From william.braswell at autoparallel.com Fri Jun 6 21:00:18 2014 From: william.braswell at autoparallel.com (William N. Braswell, Jr.) Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2014 23:00:18 -0500 Subject: APM: Meeting This Tuesday, June 10th, 6:30pm In-Reply-To: <20140606220953.6C0D1C00A8@smtp.hushmail.com> Message-ID: <20140607040018.864FC601E6@smtp.hushmail.com> Howdy Mongers, Welcome to summer! We will hold our sole June meeting this coming Tuesday the 10th, starting at 6:30pm, at the HostGator offices: 2500 Ridgepoint Drive, Austin, TX, United States As usual, refreshments will be provided by our gracious sponsor, HostGator! We do not currently have a specific topic or speaker for this meeting, do we have any ideas or volunteers? Thanks! Perling,~ Will the Chill, Austin.pm Prez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I haven?t done anything with Catalyst in over a year, the last thing I did was write some tutorials: http://blogs.perl.org/mt/mt-search.fcgi?limit=20&search=j0e My girlfriends teenage nephew is a photoshop junky who has dabbled with Python. This kid will stand in front of me and talk non-stop technology without taking a breath, kind of reminds me of Matt Trout except his breath doesn?t stink from a hangover. Anyway, I?ve been waiting to be asked back over for dinner so that I might invite him and his dad to come to a Mongers meeting if he might be interested in learning a little Perl and help with austin.pm. It?s crazy thinking but there you go. If nothing else, maybe we can talk on Tuesday about what if anything we want to do together. j0e [cid:austinn111114fa06] ________________________________ Joe Axford Software Engineer - Clinicals Maintenance NEXTGEN HEALTHCARE Solutions for: Ambulatory, Inpatient and Community Connectivity 12301-B Riata Trace Pkwy., Suite 200, Austin, TX 78727 (512) 904-4769 x64769 [o] jaxford at nextgen.com NOTICE: This email and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential or proprietary information and are intended solely for authorized use by the intended recipient(s) only. Any other use of this email is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, you are hereby notified that any retention, disclosure, copying, forwarding, distribution (in whole or in part and whether electronically, written and/or orally) and/or taking of any action in reliance on this email, its contents and/or any attachments thereto is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and permanently delete this email, and any attachments thereto, from your system immediately. From: Austin [mailto:austin-bounces+jaxford=nextgen.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of William N. Braswell, Jr. Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 11:00 PM To: Austin Perl Mongers Subject: APM: Meeting This Tuesday, June 10th, 6:30pm Howdy Mongers, Welcome to summer! We will hold our sole June meeting this coming Tuesday the 10th, starting at 6:30pm, at the HostGator offices: 2500 Ridgepoint Drive, Austin, TX, United States As usual, refreshments will be provided by our gracious sponsor, HostGator! We do not currently have a specific topic or speaker for this meeting, do we have any ideas or volunteers? Thanks! Perling, ~ Will the Chill, Austin.pm Prez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This will be the primary topic for discussion tonight. See you there! Perling,~ Will the Chill, Austin.pm Prez William Norman Braswell, Jr. CEO & President; Auto-Parallel Technologies, Inc. william.braswell at autoparallel.com 512.563.7984 This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized use or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From william.braswell at autoparallel.com Tue Jun 10 20:33:20 2014 From: william.braswell at autoparallel.com (William N. Braswell, Jr.) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 22:33:20 -0500 Subject: APM: Meeting Minutes, Mascot, New Catalyst Website In-Reply-To: References: <20140603013917.BCFD9C07D8@smtp.hushmail.com> <20140603042037.BFD8E205E7@smtp.hushmail.com> <20140603044326.3FC43C04B3@smtp.hushmail.com> <20140604003512.D5D7220388@smtp.hushmail.com> <20140606044631.6E667601E6@smtp.hushmail.com> <20140606102932.E8390601E6@smtp.hushmail.com> <20140606161139.B950D601E6@smtp.hushmail.com> <20140610170745.DC82820185@smtp.hushmail.com> Message-ID: <20140611033320.DF9C620185@smtp.hushmail.com> Howdy Mongers, We had a very productive meeting tonight, thanks to Joe Axford stepping forth as our new Catalyst website re-design team leader, to be assisted by a number of us helpful Austin Perl Mongers. We will use (of course) Linux / Perl on the back-end, Catalyst / Template::Toolkit as the middle-ware, and Foundation / JQuery / Javascript on the front-end, for a fully-featured modern and responsive website. WOWZA! Our straw-man general plan is available on our handy-dandy Trello to-do list: https://trello.com/b/fyNhcgzd/austin-pm-website We have debated for months and tonight we finally voted upon an official Austin Perl Mongers mascot... THE BARTON SPRINGS SALAMANDER! