale.net Tue Oct 31 13:46:48 2000 From: magnus at huckvale.net (Magnus Huckvale) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: Meet Thursday? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: are Thursdays generally better for you? Magnus > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-bath-pm-list@pm.org [mailto:owner-bath-pm-list@pm.org]On > Behalf Of David Hodgkinson > Sent: 31 October 2000 18:45 > To: bath-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: Re: Meet Thursday? > > > David Hodgkinson writes: > > > Just to bring things back on track, 6pm Hobgoblin, Thursday, Bath > > perlmongers meet. > > Or is that Wednesday? > > > -- > Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org > Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com > Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire > ----------------------------------------------------------------- From magnus at huckvale.net Tue Oct 31 13:52:08 2000 From: magnus at huckvale.net (Magnus Huckvale) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: Meet Thursday? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: so how about next Wednesday 8 November? > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-bath-pm-list@pm.org [mailto:owner-bath-pm-list@pm.org]On > Behalf Of David Hodgkinson > Sent: 31 October 2000 19:32 > To: Peter Berlin > Cc: bath-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: Re: Meet Thursday? > > > Peter Berlin writes: > > > Magnus said 1 Nov, which is Wednesday. We always used to meet on a > > Wednesday - does this suit people? > > Yes, fine, my fault, London.pm fixation. > > -- > Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org > Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com > Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire > ----------------------------------------------------------------- From daveh at hodgkinson.org Tue Oct 31 13:57:28 2000 From: daveh at hodgkinson.org (David Hodgkinson) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: Meet Thursday? In-Reply-To: "Magnus Huckvale"'s message of "Tue, 31 Oct 2000 19:46:48 -0000" References: Message-ID: "Magnus Huckvale" writes: > are Thursdays generally better for you? Wednesday is good :-) -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire ----------------------------------------------------------------- From daveh at hodgkinson.org Tue Oct 31 14:39:13 2000 From: daveh at hodgkinson.org (David Hodgkinson) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: Meet Thursday? In-Reply-To: "Magnus Huckvale"'s message of "Tue, 31 Oct 2000 19:52:08 -0000" References: Message-ID: "Magnus Huckvale" writes: > so how about next Wednesday 8 November? What's wrong with THIS Wednesday???? -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire ----------------------------------------------------------------- From magnus at huckvale.net Tue Oct 31 14:59:10 2000 From: magnus at huckvale.net (Magnus Huckvale) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:40 2004 Subject: Meet Thursday? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > What's wrong with THIS Wednesday???? It's French. From daveh at hodgkinson.org Tue Oct 31 15:38:27 2000 From: daveh at hodgkinson.org (David Hodgkinson) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:41 2004 Subject: Meet Thursday? In-Reply-To: "Magnus Huckvale"'s message of "Tue, 31 Oct 2000 20:59:10 -0000" References: Message-ID: "Magnus Huckvale" writes: > > What's wrong with THIS Wednesday???? > > It's French. I like the French. It gives people someone (else) to hate. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Apache, mod_perl, MySQL, Sybase hired gun for, well, hire -----------------------------------------------------------------