From packyanderson at gmail.com Sun Jul 4 08:56:28 2010 From: packyanderson at gmail.com (Packy Anderson) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 11:56:28 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] Fwd: Re: tech events in and around New York In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Packy Anderson" Date: Jul 4, 2010 11:53 AM Subject: Re: tech events in and around New York To: "Gabor Szabo" Well, there's a not very active Albany.pm which is a LITTLE closer. If there's a perl monger group in either Syracuse or Binghamton, they would be the closest large-ish cities. Or, of course, one or two of us from NY.pm could make the trek. It just would be a schlep. > > On Jul 4, 2010 11:22 AM, "Gabor Szabo" wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Packy Anderson wrote: > Ithaca, NY, is a f... > > Yeah, but it is only a few inches away on the map :-) > > Anyway, I am sorry if it was inapprop... > > > > > > > > On Jul 4, 2010 4:05 AM, "Gabor Szabo" wrote: > > > > Hi NY.pm, >... > as you mig... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From will at coleda.com Sun Jul 4 10:52:32 2010 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 13:52:32 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] Fwd: Re: tech events in and around New York In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Looks like the interesting bit of this was cut off. Hi, Gabor. =-) What's up? 2010/7/4 Packy Anderson : > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Packy Anderson" > Date: Jul 4, 2010 11:53 AM > Subject: Re: tech events in and around New York > To: "Gabor Szabo" > > Well, there's a not very active Albany.pm which is a LITTLE closer. If > there's a perl monger group in either Syracuse or Binghamton, they would be > the closest large-ish cities. > > Or, of course, one or two of us from NY.pm could make the trek.? It just > would be a schlep. > >> >> On Jul 4, 2010 11:22 AM, "Gabor Szabo" wrote: >> > >> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Packy Anderson >> wrote: > >> Ithaca, NY, is a f... > >> >> Yeah, but it is only a few inches away on the map :-) >> >> Anyway, I am sorry if it was inapprop... > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > On Jul 4, 2010 4:05 AM, "Gabor Szabo" wrote: >> > >> > Hi NY.pm, >>... > >> as you mig... > > _______________________________________________ > Albany-pm mailing list > Albany-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/albany-pm > -- Will "Coke" Coleda From szabgab at gmail.com Sun Jul 4 12:58:47 2010 From: szabgab at gmail.com (Gabor Szabo) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 22:58:47 +0300 Subject: [albany-pm] Fwd: Re: tech events in and around New York In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: the original message was this: Hi NY.pm, as you might know I maintain a list of tech events on the wiki of The Perl Foundation that might be interesting for Perl hackers to attend. So far I have only one event in New York: 2010.08.1-7 DebConf http://debconf.org/ and one in Ithaca, NY which, at least from where I am, looks like near-by. 2011.03.24 EdTechDay http://www.ithaca.edu/edtechday/ Is anyone of the Perl Hackers planning to attend those? Maybe giving a Perl related talk? Setting up a Perl booth? Do you maybe know about other events that are not in the list yet? I'd be happy to add them to the list and then see if there is going to be any Perl related presence on those events. ============== And then they told me to check out Ithaca and Packy also pointed to Albany that is a bit closer. In short I am trying to spam^h^h inform all the PM lists about various events around them and try to nudge them into a bit more activity. I even left off the link to the wiki where I have the list of events: http://www.socialtext.net/perl5/index.cgi?events regards Gabor On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Will Coleda wrote: > Looks like the interesting bit of this was cut off. > > Hi, Gabor. =-) > > What's up? > > 2010/7/4 Packy Anderson : >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: "Packy Anderson" >> Date: Jul 4, 2010 11:53 AM >> Subject: Re: tech events in and around New York >> To: "Gabor Szabo" >> >> Well, there's a not very active Albany.pm which is a LITTLE closer. If >> there's a perl monger group in either Syracuse or Binghamton, they would be >> the closest large-ish cities. >> >> Or, of course, one or two of us from NY.pm could make the trek.? It just >> would be a schlep. >> >>> >>> On Jul 4, 2010 11:22 AM, "Gabor Szabo" wrote: >>> >> >>> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Packy Anderson >>> wrote: >> >>> Ithaca, NY, is a f... >> >>> >>> Yeah, but it is only a few inches away on the map :-) >>> >>> Anyway, I am sorry if it was inapprop... >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > >>> > On Jul 4, 2010 4:05 AM, "Gabor Szabo" wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi NY.pm, >>>... >> >>> as you mig... From robert at robertblackwell.com Sun Jul 4 13:11:15 2010 From: robert at robertblackwell.com (Robert Blackwell) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 16:11:15 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] (no subject) Message-ID: <404DC70E-400D-48A6-A303-5387394ACD80@robertblackwell.com> From will at coleda.com Sun Jul 4 13:52:33 2010 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 16:52:33 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] Fwd: Re: tech events in and around New York In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Ah, thanks for the heads up -- was nice to see you at YAPC::NA, btw! Ithaca's about 3 