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barton_Springs_salamander We want to anthropomorphize the animal like our sponsor HostGator's "Snappy the Gator" mascot. We've had several possible ideas including a hipster or hippie salamander, all the way through a "proper british salamander with a top-hat, monocle, and cane with a big pearl on top". So we'll let the artists create some prototypes and see what we come up with? "Sir Barton P. MacSalamander the Third, Of Austin Springs, at your service my good lady" We also got some radical new Perl t-shirts thanks to HostGator and our main man X! Hey X, can you please send out some photos of the new shirts? AAAAAND last but not least, we've decided to debate and eventually choose an official Austin.pm FLAGSHIP SOFTWARE PROJECT to be hosted on CPAN. We have no idea what this might be, and we're pretty much open to anything that will have a real positive impact on the Perl community. It could be an important upgrade to an existing CPAN distribution, or it could be a totally new CPAN project that we come up with from scratch. Let's all pitch in and make a difference, let's put Austin.pm on the maps! So, who has ideas for projects, website, graphics, etc? Perling,~ Will the Chill, Austin.pm Prez William Norman Braswell, Jr. CEO & President; Auto-Parallel Technologies, Inc. william.braswell at autoparallel.com 512.563.7984 This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized use or disclosure is prohibited. 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I've been trying to get cycles to help since finding out about it from last years YAPC talk he gave (though I must admit I've not been able to do much actual help to date). http://www.frdcsa.org ---- "William N. Braswell wrote: > Howdy Mongers, > We had a very productive meeting tonight, thanks to Joe Axford > stepping forth as our new Catalyst website re-design team leader, to > be assisted by a number of us helpful Austin Perl Mongers. We will > use (of course) Linux / Perl on the back-end, Catalyst / > Template::Toolkit as the middle-ware, and Foundation / JQuery / > Javascript on the front-end, for a fully-featured modern and > responsive website. WOWZA! > Our straw-man general plan is available on our handy-dandy Trello > to-do list: > https://trello.com/b/fyNhcgzd/austin-pm-website > We have debated for months and tonight we finally voted upon an > official Austin Perl Mongers mascot... > > THE BARTON SPRINGS SALAMANDER! > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barton_Springs_salamander > We want to anthropomorphize the animal like our sponsor HostGator's > "Snappy the Gator" mascot. We've had several possible ideas including > a hipster or hippie salamander, all the way through a "proper british > salamander with a top-hat, monocle, and cane with a big pearl on top". > So we'll let the artists create some prototypes and see what we come > up with? "Sir Barton P. MacSalamander the Third, Of Austin Springs, > at your service my good lady" > We also got some radical new Perl t-shirts thanks to HostGator and our > main man X! Hey X, can you please send out some photos of the new > shirts? > AAAAAND last but not least, we've decided to debate and eventually > choose an official Austin.pm FLAGSHIP SOFTWARE PROJECT to be hosted on > CPAN. We have no idea what this might be, and we're pretty much open > to anything that will have a real positive impact on the Perl > community. It could be an important upgrade to an existing CPAN > distribution, or it could be a totally new CPAN project that we come > up with from scratch. Let's all pitch in and make a difference, let's > put Austin.pm on the maps! > So, who has ideas for projects, website, graphics, etc? > Perling,~ Will the Chill, Austin.pm Prez > > William Norman Braswell, Jr. > CEO & President; Auto-Parallel Technologies, Inc. > william.braswell at autoparallel.com > 512.563.7984 > This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) > and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any > unauthorized use or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and > destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you. -- -- -- -- Venimus, Vidimus, Dolavimus jameschoate at austin.rr.com jchoate at confusionresearchcenter.org ravage at ssz.com h: 512-657-1279 Adapt, Adopt, Improvise -- -- -- -- From william.braswell at autoparallel.com Wed Jun 11 20:04:48 2014 From: william.braswell at autoparallel.com (William N. Braswell, Jr.) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 22:04:48 -0500 Subject: APM: Possible New Austin.pm Software Projects In-Reply-To: <20140611123723.SRSQ9.104699.root@dnvrco-web13> References: <20140611033320.DF9C620185@smtp.hushmail.com> <20140611123723.SRSQ9.104699.root@dnvrco-web13> Message-ID: <20140612030448.CDE2720185@smtp.hushmail.com> Good idea, Mr. Choate. Mr. Dougherty, will you please reply to the mailing list with a brief explanation of your Perl project? Thanks! Perling,~ Will the Chill, Austin.pm Prez On 6/11/2014 at 7:37 AM, jameschoate at austin.rr.com wrote:With regard to projects, I'd like to propose somebody in authority speak with Andrew Dougherty w/ FRDCSA. He has a large collection of Perl he's been working on for the last several years related to ML and such topics. He's trying to get help organizing and building some support to get them into a real production status. I've included Andrew in CC. I've been trying to get cycles to help since finding out about it from last years YAPC talk he gave (though I must admit I've not been able to do much actual help to date). http://www.frdcsa.org ---- "William N. Braswell wrote: > Howdy Mongers, > We had a very productive meeting tonight, thanks to Joe Axford > stepping