<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">To be clear: <a href="http://irc.perl.org">irc.perl.org</a> is the network<div><br><div><div>On Jun 28, 2013, at 7:21 AM, Chankey Pathak <<a href="mailto:chankey007@gmail.com">chankey007@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Join us on #<a href="http://delhi.pm/">delhi.pm</a>, #<a href="http://bangalore.pm/">bangalore.pm</a> and #<a href="http://perl.in/">perl.in</a> :)</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:41 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kanishka.black0@gmail.com" target="_blank">kanishka.black0@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>woooh,<div>Man in can't believe that perlite community is picking pace.</div><div>Publish the irc details. </div><div>Deal me in people</div><div>Good day</div><div><hr><div><strong>From:</strong> "<a href="mailto:bangalore-pm-request@pm.org" target="_blank">bangalore-pm-request@pm.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:bangalore-pm-request@pm.org" target="_blank">bangalore-pm-request@pm.org</a>><br>
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Requesting help in improving Yoda (Mithun Radhakrishnan)
2. Re: T-shirt Captions (Mithun Radhakrishnan)
3. Re: Requesting help in improving Yoda (Upasana Shukla)
4. Re: Requesting help in improving Yoda (Ya'akov Sloman)
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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 11:42:17 +0530
From: Mithun Radhakrishnan <u></u>
To: Saravanan T <u></u>, "Bangalore.pm"
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Cc: "<a href="mailto:me@upasana.me" target="_blank">me@upasana.me</a>" <u></u>
Subject: Re: [Bangalore-pm] Requesting help in improving Yoda
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Upasana-
I am also interested.
Can we have a IRC and discuss about how to start on this.
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Mithun
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Saravanan T <u></u>wrote:
> +1
>
> Upasana : Can you guide us.
>
> ~Saran
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Jagadeesh N. Malakannavar <u></u>
> *To:* Bangalore.pm <u></u>
> *Sent:* Friday, June 28, 2013 8:15 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Bangalore-pm] Requesting help in improving Yoda
>
> Hi Shantanu,
>
> I volunteer myself to maintain Yoda. Let me know how to proceed.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Shantanu Bhadoria <u></u>wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
> Yoda bot needs some urgent improvements and while I thought I would have
> enough time to work on it before, due to commitments elsewhere I am unable
> to give sufficient time to our old chat bot and I would like to invite
> tsomeone interested among you guys to become the maintainer. While the
> whole code is quiet short and self explanatory, if you don't have
> experience with POE or any module it uses, I would be happy to guide you
> through it.
> Mail me your github handle if you would like to help our chat bot evolve
> into a smarter and more helpful tool.
> Thanks,
> -Shantanu Bhadoria
>
>
> What it does:
> * Greets people when they come online
> * Stores and plays information on upcoming meetups
> * Gives other standard info on <a href="http://bangalore.pm/" target="_blank">bangalore.pm</a>
> * Talks when someone says yoda in the channel
> * Bids goodbyes to those leaving the channel
>
> Targeted features/fixes:
> * Answering machine: Store messages for offline nicks and play them when
> he/she come online
> * Do not greet someone more than once a day
> * provide module information from cpan when asked for it.
> * Fix complaints from IRC channel users.
>
> We are still looking for ideas on useful stuff yoda might be able to do in
> the chatroom like lookup cpan or modules etc.
>
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> Thanks,
> Jagadeesh N.Malakannavar
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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 11:57:35 +0530
From: Mithun Radhakrishnan <u></u>
To: "Bangalore.pm" <u></u>
Subject: Re: [Bangalore-pm] T-shirt Captions
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Hi All,
I was searching for Perl logos. Came to know there will be trademark issues
if use the already available logos in internet if we target for more number
of prints.
<a href="http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/oreilly/perl/usage/faq.html" target="_blank">http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/oreilly/perl/usage/faq.html</a>
*Q: I want to design a T-shirt with the Perl camel on it. Do I need to get
your permission?*
*A:* Yes. But we're willing to make allowances for those of you who have
creative ideas and want to do something fun for your friends. So, if the
lifetime print run of the T-shirt design is less than 100, you may consider
permission automatically granted. For larger print runs, please ask first.
