From jjn1056 at yahoo.com Mon Dec 2 15:07:09 2013 From: jjn1056 at yahoo.com (John Napiorkowski) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 15:07:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: APM: Catalyst Meeting Rescheduled, Next Tues 12/3 7pm In-Reply-To: <20131126040010.8FF6C20111@smtp.hushmail.com> References: <20131125080303.D6EFF20112@smtp.hushmail.com> <1385398349.80507.YahooMailNeo@web164503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20131125191332.77BAF20111@smtp.hushmail.com> <20131125200128.42E9B20111@smtp.hushmail.com> <1385411564.58797.YahooMailNeo@web140806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1385414222.12725.YahooMailNeo@web164501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20131125213544.264D120111@smtp.hushmail.com> <20131126040010.8FF6C20111@smtp.hushmail.com> Message-ID: <1386025629.93324.YahooMailNeo@web140803.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hey All, This will be my first attendance as I am new to the Austin area. ?My understanding is this meeting will be themed around Catalyst, so if there's anything you'd all like me to prepare, just give a shout out. ?Thanks! John Napiorkowski (jnap on #catalyst-dev) On Monday, November 25, 2013 10:00 PM, Will Braswell wrote: Great Jack, see you then my friend! ?:-) Perling, ~ Will On 11/25/2013 at 8:11 PM, "Jack Lupton" wrote: Count me in, for sure! I'll be there Dec 3. > > > > > >On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Will Braswell wrote: > >Howdy Mongers, >> >> >>Most people can do next Tuesday, so we will reschedule our meeting! >> >> >>Catalyst Open Discussion & Presentation(s) >>Tuesday, December 3rd, 7:00pm >>Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf >>13376 N. Highway 183, Suite 800, Austin, TX >> >> >>We also have our normal December meeting scheduled for Tuesday 12/17, and if there is enough interest we can always add more meetings like 12/10, etc. >> >> >>See y'all next week! >> >> >>Perling, >>~ Will the Chill, Austin.pm Prez >> >> >>On 11/25/2013 at 3:17 PM, "Jeffrey Benton" wrote: >>I talked to my boss about showing stuff off and he said that would be fine.? I just can't hand out any code. ? I can do next week, 12/3,? but 12/10 would work better. >>> >>>I have not been to any APM meetings yet so I am sorry if these are dumb questions. Is there a projector?? Is there internet connection? >>> >>> >>> >>>-- Jeff >>> >>>=== >>>|?? _??? | >>>| _| ~~. | >>>| \,? _} | >>>|?? \(?? | >>>=== >>>===== >>> >>> >>> >>>On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:33 PM, John Napiorkowski wrote: >>> >>>I'd prefer next Tuesday over tomorrow, just given how lame the weather is. ?I'd be happy to add anything to the Catalyst conversation, and do an informal review as well, if people want. ?By next week Catalyst advent will be started, and between now and then I am a bit busy trying to get enough articles together. ? >>> >>> >>>--jnap >>> >>> >>> >>>On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:23 PM, Will Braswell wrote: >>> >>>I have 1 yes (from Joe) so far. >>> >>> >>>Jack? ?boftx? ?Jeff? ?Frank? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>On 11/25/2013 at 1:33 PM, "Joe Axford" wrote: >>>yes >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Jeff: can you make it if we move the meeting to next Tuesday 12/3 at 7pm? ? >>>>? >>>>boftx: same question? >>>>? >>>>Frank: same question? >>>>? >>>>Jack: same question? >>>>? >>>>Joe: same question? >>>>? >>>>Thanks! >>>>~ Will >>>> >>>> >>>>On 11/25/2013 at 1:01 PM, "Frank Sheiness" wrote: >>>>I'm interested in this one as well and I can make it but I understand this probably isn't a good week for a lot of people who might be going on vacation. >>>>? >>>>On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Jeffrey Benton wrote: >>>>I was interested in attending this because I am currently working on a catalyst based project at work, but I can't because I am leaving town for thanksgiving.? I will need to check with my boss, but if he oks it, I would be willing to informally share what I have been working on. >>>>? >>>>-- Jeff >>>> >>>>=== >>>>|?? _??? | >>>>| _| ~~. | >>>>| \,? _} | >>>>|?? \(?? | >>>>=== >>>>===== >>>>? >>>>On Monday, November 25, 2013 9:17 AM, Jack Lupton wrote: >>>>Sorry, I have a conflict. Also, I never said anything about giving a presentation. An informal discussion might be more appropriate. I could rearrange my plans, and blow off the learning python meetup. Is anyone else going to be at Austin Perl Mongers? >>>>I've been working on chained dispatch types when I get the time. I've had to return to my 'job at the factory'. So, once again, I'm having trouble making time for that which really drives me, Perl 5. >>>>? >>>>On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Will Braswell wrote: >>>>Howdy Perl Mongers, >>>>? >>>>Our monthly meeting is this Tuesday, November 26th, at 7:00pm. >>>>? >>>>Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf >>>>13376 N. Highway 183, Suite 800, Austin, TX >>>>? >>>>Per Jack Lupton's request, our topic will be the Catalyst web app framework. ?Hopefully Jack will be in attendance and ready to give a brief Catalyst presentation! >>>>? >>>>Also, I've updated our website at the austin.pm domain, and the austin.pm.org domain should now properly forward. ?Please take a moment to let me know what you think: >>>>? >>>>http://austin.pm >>>>? >>>>Perling, >>>>~ Will >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Austin mailing list >>>>Austin at pm.org >>>>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >>>>? >>>>? >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Austin mailing list >>>>Austin at pm.org >>>>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >>>>? >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Austin mailing list >>>>Austin at pm.org >>>>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >>>>? >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Austin mailing list >>>Austin at pm.org >>>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Austin mailing list >>>Austin at pm.org >>>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>Austin mailing list >>Austin at pm.org >>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >> > _______________________________________________ Austin mailing list Austin at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Also, I have stuff on a pc laptop, is there a projector or do I need to bring one. ? -- Jeff === |?? _??? | | _| ~~. | | \,? _} | |?? \(?? | === ===== On Monday, November 25, 2013 3:17 PM, Jeffrey Benton wrote: I talked to my boss about showing stuff off and he said that would be fine.? I just can't hand out any code. ? I can do next week, 12/3,? but 12/10 would work better. I have not been to any APM meetings yet so I am sorry if these are dumb questions. Is there a projector?? Is there internet connection? -- Jeff === |?? _??? | | _| ~~. | | \,? _} | |?? \(?? | === ===== On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:33 PM, John Napiorkowski wrote: I'd prefer next Tuesday over tomorrow, just given how lame the weather is. ?I'd be happy to add anything to the Catalyst conversation, and do an informal review as well, if people want. ?By next week Catalyst advent will be started, and between now and then I am a bit busy trying to get enough articles together. ? --jnap On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:23 PM, Will Braswell wrote: I have 1 yes (from Joe) so far. Jack? ?boftx? ?Jeff? ?Frank? On 11/25/2013 at 1:33 PM, "Joe Axford" wrote: >yes > > > > >Jeff: can you make it if we move the meeting to next Tuesday 12/3 at 7pm? ? >? >boftx: same question? >? >Frank: same question? >? >Jack: same question? >? >Joe: same question? >? >Thanks! >~ Will > > >On 11/25/2013 at 1:01 PM, "Frank Sheiness" wrote: >I'm interested in this one as well and I can make it but I understand this probably isn't a good week for a lot of people who might be going on vacation. >? >On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Jeffrey Benton wrote: >I was interested in attending this because I am currently working on a catalyst based project at work, but I can't because I am leaving town for thanksgiving.? I will need to check with my boss, but if he oks it, I would be willing to informally share what I have been working on. >? >-- Jeff > >=== >|?? _??? | >| _| ~~. | >| \,? _} | >|?? \(?? | >=== >===== >? >On Monday, November 25, 2013 9:17 AM, Jack Lupton wrote: >Sorry, I have a conflict. Also, I never said anything about giving a presentation. An informal discussion might be more appropriate. I could rearrange my plans, and blow off the learning python meetup. Is anyone else going to be at Austin Perl Mongers? >I've been working on chained dispatch types when I get the time. I've had to return to my 'job at the factory'. So, once again, I'm having trouble making time for that which really drives me, Perl 5. >? >On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Will Braswell wrote: >Howdy Perl Mongers, >? >Our monthly meeting is this Tuesday, November 26th, at 7:00pm. >? >Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf >13376 N. Highway 183, Suite 800, Austin, TX >? >Per Jack Lupton's request, our topic will be the Catalyst web app framework. ?Hopefully Jack will be in attendance and ready to give a brief Catalyst presentation! >? >Also, I've updated our website at the austin.pm domain, and the austin.pm.org domain should now properly forward. ?Please take a moment to let me know what you think: >? >http://austin.pm >? >Perling, >~ Will > >_______________________________________________ >Austin mailing list >Austin at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >? >? >_______________________________________________ >Austin mailing list >Austin at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >? > >_______________________________________________ >Austin mailing list >Austin at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >? _______________________________________________ Austin mailing list Austin at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin _______________________________________________ Austin mailing list Austin at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jacklupton at gmail.com Tue Dec 3 12:28:58 2013 From: jacklupton at gmail.com (Jack Lupton) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 14:28:58 -0600 Subject: APM: Change Catalyst Meeting To Next Tues 12/3 7pm??? In-Reply-To: <1386093000.75088.YahooMailNeo@web164505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <20131125080303.D6EFF20112@smtp.hushmail.com> <1385398349.80507.YahooMailNeo@web164503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20131125191332.77BAF20111@smtp.hushmail.com> <20131125200128.42E9B20111@smtp.hushmail.com> <1385411564.58797.YahooMailNeo@web140806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1385414222.12725.YahooMailNeo@web164501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1386093000.75088.YahooMailNeo@web164505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm looking forward to the meeting tonight as well. The setup at Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf is pretty informal. For a small group it should be okay. There is no projector, screen, or separate meeting room and they close at 9pm. Meeting space in Austin seems to be at a premium right now and hard to find. If we ever get a big group of 20 or 25 like we did 10 years ago, we might be in trouble. I have not had time to work with Catalyst over the past couple of weeks. Had to go back to my paying job for a while. I'm still interested in chained dispatch actions. I think I've got it, but some refresher on that would be great. I'm also interested in how static content is included in a Catalyst application. My understanding is that Template Toolkit is mostly used for specifying the type of response. How much of it used for actually templating? What should I be doing with Catalyst, and Template Toolkit as opposed to incorporating JavaScript libraries. I watched the video of Casey West's talk 'How to be a web UI developer'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68O0Wso_XuU It's pretty great with a lot of ideas and tools introduced. But, how does one incorporate those into a Catalyst application. I was making real progress on this stuff until about 3 weeks ago. I can't wait to get back to it. On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Jeffrey Benton wrote: > I am all ready for tonight. Are we still on? I have not been to an APM > meeting before so how do these things work? Interactive presentation > style, presentation with questions at the end? How long? Also, I have > stuff on a pc laptop, is there a projector or do I need to bring one. > > -- Jeff > > === > | _ | > | _| ~~. | > | \, _} | > | \( | > === > ===== > > > On Monday, November 25, 2013 3:17 PM, Jeffrey Benton < > jeffreyrbenton at yahoo.com> wrote: > I talked to my boss about showing stuff off and he said that would be > fine. I just can't hand out any code. I can do next week, 12/3, but > 12/10 would work better. > > I have not been to any APM meetings yet so I am sorry if these are dumb > questions. Is there a projector? Is there internet connection? > > -- Jeff > > === > | _ | > | _| ~~. | > | \, _} | > | \( | > === > ===== > > > On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:33 PM, John Napiorkowski < > jjn1056 at yahoo.com> wrote: > I'd prefer next Tuesday over tomorrow, just given how lame the weather > is. I'd be happy to add anything to the Catalyst conversation, and do an > informal review as well, if people want. By next week Catalyst advent will > be started, and between now and then I am a bit busy trying to get enough > articles together. > > --jnap > > > On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:23 PM, Will Braswell > wrote: > I have 1 yes (from Joe) so far. > > Jack? boftx? Jeff? Frank? > > > > On 11/25/2013 at 1:33 PM, "Joe Axford" wrote: > > yes > > > Jeff: can you make it if we move the meeting to next Tuesday 12/3 at 7pm? > > boftx: same question? > > Frank: same question? > > Jack: same question? > > Joe: same question? > > Thanks! > ~ Will > > > On 11/25/2013 at 1:01 PM, "Frank Sheiness" wrote: > I'm interested in this one as well and I can make it but I understand > this probably isn't a good week for a lot of people who might be going on > vacation. > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Jeffrey Benton < > jeffreyrbenton at yahoo.com> wrote: > I was interested in attending this because I am currently working on a > catalyst based project at work, but I can't because I am leaving town for > thanksgiving. I will need to check with my boss, but if he oks it, I would > be willing to informally share what I have been working on. > > -- Jeff > > === > | _ | > | _| ~~. | > | \, _} | > | \( | > === > ===== > > On Monday, November 25, 2013 9:17 AM, Jack Lupton > wrote: > Sorry, I have a conflict. Also, I never said anything about giving a > presentation. An informal discussion might be more appropriate. I could > rearrange my plans, and blow off the learning python meetup. Is anyone else > going to be at Austin Perl Mongers? > I've been working on chained dispatch types when I get the time. I've had > to return to my 'job at the factory'. So, once again, I'm having trouble > making time for that which really drives me, Perl 5. > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Will Braswell > wrote: > Howdy Perl Mongers, > > Our monthly meeting is this Tuesday, November 26th, at 7:00pm. > > Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf > 13376 N. Highway 183, Suite 800, Austin, TX > > Per Jack Lupton's request, our topic will be the Catalyst web app > framework. Hopefully Jack will be in attendance and ready to give a brief > Catalyst presentation! > > Also, I've updated our website at the austin.pm domain, and the > austin.pm.org domain should now properly forward. Please take a moment > to let me know what you think: > > http://austin.pm > > Perling, > ~ Will > > _______________________________________________ > Austin mailing list > Austin at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin > > > _______________________________________________ > Austin mailing list > Austin at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin > > > _______________________________________________ > Austin mailing list > Austin at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin > > > > _______________________________________________ > Austin mailing list > Austin at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin > > > _______________________________________________ > Austin mailing list > Austin at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Austin mailing list > Austin at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wbraswell at hush.com Tue Dec 3 14:52:44 2013 From: wbraswell at hush.com (Will Braswell) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 16:52:44 -0600 Subject: APM: Catalyst Meeting TONIGHT Tues 12/3 7pm In-Reply-To: References: <20131125080303.D6EFF20112@smtp.hushmail.com> <1385398349.80507.YahooMailNeo@web164503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20131125191332.77BAF20111@smtp.hushmail.com> <20131125200128.42E9B20111@smtp.hushmail.com> <1385411564.58797.YahooMailNeo@web140806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1385414222.12725.YahooMailNeo@web164501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1386093000.75088.YahooMailNeo@web164505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20131203225245.121B020111@smtp.hushmail.com> Howdy Mongers, We will meet TONIGHT at 7:00pm: Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf13376 N. Highway 183, Suite 800, Austin, TX I'll be wearing a green Scouting shirt and should have some kind of Perl banner with me. There is not a projector available at the coffee shop, y'all are welcome to bring your own projector and we'll just have to figure out a way to make it work. Feel free to text me if you have any questions! Perling,~ Will, Austin.pm Prez512.563.7984 cell On 12/3/2013 at 2:29 PM, "Jack Lupton" wrote:I'm looking forward to the meeting tonight as well. The setup at Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf is pretty informal. For a small group it should be okay. There is no projector, screen, or separate meeting room and they close at 9pm. Meeting space in Austin seems to be at a premium right now and hard to find. If we ever get a big group of 20 or 25 like we did 10 years ago, we might be in trouble. I have not had time to work with Catalyst over the past couple of weeks. Had to go back to my paying job for a while. I'm still interested in chained dispatch actions. I think I've got it, but some refresher on that would be great. I'm also interested in how static content is included in a Catalyst application. My understanding is that Template Toolkit is mostly used for specifying the type of response. How much of it used for actually templating? What should I be doing with Catalyst, and Template Toolkit as opposed to incorporating JavaScript libraries. I watched the video of Casey West's talk 'How to be a web UI developer'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68O0Wso_XuU It's pretty great with a lot of ideas and tools introduced. But, how does one incorporate those into a Catalyst application. I was making real progress on this stuff until about 3 weeks ago. I can't wait to get back to it. On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Jeffrey Benton wrote: I am all ready for tonight. Are we still on? I have not been to an APM meeting before so how do these things work? Interactive presentation style, presentation with questions at the end? How long? Also, I have stuff on a pc laptop, is there a projector or do I need to bring one. -- Jeff === | _ | | _| ~~. | | , _} | | ( | === ===== On Monday, November 25, 2013 3:17 PM, Jeffrey Benton wrote: I talked to my boss about showing stuff off and he said that would be fine. I just can't hand out any code. I can do next week, 12/3, but 12/10 would work better. I have not been to any APM meetings yet so I am sorry if these are dumb questions. Is there a projector? Is there internet connection? -- Jeff === | _ | | _| ~~. | | , _} | | ( | === ===== On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:33 PM, John Napiorkowski wrote: I'd prefer next Tuesday over tomorrow, just given how lame the weather is. I'd be happy to add anything to the Catalyst conversation, and do an informal review as well, if people want. By next week Catalyst advent will be started, and between now and then I am a bit busy trying to get enough articles together. --jnap On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:23 PM, Will Braswell wrote: I have 1 yes (from Joe) so far. Jack? boftx? Jeff? Frank? On 11/25/2013 at 1:33 PM, "Joe Axford" wrote: yes Jeff: can you make it if we move the meeting to next Tuesday 12/3 at 7pm? boftx: same question? Frank: same question? Jack: same question? Joe: same question? Thanks! ~ Will On 11/25/2013 at 1:01 PM, "Frank Sheiness" wrote: I'm interested in this one as well and I can make it but I understand this probably isn't a good week for a lot of people who might be going on vacation. On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Jeffrey Benton wrote: I was interested in attending this because I am currently working on a catalyst based project at work, but I can't because I am leaving town for thanksgiving. I will need to check with my boss, but if he oks it, I would be willing to informally share what I have been working on. -- Jeff === | _ | | _| ~~. | | , _} | | ( | === ===== On Monday, November 25, 2013 9:17 AM, Jack Lupton wrote: Sorry, I have a conflict. Also, I never said anything about giving a presentation. An informal discussion might be more appropriate. I could rearrange my plans, and blow off the learning python meetup. Is anyone else going to be at Austin Perl Mongers? I've been working on chained dispatch types when I get the time. I've had to return to my 'job at the factory'. So, once again, I'm having trouble making time for that which really drives me, Perl 5. On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Will Braswell wrote: Howdy Perl Mongers, Our monthly meeting is this Tuesday, November 26th, at 7:00pm. Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf 13376 N. Highway 183, Suite 800, Austin, TX Per Jack Lupton's request, our topic will be the Catalyst web app framework. Hopefully Jack will be in attendance and ready to give a brief Catalyst presentation! Also, I've updated our website at the austin.pm domain, and the austin.pm.org domain should now properly forward. 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URL: From wbraswell at hush.com Tue Dec 3 15:15:17 2013 From: wbraswell at hush.com (Will Braswell) Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 17:15:17 -0600 Subject: APM: Catalyst Meeting TONIGHT Tues 12/3 7pm In-Reply-To: References: <20131125080303.D6EFF20112@smtp.hushmail.com> <1385398349.80507.YahooMailNeo@web164503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20131125191332.77BAF20111@smtp.hushmail.com> <20131125200128.42E9B20111@smtp.hushmail.com> <1385411564.58797.YahooMailNeo@web140806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1385414222.12725.YahooMailNeo@web164501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1386093000.75088.YahooMailNeo@web164505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20131203225245.121B020111@smtp.hushmail.com> Message-ID: <20131203231518.150D320111@smtp.hushmail.com> I think Jack meant for this to go out to everyone. On 12/3/2013 at 5:14 PM, "Jack Lupton" wrote:They do have internet, good coffee, and nice servers. Suite 800. Ha! it's a stand-alone shop in the parking lot. Don't be looking for a building of at least 8 stories. On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Will Braswell wrote: Howdy Mongers, We will meet TONIGHT at 7:00pm: Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf13376 N. Highway 183, Suite 800, Austin, TX I'll be wearing a green Scouting shirt and should have some kind of Perl banner with me. There is not a projector available at the coffee shop, y'all are welcome to bring your own projector and we'll just have to figure out a way to make it work. Feel free to text me if you have any questions! Perling,~ Will, Austin.pm Prez512.563.7984 cell On 12/3/2013 at 2:29 PM, "Jack Lupton" wrote: I'm looking forward to the meeting tonight as well. The setup at Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf is pretty informal. For a small group it should be okay. There is no projector, screen, or separate meeting room and they close at 9pm. Meeting space in Austin seems to be at a premium right now and hard to find. If we ever get a big group of 20 or 25 like we did 10 years ago, we might be in trouble. I have not had time to work with Catalyst over the past couple of weeks. Had to go back to my paying job for a while. I'm still interested in chained dispatch actions. I think I've got it, but some refresher on that would be great. I'm also interested in how static content is included in a Catalyst application. My understanding is that Template Toolkit is mostly used for specifying the type of response. How much of it used for actually templating? What should I be doing with Catalyst, and Template Toolkit as opposed to incorporating JavaScript libraries. I watched the video of Casey West's talk 'How to be a web UI developer'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68O0Wso_XuU It's pretty great with a lot of ideas and tools introduced. But, how does one incorporate those into a Catalyst application. I was making real progress on this stuff until about 3 weeks ago. I can't wait to get back to it. On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Jeffrey Benton wrote: I am all ready for tonight. Are we still on? I have not been to an APM meeting before so how do these things work? Interactive presentation style, presentation with questions at the end? How long? Also, I have stuff on a pc laptop, is there a projector or do I need to bring one. -- Jeff === | _ | | _| ~~. | | , _} | | ( | === ===== On Monday, November 25, 2013 3:17 PM, Jeffrey Benton wrote: I talked to my boss about showing stuff off and he said that would be fine. I just can't hand out any code. I can do next week, 12/3, but 12/10 would work better. I have not been to any APM meetings yet so I am sorry if these are dumb questions. Is there a projector? Is there internet connection? -- Jeff === | _ | | _| ~~. | | , _} | | ( | === ===== On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:33 PM, John Napiorkowski wrote: I'd prefer next Tuesday over tomorrow, just given how lame the weather is. I'd be happy to add anything to the Catalyst conversation, and do an informal review as well, if people want. By next week Catalyst advent will be started, and between now and then I am a bit busy trying to get enough articles together. --jnap On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:23 PM, Will Braswell wrote: I have 1 yes (from Joe) so far. Jack? boftx? Jeff? Frank? On 11/25/2013 at 1:33 PM, "Joe Axford" wrote: yes Jeff: can you make it if we move the meeting to next Tuesday 12/3 at 7pm? boftx: same question? Frank: same question? Jack: same question? Joe: same question? Thanks! ~ Will On 11/25/2013 at 1:01 PM, "Frank Sheiness" wrote: I'm interested in this one as well and I can make it but I understand this probably isn't a good week for a lot of people who might be going on vacation. On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Jeffrey Benton wrote: I was interested in attending this because I am currently working on a catalyst based project at work, but I can't because I am leaving town for thanksgiving. I will need to check with my boss, but if he oks it, I would be willing to informally share what I have been working on. -- Jeff === | _ | | _| ~~. | | , _} | | ( | === ===== On Monday, November 25, 2013 9:17 AM, Jack Lupton wrote: Sorry, I have a conflict. Also, I never said anything about giving a presentation. An informal discussion might be more appropriate. I could rearrange my plans, and blow off the learning python meetup. Is anyone else going to be at Austin Perl Mongers? I've been working on chained dispatch types when I get the time. I've had to return to my 'job at the factory'. So, once again, I'm having trouble making time for that which really drives me, Perl 5. On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Will Braswell wrote: Howdy Perl Mongers, Our monthly meeting is this Tuesday, November 26th, at 7:00pm. Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf 13376 N. Highway 183, Suite 800, Austin, TX Per Jack Lupton's request, our topic will be the Catalyst web app framework. Hopefully Jack will be in attendance and ready to give a brief Catalyst presentation! Also, I've updated our website at the austin.pm domain, and the austin.pm.org domain should now properly forward. 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URL: From jacklupton at gmail.com Tue Dec 3 15:57:49 2013 From: jacklupton at gmail.com (Jack Lupton) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 17:57:49 -0600 Subject: APM: Catalyst Meeting TONIGHT Tues 12/3 7pm In-Reply-To: <20131203231518.150D320111@smtp.hushmail.com> References: <20131125080303.D6EFF20112@smtp.hushmail.com> <1385398349.80507.YahooMailNeo@web164503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20131125191332.77BAF20111@smtp.hushmail.com> <20131125200128.42E9B20111@smtp.hushmail.com> <1385411564.58797.YahooMailNeo@web140806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1385414222.12725.YahooMailNeo@web164501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1386093000.75088.YahooMailNeo@web164505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20131203225245.121B020111@smtp.hushmail.com> <20131203231518.150D320111@smtp.hushmail.com> Message-ID: Yes. Thank you, Will. On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Will Braswell wrote: > I think Jack meant for this to go out to everyone. > > On 12/3/2013 at 5:14 PM, "Jack Lupton" wrote: > > They do have internet, good coffee, and nice servers. Suite 800. Ha! it's > a stand-alone shop in the parking lot. Don't be looking for a building of > at least 8 stories. > > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Will Braswell wrote: > >> Howdy Mongers, >> >> We will meet TONIGHT at 7:00pm: >> >> Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf >> 13376 N. Highway 183, Suite 800, Austin, TX >> >> I'll be wearing a green Scouting shirt and should have some kind of Perl >> banner with me. >> >> There is not a projector available at the coffee shop, y'all are welcome >> to bring your own projector and we'll just have to figure out a way to make >> it work. >> >> Feel free to text me if you have any questions! >> >> Perling, >> ~ Will, Austin.pm Prez >> 512.563.7984 cell >> >> >> >> On 12/3/2013 at 2:29 PM, "Jack Lupton" wrote: >> >> I'm looking forward to the meeting tonight as well. The setup at Coffee >> Bean and Tea Leaf is pretty informal. For a small group it should be okay. >> There is no projector, screen, or separate meeting room and they close at >> 9pm. Meeting space in Austin seems to be at a premium right now and hard to >> find. If we ever get a big group of 20 or 25 like we did 10 years ago, we >> might be in trouble. >> >> I have not had time to work with Catalyst over the past couple of weeks. >> Had to go back to my paying job for a while. I'm still interested in >> chained dispatch actions. I think I've got it, but some refresher on that >> would be great. I'm also interested in how static content is included in a >> Catalyst application. My understanding is that Template Toolkit is mostly >> used for specifying the type of response. How much of it used for actually >> templating? What should I be doing with Catalyst, and Template Toolkit as >> opposed to incorporating JavaScript libraries. I watched the video of Casey >> West's talk 'How to be a web UI developer'. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68O0Wso_XuU It's pretty great with a lot >> of ideas and tools introduced. But, how does one incorporate those into a >> Catalyst application. >> >> I was making real progress on this stuff until about 3 weeks ago. I can't >> wait to get back to it. >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Jeffrey Benton > > wrote: >> >>> I am all ready for tonight. Are we still on? I have not been to an APM >>> meeting before so how do these things work? Interactive presentation >>> style, presentation with questions at the end? How long? Also, I have >>> stuff on a pc laptop, is there a projector or do I need to bring one. >>> >>> -- Jeff >>> >>> === >>> | _ | >>> | _| ~~. | >>> | \, _} | >>> | \( | >>> === >>> ===== >>> >>> >>> On Monday, November 25, 2013 3:17 PM, Jeffrey Benton < >>> jeffreyrbenton at yahoo.com> wrote: >>> I talked to my boss about showing stuff off and he said that would be >>> fine. I just can't hand out any code. I can do next week, 12/3, but >>> 12/10 would work better. >>> >>> I have not been to any APM meetings yet so I am sorry if these are dumb >>> questions. Is there a projector? Is there internet connection? >>> >>> -- Jeff >>> >>> === >>> | _ | >>> | _| ~~. | >>> | \, _} | >>> | \( | >>> === >>> ===== >>> >>> >>> On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:33 PM, John Napiorkowski < >>> jjn1056 at yahoo.com> wrote: >>> I'd prefer next Tuesday over tomorrow, just given how lame the >>> weather is. I'd be happy to add anything to the Catalyst conversation, and >>> do an informal review as well, if people want. By next week Catalyst >>> advent will be started, and between now and then I am a bit busy trying to >>> get enough articles together. >>> >>> --jnap >>> >>> >>> On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:23 PM, Will Braswell < >>> wbraswell at hush.com> wrote: >>> I have 1 yes (from Joe) so far. >>> >>> Jack? boftx? Jeff? Frank? >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11/25/2013 at 1:33 PM, "Joe Axford" wrote: >>> >>> yes >>> >>> >>> Jeff: can you make it if we move the meeting to next Tuesday 12/3 at >>> 7pm? >>> >>> boftx: same question? >>> >>> Frank: same question? >>> >>> Jack: same question? >>> >>> Joe: same question? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> ~ Will >>> >>> >>> On 11/25/2013 at 1:01 PM, "Frank Sheiness" wrote: >>> I'm interested in this one as well and I can make it but I understand >>> this probably isn't a good week for a lot of people who might be going on >>> vacation. >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Jeffrey Benton < >>> jeffreyrbenton at yahoo.com> wrote: >>> I was interested in attending this because I am currently working on a >>> catalyst based project at work, but I can't because I am leaving town for >>> thanksgiving. I will need to check with my boss, but if he oks it, I would >>> be willing to informally share what I have been working on. >>> >>> -- Jeff >>> >>> === >>> | _ | >>> | _| ~~. | >>> | \, _} | >>> | \( | >>> === >>> ===== >>> >>> On Monday, November 25, 2013 9:17 AM, Jack Lupton < >>> jacklupton at gmail.com> wrote: >>> Sorry, I have a conflict. Also, I never said anything about giving a >>> presentation. An informal discussion might be more appropriate. I could >>> rearrange my plans, and blow off the learning python meetup. Is anyone else >>> going to be at Austin Perl Mongers? >>> I've been working on chained dispatch types when I get the time. I've >>> had to return to my 'job at the factory'. So, once again, I'm having >>> trouble making time for that which really drives me, Perl 5. >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Will Braswell >>> wrote: >>> Howdy Perl Mongers, >>> >>> Our monthly meeting is this Tuesday, November 26th, at 7:00pm. >>> >>> Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf >>> 13376 N. Highway 183, Suite 800, Austin, TX >>> >>> Per Jack Lupton's request, our topic will be the Catalyst web app >>> framework. Hopefully Jack will be in attendance and ready to give a brief >>> Catalyst presentation! >>> >>> Also, I've updated our website at the austin.pm domain, and the >>> austin.pm.org domain should now properly forward. Please take a moment >>> to let me know what you think: >>> >>> http://austin.pm >>> >>> Perling, >>> ~ Will >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Austin mailing list >>> Austin at pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Austin mailing list >>> Austin at pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Austin mailing list >>> Austin at pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Austin mailing list >>> Austin at pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Austin mailing list >>> Austin at pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Austin mailing list >>> Austin at pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Austin mailing list > Austin at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jjn1056 at yahoo.com Tue Dec 3 17:37:57 2013 From: jjn1056 at yahoo.com (John Napiorkowski) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 19:37:57 -0600 Subject: APM: Catalyst Meeting TONIGHT Tues 12/3 7pm In-Reply-To: References: <20131125080303.D6EFF20112@smtp.hushmail.com> <1385398349.80507.YahooMailNeo@web164503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20131125191332.77BAF20111@smtp.hushmail.com> <20131125200128.42E9B20111@smtp.hushmail.com> <1385411564.58797.YahooMailNeo@web140806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1385414222.12725.YahooMailNeo@web164501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1386093000.75088.YahooMailNeo@web164505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20131203225245.121B020111@smtp.hushmail.com> <20131203231518.150D320111@smtp.hushmail.com> Message-ID: Hey I'm trying to find a location but it doesn't seem to have gotten me to the right place when I looked this up on Google maps. Is anybody happened to see this before the meeting is over perhaps if you could email a Google maps link or something so I can find that would be great thanks. John Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 3, 2013, at 5:57 PM, Jack Lupton wrote: > > Yes. Thank you, Will. > > >> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Will Braswell wrote: >> I think Jack meant for this to go out to everyone. >> >> On 12/3/2013 at 5:14 PM, "Jack Lupton" wrote: >> They do have internet, good coffee, and nice servers. Suite 800. Ha! it's a stand-alone shop in the parking lot. Don't be looking for a building of at least 8 stories. >> >> >>> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Will Braswell wrote: >>> Howdy Mongers, >>> >>> We will meet TONIGHT at 7:00pm: >>> >>> Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf >>> 13376 N. Highway 183, Suite 800, Austin, TX >>> >>> I'll be wearing a green Scouting shirt and should have some kind of Perl banner with me. >>> >>> There is not a projector available at the coffee shop, y'all are welcome to bring your own projector and we'll just have to figure out a way to make it work. >>> >>> Feel free to text me if you have any questions! >>> >>> Perling, >>> ~ Will, Austin.pm Prez >>> 512.563.7984 cell >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12/3/2013 at 2:29 PM, "Jack Lupton" wrote: >>> I'm looking forward to the meeting tonight as well. The setup at Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf is pretty informal. For a small group it should be okay. There is no projector, screen, or separate meeting room and they close at 9pm. Meeting space in Austin seems to be at a premium right now and hard to find. If we ever get a big group of 20 or 25 like we did 10 years ago, we might be in trouble. >>> >>> I have not had time to work with Catalyst over the past couple of weeks. Had to go back to my paying job for a while. I'm still interested in chained dispatch actions. I think I've got it, but some refresher on that would be great. I'm also interested in how static content is included in a Catalyst application. My understanding is that Template Toolkit is mostly used for specifying the type of response. How much of it used for actually templating? What should I be doing with Catalyst, and Template Toolkit as opposed to incorporating JavaScript libraries. I watched the video of Casey West's talk 'How to be a web UI developer'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68O0Wso_XuU It's pretty great with a lot of ideas and tools introduced. But, how does one incorporate those into a Catalyst application. >>> >>> I was making real progress on this stuff until about 3 weeks ago. I can't wait to get back to it. >>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Jeffrey Benton wrote: >>>> I am all ready for tonight. Are we still on? I have not been to an APM meeting before so how do these things work? Interactive presentation style, presentation with questions at the end? How long? Also, I have stuff on a pc laptop, is there a projector or do I need to bring one. >>>> >>>> -- Jeff >>>> >>>> === >>>> | _ | >>>> | _| ~~. | >>>> | \, _} | >>>> | \( | >>>> === >>>> ===== >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, November 25, 2013 3:17 PM, Jeffrey Benton wrote: >>>> I talked to my boss about showing stuff off and he said that would be fine. I just can't hand out any code. I can do next week, 12/3, but 12/10 would work better. >>>> >>>> I have not been to any APM meetings yet so I am sorry if these are dumb questions. Is there a projector? Is there internet connection? >>>> >>>> -- Jeff >>>> >>>> === >>>> | _ | >>>> | _| ~~. | >>>> | \, _} | >>>> | \( | >>>> === >>>> ===== >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:33 PM, John Napiorkowski wrote: >>>> I'd prefer next Tuesday over tomorrow, just given how lame the weather is. I'd be happy to add anything to the Catalyst conversation, and do an informal review as well, if people want. By next week Catalyst advent will be started, and between now and then I am a bit busy trying to get enough articles together. >>>> >>>> --jnap >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:23 PM, Will Braswell wrote: >>>> I have 1 yes (from Joe) so far. >>>> >>>> Jack? boftx? Jeff? Frank? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/25/2013 at 1:33 PM, "Joe Axford" wrote: >>>> yes >>>> >>>> >>>> Jeff: can you make it if we move the meeting to next Tuesday 12/3 at 7pm? >>>> >>>> boftx: same question? >>>> >>>> Frank: same question? >>>> >>>> Jack: same question? >>>> >>>> Joe: same question? >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> ~ Will >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/25/2013 at 1:01 PM, "Frank Sheiness" wrote: >>>> I'm interested in this one as well and I can make it but I understand this probably isn't a good week for a lot of people who might be going on vacation. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Jeffrey Benton wrote: >>>> I was interested in attending this because I am currently working on a catalyst based project at work, but I can't because I am leaving town for thanksgiving. I will need to check with my boss, but if he oks it, I would be willing to informally share what I have been working on. >>>> >>>> -- Jeff >>>> >>>> === >>>> | _ | >>>> | _| ~~. | >>>> | \, _} | >>>> | \( | >>>> === >>>> ===== >>>> >>>> On Monday, November 25, 2013 9:17 AM, Jack Lupton wrote: >>>> Sorry, I have a conflict. Also, I never said anything about giving a presentation. An informal discussion might be more appropriate. I could rearrange my plans, and blow off the learning python meetup. Is anyone else going to be at Austin Perl Mongers? >>>> I've been working on chained dispatch types when I get the time. I've had to return to my 'job at the factory'. So, once again, I'm having trouble making time for that which really drives me, Perl 5. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Will Braswell wrote: >>>> Howdy Perl Mongers, >>>> >>>> Our monthly meeting is this Tuesday, November 26th, at 7:00pm. >>>> >>>> Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf >>>> 13376 N. Highway 183, Suite 800, Austin, TX >>>> >>>> Per Jack Lupton's request, our topic will be the Catalyst web app framework. Hopefully Jack will be in attendance and ready to give a brief Catalyst presentation! >>>> >>>> Also, I've updated our website at the austin.pm domain, and the austin.pm.org domain should now properly forward. Please take a moment to let me know what you think: >>>> >>>> http://austin.pm >>>> >>>> Perling, >>>> ~ Will >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Austin mailing list >>>> Austin at pm.org >>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Austin mailing list >>>> Austin at pm.org >>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Austin mailing list >>>> Austin at pm.org >>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Austin mailing list >>>> Austin at pm.org >>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Austin mailing list >>>> Austin at pm.org >>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Austin mailing list >>>> Austin at pm.org >>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Austin mailing list >> Austin at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin > > _______________________________________________ > Austin mailing list > Austin at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jacklupton at gmail.com Tue Dec 3 20:34:58 2013 From: jacklupton at gmail.com (Jack Lupton) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 22:34:58 -0600 Subject: APM: Catalyst Meeting TONIGHT Tues 12/3 7pm In-Reply-To: References: <20131125080303.D6EFF20112@smtp.hushmail.com> <1385398349.80507.YahooMailNeo@web164503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20131125191332.77BAF20111@smtp.hushmail.com> <20131125200128.42E9B20111@smtp.hushmail.com> <1385411564.58797.YahooMailNeo@web140806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1385414222.12725.YahooMailNeo@web164501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1386093000.75088.YahooMailNeo@web164505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20131203225245.121B020111@smtp.hushmail.com> <20131203231518.150D320111@smtp.hushmail.com> Message-ID: Hey John, Just got this. I'm really glad you found it. That was a great meeting. Very informative. Jack On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 7:37 PM, John Napiorkowski wrote: > Hey I'm trying to find a location but it doesn't seem to have gotten me to > the right place when I looked this up on Google maps. Is anybody happened > to see this before the meeting is over perhaps if you could email a Google > maps link or something so I can find that would be great thanks. John > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 3, 2013, at 5:57 PM, Jack Lupton wrote: > > Yes. Thank you, Will. > > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Will Braswell wrote: > >> I think Jack meant for this to go out to everyone. >> >> On 12/3/2013 at 5:14 PM, "Jack Lupton" wrote: >> >> They do have internet, good coffee, and nice servers. Suite 800. Ha! it's >> a stand-alone shop in the parking lot. Don't be looking for a building of >> at least 8 stories. >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Will Braswell wrote: >> >>> Howdy Mongers, >>> >>> We will meet TONIGHT at 7:00pm: >>> >>> Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf >>> 13376 N. Highway 183, Suite 800, Austin, TX >>> >>> I'll be wearing a green Scouting shirt and should have some kind of Perl >>> banner with me. >>> >>> There is not a projector available at the coffee shop, y'all are welcome >>> to bring your own projector and we'll just have to figure out a way to make >>> it work. >>> >>> Feel free to text me if you have any questions! >>> >>> Perling, >>> ~ Will, Austin.pm Prez >>> 512.563.7984 cell >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12/3/2013 at 2:29 PM, "Jack Lupton" wrote: >>> >>> I'm looking forward to the meeting tonight as well. The setup at Coffee >>> Bean and Tea Leaf is pretty informal. For a small group it should be okay. >>> There is no projector, screen, or separate meeting room and they close at >>> 9pm. Meeting space in Austin seems to be at a premium right now and hard to >>> find. If we ever get a big group of 20 or 25 like we did 10 years ago, we >>> might be in trouble. >>> >>> I have not had time to work with Catalyst over the past couple of weeks. >>> Had to go back to my paying job for a while. I'm still interested in >>> chained dispatch actions. I think I've got it, but some refresher on that >>> would be great. I'm also interested in how static content is included in a >>> Catalyst application. My understanding is that Template Toolkit is mostly >>> used for specifying the type of response. How much of it used for actually >>> templating? What should I be doing with Catalyst, and Template Toolkit as >>> opposed to incorporating JavaScript libraries. I watched the video of Casey >>> West's talk 'How to be a web UI developer'. >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68O0Wso_XuU It's pretty great with a >>> lot of ideas and tools introduced. But, how does one incorporate those into >>> a Catalyst application. >>> >>> I was making real progress on this stuff until about 3 weeks ago. I >>> can't wait to get back to it. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Jeffrey Benton < >>> jeffreyrbenton at yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I am all ready for tonight. Are we still on? I have not been to an >>>> APM meeting before so how do these things work? Interactive presentation >>>> style, presentation with questions at the end? How long? Also, I have >>>> stuff on a pc laptop, is there a projector or do I need to bring one. >>>> >>>> -- Jeff >>>> >>>> === >>>> | _ | >>>> | _| ~~. | >>>> | \, _} | >>>> | \( | >>>> === >>>> ===== >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, November 25, 2013 3:17 PM, Jeffrey Benton < >>>> jeffreyrbenton at yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> I talked to my boss about showing stuff off and he said that would >>>> be fine. I just can't hand out any code. I can do next week, 12/3, but >>>> 12/10 would work better. >>>> >>>> I have not been to any APM meetings yet so I am sorry if these are dumb >>>> questions. Is there a projector? Is there internet connection? >>>> >>>> -- Jeff >>>> >>>> === >>>> | _ | >>>> | _| ~~. | >>>> | \, _} | >>>> | \( | >>>> === >>>> ===== >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:33 PM, John Napiorkowski < >>>> jjn1056 at yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> I'd prefer next Tuesday over tomorrow, just given how lame the >>>> weather is. I'd be happy to add anything to the Catalyst conversation, and >>>> do an informal review as well, if people want. By next week Catalyst >>>> advent will be started, and between now and then I am a bit busy trying to >>>> get enough articles together. >>>> >>>> --jnap >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:23 PM, Will Braswell < >>>> wbraswell at hush.com> wrote: >>>> I have 1 yes (from Joe) so far. >>>> >>>> Jack? boftx? Jeff? Frank? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/25/2013 at 1:33 PM, "Joe Axford" wrote: >>>> >>>> yes >>>> >>>> >>>> Jeff: can you make it if we move the meeting to next Tuesday 12/3 at >>>> 7pm? >>>> >>>> boftx: same question? >>>> >>>> Frank: same question? >>>> >>>> Jack: same question? >>>> >>>> Joe: same question? >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> ~ Will >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/25/2013 at 1:01 PM, "Frank Sheiness" wrote: >>>> I'm interested in this one as well and I can make it but I understand >>>> this probably isn't a good week for a lot of people who might be going on >>>> vacation. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Jeffrey Benton < >>>> jeffreyrbenton at yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> I was interested in attending this because I am currently working on >>>> a catalyst based project at work, but I can't because I am leaving town for >>>> thanksgiving. I will need to check with my boss, but if he oks it, I would >>>> be willing to informally share what I have been working on. >>>> >>>> -- Jeff >>>> >>>> === >>>> | _ | >>>> | _| ~~. | >>>> | \, _} | >>>> | \( | >>>> === >>>> ===== >>>> >>>> On Monday, November 25, 2013 9:17 AM, Jack Lupton < >>>> jacklupton at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Sorry, I have a conflict. Also, I never said anything about giving >>>> a presentation. An informal discussion might be more appropriate. I could >>>> rearrange my plans, and blow off the learning python meetup. Is anyone else >>>> going to be at Austin Perl Mongers? >>>> I've been working on chained dispatch types when I get the time. I've >>>> had to return to my 'job at the factory'. So, once again, I'm having >>>> trouble making time for that which really drives me, Perl 5. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Will Braswell >>>> wrote: >>>> Howdy Perl Mongers, >>>> >>>> Our monthly meeting is this Tuesday, November 26th, at 7:00pm. >>>> >>>> Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf >>>> 13376 N. Highway 183, Suite 800, Austin, TX >>>> >>>> Per Jack Lupton's request, our topic will be the Catalyst web app >>>> framework. Hopefully Jack will be in attendance and ready to give a brief >>>> Catalyst presentation! >>>> >>>> Also, I've updated our website at the austin.pm domain, and the >>>> austin.pm.org domain should now properly forward. 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John On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:35 PM, Jack Lupton wrote: Hey John, Just got this. I'm really glad you found it. That was a great meeting. Very informative. Jack On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 7:37 PM, John Napiorkowski wrote: Hey I'm trying to find a location but it doesn't seem to have gotten me to the right place when I looked this up on Google maps. ?Is anybody happened to see this before the meeting is over perhaps if you could email a Google maps link or something so I can find that would be great thanks. John > >Sent from my iPhone > >On Dec 3, 2013, at 5:57 PM, Jack Lupton wrote: > > >Yes. Thank you, Will. >> >> >> >>On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Will Braswell wrote: >> >>I think Jack meant for this to go out to everyone. >>> >>>On 12/3/2013 at 5:14 PM, "Jack Lupton" wrote: >>>They do have internet, good coffee, and nice servers. Suite 800. Ha! it's a stand-alone shop in the parking lot. Don't be looking for a building of at least 8 stories.? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Will Braswell wrote: >>>> >>>>Howdy Mongers, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>We will meet TONIGHT at 7:00pm: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf >>>>>13376 N. Highway 183, Suite 800, Austin, TX >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I'll be wearing a green Scouting shirt and should have some kind of Perl banner with me. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>There is not a projector available at the coffee shop, y'all are welcome to bring your own projector and we'll just have to figure out a way to make it work. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Feel free to text me if you have any questions! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Perling, >>>>>~ Will, Austin.pm Prez >>>>>512.563.7984 cell >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On 12/3/2013 at 2:29 PM, "Jack Lupton" wrote: >>>>>I'm looking forward to the meeting tonight as well. The setup at Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf is pretty informal. For a small group it should be okay. There is no projector, screen, or separate meeting room and they close at 9pm. Meeting space in Austin seems to be at a premium right now and hard to find. If we ever get a big group of 20 or 25 like we did 10 years ago, we might be in trouble.? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I have not had time to work with Catalyst over the past couple of weeks. Had to go back to my paying job for a while. I'm still interested in chained dispatch actions. I think I've got it, but some refresher on that would be great. I'm also interested in how static content is included in a Catalyst application. My understanding is that Template Toolkit is mostly used for specifying the type of response. How much of it used for actually templating? What should I be doing with Catalyst, and Template Toolkit as opposed to incorporating JavaScript libraries. I watched the video of Casey West's talk 'How to be a web UI developer'.?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68O0Wso_XuU? It's pretty great with a lot of ideas and tools introduced. But, how does one incorporate those into a Catalyst application.?? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I was making real progress on this stuff until about 3 weeks ago. I can't wait to get back to it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Jeffrey Benton wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>I am all ready for tonight.? Are we still on?? I have not been to an APM meeting before so how do these things work?? Interactive presentation style, presentation with questions at the end?? How long?? Also, I have stuff on a pc laptop, is there a projector or do I need to bring one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>? >>>>>>>-- Jeff >>>>>>> >>>>>>>=== >>>>>>>|?? _??? | >>>>>>>| _| ~~. | >>>>>>>| \,? _} | >>>>>>>|?? \(?? | >>>>>>>=== >>>>>>>===== >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On Monday, November 25, 2013 3:17 PM, Jeffrey Benton wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I talked to my boss about showing stuff off and he said that would be fine.? I just can't hand out any code. ? I can do next week, 12/3,? but 12/10 would work better. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I have not been to any APM meetings yet so I am sorry if these are dumb questions. Is there a projector?? Is there internet connection? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-- Jeff >>>>>>> >>>>>>>=== >>>>>>>|?? _??? | >>>>>>>| _| ~~. | >>>>>>>| \,? _} | >>>>>>>|?? \(?? | >>>>>>>=== >>>>>>>===== >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:33 PM, John Napiorkowski wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I'd prefer next Tuesday over tomorrow, just given how lame the weather is. ?I'd be happy to add anything to the Catalyst conversation, and do an informal review as well, if people want. ?By next week Catalyst advent will be started, and between now and then I am a bit busy trying to get enough articles together. ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>--jnap >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:23 PM, Will Braswell wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I have 1 yes (from Joe) so far. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Jack? ?boftx? ?Jeff? ?Frank? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On 11/25/2013 at 1:33 PM, "Joe Axford" wrote: >>>>>>>yes >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Jeff: can you make it if we move the meeting to next Tuesday 12/3 at 7pm? ? >>>>>>>>? >>>>>>>>boftx: same question? >>>>>>>>? >>>>>>>>Frank: same question? >>>>>>>>? >>>>>>>>Jack: same question? >>>>>>>>? >>>>>>>>Joe: same question? >>>>>>>>? >>>>>>>>Thanks! >>>>>>>>~ Will >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On 11/25/2013 at 1:01 PM, "Frank Sheiness" wrote: >>>>>>>>I'm interested in this one as well and I can make it but I understand this probably isn't a good week for a lot of people who might be going on vacation. >>>>>>>>? >>>>>>>>On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Jeffrey Benton wrote: >>>>>>>>I was interested in attending this because I am currently working on a catalyst based project at work, but I can't because I am leaving town for thanksgiving.? I will need to check with my boss, but if he oks it, I would be willing to informally share what I have been working on. >>>>>>>>? >>>>>>>>-- Jeff >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>=== >>>>>>>>|?? _??? | >>>>>>>>| _| ~~. | >>>>>>>>| \,? _} | >>>>>>>>|?? \(?? | >>>>>>>>=== >>>>>>>>===== >>>>>>>>? >>>>>>>>On Monday, November 25, 2013 9:17 AM, Jack Lupton wrote: >>>>>>>>Sorry, I have a conflict. Also, I never said anything about giving a presentation. An informal discussion might be more appropriate. I could rearrange my plans, and blow off the learning python meetup. Is anyone else going to be at Austin Perl Mongers? >>>>>>>>I've been working on chained dispatch types when I get the time. I've had to return to my 'job at the factory'. So, once again, I'm having trouble making time for that which really drives me, Perl 5. >>>>>>>>? >>>>>>>>On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Will Braswell wrote: >>>>>>>>Howdy Perl Mongers, >>>>>>>>? >>>>>>>>Our monthly meeting is this Tuesday, November 26th, at 7:00pm. >>>>>>>>? >>>>>>>>Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf >>>>>>>>13376 N. Highway 183, Suite 800, Austin, TX >>>>>>>>? >>>>>>>>Per Jack Lupton's request, our topic will be the Catalyst web app framework. ?Hopefully Jack will be in attendance and ready to give a brief Catalyst presentation! >>>>>>>>? >>>>>>>>Also, I've updated our website at the austin.pm domain, and the austin.pm.org domain should now properly forward. ?Please take a moment to let me know what you think: >>>>>>>>? >>>>>>>>http://austin.pm >>>>>>>>? >>>>>>>>Perling, >>>>>>>>~ Will >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>Austin mailing list >>>>>>>>Austin at pm.org >>>>>>>>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >>>>>>>>? >>>>>>>>? >>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>Austin mailing list >>>>>>>>Austin at pm.org >>>>>>>>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >>>>>>>>? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>Austin mailing list >>>>>>>>Austin at pm.org >>>>>>>>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >>>>>>>>? >>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>Austin mailing list >>>>>>>Austin at pm.org >>>>>>>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>Austin mailing list >>>>>>>Austin at pm.org >>>>>>>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>Austin mailing list >>>>>>>Austin at pm.org >>>>>>>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Austin mailing list >>>Austin at pm.org >>>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin >>> >> >_______________________________________________ >>Austin mailing list >>Austin at pm.org >>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks! Johnn On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 11:09 PM, Will Braswell wrote: Howdy Mongers, We had an awesome meeting tonight, Jeff Benton gave a very informative presentation about the use of Catalyst at his company Algebraix. Tonight is the last night to make a pledge to support our new RPerl compiler on Kickstarter, please take the time to do so now if you haven't already! http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wbraswell/perl-5-optimizing-compiler-rperl-v10 The famous Catalyst and Perl hacker Matt Trout (mst) will be coming to visit Austin for much of December and early January. ?There was consensus at tonight's meeting that we should hold special meeting(s) with mst, I'll write back to the list once he tells me his schedule over the next few weeks. Thanks everyone! 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From the feedback I've gathered about the class, it seems that ACC could use a few good Perl teachers! Sorry I don't personally have any contacts to give you, somebody else might or you could just cold-call ACC and ask for a job app. :-) I love the idea of a BBQ party, I'm also kicking around the idea of "A Very Perl Christmas Party" which may be related... Maybe we'll include mst as well, I'll write the list in a few days when I know more about his Austin visit. Thanks again for a great meeting yesterday, everybody! Perling,~ Will, Austin.pm Prez On 12/4/2013 at 10:03 AM, "John Napiorkowski" wrote:Hey Guys, One thing I meant to ask around but ran out of time, is if anyone has any contacts with someone in a local school or community college. I'm pretty stoked to teach a programming class but I don't know anyone around here to get an in with the coordinator. If anyone has a suggestion or could make an introduction I'd be very grateful. Thanks! Johnn On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 11:09 PM, Will Braswell wrote: Howdy Mongers, We had an awesome meeting tonight, Jeff Benton gave a very informative presentation about the use of Catalyst at his company Algebraix. Tonight is the last night to make a pledge to support our new RPerl compiler on Kickstarter, please take the time to do so now if you haven't already! http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wbraswell/perl-5-optimizing-compiler-rperl-v10 The famous Catalyst and Perl hacker Matt Trout (mst) will be coming to visit Austin for much of December and early January. There was consensus at tonight's meeting that we should hold special meeting(s) with mst, I'll write back to the list once he tells me his schedule over the next few weeks. Thanks everyone! Perling,~ Will, Austin.pm Prez _______________________________________________ Austin mailing list Austin at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark.voltz at gmail.com Thu Dec 5 06:54:40 2013 From: mark.voltz at gmail.com (Mark Voltz) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 08:54:40 -0600 Subject: APM: Austin Community College Perl Class, BBQ Party In-Reply-To: <20131205034209.5C96120115@smtp.hushmail.com> References: <20131125080303.D6EFF20112@smtp.hushmail.com> <1385398349.80507.YahooMailNeo@web164503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20131125191332.77BAF20111@smtp.hushmail.com> <20131125200128.42E9B20111@smtp.hushmail.com> <1385411564.58797.YahooMailNeo@web140806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1385414222.12725.YahooMailNeo@web164501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1386093000.75088.YahooMailNeo@web164505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20131203225245.121B020111@smtp.hushmail.com> <20131204050922.A9EC820116@smtp.hushmail.com> <1386173014.91440.YahooMailNeo@web140805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20131205034209.5C96120115@smtp.hushmail.com> Message-ID: Not sure if Bob is still there but he's a super nice guy and may be able to get you in touch with the right folks. -mark Bob McGoldrick, PMP Coordinator, High Technology Institute Austin Community College 5930 Middle Fiskville Rd. Austin, TX 78752 rmcgoldr at austincc.edu www.austincc.edu/techcert On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Will Braswell wrote: > John, > > Austin Community College (ACC) has a bunch of campuses in the Austin area, > and I know they do have a Perl class. From the feedback I've gathered > about the class, it seems that ACC could use a few good Perl teachers! > Sorry I don't personally have any contacts to give you, somebody else > might or you could just cold-call ACC and ask for a job app. :-) > > I love the idea of a BBQ party, I'm also kicking around the idea of "A > Very Perl Christmas Party" which may be related... Maybe we'll include mst > as well, I'll write the list in a few days when I know more about his > Austin visit. > > Thanks again for a great meeting yesterday, everybody! > > Perling, > ~ Will, Austin.pm Prez > > > On 12/4/2013 at 10:03 AM, "John Napiorkowski" wrote: > > Hey Guys, > > One thing I meant to ask around but ran out of time, is if anyone has any > contacts with someone in a local school or community college. I'm pretty > stoked to teach a programming class but I don't know anyone around here to > get an in with the coordinator. If anyone has a suggestion or could make > an introduction I'd be very grateful. > > Thanks! > > Johnn > > > On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 11:09 PM, Will Braswell > wrote: > Howdy Mongers, > > We had an awesome meeting tonight, Jeff Benton gave a very informative > presentation about the use of Catalyst at his company Algebraix. > > Tonight is the last night to make a pledge to support our new RPerl > compiler on Kickstarter, please take the time to do so now if you haven't > already! > > > http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wbraswell/perl-5-optimizing-compiler-rperl-v10 > > The famous Catalyst and Perl hacker Matt Trout (mst) will be coming to > visit Austin for much of December and early January. There was consensus > at tonight's meeting that we should hold special meeting(s) with mst, I'll > write back to the list once he tells me his schedule over the next few > weeks. > > Thanks everyone! > > Perling, > ~ Will, Austin.pm Prez > > _______________________________________________ > Austin mailing list > Austin at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin > > > _______________________________________________ > Austin mailing list > Austin at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 12/5/2013 at 8:54 AM, "Mark Voltz" wrote: Not sure if Bob is still there but he's a super nice guy and may be able to get you in touch with the right folks. -mark Bob McGoldrick, PMP Coordinator, High Technology Institute Austin Community College 5930 Middle Fiskville Rd. Austin, TX 78752 rmcgoldr at austincc.edu www.austincc.edu/techcert On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Will Braswell wrote: John, Austin Community College (ACC) has a bunch of campuses in the Austin area, and I know they do have a Perl class. From the feedback I've gathered about the class, it seems that ACC could use a few good Perl teachers! Sorry I don't personally have any contacts to give you, somebody else might or you could just cold-call ACC and ask for a job app. :-) I love the idea of a BBQ party, I'm also kicking around the idea of "A Very Perl Christmas Party" which may be related... Maybe we'll include mst as well, I'll write the list in a few days when I know more about his Austin visit. Thanks again for a great meeting yesterday, everybody! Perling,~ Will, Austin.pm Prez On 12/4/2013 at 10:03 AM, "John Napiorkowski" wrote: Hey Guys, One thing I meant to ask around but ran out of time, is if anyone has any contacts with someone in a local school or community college. I'm pretty stoked to teach a programming class but I don't know anyone around here to get an in with the coordinator. If anyone has a suggestion or could make an introduction I'd be very grateful. Thanks! Johnn On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 11:09 PM, Will Braswell wrote: Howdy Mongers, We had an awesome meeting tonight, Jeff Benton gave a very informative presentation about the use of Catalyst at his company Algebraix. 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URL: From jacklupton at gmail.com Thu Dec 5 08:41:10 2013 From: jacklupton at gmail.com (Jack Lupton) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 10:41:10 -0600 Subject: APM: new meetup group Message-ID: http://www.meetup.com/Perl-Catalyst/ The purpose of this meetup group is to drive new interest and membership to the Austin.pm perl mongers. Meetup.com has not advertised the site yet. When they do It would help attract interest if there were group members already. So, please join up and make a comment if you feel so inclined. Thanks, Jack -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jacklupton at gmail.com Fri Dec 6 07:28:32 2013 From: jacklupton at gmail.com (Jack Lupton) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 09:28:32 -0600 Subject: APM: SPARQL and RDF Message-ID: Hi Everyone, The presenter at the last meeting, Jeff, had a coworker with him who is here from San Diego. I can't remember his name. Maybe Richard. Must take better notes. Anyway, he briefly spoke on SPARQL and RDF. I did make a note on that for further investigation. Lo and behold, this article from the Perl Advent Calendar came to my attention via this week's Perl Weekly article on the Semantic Web. http://www.perladvent.org/2013/2013-12-01.html If anyone is using this at work, or has in depth use cases, it would make for an interesting topic for a meeting or maybe a lightning talk. Jack -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark.voltz at gmail.com Fri Dec 6 11:52:04 2013 From: mark.voltz at gmail.com (Mark Voltz) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 13:52:04 -0600 Subject: APM: Question about learning Perl Message-ID: I hope this is an appropriate question for this group. At some point in your life you didn't know Perl (that's my assumption anyway). What book/class/mentor... helped get you from beginner to wherever you are now? Was it a mixture of multiple influences? Is there an indispensable Perl book that you all have on your shelves? I'm curious because I'd like to learn more Perl but I've got serious limitations on my time. I don't want to shortcut the learning journey but I really don't want to pick up just any old book that may lead me down the wrong path. I guess I'd also like to know if there are materials to avoid as well. Thanks! Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From syndesis at gmail.com Fri Dec 6 12:05:21 2013 From: syndesis at gmail.com (Frank Sheiness) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 14:05:21 -0600 Subject: APM: Question about learning Perl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think these are the recommended resources: http://perl-tutorial.org/ http://perl-begin.org/tutorials/ http://perlmonks.org/index.pl?node=Tutorials http://learn.perl.org/ http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1118013840 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1449303587 Freenode IRC: #perl On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Mark Voltz wrote: > I hope this is an appropriate question for this group. > > At some point in your life you didn't know Perl (that's my assumption > anyway). What book/class/mentor... helped get you from beginner to > wherever you are now? > > Was it a mixture of multiple influences? Is there an indispensable Perl > book that you all have on your shelves? > > I'm curious because I'd like to learn more Perl but I've got serious > limitations on my time. I don't want to shortcut the learning journey but > I really don't want to pick up just any old book that may lead me down the > wrong path. > > I guess I'd also like to know if there are materials to avoid as well. > > Thanks! > Mark > > > _______________________________________________ > Austin mailing list > Austin at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From duff at pobox.com Fri Dec 6 12:06:40 2013 From: duff at pobox.com (Jonathan Scott Duff) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 14:06:40 -0600 Subject: APM: Question about learning Perl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As far as books go, I'd recommend "Modern Perl" by chromatic ( http://www.onyxneon.com/books/modern_perl/index.html) and "Beginning Perl" by Curtis Poe ( http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-1118013840.html) There are also lots of resources at http://learn.perl.org/ For things to avoid ... mostly I'd say stay away from websites that don't end in perl.org or perl.com as often they have out of date or just wrong information. just my humble opinion, -Scott On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Mark Voltz wrote: > I hope this is an appropriate question for this group. > > At some point in your life you didn't know Perl (that's my assumption > anyway). What book/class/mentor... helped get you from beginner to > wherever you are now? > > Was it a mixture of multiple influences? Is there an indispensable Perl > book that you all have on your shelves? > > I'm curious because I'd like to learn more Perl but I've got serious > limitations on my time. I don't want to shortcut the learning journey but > I really don't want to pick up just any old book that may lead me down the > wrong path. > > I guess I'd also like to know if there are materials to avoid as well. > > Thanks! > Mark > > > _______________________________________________ > Austin mailing list > Austin at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffreyrbenton at yahoo.com Fri Dec 6 12:32:50 2013 From: jeffreyrbenton at yahoo.com (Jeffrey Benton) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 12:32:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: APM: Question about learning Perl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1386361970.41267.YahooMailNeo@web164501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Just do it. :) Find a project or something you want to do and start using perl.? I have found that approach the most effective. I have read through the "* Perl" O'Reilly books and found that helpful.? Google helps a lot when I have specific questions.? Reading the docs for the modules that I am using. -- Jeff === |?? _??? | | _| ~~. | | \,? _} | |?? \(?? | === ===== On Friday, December 6, 2013 1:52 PM, Mark Voltz wrote: I hope this is an appropriate question for this group. At some point in your life you didn't know Perl (that's my assumption anyway). ?What book/class/mentor... helped get you from beginner to wherever you are now? Was it a mixture of multiple influences? ?Is there an indispensable Perl book that you all have on your shelves? I'm curious because I'd like to learn more Perl but I've got serious limitations on my time. ?I don't want to shortcut the learning journey but I really don't want to pick up just any old book that may lead me down the wrong path. I guess I'd also like to know if there are materials to avoid as well. Thanks! Mark _______________________________________________ Austin mailing list Austin at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeffreyrbenton at yahoo.com Fri Dec 6 12:42:04 2013 From: jeffreyrbenton at yahoo.com (Jeffrey Benton) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 12:42:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: APM: SPARQL and RDF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1386362524.44915.YahooMailNeo@web164504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> That was Kristian.? He works with me at Algebraix Data.? We use RDF::Trine to parse a turtle file (ttl) which has test specification data.? We are looking to move more of our testing infrastructure over to rdf and then query the data out of the database that we are building.? Our product is a sparql endpoint like the one mentioned at the bottom of the article. ? -- Jeff === |?? _??? | | _| ~~. | | \,? _} | |?? \(?? | === ===== On Friday, December 6, 2013 9:29 AM, Jack Lupton wrote: Hi Everyone, ?? The presenter at the last meeting, Jeff, had a coworker with him who is here from San Diego. I can't remember his name. Maybe Richard. Must take better notes. Anyway, he briefly spoke on SPARQL and RDF. I did make a note on that for further investigation. Lo and behold, this article from the Perl Advent Calendar came to my attention via this week's Perl Weekly article on the Semantic Web. http://www.perladvent.org/2013/2013-12-01.html If anyone is using this at work, or has in depth use cases, it would make for an interesting topic for a meeting or maybe a lightning talk. Jack _______________________________________________ Austin mailing list Austin at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jacklupton at gmail.com Fri Dec 6 13:04:46 2013 From: jacklupton at gmail.com (Jack Lupton) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 15:04:46 -0600 Subject: APM: Question about learning Perl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't know why I presume to advise on this, but here I go. I graduated at the age of 47, from a 10 month client/server program at a technical school. There was nothing specific to Perl. I began my love of Linux while there because the c courses were taught on unix servers. I got a dual boot system going on with Windows 98 and Redhat 5.1. I got a job with an ISP because other graduates of the same technical school worked there. We used Perl for CGI scripts to do a lot of things. The transition from a construction career to a programming career was more difficult than I could have imagined. I've never worked around a more gossipy, back stabbing group of people. But I did learn a lot, and I did stick with Perl, Linux, and any database I could use. I was hired on by a staffing company as an employee of record. In that capacity I used Perl to do image manipulation in Sterling, VA, to do XML in Jersey City, NJ, to work with very large data-sets in Chicago, and eventually web reports from a MySQL database in Austin. Fantastic experiences with fantastic people. I then hit a lull because I didn't want to leave Austin to return to the next job with that staffing company in New Jersey. So, back to wood butchery in 2001. I had the O'reilly Perl Bookshelf on CD during that time. It was great. Since then, I've bought just about every Perl book I could. Best Practices, Perl Hacks, Learning Perl and Intermediate Perl are my favorites. Whatever books you choose, do the exercises, work the tutorials, and take the tests. oDesk has tests. There is a multiple choice test that is pretty easy and another writting 10 programs that is a bear. Less than a third pass it. Brainbench tests are okay. I know a lot of people scorn these tests, but they do help find weaknesses to work on. There are lots and lots of exercises available if one searches DuckDuckGo, a search engine built with Perl. Join perlmonks.com and pay attention. The Perl Weekly is fantastic. On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Mark Voltz wrote: > I hope this is an appropriate question for this group. > > At some point in your life you didn't know Perl (that's my assumption > anyway). What book/class/mentor... helped get you from beginner to > wherever you are now? > > Was it a mixture of multiple influences? Is there an indispensable Perl > book that you all have on your shelves? > > I'm curious because I'd like to learn more Perl but I've got serious > limitations on my time. I don't want to shortcut the learning journey but > I really don't want to pick up just any old book that may lead me down the > wrong path. > > I guess I'd also like to know if there are materials to avoid as well. > > Thanks! > Mark > > > _______________________________________________ > Austin mailing list > Austin at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark.voltz at gmail.com Fri Dec 6 14:01:46 2013 From: mark.voltz at gmail.com (Mark Voltz) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 16:01:46 -0600 Subject: APM: Question about learning Perl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks to everyone for the thoughtful (and gentle) responses! Jeffrey's "Find a project or something you want to do" is particularly poignant since a specific project would likely be motivational above and beyond just wanting to know something in a general sense. I sometimes get bogged down like that. Jack, I appreciate your story too and didn't know DDG was a Perl product. -mark On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Jack Lupton wrote: > I don't know why I presume to advise on this, but here I go. I graduated at > the age of 47, from a 10 month client/server program at a technical school. > There was nothing specific to Perl. I began my love of Linux while there > because the c courses were taught on unix servers. I got a dual boot system > going on with Windows 98 and Redhat 5.1. I got a job with an ISP because > other graduates of the same technical school worked there. We used Perl for > CGI scripts to do a lot of things. The transition from a construction career > to a programming career was more difficult than I could have imagined. I've > never worked around a more gossipy, back stabbing group of people. But I did > learn a lot, and I did stick with Perl, Linux, and any database I could use. > I was hired on by a staffing company as an employee of record. In that > capacity I used Perl to do image manipulation in Sterling, VA, to do XML in > Jersey City, NJ, to work with very large data-sets in Chicago, and > eventually web reports from a MySQL database in Austin. Fantastic > experiences with fantastic people. I then hit a lull because I didn't want > to leave Austin to return to the next job with that staffing company in New > Jersey. So, back to wood butchery in 2001. > > I had the O'reilly Perl Bookshelf on CD during that time. It was great. > Since then, I've bought just about every Perl book I could. Best Practices, > Perl Hacks, Learning Perl and Intermediate Perl are my favorites. Whatever > books you choose, do the exercises, work the tutorials, and take the tests. > oDesk has tests. There is a multiple choice test that is pretty easy and > another writting 10 programs that is a bear. Less than a third pass it. > Brainbench tests are okay. I know a lot of people scorn these tests, but > they do help find weaknesses to work on. There are lots and lots of > exercises available if one searches DuckDuckGo, a search engine built with > Perl. > > Join perlmonks.com and pay attention. The Perl Weekly is fantastic. > > > On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Mark Voltz wrote: >> >> I hope this is an appropriate question for this group. >> >> At some point in your life you didn't know Perl (that's my assumption >> anyway). What book/class/mentor... helped get you from beginner to wherever >> you are now? >> >> Was it a mixture of multiple influences? Is there an indispensable Perl >> book that you all have on your shelves? >> >> I'm curious because I'd like to learn more Perl but I've got serious >> limitations on my time. I don't want to shortcut the learning journey but I >> really don't want to pick up just any old book that may lead me down the >> wrong path. >> >> I guess I'd also like to know if there are materials to avoid as well. >> >> Thanks! >> Mark >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Austin mailing list >> Austin at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin > > From Jaxford at nextgen.com Fri Dec 6 14:31:29 2013 From: Jaxford at nextgen.com (Axford, Joe) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 22:31:29 +0000 Subject: APM: Question about learning Perl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mark, For me, working through the learning perl (llama) and most of the intermediate perl (alpaca) books, then finding perldoc::server to easily use perl documentation (I had no linux experience but I was learning), then working through some catalyst (and some dbix::class, html::formhandler, template::toolkit) docs, I came up with a project: yardbirdfanclub.org Then another project: http://blogs.perl.org/users/j0e/2013/02/notes-from-a-newbie.html By then I was well on my way to learning perl. You can get more details if you want to take the time to read this: http://blogs.perl.org/users/j0e/2013/05/notes-from-a-newbie-20-yapcna-2013-austin.html blogs.perl.org, irc.perl.org, perlweekly.com and lots of good people like t0m, mst, Peter Rabbitson, John Nap, Gabor and others helped me solve problems after I first did my best to solve them myself. It took some time and effort, good people and good resources - to include the Internet. Good luck! j0e [cid:austinn1111344d28] ________________________________ Joe Axford R&D Maintenance Engineer NEXTGEN HEALTHCARE Solutions for: Ambulatory, Inpatient and Community Connectivity 12301-B Riata Trace Pkwy., Suite 200, Austin, TX 78727 512-904-4769 [o] [Direct Extension] 64769 Jaxford at nextgen.com NOTICE: This email and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential or proprietary information and are intended solely for authorized use by the intended recipient(s) only. Any other use of this email is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, you are hereby notified that any retention, disclosure, copying, forwarding, distribution (in whole or in part and whether electronically, written and/or orally) and/or taking of any action in reliance on this email, its contents and/or any attachments thereto is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and permanently delete this email, and any attachments thereto, from your system immediately. From: Austin [mailto:austin-bounces+jaxford=nextgen.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Mark Voltz Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 1:52 PM To: Austin Perl Mongers Subject: APM: Question about learning Perl I hope this is an appropriate question for this group. At some point in your life you didn't know Perl (that's my assumption anyway). What book/class/mentor... helped get you from beginner to wherever you are now? Was it a mixture of multiple influences? Is there an indispensable Perl book that you all have on your shelves? I'm curious because I'd like to learn more Perl but I've got serious limitations on my time. I don't want to shortcut the learning journey but I really don't want to pick up just any old book that may lead me down the wrong path. I guess I'd also like to know if there are materials to avoid as well. Thanks! Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: austinn1111344d28 Type: image/jpeg Size: 21901 bytes Desc: austinn1111344d28 URL: From mason.randall at gmail.com Fri Dec 6 20:29:56 2013 From: mason.randall at gmail.com (Mason Randall) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 22:29:56 -0600 Subject: APM: Question about learning Perl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mark- I learned similar to how several already listed -- the Learning Perl then Perl (Alpaca) O'Reilly books. Those are great books and you can find excellent exercises at the end of the Learning Perl chapters that make you really apply what you have just read about. Recently, I have recommended to several people to use http://www.codechef.com/ as a source for finding "projects" to work on and gotten feedback that it was helpful to them. Like many said earlier, find something to do and do it. Make it happen. Sometimes it's hard to think of things that will lead you to diverse challenges, so the Learning Perl book and Code Chef can help supplement that if you don't have a dog like Joe's Yardbird that can use a personal web site. Regards, Mason On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Axford, Joe wrote: > Mark, > > > > For me, working through the learning perl (llama) and most of the > intermediate perl (alpaca) books, then finding perldoc::server to easily > use perl documentation (I had no linux experience but I was learning), then > working through some catalyst (and some dbix::class, html::formhandler, > template::toolkit) docs, I came up with a project: > > > > yardbirdfanclub.org > > > > Then another project: > > > > http://blogs.perl.org/users/j0e/2013/02/notes-from-a-newbie.html > > > > By then I was well on my way to learning perl. > > > > You can get more details if you want to take the time to read this: > > > > > http://blogs.perl.org/users/j0e/2013/05/notes-from-a-newbie-20-yapcna-2013-austin.html > > > > blogs.perl.org, irc.perl.org, perlweekly.com and lots of good people like > t0m, mst, Peter Rabbitson, John Nap, Gabor and others helped me solve > problems after I first did my best to solve them myself. > > > > It took some time and effort, good people and good resources ? to include > the Internet. > > > > Good luck! > > > > j0e > > > > ------------------------------ > *Joe* *Axford* > R&D Maintenance Engineer > > *NEXTGEN HEALTHCARE *Solutions for: Ambulatory, Inpatient and Community > Connectivity > 12301-B Riata Trace Pkwy., Suite 200, Austin, TX 78727 > 512-904-4769 [o] > [Direct Extension] 64769 > Jaxford at nextgen.com > > NOTICE: This email and its attachments, if any, may contain > confidential or proprietary information and are intended solely for > authorized use by the intended recipient(s) only. Any other use of this > email is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, you are > hereby notified that any retention, disclosure, copying, forwarding, > distribution (in whole or in part and whether electronically, written > and/or orally) and/or taking of any action in reliance on this email, its > contents and/or any attachments thereto is strictly prohibited. If you > received this email in error, please notify the sender by replying to this > message and permanently delete this email, and any attachments thereto, > from your system immediately. > > > *From:* Austin [mailto:austin-bounces+jaxford=nextgen.com at pm.org] *On > Behalf Of *Mark Voltz > *Sent:* Friday, December 06, 2013 1:52 PM > *To:* Austin Perl Mongers > *Subject:* APM: Question about learning Perl > > > > I hope this is an appropriate question for this group. > > > > At some point in your life you didn't know Perl (that's my assumption > anyway). What book/class/mentor... helped get you from beginner to > wherever you are now? > > > > Was it a mixture of multiple influences? Is there an indispensable Perl > book that you all have on your shelves? > > > > I'm curious because I'd like to learn more Perl but I've got serious > limitations on my time. I don't want to shortcut the learning journey but > I really don't want to pick up just any old book that may lead me down the > wrong path. > > > > I guess I'd also like to know if there are materials to avoid as well. > > > > Thanks! > > Mark > > > > _______________________________________________ > Austin mailing list > Austin at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Recently, I have recommended to several people to use?http://www.codechef.com/ as a source for finding "projects" to work on and gotten feedback that it was helpful to them. Like many said earlier, find something to do and do it. Make it happen. Sometimes it's hard to think of things that will lead you to diverse challenges, so the Learning Perl book and Code Chef can help supplement that if you don't have a dog like Joe's Yardbird that can use a personal web site. Regards, Mason On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Axford, Joe wrote: Mark, >? >For me, working through the learning perl (llama) and most of the intermediate perl (alpaca) books, then finding perldoc::server to easily use perl documentation (I had no linux experience but I was learning), then working through some catalyst (and some dbix::class, html::formhandler, template::toolkit) docs, I came up with a project: >? >yardbirdfanclub.org >? >Then another project: >? >http://blogs.perl.org/users/j0e/2013/02/notes-from-a-newbie.html >? >By then I was well on my way to learning perl. >? >You can get more details if you want to take the time to read this: >? >http://blogs.perl.org/users/j0e/2013/05/notes-from-a-newbie-20-yapcna-2013-austin.html >? >blogs.perl.org, irc.perl.org, perlweekly.com and lots of good people like t0m, mst, Peter Rabbitson, John Nap, Gabor and others helped me solve problems after I first did my best to solve them myself. >? >It took some time and effort, good people and good resources ? to include the Internet. >? >Good luck! >? >j0e >? > > > >________________________________ > >Joe Axford >R&D Maintenance Engineer >NEXTGEN HEALTHCARE >Solutions for: Ambulatory, Inpatient and Community Connectivity >12301-B Riata Trace Pkwy., Suite 200, Austin, TX 78727 >512-904-4769 [o]? >[Direct Extension] 64769 >Jaxford at nextgen.com >NOTICE: This email and its attachments, if any, may contain confidential or proprietary information and are intended solely for authorized use by the intended recipient(s) only. Any other use of this email is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, you are hereby notified that any retention, disclosure, copying, forwarding, distribution (in whole or in part and whether electronically, written and/or orally) and/or taking of any action in reliance on this email, its contents and/or any attachments thereto is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and permanently delete this email, and any attachments thereto, from your system immediately. > > >From:Austin [mailto:austin-bounces+jaxford=nextgen.