forth as our new Catalyst website re-design team leader, to > be assisted by a number of us helpful Austin Perl Mongers. We will > use (of course) Linux / Perl on the back-end, Catalyst / > Template::Toolkit as the middle-ware, and Foundation / JQuery / > Javascript on the front-end, for a fully-featured modern and > responsive website. WOWZA! > Our straw-man general plan is available on our handy-dandy Trello > to-do list: > https://trello.com/b/fyNhcgzd/austin-pm-website > We have debated for months and tonight we finally voted upon an > official Austin Perl Mongers mascot... > > THE BARTON SPRINGS SALAMANDER! > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barton_Springs_salamander > We want to anthropomorphize the animal like our sponsor HostGator's > "Snappy the Gator" mascot. We've had several possible ideas including > a hipster or hippie salamander, all the way through a "proper british > salamander with a top-hat, monocle, and cane with a big pearl on top". > So we'll let the artists create some prototypes and see what we come > up with? "Sir Barton P. MacSalamander the Third, Of Austin Springs, > at your service my good lady" > We also got some radical new Perl t-shirts thanks to HostGator and our > main man X! Hey X, can you please send out some photos of the new > shirts? > AAAAAND last but not least, we've decided to debate and eventually > choose an official Austin.pm FLAGSHIP SOFTWARE PROJECT to be hosted on > CPAN. We have no idea what this might be, and we're pretty much open > to anything that will have a real positive impact on the Perl > community. It could be an important upgrade to an existing CPAN > distribution, or it could be a totally new CPAN project that we come > up with from scratch. Let's all pitch in and make a difference, let's > put Austin.pm on the maps! > So, who has ideas for projects, website, graphics, etc? > Perling,~ Will the Chill, Austin.pm Prez > > William Norman Braswell, Jr. > CEO & President; Auto-Parallel Technologies, Inc. > william.braswell at autoparallel.com > 512.563.7984 > This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) > and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any > unauthorized use or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and > destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you. -- -- -- -- Venimus, Vidimus, Dolavimus jameschoate at austin.rr.com jchoate at confusionresearchcenter.org ravage at ssz.com h: 512-657-1279 Adapt, Adopt, Improvise -- -- -- -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From william.braswell at autoparallel.com Thu Jun 12 00:33:00 2014 From: william.braswell at autoparallel.com (William N. Braswell, Jr.) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 02:33:00 -0500 Subject: APM: Possible New Austin.pm Software Projects In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20140612073301.23BC120185@smtp.hushmail.com> MONGERS, PLEASE READ MR. DOUGHERTY'S LETTER BELOW AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK! Things I personally think are attractive about this FRDCSA project: - Clear Initial Win By Releasing Pre-Existing Software To CPAN- Artificial Intelligence Is Cool- Integrates With New Austin.pm Catalyst Website- Existing Maintainer To Lead The Project- Potentially High-Value & High-Visibility- Broad Enough To Have Something For Everyone Perling,~ Will the Chill ----- Forwarded message from "Andrew J. Dougherty" ----- Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 07:17:11 +0000 Subject: Re: Possible New Austin.pm Software Projects To: "William N. Braswell, Jr." Hi Mongers, Sure, I'll give a description. There is a ton of open source software out there that hasn't been integrated directly with Perl yet which is often written in other languages or combinations thereof. Really powerful stuff. I have made/want to make a giant directory of all of this and expose interfaces from Perl to all the libraries, APIs, etc, and make both the original software and its wrapper installable on your OS of choice by building OS specific installers for it for as many OSes as possible. I've been using the FLOSSMole database of software, spidering, and a lot of natural language processing software I've collected (that I've exposed the APIs to in Perl) to bootstrap a Comprehensive Software Ontology, and have created a toolchain called RADAR/Packager/Architect which can locate, package and integrate that software into these APIs and OS packages. I do all my programming in Perl and want to make my environment as capable as possible. So there is the Perl API component, and also the OS package component. In addition to this main goal there are a lot of other tools, which have either been custom written in Perl or which I've indexed using the system, to provide two kinds of capabilities. The first kind are capabilities that help with the goal of locating, packaging and integrating existing open source software. The second kind are general purpose software. I think that by making all these non-Perl tools able to be controlled from Perl, we will magnify the set of capabilities that are installable via CPAN and your OS. I've been building vagrant scripts to test. Since learning of Catalyst, I have always envisioned exposing these capabilities through CPAN to Catalyst to help make it the most powerful possible web development system, capable of accessing and performing the most comprehensive