hours west of here by car. Were any locals planning on attending DebConf? On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Gabor Szabo wrote: > the original message was this: > > Hi NY.pm, > > as you might know I maintain a list of tech events on the wiki of > The Perl Foundation that might be interesting for Perl hackers to > attend. > > So far I have only one event in New York: > > 2010.08.1-7 ?DebConf ?http://debconf.org/ > > and one in Ithaca, NY which, at least from where I am, looks like near-by. > 2011.03.24 EdTechDay http://www.ithaca.edu/edtechday/ > > Is anyone of the Perl Hackers planning to attend those? > Maybe giving a Perl related talk? > Setting up a Perl booth? > > > Do you maybe know about other events that are not in the list yet? > I'd be happy to add them to the list and then see if there is going to be > any Perl related presence on those events. > > ============== > > And then they told me to check out Ithaca and Packy also pointed to > Albany that is a bit closer. > > > In short I am trying to spam^h^h inform all the PM lists about various events > around them and try to nudge them into a bit more activity. > > I even left off the link to the wiki where I have the list of events: > http://www.socialtext.net/perl5/index.cgi?events > > regards > ? Gabor > > On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Will Coleda wrote: >> Looks like the interesting bit of this was cut off. >> >> Hi, Gabor. =-) >> >> What's up? >> >> 2010/7/4 Packy Anderson : >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: "Packy Anderson" >>> Date: Jul 4, 2010 11:53 AM >>> Subject: Re: tech events in and around New York >>> To: "Gabor Szabo" >>> >>> Well, there's a not very active Albany.pm which is a LITTLE closer. If >>> there's a perl monger group in either Syracuse or Binghamton, they would be >>> the closest large-ish cities. >>> >>> Or, of course, one or two of us from NY.pm could make the trek.? It just >>> would be a schlep. >>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 4, 2010 11:22 AM, "Gabor Szabo" wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Packy Anderson >>>> wrote: >>> >>>> Ithaca, NY, is a f... >>> >>>> >>>> Yeah, but it is only a few inches away on the map :-) >>>> >>>> Anyway, I am sorry if it was inapprop... >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > On Jul 4, 2010 4:05 AM, "Gabor Szabo" wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Hi NY.pm, >>>>... >>> >>>> as you mig... > -- Will "Coke" Coleda From szabgab at gmail.com Mon Jul 5 00:11:00 2010 From: szabgab at gmail.com (Gabor Szabo) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 10:11:00 +0300 Subject: [albany-pm] Fwd: Re: tech events in and around New York In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Will Coleda wrote: > Ah, thanks for the heads up -- was nice to see you at YAPC::NA, btw! It was nice to see you too! I hope we will see some more organized outgoing of Perl::Staff to various non-perl events and get them hooked up. regards Gabor From will at coleda.com Thu Jul 15 12:08:42 2010 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:08:42 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] Next Meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Will Coleda wrote: > I have returned from YAPC! There will be a meeting in July! I am continuing with my delusional plan to host a meeting. Anyone similarly crazy is welcome to join me. I am scheduled to release the next version of Parrot next Tuesday, and then the Rakudo Perl 6 compiler on Thursday; that pretty much rules out next week for me. So, I'm looking at the last week in July. I'm leaning towards more social, just to make connections with other local mongers (even if we're all only closet mongers) > Anyone who has access to facilities who can score us a room, please > let me know; Something on a college campus would no doubt be spiffy. I > will also pursue some leads off list. I realize it's summer break, and so any students are probably not available. If we do get any, we can always meet at a union if there's no transport. We're not going to need a projector, I'm sure. =-) Barring that, leaning towards some place with beer or coffee. We've had meetings at Professor Java's on wolf in the past, so I know that's convenient to someone. =-) > I'd like to talk about Modern Perl, including the changes in the > release cycle, new features, what we can expect in terms of new > versions going forward, Perl 6 (and Perl 5!), and modules and > strategies that will help you start using Modern Perl, for fun and > profit. And I'll do this even if I don't have a projector. ^_^ > I ? Perl, and so can you. > -- Will "Coke" Coleda From will at coleda.com Thu Jul 15 12:10:50 2010 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:10:50 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] IRC channel Message-ID: I'm realized I'm frequently on IRC for other perl related things, so feel free to join me at irc://irc.perl.org/#albany-pm to chat about perl (5 or 6 or whatever), meetings, whatever. See you there! -- Will "Coke" Coleda From will at coleda.com Tue Jul 20 21:59:48 2010 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 00:59:48 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] Next Meeting In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Will Coleda wrote: > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Will Coleda wrote: >> I have returned from YAPC! There will be a meeting in July! > > I am continuing with my delusional plan to host a meeting. Anyone > similarly crazy is welcome to join me. > > I am scheduled to release the next version of Parrot