Taylor Carpenter++<div><br></div><div>A shorter presentation format has several advantages, not the least of which is encouraging presenters to use their time wisely. When all you have is 30 minutes, that time is precious. It tends to help avoid presentations that bog down in minutiae or simplistic tutorials.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I suspect some presentations will need to take longer, though, and I think that's OK. Deep dives are fun, and often more illuminating when dealing with the more esoteric aspects of our craft. I firmly believe what we do is more art than science.</div>
<div><br></div><div>On the project side, I think a project would be a fantastic idea. However, I would prefer that it be done on the side, with meetings before/after the PM meeting, or on another day. A project can largely be done remote, with quick hacking sessions to do tutoring, brainstorming, and breaking through roadblocks.</div>
<div><br></div><div>In regards to what the project is, I'll echo discomfort around the idea of working on something that will be used commercially*. That sounds ripe for a conflict of interests. That said, I was NOT at the meeting this week, and i don't feel i can speak to the proposal on the table. Consider these general thoughts.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Great discussion, guys, keep it up.</div><div><br></div><div>All the best,</div><div>Chris</div><div><br></div><div>* An open source project which could be picked up for commercial use I have no issue with (see: perl).</div>
<div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Jeremy Fluhmann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fluhmann@gmail.com" target="_blank">fluhmann@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Taylor Carpenter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:taylor@codecafe.com" target="_blank">taylor@codecafe.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>A project/coding-interactive focused meetup group is an interesting idea.</div><div><br></div><div>I suggest having a spin-off meeting that allows people who are interested in the project to attend those meetings. This could be a single on-going project, or a hack meetup to work on several projects of interest.... </div>
<div><br></div>For the actual PM meetup itself, IMO, it should keep a broad focus in general -- even if we have talks about a specific topic. Otherwise the group will alienate everyone who is not interested in the current topic. Personally I prefer 2 or 3 talks at a meeting that are short, so that everyone has a chance of at least one topic being presented of interest. Giving some time for people to ask questions, bring up problems they are working on, and chat in general is also good.<div>
<div><br></div></div><div>Zombies and Perl as well as well as problems solved with Perl for the Trello Bot project are examples of short talks I would be happy to see at future PM meetings.</div><div><br></div><div>BTW, adding an additional hour at the end of the current PM meeting to allow people to hang out and hack would be fine as well. Anyone uninterested in the project can leave after the meeting.</div>
</blockquote><div><br></div></div></div><div>+1 </div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Jeremy</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">-- </span><br style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">
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