set of functions possible. I have put 15 years of work into this project, and it has never been released on CPAN, because I don't have experience releasing CPAN modules, and everything is interdependent. It would be a great help to me and hopefully to the Perl community as well if the Austin Perl Mongers could help me get this system deployed to CPAN so that people can use it with their projects. There is a lot involved, tests need to be written, code cleaned and secured, but I'm confident that it is very doable and worthwhile. Much of the software I have been packaging is artificial intelligence and text processing tools. You can see some of the packages here: deb http://services.frdcsa.org/debian unstable/ I've also developed a lot of Perl programs, both general purpose software, and software that aids in the creation of Perl. I have one that uses PPI to convert a script into a module. I am working on one that converts a textual description of a system into object-oriented code. One that installs all dependent modules for a perl program, etc. Thanks for considering the FRDCSA as your project. Here are some links: Internal: http://frdcsa.org/frdcsa/ http://frdcsa.org/ http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/Overview.odt http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/projects/module-list.txt http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/modules.txt http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/visual-aid/ http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/visual-aid/major-tracks.pdf http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/visual-aid/FRDCSA-Grant-Proposal.odt http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/ http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/Temporal-Planning-and-Inferencing-for-Personal-Task-Management-with-SPSE2.pdf http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/flourish-2009.odp http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/workhorse.odp? http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/frdcsa-2.0-requirements-draft.txt External: https://github.com/aindilis/myfrdcsas-doc/blob/master/MyFRDCSAs.README http://flossmole.org/ http://www.fossology.org/projects/fossology Some sample code: http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/software/software-samples-20111215.tgz (you can see some wrappers in System::, Capability:: and PerlLib:: in the perllib.tgz tar contained within the samples tar). On 06/11/2014 10:04 PM, William N. Braswell, Jr. wrote: > Good idea, Mr. Choate. > > Mr. Dougherty, will you please reply to the mailing list with a brief > explanation of your Perl project? > Thanks! > Perling,~ Will the Chill, Austin.pm Prez > > On 6/11/2014 at 7:37 AM, jameschoate at austin.rr.com wrote:With regard > to projects, I'd like to propose somebody in authority speak with > Andrew Dougherty w/ FRDCSA. He has a large collection of Perl he's > been working on for the last several years related to ML and such > topics. He's trying to get help organizing and building some support > to get them into a real production status. I've included Andrew in CC. > I've been trying to get cycles to help since finding out about it from > last years YAPC talk he gave (though I must admit I've not been able > to do much actual help to date). > > http://www.frdcsa.org > > ---- "William N. Braswell wrote: >> Howdy Mongers, >> We had a very productive meeting tonight, thanks to Joe Axford >> stepping forth as our new Catalyst website re-design team leader, to >> be assisted by a number of us helpful Austin Perl Mongers. We will >> use (of course) Linux / Perl on the back-end, Catalyst / >> Template::Toolkit as the middle-ware, and Foundation / JQuery / >> Javascript on the front-end, for a fully-featured modern and >> responsive website. WOWZA! >> Our straw-man general plan is available on our handy-dandy Trello >> to-do list: >> https://trello.com/b/fyNhcgzd/austin-pm-website >> We have debated for months and tonight we finally voted upon an >> official Austin Perl Mongers mascot... >> >> THE BARTON SPRINGS SALAMANDER! >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barton_Springs_salamander >> We want to anthropomorphize the animal like our sponsor HostGator's >> "Snappy the Gator" mascot. We've had several possible ideas > including >> a hipster or hippie salamander, all the way through a "proper > british >> salamander with a top-hat, monocle, and cane with a big pearl on > top". >> So we'll let the artists create some prototypes and see what we > come >> up with? "Sir Barton P. MacSalamander the Third, Of Austin Springs, >> at your service my good lady" >> We also got some radical new Perl t-shirts thanks to HostGator and > our >> main man X! Hey X, can you please send out some photos of the new >> shirts? >> AAAAAND last but not least, we've decided to debate and eventually >> choose an official Austin.pm FLAGSHIP SOFTWARE PROJECT to be hosted > on >> CPAN. We have no idea what this might be, and we're pretty much > open >> to anything that will have a real positive impact on the Perl >> community. It could be an important upgrade to an existing CPAN >> distribution, or it could be a totally new CPAN project that we come >> up with from scratch. Let's all pitch in and make a difference, > let's >> put Austin.pm on the maps! >> So, who has ideas for projects, website, graphics, etc? >> Perling,~ Will the Chill, Austin.pm Prez >> >> William Norman Braswell, Jr. >> CEO & President; Auto-Parallel Technologies, Inc. >> william.braswell at autoparallel.com >> 512.563.7984 >> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) >> and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any >> unauthorized use or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the >> intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and >> destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you. > > -- -- -- -- > Venimus, Vidimus, Dolavimus > > jameschoate at austin.rr.com > jchoate at confusionresearchcenter.org > ravage at ssz.com > > h: 512-657-1279 > > Adapt, Adopt, Improvise > -- -- -- -- > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From reini at cpanel.net Thu Jun 12 07:46:40 2014 From: reini at cpanel.net (Reini Urban) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 09:46:40 -0500 Subject: APM: Possible New Austin.pm Software Projects In-Reply-To: <20140612073301.23BC120185@smtp.hushmail.com> References: <20140612073301.23BC120185@smtp.hushmail.com> Message-ID: <5399BD50.30402@cpanel.net> On 06/12/2014 02:33 AM, William N. Braswell, Jr. wrote: > MONGERS, PLEASE READ MR. DOUGHERTY'S LETTER BELOW AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK! > > Things I personally think are attractive about this FRDCSA project: > > - Clear Initial Win By Releasing Pre-Existing Software To CPAN > - Artificial Intelligence Is Cool > - Integrates With New Austin.pm Catalyst Website > - Existing Maintainer To Lead The Project > - Potentially High-Value & High-Visibility > - Broad Enough To Have Something For Everyone I and most other p5p folks don't really trust this guy. He applied for a tpf grant last year and it was denied. Nobody expects anybody to ask for money to publish his perl modules to CPAN. * http://news.perlfoundation.org/2010/08/2010q3-grant-proposal-frdcsa-i.html * http://developers.slashdot.org/story/13/06/13/154226/learn-about-the-frdcsa-weak-ai-project-video And the quality of the code was horrible compared to similar AI projects. So I doubt the potential High-Value & High-Visibility. Wasn't he in Austin at the last YAPC? I do think so. But I don't want to curb your enthusiasm if you like to work on it. AI *is* cool. And nobody trusted Will neither, until he came up with a successful project on his own. So if you like it, go for it. > ----- Forwarded message from "Andrew J. Dougherty" > ----- > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 07:17:11 +0000 > Subject: Re: Possible New Austin.pm Software Projects > To: "William N. Braswell, Jr." > > Hi Mongers, > > Sure, I'll give a description. There is a ton of open source > software out there that hasn't been integrated directly with Perl > yet which is often written in other languages or combinations > thereof. Really powerful stuff. I have made/want to make a > giant directory of all of this and expose interfaces from Perl to > all the libraries, APIs, etc, and make both the original software > and its wrapper installable on your OS of choice by building OS > specific installers for it for as many OSes as possible. I've > been using the FLOSSMole database of software, spidering, and a > lot of natural language processing software I've collected (that > I've exposed the APIs to in Perl) to bootstrap a Comprehensive > Software Ontology, and have created a toolchain called > RADAR/Packager/Architect which can locate, package and integrate > that software into these APIs and OS packages. I do all my > programming in Perl and want to make my environment as capable as > possible. So there is the Perl API component, and also the OS > package component. > > In addition to this main goal there are a lot of other tools, > which have either been custom written in Perl or which I've > indexed using the system, to provide two kinds of capabilities. > The first kind are capabilities that help with the goal of > locating, packaging and integrating existing open source > software. The second kind are general purpose software. > > I think that by making all these non-Perl tools able to be > controlled from Perl, we will magnify the set of capabilities > that are installable via CPAN and your OS. I've been building > vagrant scripts to test. > > Since learning of Catalyst, I have always envisioned exposing > these capabilities through CPAN to Catalyst to help make it the > most powerful possible web development system, capable of > accessing and performing the most comprehensive set of functions > possible. > > I have put 15 years of work into this project, and it has never > been released on CPAN, because I don't have experience releasing > CPAN modules, and everything is interdependent. It would be a > great help to me and hopefully to the Perl community as well if > the Austin Perl Mongers could help me get this system deployed to > CPAN so that people can use it with their projects. There is a > lot involved, tests need to be written, code cleaned and secured, > but I'm confident that it is very doable and worthwhile. > > Much of the software I have been packaging is artificial > intelligence and text processing tools. You can see some of the > packages here: > > deb http://services.frdcsa.org/debian unstable/ > > I've also developed a lot of Perl programs, both general purpose > software, and software that aids in the creation of Perl. I have > one that