This is an excellent idea. I'd most likely move Vancouver.pm to this - hopefully it would foster participation from the Vancouver Perl community. -chris On 7/11/07, Bill Odom wrote: > Hi all. > > Here's part of the proposal I put together a few weeks back, when I > (re)proposed Andy's original wikis-for-PMs idea to the Socialtext > Powers-That-Be. I wanted to share it with everyone, so you could get > an idea of what I was asking ST to provide, and to get feedback or > questions before we move forward and make a broader announcement. > Please let me know what you think. > > Thanks! > > Bill > > P.S. - Sorry for the wikitext; it's copied from a posting on an > internal ST workspace. > > ----- > > ^ Proposal > > Provide free wiki hosting for PerlMongers groups. > > ^ Specifics > > Provide a workspace for every PerlMongers group, upon request. > > Only create workspaces upon request, since: > > * Some PMs already have their own wikis, and won't need or want a new one. > * Some PMs won't want to use a hosted wiki (for whatever reason). > * We don't want want to create a large number of workspaces that may > never get used. > * We don't want to offend community members by creating something in > their name without permission. > * We need to know the admin of the workspace. > > Group leaders are allowed to request a PM workspace. > > * List of groups, with contact info, available at > http://www.pm.org/groups/index.html > * May need to work with/through José Castro (TPF Community Relations) > and Jay Hannah (PM Admin) > > What information do we need from requesters to create a workspace? > > * Group name > * Admin email address(es) > > Consider providing a general PerlMongers workspace in addition to the > PM-specific workspaces. > > > Although PM-specific workspaces provide a sense of control and ownership that one large workspace doesn't, there's still value in having a general workspace that any PM member can use. Shared content could go there, and be linked/transcluded as necessary within PM-group workspaces. Any individual PM member could also be a member of this general workspace. > > Establish a pattern before starting; we don't want to make this up as > we go. Specifically, we should know the: > > * Naming convention > * Content template > * Default features > * Limitations, if any > > ^^ Trust > > Allay fears up front. Convey to PM leaders and members that: > > * You can always leave, and take your data with you. > * Your content belongs to you. > * Source is always freely available. > * We won't spam you or try to sell you anything. > > Specifically, we need to provide an easy way for people to export > their data, so there's never any doubt that this isn't about holding > people hostage. > > ^^ Hosting > > The existing ST community server has more than enough capacity to > handle this, so there's no need for new infrastructure. > > ^^ Access and Visibility > > Content should be publicly visible, but editable only by workspace members. > > ^^ Workspace names and URLs > > This is probably the best form: > > * http://wiki.pm.org/stlouis-pm/ > > Another possibility: > > * http://wiki.pm.org/stlouis-perlmongers/ > > Both of these require only a single DNS entry (for wiki.pm.org) and > provide a natural grouping for all the sites. The suffixes (-pm / > -perlmongers) decrease the likelihood of name collisions with other > workspaces already hosted on the box. > > Of the two, I slightly prefer the first one. It's shorter, and matches > the way many PM members refer to their groups. > > ^^ Content Template > > Consider providing a template appropriate for user-group-style content: > > * Member list (may just be workspace members, to encourage people to > join the wiki) > * Meeting location and map (a good way to demo Google maps plugin) > * Meeting schedule (calendar plugin) > * Archived meeting notes > * Member presentations (attachments) > * Member blogs > * Member photos > * Code samples (as both attachments and .pre blocks) > * Content of interest to Perl developers (REST API docs, alternative > editing tools, etc.) > > ^^ Support > > Support for these workspaces will be the same as for other community > workspaces. PM members and workspace admins will have access to > http://www.socialtext.net/open/ and /exchange, the mailing lists, and > to #socialtext on IRC. Also, many ST employees are well-known within > the Perl community; we're pretty easy to find if someone needs help. > > ----- > -- > Request pm.org Technical Support via support@pm.org > > pm_groups mailing list > pm_groups@pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups > -- Request pm.org Technical Support via support@pm.org pm_groups mailing list pm_groups@pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups