<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">I would also be interested in getting some meetings going. While presentations and agenda's are good, I would also have interest in attending just social meetings.<div>
<br></div><div>Another thought that occured to me would be to have a meeting with some time for quick "lightning talk" kind of presentations. It seems putting it in that format could ease people nervous about giving a "presentation" into it, and also allow for more informed selections on what topics would have the most interest for a presentation.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Off the top of my head this morning I am not coming up with anything for myself to give such a talk on, but I would certainly be willing to do one. I'll try over the course of the week to think of something I could talk for a few minutes on.</div>
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1. Re: [A2PM] Interest in meetings? (Bryan Smith)<br>
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Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 11:42:50 -0400<br>
From: Bryan Smith <<a href="mailto:besmit@umich.edu">besmit@umich.edu</a>><br>
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I've received some private responses, so there is some interest.<br>
<br>
Based on how we've organized meetings in the past, someone needs to<br>
volunteer to present, or we need to start a public discussion (on the list)<br>
about an alternative format for the meetings. (In the past, meetings =<br>
presentations.)<br>
<br>
Do we want to meetings to be less formal? (I.e., show up without an<br>
agenda?)<br>
<br>
Please send out your ideas to the list.<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Bryan<br>
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On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Bryan Smith <<a href="mailto:besmit@umich.edu">besmit@umich.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I've received an email asking about the group, and was wondering whether<br>
> there is any interest in starting meetings up again. Particularly, is anyone<br>
> interested in presenting anything?<br>
><br>
> Bryan<br>
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Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 11:58:54 -0400<br>
From: Michael Mol <<a href="mailto:mikemol@gmail.com">mikemol@gmail.com</a>><br>
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The reason you're getting private replies are because the mailing list<br>
is configured to set reply-to to the original sender, not back to the<br>
list.<br>
<br>
I'm way out here by Grand Rapids, so I'm not likely to make it to A2PM<br>
meetings, but I can offer some insight to meeting format transitions.<br>
<br>
GRLUG once used a meeting == presentation format. It led to us having<br>
meetings rarely; while we wanted to meet up, we didn't have any solid<br>
presentation ideas. Some meeting plans would fizzle from a lack of<br>
volunteers to speak.<br>
<br>
Getting close to two years ago, we switched over to a weekly ad-hoc<br>
arrangement. Someone (who I'll call the anchor) would go to some place<br>
with wifi and {food and/or drink} and would be there for a solid<br>
window of time. If anyone else wanted to show up, they'd know there'd<br>
at least be the anchor there. Weekly attendance ranged from just me to<br>
ten or twenty people. No set topic, just chatting about what we wanted<br>
to and what we had in common.<br>
<br>
No one location and time works for everyone, but for those who can<br>
show up when/where someone decided to anchor, it's pretty fun. Earlier<br>
this year, I stopped anchoring (I'd moved it to what turned out to be<br>
a very bad spot, and attendance plummeted), someone else took it up,<br>
moved it from Saturdays to Wednesday evenings, and it's been going<br>
strong again. We've been seeing regular attendance from 10 to 20<br>
people.<br>
<br>
You'd have to figure out what works best for you guys, but this has<br>
been working out pretty nicely for us. It becomes a social atmosphere<br>
of technically-inclined people who listen to who they want to listen<br>
to, talk about what they want to talk about, and have a coffee or beer<br>
together. (Put that way, it sounds kinda like barcamp, but it's much<br>
smaller, and there are no schedules.)<br>
<br>
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Bryan Smith <<a href="mailto:besmit@umich.edu">besmit@umich.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
> I've received some private responses, so there is some interest.<br>
> Based on how we've organized meetings in the past, someone needs to<br>
> volunteer to present, or we need to start a public discussion (on the list)<br>
> about an alternative format for the meetings. (In the past, ?meetings =<br>
> presentations.)<br>
> Do we want to meetings to be less formal? (I.e., show up without an<br>
> agenda?)<br>
> Please send out your ideas to the list.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Bryan<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Bryan Smith <<a href="mailto:besmit@umich.edu">besmit@umich.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I've received an email asking about the group, and was wondering whether<br>
>> there is any interest in starting meetings up again. Particularly, is anyone<br>
>> interested in presenting anything?<br>
>> Bryan<br>
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Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 12:29:24 -0400<br>
From: Bryan Smith <<a href="mailto:besmit@umich.edu">besmit@umich.edu</a>><br>