uses PPI to convert a script into a module. I am > working on one that converts a textual description of a system > into object-oriented code. One that installs all dependent > modules for a perl program, etc. > > Thanks for considering the FRDCSA as your project. > > Here are some links: > > Internal: > > http://frdcsa.org/frdcsa/ > http://frdcsa.org/ > http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/Overview.odt > http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/projects/module-list.txt > http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/modules.txt > http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/visual-aid/ > http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/visual-aid/major-tracks.pdf > http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/visual-aid/FRDCSA-Grant-Proposal.odt > http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/ > http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/Temporal-Planning-and-Inferencing-for-Personal-Task-Management-with-SPSE2.pdf > http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/flourish-2009.odp > http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/workhorse.odp? > http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/frdcsa-2.0-requirements-draft.txt > > External: > > https://github.com/aindilis/myfrdcsas-doc/blob/master/MyFRDCSAs.README > http://flossmole.org/ > http://www.fossology.org/projects/fossology > > Some sample code: > > http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/software/software-samples-20111215.tgz > > (you can see some wrappers in System::, Capability:: and > PerlLib:: in the perllib.tgz tar contained within the samples > tar). > > > On 06/11/2014 10:04 PM, William N. Braswell, Jr. wrote: >> Good idea, Mr. Choate. >> >> Mr. Dougherty, will you please reply to the mailing list with a brief >> explanation of your Perl project? >> Thanks! >> Perling,~ Will the Chill, Austin.pm Prez >> >> On 6/11/2014 at 7:37 AM, jameschoate at austin.rr.com wrote:With regard >> to projects, I'd like to propose somebody in authority speak with >> Andrew Dougherty w/ FRDCSA. He has a large collection of Perl he's >> been working on for the last several years related to ML and such >> topics. He's trying to get help organizing and building some support >> to get them into a real production status. I've included Andrew in CC. >> I've been trying to get cycles to help since finding out about it from >> last years YAPC talk he gave (though I must admit I've not been able >> to do much actual help to date). >> >>http://www.frdcsa.org >> >> ---- "William N. Braswell wrote: >>> Howdy Mongers, >>> We had a very productive meeting tonight, thanks to Joe Axford >>> stepping forth as our new Catalyst website re-design team leader, to >>> be assisted by a number of us helpful Austin Perl Mongers. We will >>> use (of course) Linux / Perl on the back-end, Catalyst / >>> Template::Toolkit as the middle-ware, and Foundation / JQuery / >>> Javascript on the front-end, for a fully-featured modern and >>> responsive website. WOWZA! >>> Our straw-man general plan is available on our handy-dandy Trello >>> to-do list: >>>https://trello.com/b/fyNhcgzd/austin-pm-website >>> We have debated for months and tonight we finally voted upon an >>> official Austin Perl Mongers mascot... >>> >>> THE BARTON SPRINGS SALAMANDER! >>> >>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barton_Springs_salamander >>> We want to anthropomorphize the animal like our sponsor HostGator's >>> "Snappy the Gator" mascot. We've had several possible ideas >> including >>> a hipster or hippie salamander, all the way through a "proper >> british >>> salamander with a top-hat, monocle, and cane with a big pearl on >> top". >>> So we'll let the artists create some prototypes and see what we >> come >>> up with? "Sir Barton P. MacSalamander the Third, Of Austin Springs, >>> at your service my good lady" >>> We also got some radical new Perl t-shirts thanks to HostGator and >> our >>> main man X! Hey X, can you please send out some photos of the new >>> shirts? >>> AAAAAND last but not least, we've decided to debate and eventually >>> choose an official Austin.pm FLAGSHIP SOFTWARE PROJECT to be hosted >> on >>> CPAN. We have no idea what this might be, and we're pretty much >> open >>> to anything that will have a real positive impact on the Perl >>> community. It could be an important upgrade to an existing CPAN >>> distribution, or it could be a totally new CPAN project that we come >>> up with from scratch. Let's all pitch in and make a difference, >> let's >>> put Austin.pm on the maps! >>> So, who has ideas for projects, website, graphics, etc? >>> Perling,~ Will the Chill, Austin.pm Prez >>> >>> William Norman Braswell, Jr. >>> CEO & President; Auto-Parallel Technologies, Inc. >>> william.braswell at autoparallel.com >>> 512.563.7984 >>> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) >>> and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any >>> unauthorized use or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the >>> intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and >>> destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you. >> >> -- -- -- -- >> Venimus, Vidimus, Dolavimus >> >> jameschoate at austin.rr.com >> jchoate at confusionresearchcenter.org >> ravage at ssz.com >> >> h: 512-657-1279 >> >> Adapt, Adopt, Improvise >> -- -- -- -- >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Austin mailing list > Austin at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin > [Disclaimer: The views expressed in this letter are my own, and do not represent those of my employer.] -- Reini Working towards a true Modern Perl. Slim, functional, unbloated, compile-time optimizable From william.braswell at autoparallel.com Thu Jun 12 11:04:37 2014 From: william.braswell at autoparallel.com (William N. Braswell, Jr.) