Our illustrious founder has wikipedia issues. As you may know, his preferred (and published) rendering of his name is 'brian d foy'. There's even a style guide. If you feel like it, you might forward those in your groups to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Brian_D._Foy and join the fight to render him correctly on wikipedia. thanks, dha, unofficial sgt-at-arms -- David H. Adler - - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ I'd redesign my program to something less absurd. - Abigail, in comp.lang.perl.misc -- Request pm.org Technical Support via support@pm.org pm_groups mailing list pm_groups@pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups