From billy at cowfish.org.uk Mon Feb 25 08:48:03 2008 From: billy at cowfish.org.uk (Billy Abbott) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:48:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Banking-pm] What does your development environment look like? In-Reply-To: <2FD3DC6D368405449B24E3229F8C6792354D36@DLZEX030.bgb.de> References: <2FD3DC6D368405449B24E3229F8C6792354D36@DLZEX030.bgb.de> Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, Bower, Martin (LBB-LO) wrote: > We use eXceed to provide xterm onto a windows desktop, as our servers > are also not in the UK. > Once there, I've pretty much used vi from day 1. I used to use exceed but switched over to the cygwin X server in the last couple of years, as it seemed to run a bit nicer with DECWindows and multiple monitors. Our standard environment is vi or emacs running from remote VMS and unix boxes. A few people use ultraedit on their windows machines with the remote file loading/saving stuff turned on, which is especially nice on connections over the internet where latency turns X into a pile of evil. > On Windows I run Eclipse with EPIC, and also MyEclipse for java stuff. > wxGlade and wxPerl have also been very useful to build applications with > Perlapp. On windows we seem to use Visual Studio for non-java things and some kind of eclipsey thing for Java devel (I don't do much on that side and don't know exactly - I used emacs for VMS side java devel the last time I played outside of perl and c++...). > I've got quite a lot of latitude, if you've got a good reason to use a > piece of software, why would that request be turned down ? (I'm > interested here in who would turn you down, and for what reasons) I've recently been investigating different environments to try and give people a choice of what they'd like to use (as it seems that not everyone is an emacs user these days...which is bad and wrong :). Apart from ultraedit I've played with Komodo (and use the simple editor at home to hack on perl) but haven't found any other windows apps which do nice ftp-style file saving a la ultraedit to allow local editing of remote files. As for reasons for software being refused, I've not yet been refused. Common reasons I've been anticipating (but haven't hit due to generally lovely employers) are cost, similarity to other products already available inhouse, security issues, issues with keeping the software up to date, and simple "emacs vs vi" style holy wars. The keeping up to date of packages seems to be a big issues at many companies, if users of my company's software are anything to go by. Any recommendations for windows side environments? Remote editing of files, syntax highlighting and general prettiness all good points. Ease of use by non-programmers yet another. --billy From alex at owal.co.uk Wed Feb 27 01:34:31 2008 From: alex at owal.co.uk (alex at owal.co.uk) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:34:31 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [Banking-pm] Liverpool Street Walk? Message-ID: <29374.193.26.4.35.1204104871.squirrel@www.sflink.net> Does anyone fancy meeting up one day near Liverpool Street for a lunchtime walk? Alex