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 13:04:37 -0500 Subject: APM: Possible New Austin.pm Software Projects In-Reply-To: <5399BD50.30402@cpanel.net> References: <20140612073301.23BC120185@smtp.hushmail.com> <5399BD50.30402@cpanel.net> Message-ID: <20140612180438.2667C20182@smtp.hushmail.com> Yes Reini is correct, there is an inherent risk in the FRDCSA project, because we won't know the true value of FRDCSA until it is uploaded to CPAN and tested by the Perl community. Yes I believe I did see Mr. Dougherty's booth at YAPC in Austin last year, I was interested then and I'm still interested now. Remember this is just 1 possible project put forth by a member of Austin.pm, we are still wide open to any other ideas of the group. Perling,~ Will the Chill On 6/12/2014 at 9:46 AM, "Reini Urban" wrote:On 06/12/2014 02:33 AM, William N. Braswell, Jr. wrote: > MONGERS, PLEASE READ MR. DOUGHERTY'S LETTER BELOW AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK! > > Things I personally think are attractive about this FRDCSA project: > > - Clear Initial Win By Releasing Pre-Existing Software To CPAN > - Artificial Intelligence Is Cool > - Integrates With New Austin.pm Catalyst Website > - Existing Maintainer To Lead The Project > - Potentially High-Value & High-Visibility > - Broad Enough To Have Something For Everyone I and most other p5p folks don't really trust this guy. He applied for a tpf grant last year and it was denied. Nobody expects anybody to ask for money to publish his perl modules to CPAN. * http://news.perlfoundation.org/2010/08/2010q3-grant-proposal-frdcsa-i.html * http://developers.slashdot.org/story/13/06/13/154226/learn-about-the-frdcsa-weak-ai-project-video And the quality of the code was horrible compared to similar AI projects. So I doubt the potential High-Value & High-Visibility. Wasn't he in Austin at the last YAPC? I do think so. But I don't want to curb your enthusiasm if you like to work on it. AI *is* cool. And nobody trusted Will neither, until he came up with a successful project on his own. So if you like it, go for it. > ----- Forwarded message from "Andrew J. Dougherty" > ----- > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 07:17:11 +0000 > Subject: Re: Possible New Austin.pm Software Projects > To: "William N. Braswell, Jr." > > Hi Mongers, > > Sure, I'll give a description. There is a ton of open source > software out there that hasn't been integrated directly with Perl > yet which is often written in other languages or combinations > thereof. Really powerful stuff. I have made/want to make a > giant directory of all of this and expose interfaces from Perl to > all the libraries, APIs, etc, and make both the original software > and its wrapper installable on your OS of choice by building OS > specific installers for it for as many OSes as possible. I've > been using the FLOSSMole database of software, spidering, and a > lot of natural language processing software I've collected (that > I've exposed the APIs to in Perl) to bootstrap a Comprehensive > Software Ontology, and have created a toolchain called > RADAR/Packager/Architect which can locate, package and integrate > that software into these APIs and OS packages. I do all my > programming in Perl and want to make my environment as capable as > possible. So there is the Perl API component, and also the OS > package component. > > In addition to this main goal there are a lot of other tools, > which have either been custom written in Perl or which I've > indexed using the system, to provide two kinds of capabilities. > The first kind are capabilities that help with the goal of > locating, packaging and integrating existing open source > software. The second kind are general purpose software. > > I think that by making all these non-Perl tools able to be > controlled from Perl, we will magnify the set of capabilities > that are installable via CPAN and your OS. I've been building > vagrant scripts to test. > > Since learning of Catalyst, I have always envisioned exposing > these capabilities through CPAN to Catalyst to help make it the > most powerful possible web development system, capable of > accessing and performing the most comprehensive set of functions > possible. > > I have put 15 years of work into this project, and it has never > been released on CPAN, because I don't have experience releasing > CPAN modules, and everything is interdependent. It would be a > great help to me and hopefully to the Perl community as well if > the Austin Perl Mongers could help me get this system deployed to > CPAN so that people can use it with their projects. There is a > lot involved, tests need to be written, code cleaned and secured, > but I'm confident that it is very doable and worthwhile. > > Much of the software I have been packaging is artificial > intelligence and text processing tools. You can see some of the > packages here: > > deb