We promise to answer quickly!
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Mithun
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Vishwanath M S <u></u>wrote:
> Yo,
>
> Siimple and sweet:
> <a href="https://wiki.gogrid.com/wiki/images/5/5a/Perl.gif" target="_blank">https://wiki.gogrid.com/wiki/images/5/5a/Perl.gif</a>
>
> One more,
> <a href="http://www.sppn.nl/images/prp.png" target="_blank">http://www.sppn.nl/images/prp.png</a>
>
> Cheers,
> _visu
>
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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 16:16:09 +0530
From: Upasana Shukla <u></u>
To: Saravanan T <u></u>
Cc: "Bangalore.pm" <u></u>
Subject: Re: [Bangalore-pm] Requesting help in improving Yoda
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On Friday 28 June 2013 10:53 AM, Saravanan T wrote:
> +1
>
> Upasana : Can you guide us.
>
> ~Saran
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Jagadeesh N. Malakannavar <u></u>
> *To:* Bangalore.pm <u></u>
> *Sent:* Friday, June 28, 2013 8:15 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Bangalore-pm] Requesting help in improving Yoda
>
> Hi Shantanu,
>
> I volunteer myself to maintain Yoda. Let me know how to proceed.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Shantanu Bhadoria <u></u> <u></u>> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
> Yoda bot needs some urgent improvements and while I thought I would
> have enough time to work on it before, due to commitments elsewhere
> I am unable to give sufficient time to our old chat bot and I would
> like to invite tsomeone interested among you guys to become the
> maintainer. While the whole code is quiet short and self
> explanatory, if you don't have experience with POE or any module it
> uses, I would be happy to guide you through it.
> Mail me your github handle if you would like to help our chat bot
> evolve into a smarter and more helpful tool.
> Thanks,
> -Shantanu Bhadoria
>
>
> What it does:
> * Greets people when they come online
In my opinion, this may become annoying. I've seen a bot on #dancer, it
greets people when they login to IRC via webchat and tell them that they
can change their nick using /nick xyz, greeting every user when he/she
comes online is not a good idea. We can mention about yoda bot in the
/topic though.
> * Stores and plays information on upcoming meetups
> * Gives other standard info on <a href="http://bangalore.pm/" target="_blank">bangalore.pm</a> <u></u>
> * Talks when someone says yoda in the channel
Sounds good to me :)
> * Bids goodbyes to those leaving the channel
>
This is also not a good idea imo.
> Targeted features/fixes:
> * Answering machine: Store messages for offline nicks and play them
> when he/she come online
I think for this, we should do something for logging IRC conversations,
instead of relying on a bot.
> * Do not greet someone more than once a day
> * provide module information from cpan when asked for it.
Hmm, CPAN search is enough for this, imo.
> * Fix complaints from IRC channel users.
>
yes, this is a good feature.
> We are still looking for ideas on useful stuff yoda might be able to
> do in the chatroom like lookup cpan or modules etc.
>
My ideas:
1. Bot should +o some users, though Bender bot is already doing this job :)
2. Changing the /TOPIC, giving information about upcoming meetup
3. Some commands for admins, so that they can change information about
meetups etc.
For those who're interested in contributing to yoda, should fork this
repository:
<a href="https://github.com/Bangalore-Perl-Mongers/PerlMongers-Bangalore-Yoda" target="_blank">https://github.com/Bangalore-Perl-Mongers/PerlMongers-Bangalore-Yoda</a> .
But at the same time, I think not more than two people should work on
it, because it's not so much of work :).
These are just my ideas/suggestions, please feel free to discuss yours.
If you don't agree with my ideas, even then it's perfectly fine :). I'm
not contributing to yoda, as I've other commitments atm.
Thanks.
