From sandoz at umbc.edu Sat Jan 1 05:43:32 2000 From: sandoz at umbc.edu (James W. Sandoz; (BIO;FAC)) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:21 2004 Subject: BPM Meeting In-Reply-To: <118798B53B86D211A66400805F9F24046E0FD7@SYSCOMEX> Message-ID: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20000101/aponline013722_000.htm Headline: "Nation's Timekeeper Says It's 19100" Looks like the US Naval Observatory used a similar script. Mr. James W. Sandoz, Instructor, UMBC Dept of Biol Sciences, 1000 Hilltop Circle Catonsville, MD 21250 voice: (410) 455-3497; fax: 455-3875; net: sandoz@umbc.edu From lyang1 at triton.towson.edu Sat Jan 1 22:45:32 2000 From: lyang1 at triton.towson.edu (Liancheng Yang) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:21 2004 Subject: BPM Meeting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Is this the second y2k bug report? But It is delayed to me to heared it. Thanks. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Liancheng(lindsey) Yang * * lianchengy@yahoo.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, James W. Sandoz; (BIO;FAC) wrote: > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20000101/aponline013722_000.htm > > Headline: "Nation's Timekeeper Says It's 19100" > > Looks like the US Naval Observatory used a similar script. > > Mr. James W. Sandoz, Instructor, UMBC Dept of Biol Sciences, > 1000 Hilltop Circle > Catonsville, MD 21250 > voice: (410) 455-3497; fax: 455-3875; net: sandoz@umbc.edu > From tvanderhoof at syscom-inc.com Tue Jan 4 09:57:22 2000 From: tvanderhoof at syscom-inc.com (Vanderhoof, Tzadik) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:21 2004 Subject: BPM Meeting Message-ID: <118798B53B86D211A66400805F9F24046E102E@SYSCOMEX> I also saw a few 19100's in my Y2K surfing, the first one being at an Australian site right after they rolled over. Sadly, just about all of these were probably Perl scripts. 19100 is a classic case of the results of a hack job, where you just keep making changes until the program seems to work, without understanding what you're doing, and certainly without looking at the documentation. A pretty sorry way to program IMHO, Perl or no Perl, Y2K or no Y2K. On the flip side, though, I think the way Unix "localtime" returns the year, while technically Y2K compliant, was designed in a way that begs to be abused. If Larry Wall had really been a Y2K zealot he could have conceivably made Perl's "localtime" incompatible with the Unix version and return a 4-digit year, thus pre-empting the 19100 problem. But I can see why Larry wouldn't want to introduce a confusing incompatibility into Perl, just to prevent one type of mistake, especially considering that the type of bumbling programmers that make that mistake are probably making a whole lot of other mistakes, which can't be pre-empted so simply. The people who designed Unix, on the other hand, could have been more forward-thinking in their design. -----Original Message----- From: James W. Sandoz; (BIO;FAC) [mailto:sandoz@umbc.edu] Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2000 6:44 AM To: Vanderhoof, Tzadik Cc: 'baltimore-pm-list@hfb.pm.org' Subject: RE: BPM Meeting http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20000101/aponline013722_000.ht m Headline: "Nation's Timekeeper Says It's 19100" Looks like the US Naval Observatory used a similar script. Mr. James W. Sandoz, Instructor, UMBC Dept of Biol Sciences, 1000 Hilltop Circle Catonsville, MD 21250 voice: (410) 455-3497; fax: 455-3875; net: sandoz@umbc.edu From Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us Tue Jan 4 12:58:00 2000 From: Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us (Manning, Rob) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:21 2004 Subject: BPM Meeting TONIGHT Message-ID: <118CFE9A2035D111AE7B0060081C7513619E8B@finance.ci.baltimore.md.us> Just a reminder that the Baltimore Perl Mongers will meet 7:00 p.m. tonight at the Community of Science office building (for directions see http://www.cos.com/directions.shtml) David Waldo accompanied by a few of his colleagues from COS will present the public domain perl module HTML::Embperl. Embperl is a nifty extension that allows you to embed perl code directly in your HTML files that will be executed dynamically when the server receives a request for that page (Somewhat like other popular techniques such as JSP, ASP and the like.) Hope to see you there. Rob Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net Principal Analyst Work (410) 396-4963 TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 -- Looking for a Perl user's group in Baltimore? - http://baltimore.pm.org From Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us Wed Jan 19 09:20:25 2000 From: Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us (Manning, Rob) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:21 2004 Subject: BPM Meeting - Feb. 1 Message-ID: <118CFE9A2035D111AE7B0060081C7513619EA7@finance.ci.baltimore.md.us> Just a reminder that the next meeting of the Baltimore Perl Mongers will be held at 7:00 p.m. on Feb. 1 at the Community of Science office building (for directions see http://www.cos.com/directions.shtml) This month I'll be demonstrating the use of ActiveState's visual Perl debugger. This is a visual tool to aid in identifying the root cause when you run into problems with Perl scripts. Since this tool is currently only available on the Win32 platform, I'm hoping someone will step forward to show us the GNU analog (Perl/pdb/emacs, Perl/Tk equivalent, etc...). I think the group would benefit from seeing what is available in the public domain as well. If anyone would be interested in doing this for the March 7th meeting please send me email. (We'll also need to arrange for someone to bring in a laptop running Linux/UNIX - send me email if you're interested giving this demo or letting someone give this demo on your laptop). We'll have books to give away, and time for chat after the presentation. I hope to see your there! Rob Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net Principal Analyst Work (410) 396-4963 TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 -- Looking for a Perl user's group in Baltimore? - http://baltimore.pm.org From Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us Thu Jan 20 12:01:44 2000 From: Rob_Manning at mail.ci.baltimore.md.us (Manning, Rob) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:21 2004 Subject: BPM Meeting - March 7 Message-ID: <118CFE9A2035D111AE7B0060081C7513619EAE@finance.ci.baltimore.md.us> Dave Waldo just informed me that Muhammad - also from COS - has a laptop configured with Linux that is available to host a demo of the public domain tools for debugging Perl scripts on Linux. Now all we need is a volunteer ( We can postpone it to some future meeting if you'd like to volunteer but won't be available on March 1) Although he may not be present, Dave has arranged with some co-workers for us to meet as usual on Feb. 1. Hope to see you there! Rob Rob Manning manningr@tcsnet.net Principal Analyst Work (410) 396-4963 TeleCommunication Systems Fax (410) 837-0546 -- Looking for a Perl user's group in Baltimore? - http://baltimore.pm.org From mmweave1 at impop.bellatlantic.net Fri Jan 28 11:36:33 2000 From: mmweave1 at impop.bellatlantic.net (Mark and Mary beth) Date: Wed Aug 4 23:57:21 2004 Subject: perl dbm Message-ID: <3891D3A1.EF1A1811@mailbox.bellatlantic.net> Any idea where I can find some online help with perl DBM. I have not used it, but want to learn it. I have programmed a lot in perl with cgi and tcl. Mark W. -- Mark and Mary Beth Weaver mmweave1@bellatlantic.net mjweave@usa.net fax: 1-760-280-9429 http://members.bellatlantic.net/~mmweave1/index.html *************************************** The time travel committee will meet at 1200 hours 15 Aug 98. Please be on time. If you are late, come back earlier. ***************************************