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Mark Voltz >Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 1:52 PM >To: Austin Perl Mongers >Subject: APM: Question about learning Perl >? >I hope this is an appropriate question for this group. >? >At some point in your life you didn't know Perl (that's my assumption anyway). ?What book/class/mentor... helped get you from beginner to wherever you are now? >? >Was it a mixture of multiple influences? ?Is there an indispensable Perl book that you all have on your shelves? >? >I'm curious because I'd like to learn more Perl but I've got serious limitations on my time. ?I don't want to shortcut the learning journey but I really don't want to pick up just any old book that may lead me down the wrong path. >? >I guess I'd also like to know if there are materials to avoid as well. >? >Thanks! >Mark >? >_______________________________________________ >Austin mailing list >Austin at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin > _______________________________________________ Austin mailing list Austin at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've since started reading those articles and its good stuff. I'm late to the party as usual. Pick a day, poll the group. After a little back and forth we can pin down a day and topic for the meeting. Or, we can wait until next year. There has not been much interest in the Perl Meetup group. That doesn't really surprise me since anyone interested in Perl should already be a member of Austin.pm. But why is there such low involvement? There are at least 43 members of meetup.com for whom Perl programming is an interest. Best regards, Jack Lupton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wbraswell at hush.com Tue Dec 10 19:33:15 2013 From: wbraswell at hush.com (Will Braswell) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 21:33:15 -0600 Subject: APM: A Very Perl Holiday Party: Moose, Catalyst & Trout In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20131211033316.55E6320116@smtp.hushmail.com> Howdy Mongers, Many of you know by now that we have a very special visitor from Europe, Matt Trout (mst) of Catalyst & Moose & Shadowcat fame! http://shadow.cat/resources/bios/matt_short/ Mr. Trout is making himself available to throw a special Perl Holiday Party with us next Tuesday, December 17, 7pm - 9pm. http://austin.pm/meetings.html I've put out feelers for a good location, unfortunately the private room at Mr. Tramps is not available, as recommended at the last meeting. I'll write back to the mailing list in a day or three with more details. (If you have a good free indoor meeting location with Internet access, please send me a private message.) Please send your RSVP so we can gauge attendance. Thanks! Perling,~ Will, Austin.pm prez On 12/10/2013 at 2:01 PM, "Jack Lupton" wrote:Fellow Perl Mongers, I think no one is going to be interested meeting from right before Christmas until after New Years Day. I think we should schedule a meetup before then. One idea would be an investigation into Moose. We could delve into the more popular and well used of the Catalyst Plugins: why to use, how to install and how to use. I have and application that uses MySQL, HTML::Template, CGI, and DBI. I've used it for invoicing Jack Lupton Light Construction customers for over 5 years. I'd like to convert it to a Catalyst application and add it to the Catalyst application I'm working on currently. John Napiorkowski touched briefly on this kind of effort at the last meeting. I'm also loving his idea of a book compilation of Advent articles. I've since started reading those articles and its good stuff. I'm late to the party as usual. Pick a day, poll the group. After a little back and forth we can pin down a day and topic for the meeting. Or, we can wait until next year. There has not been much interest in the Perl Meetup group. That doesn't really surprise me since anyone interested in Perl should already be a member of Austin.pm. But why is there such low involvement? There are at least 43 members of meetup.com for whom Perl programming is an interest. Best regards, Jack Lupton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wbraswell at hush.com Tue Dec 10 20:09:13 2013 From: wbraswell at hush.com (Will Braswell) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 22:09:13 -0600 Subject: APM: A Very Perl Holiday Party, BB Rovers Restaurant, Tues 12/17 7pm Message-ID: <20131211040913.3E68D20116@smtp.hushmail.com> Howdy Mongers, Thanks to the quick help of Monger Mason Randall, we've located and reserved a location for our Perl Holiday Party! B.B. Rovers Cafe & Pub 12636 Research Boulevard B101, Austin, TX 78759 (512) 335-9504 They have a semi-private back room reserved for us, wireless internet, power outlets, and good food & beer! Don't forget to RSVP, thanks! Perling,~ Will, Austin.pm Prez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jacklupton at gmail.com Tue Dec 10 21:53:28 2013 From: jacklupton at gmail.com (Jack Lupton) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 23:53:28 -0600 Subject: APM: A Very Perl Holiday Party, BB Rovers Restaurant, Tues 12/17 7pm In-Reply-To: <20131211040913.3E68D20116@smtp.hushmail.com> References: <20131211040913.3E68D20116@smtp.hushmail.com> Message-ID: Outstanding! I'll be there. On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Will Braswell wrote: > Howdy Mongers, > > Thanks to the quick help of Monger Mason Randall, we've located and > reserved a location for our Perl Holiday Party! > > B.B. Rovers Cafe & Pub > 12636 Research Boulevard B101, Austin, TX 78759 > (512) 335-9504 > > They have a semi-private back room reserved for us, wireless internet, > power outlets, and good food & beer! > > Don't forget to RSVP, thanks! > > Perling, > ~ Will, Austin.pm Prez > > _______________________________________________ > Austin mailing list > Austin at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jjn1056 at yahoo.com Wed Dec 11 15:05:37 2013 From: jjn1056 at yahoo.com (John Napiorkowski) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 15:05:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: APM: A Very Perl Holiday Party, BB Rovers Restaurant, Tues 12/17 7pm In-Reply-To: References: <20131211040913.3E68D20116@smtp.hushmail.com> Message-ID: <1386803137.43759.YahooMailNeo@web140805.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hi, This is for next Tuesday night? John On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:20 PM, Jack Lupton wrote: Outstanding! I'll be there. On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Will Braswell wrote: Howdy Mongers, > > >Thanks to the quick help of Monger Mason Randall, we've located and reserved a location for our Perl Holiday Party! > > >B.B. Rovers Cafe & Pub >12636 Research Boulevard B101, Austin, TX 78759 >(512) 335-9504 > > >They have a semi-private back room reserved for us, wireless internet, power outlets, and good food & beer! > > >Don't forget to RSVP, thanks! > > >Perling, >~ Will, Austin.pm Prez >_______________________________________________ >Austin mailing list >Austin at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin > _______________________________________________ Austin mailing list Austin at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Rovers Cafe & Pub 12636 Research Boulevard B101, Austin, TX 78759 (512) 335-9504 They have a semi-private back room reserved for us, wireless internet, power outlets, and good food & beer! Don't forget to RSVP, thanks! Perling, ~ Will, Austin.pm Prez _______________________________________________ Austin mailing list Austin at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin _______________________________________________ Austin mailing list Austin at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wbraswell at hush.com Tue Dec 17 03:10:27 2013 From: wbraswell at hush.com (Will Braswell) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 05:10:27 -0600 Subject: APM: TODAY! A Very Perl Holiday Party, BB Rovers Restaurant, 7pm Message-ID: <20131217111027.71A4620118@smtp.hushmail.com> Howdy Mongers, This is a friendly reminder about our Perl Holiday Party! B.B. Rovers Cafe & Pub 12636 Research Boulevard B101, Austin, TX 78759 (512) 335-9504 BB Rovers has a special room reserved for us Mongers, and there is wireless Internet provided. Also, Matt Trout (mst) of Moose & Catalyst fame will be present, vising all the way from England! Perling,~ Will, Austin.pm Prez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jameschoate at austin.rr.com Wed Dec 18 06:13:38 2013 From: jameschoate at austin.rr.com (jameschoate at austin.rr.com) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 14:13:38 +0000 Subject: APM: CRC FYI - NYT Bits - An Homage to Douglas Engelbart and a Critique of the State of Tech Message-ID: <20131218141338.XOA2J.394179.root@cdptpa-web15> I learned of Doug in the early 80's, he was always one of the icons I followed. http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/12/16/an-homage-to-douglas-engelbart-and-a-critique-of-the-state-of-tech/?_r=1& -- -- -- -- Venimus, Vidimus, Dolavimus jameschoate at austin.rr.com jchoate at confusionresearchcenter.org ravage at ssz.com james.choate at g.austincc.edu jchoate00001 at gmail.com james.choate at twcable.com h: 512-657-1279 w: 512-845-8989 http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Confusion_Research_Center http://confusionresearchcenter.org http://arbornet.org (ravage) Adapt, Adopt, Improvise -- -- -- -- From wbraswell at hush.com Wed Dec 18 17:31:18 2013 From: wbraswell at hush.com (Will Braswell) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:31:18 -0600 Subject: APM: A Very Perl Christmas Party Followup, New Sponsor Message-ID: <20131219013121.2A5DD2011A@smtp.hushmail.com> Howdy Mongers, We had a great time over food and beer at our Christmas party, our visiting dignitary Matt Trout (mst) got to field all kinds of questions related to Catalyst, Moose, etc. Attached are some photos we took, in the first one we are giving our new Austin.pm hand sign of "what is your preferred version of Perl". I've got my two fingers up to signify Perl 11. :-) Also, it is my great pleasure to announce HostGator as our newest sponsor! Starting in January we'll have 2 meetings per month, one technical meeting at Hostgator's new facility and one social meeting at a restaurant/pub. Unless there are votes to the contrary, our plan is to continue with Tuesday evenings around 6:30pm starting time. I'll write back to the mailing list as soon as we nail down dates for the new January meetings. Perling,~ Will Braswell, Austin.pm Prezhttp://austin.pm/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: wbraswell_20131217-austin_perl_mongers_01.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1350958 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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NoSQL databases and Perl. Throw some ideas out there, everyone. Austin is the 11th largest city in the US and has a huge technology industry. We need to have an active and involved Perl community. IMHO Tuesday, January 7th? Does that work for HG? I'd like to get an announcement up on the meetup group as soon as possible. Will Matt still be here? I think Reini told me Cpanel has 150 Perl developers. How many does HostGator employ? Would someone there present or lightning talk on how HostGator uses Perl. I imagine mostly for sysadmin work. Are they doing anything with Catalyst? Best Regards, Jack Lupton On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Will Braswell wrote: > Howdy Mongers, > > We had a great time over food and beer at our Christmas party, our > visiting dignitary Matt Trout (mst) got to field all kinds of questions > related to Catalyst, Moose, etc. Attached are some photos we took, in the > first one we are giving our new Austin.pm hand sign of "what is your > preferred version of Perl". I've got my two fingers up to signify Perl 11. > :-) > > Also, it is my great pleasure to announce HostGator as our newest sponsor! > Starting in January we'll have 2 meetings per month, one technical meeting > at Hostgator's new facility and one social meeting at a restaurant/pub. > Unless there are votes to the contrary, our plan is to continue with > Tuesday evenings around 6:30pm starting time. I'll write back to the > mailing list as soon as we nail down dates for the new January meetings. > > Perling, > ~ Will Braswell, Austin.pm Prez > http://austin.pm/ > > _______________________________________________ > Austin mailing list > Austin at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/austin > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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