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>
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
> Jagadeesh N.Malakannavar
>
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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 07:00:43 -0400
From: "Ya'akov Sloman" <u></u>
To: "Bangalore.pm" <u></u>
Subject: Re: [Bangalore-pm] Requesting help in improving Yoda
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On Jun 28, 2013, at 6:46 AM, Upasana Shukla <u></u> wrote:
> On Friday 28 June 2013 10:53 AM, Saravanan T wrote:
>>
>> What it does:
>> * Greets people when they come online
> In my opinion, this may become annoying. I've seen a bot on #dancer, it
> greets people when they login to IRC via webchat and tell them that they
> can change their nick using /nick xyz, greeting every user when he/she
> comes online is not a good idea. We can mention about yoda bot in the
> /topic though.
>
This can be done intelligently. It can be conditional:
The nick is a Mibbit-generated random nick, or;
The user hasn't been seen before, or;
There is important news since the last time the user was seen.
It should also be done with NOTICE to the user not PRIVMSG to the channel, which is actually how the RFC suggests it be done to avoid interaction loops among bots. Bots should speak in NOTICE and ignore NOTICE to the channel.
If these things are followed, it should limit the annoyance while providing some service to the channel.
>> * Stores and plays information on upcoming meetups
>> * Gives other standard info on <a href="http://bangalore.pm/" target="_blank">bangalore.pm</a> <u></u>
>> * Talks when someone says yoda in the channel
> Sounds good to me :)
>> * Bids goodbyes to those leaving the channel
>>
> This is also not a good idea imo.
This does seem to just be noise. However, in the same domain as greeting and saying goodbye, a "seen" function which allows someone to query the bot about the last time a particular nick was seen is a useful service.
>> Targeted features/fixes:
>> * Answering machine: Store messages for offline nicks and play them
>> when he/she come online
> I think for this, we should do something for logging IRC conversations,
> instead of relying on a bot.
Messages are a common feature of IRC bots. It can work something like:
<u></u> Yoda: tell sweet_kid that I need to talk to her when she is around.
<u></u> OK, Yaakov, I will tell sweet_kid "Yaakov says, 'I need to talk to you when you are around'"
<u></u> Thanks, Yoda.
<u></u> You're welcome.
(Later)
* sweet_kid joins #<a href="http://perl.in/" target="_blank">perl.in</a>
<u></u> Hello everyone!
<u></u> Yaakov says, 'I need to talk to you when you are around'
Etc.
Notice that I did some conversion of pronouns, that is sophisticated but nice. It's a refinement, not required but clever.
>
>> * Do not greet someone more than once a day
>> * provide module information from cpan when asked for it.
> Hmm, CPAN search is enough for this, imo.
There are bots that announce new module uploads and can tell what is in the core. These are nice for technical help channels, but I am not sure if it is needed in the PM channels. It can be written as a module and used if it is useful. Other useful things are weather and time. These are all add-ons, though.
>> * Fix complaints from IRC channel users.
>>
> yes, this is a good feature.
>> We are still looking for ideas on useful stuff yoda might be able to
>> do in the chatroom like lookup cpan or modules etc.
>>
> My ideas:
> 1. Bot should +o some users, though Bender bot is already doing this job :)
> 2. Changing the /TOPIC, giving information about upcoming meetup
> 3. Some commands for admins, so that they can change information about
> meetups etc.
This is "channel management", and it is a good idea to have a solid channel management feature set. Bender can be removed or act as a backup.
>
> For those who're interested in contributing to yoda, should fork this
> repository:
> <a href="https://github.com/Bangalore-Perl-Mongers/PerlMongers-Bangalore-Yoda" target="_blank">https://github.com/Bangalore-Perl-Mongers/PerlMongers-Bangalore-Yoda</a> .
> But at the same time, I think not more than two people should work on
> it, because it's not so much of work :).
>
> These are just my ideas/suggestions, please feel free to discuss yours.
> If you don't agree with my ideas, even then it's perfectly fine :). I'm
> not contributing to yoda, as I've other commitments atm.
>
> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jagadeesh N.Malakannavar
>>
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>
>
> --
> Upasana
>
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