http://services.frdcsa.org/debian unstable/ > > I've also developed a lot of Perl programs, both general purpose > software, and software that aids in the creation of Perl. I have > one that uses PPI to convert a script into a module. I am > working on one that converts a textual description of a system > into object-oriented code. One that installs all dependent > modules for a perl program, etc. > > Thanks for considering the FRDCSA as your project. > > Here are some links: > > Internal: > > http://frdcsa.org/frdcsa/ > http://frdcsa.org/ > http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/Overview.odt > http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/projects/module-list.txt > http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/modules.txt > http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/visual-aid/ > http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/visual-aid/major-tracks.pdf > http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/visual-aid/FRDCSA-Grant-Proposal.odt > http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/ > http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/Temporal-Planning-and-Inferencing-for-Personal-Task-Management-with-SPSE2.pdf > http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/flourish-2009.odp > http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/workhorse.odp? > http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/writings/frdcsa-2.0-requirements-draft.txt > > External: > > https://github.com/aindilis/myfrdcsas-doc/blob/master/MyFRDCSAs.README > http://flossmole.org/ > http://www.fossology.org/projects/fossology > > Some sample code: > > http://frdcsa.org/~andrewdo/software/software-samples-20111215.tgz > > (you can see some wrappers in System::, Capability:: and > PerlLib:: in the perllib.tgz tar contained within the samples > tar). > > > On 06/11/2014 10:04 PM, William N. Braswell, Jr. wrote: >> Good idea, Mr. Choate. >> >> Mr. Dougherty, will you please reply to the mailing list with a brief >> explanation of your Perl project? >> Thanks! >> Perling,~ Will the Chill, Austin.pm Prez >> >> On 6/11/2014 at 7:37 AM, jameschoate at austin.rr.com wrote:With regard >> to projects, I'd like to propose somebody in authority speak with >> Andrew Dougherty w/ FRDCSA. He has a large collection of Perl he's >> been working on for the last several years related to ML and such >> topics. He's trying to get help organizing and building some support >> to get them into a real production status. I've included Andrew in CC. >> I've been trying to get cycles to help since finding out about it from >> last years YAPC talk he gave (though I must admit I've not been able >> to do much actual help to date). >> >>http://www.frdcsa.org >> >> ---- "William N. Braswell wrote: >>> Howdy Mongers, >>> We had a very productive meeting tonight, thanks to Joe Axford >>> stepping forth as our new Catalyst website re-design team leader, to >>> be assisted by a number of us helpful Austin Perl Mongers. We will >>> use (of course) Linux / Perl on the back-end, Catalyst / >>> Template::Toolkit as the middle-ware, and Foundation / JQuery / >>> Javascript on the front-end, for a fully-featured modern and >>> responsive website. WOWZA! >>> Our straw-man general plan is available on our handy-dandy Trello >>> to-do list: >>>https://trello.com/b/fyNhcgzd/austin-pm-website >>> We have debated for months and tonight we finally voted upon an >>> official Austin Perl Mongers mascot... >>> >>> THE BARTON SPRINGS SALAMANDER! >>> >>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barton_Springs_salamander >>> We want to anthropomorphize the animal like our sponsor HostGator's >>> "Snappy the Gator" mascot. We've had several possible ideas >> including >>> a hipster or hippie salamander, all the way through a "proper >> british >>> salamander with a top-hat, monocle, and cane with a big pearl on >> top". >>> So we'll let the artists create some prototypes and see what we >> come >>> up with? "Sir Barton P. MacSalamander the Third, Of Austin Springs, >>> at your service my good lady" >>> We also got some radical new Perl t-shirts thanks to HostGator and >> our >>> main man X! Hey X, can you please send out some photos of the new >>> shirts? >>> AAAAAND last but not least, we've decided to debate and eventually >>> choose an official Austin.pm FLAGSHIP SOFTWARE PROJECT to be hosted >> on >>> CPAN. We have no idea what this might be, and we're pretty much >> open >>> to anything that will have a real positive impact on the Perl >>> community. It could be an important upgrade to an existing CPAN >>> distribution, or it could be a totally new CPAN project that we come >>> up with from scratch. Let's all pitch in and make a difference, >> let's >>> put Austin.pm on the maps! >>> So, who has ideas for projects, website, graphics, etc? >>> Perling,~ Will the Chill, Austin.pm Prez >>> >>> William Norman Braswell, Jr. >>> CEO & President; Auto-Parallel Technologies, Inc. >>> william.braswell at autoparallel.com >>> 512.563.7984 >>> This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) >>> and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any >>> unauthorized use or disclosure is prohibited. If you are not the >>> intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and >>> destroy all copies of the original message. 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