To: Michael Mol <<a href="mailto:mikemol@gmail.com">mikemol@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [AnnArbor.pm] [A2PM] Interest in meetings?<br>
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> The reason you're getting private replies are because the mailing list<br>
> is configured to set reply-to to the original sender, not back to the<br>
> list.<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks for pointing this out.<br>
<br>
Getting close to two years ago, we switched over to a weekly ad-hoc<br>
> arrangement. Someone (who I'll call the anchor) would go to some place<br>
> with wifi and {food and/or drink} and would be there for a solid<br>
> window of time. If anyone else wanted to show up, they'd know there'd<br>
> at least be the anchor there.<br>
<br>
<br>
This is similar to an idea one person sent me, with the addition of an<br>
anchor. I would rather see the group go a lower-maintenance route like this,<br>
and we'd still have the flexibility to have more formal meetings if someone<br>
had a topic.<br>
<br>
<br>
Bryan<br>
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On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Michael Mol <<a href="mailto:mikemol@gmail.com">mikemol@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> The reason you're getting private replies are because the mailing list<br>
> is configured to set reply-to to the original sender, not back to the<br>
> list.<br>
><br>
> I'm way out here by Grand Rapids, so I'm not likely to make it to A2PM<br>
> meetings, but I can offer some insight to meeting format transitions.<br>
><br>
> GRLUG once used a meeting == presentation format. It led to us having<br>
> meetings rarely; while we wanted to meet up, we didn't have any solid<br>
> presentation ideas. Some meeting plans would fizzle from a lack of<br>
> volunteers to speak.<br>
><br>
> Getting close to two years ago, we switched over to a weekly ad-hoc<br>
> arrangement. Someone (who I'll call the anchor) would go to some place<br>
> with wifi and {food and/or drink} and would be there for a solid<br>
> window of time. If anyone else wanted to show up, they'd know there'd<br>
> at least be the anchor there. Weekly attendance ranged from just me to<br>
> ten or twenty people. No set topic, just chatting about what we wanted<br>
> to and what we had in common.<br>
><br>
> No one location and time works for everyone, but for those who can<br>
> show up when/where someone decided to anchor, it's pretty fun. Earlier<br>
> this year, I stopped anchoring (I'd moved it to what turned out to be<br>
> a very bad spot, and attendance plummeted), someone else took it up,<br>
> moved it from Saturdays to Wednesday evenings, and it's been going<br>
> strong again. We've been seeing regular attendance from 10 to 20<br>
> people.<br>
><br>
> You'd have to figure out what works best for you guys, but this has<br>
> been working out pretty nicely for us. It becomes a social atmosphere<br>
> of technically-inclined people who listen to who they want to listen<br>
> to, talk about what they want to talk about, and have a coffee or beer<br>
> together. (Put that way, it sounds kinda like barcamp, but it's much<br>
> smaller, and there are no schedules.)<br>
><br>
> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Bryan Smith <<a href="mailto:besmit@umich.edu">besmit@umich.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
> > I've received some private responses, so there is some interest.<br>
> > Based on how we've organized meetings in the past, someone needs to<br>
> > volunteer to present, or we need to start a public discussion (on the<br>
> list)<br>
> > about an alternative format for the meetings. (In the past, meetings =<br>
> > presentations.)<br>
> > Do we want to meetings to be less formal? (I.e., show up without an<br>
> > agenda?)<br>
> > Please send out your ideas to the list.<br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks,<br>
> > Bryan<br>
> ><br>
> > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Bryan Smith <<a href="mailto:besmit@umich.edu">besmit@umich.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >> I've received an email asking about the group, and was wondering whether<br>
> >> there is any interest in starting meetings up again. Particularly, is<br>
> anyone<br>
> >> interested in presenting anything?<br>
> >> Bryan<br>
> ><br>
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I agree that we'd do well to have social meetings in addition to<br>
technical meetings. There are many different types of Perl Mongers<br>
groups: At one extreme, the Seattle Perl Mongers (now apparently<br>
called the Seattle Perl Users Group) describes itself as an<br>
"Educational Cooperative". At the other extreme, the New York Perl<br>
Mongers discourages much Perl discussion on its mailing list and<br>
mostly just meets in a bar near NYU. I've learned a hell of a lot of<br>
Perl over beers at the Peculier Pub. :-)<br>
<br>
Anyway, I'd certainly attend a social meeting, and so would a couple<br>
of my co-workers at Slashdot. That said, I'd also attend a technical<br>
meeting. (I'd also like to get back in the habit of presenting.)<br>
<br>
Michael's "anchor" idea seems to be a good one, especially in<br>
combination with some sort of semi-regular technical meeting. Or<br>
maybe it'd be sufficient if there were a regular venue at which we<br>
could host technical meetings, so that the "anchor" wouldn't have to<br>
provide one of his own?<br>
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