next Tuesday, and > then the Rakudo Perl 6 compiler on Thursday; that pretty much rules > out next week for me. Parrot 2.6.0 has been released; one down. > So, I'm looking at the last week in July. I'm leaning towards more > social, just to make connections with other local mongers (even if > we're all only closet mongers) >> Anyone who has access to facilities who can score us a room, please >> let me know; Something on a college campus would no doubt be spiffy. I >> will also pursue some leads off list. > > I realize it's summer break, and so any students are probably not > available. If we do get any, we can always meet at a union if there's > no transport. We're not going to need a projector, I'm sure. =-) > > Barring that, leaning towards some place with beer or coffee. We've > had meetings at Professor Java's on wolf in the past, so I know that's > convenient to someone. =-) Anyone have any preferences as to the day or the beverage? Is anyone out there? ;) >> I'd like to talk about Modern Perl, including the changes in the >> release cycle, new features, what we can expect in terms of new >> versions going forward, Perl 6 (and Perl 5!), and modules and >> strategies that will help you start using Modern Perl, for fun and >> profit. > > And I'll do this even if I don't have a projector. ^_^ > >> I ? Perl, and so can you. >> -- Will "Coke" Coleda From will at coleda.com Thu Jul 22 21:21:46 2010 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:21:46 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] Announce: Rakudo Perl 6 compiler development release #31 ("Atlanta") Message-ID: FYI: http://blogs.perl.org/users/coke/2010/07/announce-rakudo-perl-6-development-release-31-atlanta.html -- Will "Coke" Coleda From will at coleda.com Thu Jul 22 21:36:40 2010 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:36:40 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] July Meeting Message-ID: Releases are done, please try out the shiny new Rakudo Perl 6. I have one bite on the perl mongers meeting for next week, and their preference is beer over coffee. Let's shoot for Thursday, at Beff's on Everett Road[1], at 6pm. There is food and beer, and while the service can be a little slow, that should work out for folks trying to have a conversation. I imagine we won't go past 8. In future, I will just pick a date in advance, in case anyone was waiting for the date to make a decision. Having just cut a release of Perl 6, I'll plan on chatting about that, at a minimum. Please RSVP to the list if you plan to attend, or to me off list if you must. There will be schwag! I come bearing LINODE t-shirts and coupons, and a round tuit. [1] http://www.beffs.com/, 95 Everett Rd., Albany NY, 12205 -- Will "Coke" Coleda From will at coleda.com Sun Jul 25 18:52:44 2010 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 21:52:44 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] A Tale of Two Perls Message-ID: This is a good article from Piers Cawley about the difference between the perl that the community writes vs. the perl that everyone else sees. http://www.bofh.org.uk/2010/07/25/a-tale-of-two-languages -- Will "Coke" Coleda From will at coleda.com Tue Jul 27 08:42:43 2010 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:42:43 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] Perl 6 Screencasts Message-ID: Rakudo Perl 6 Star is coming out this Thursday. If you'd like to get a taste of what you can do with Perl 6, and how it differs from Perl 5, check out Gabor's screencasts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp8E6OiFlEM&feature=related Enjoy! -- Will "Coke" Coleda From will at coleda.com Thu Jul 29 05:44:05 2010 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:44:05 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] Fwd: Rakudo Star - a useful, usable, "early adopter" distribution of Perl 6 In-Reply-To: <20100729122335.GA24007@pmichaud.com> References: <20100729122335.GA24007@pmichaud.com> Message-ID: Here's a Perl 6 you can download and test drive today. Enjoy. =-) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Patrick R. Michaud Date: Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 8:23 AM Subject: Rakudo Star - a useful, usable, "early adopter" distribution of Perl 6 To: perl6-language at perl.org, perl6-compiler at perl.org, perl6-users at perl.org, parrot-dev at lists.parrot.org On behalf of the Rakudo and Perl 6 development teams, I'm happy to announce the July 2010 release of "Rakudo Star", a useful and usable distribution of Perl 6. ?The tarball for the July 2010 release is available from . Rakudo Star is aimed at "early adopters" of Perl 6. ?We know that it still has some bugs, it is far slower than it ought to be, and there are some advanced pieces of the Perl 6 language specification that aren't implemented yet. ?But Rakudo Perl 6 in its current form is also proving to be viable (and fun) for developing applications and exploring a great new language. ?These "Star" releases are intended to make Perl 6 more widely available to programmers, grow the Perl 6 codebase, and gain additional end-user feedback about the Perl 6 language and Rakudo's implementation of it. In the Perl 6 world, we make a distinction between the language ("Perl 6") and specific implementations of the language such as "Rakudo Perl". ?"Rakudo Star" is a distribution that includes release #31 of the Rakudo Perl 6 compiler [1], version 2.6.0 of the Parrot Virtual Machine [2], and various modules, documentation, and other resources collected from the Perl 6 community. ?We plan to make Rakudo Star releases on a monthly schedule, with occasional special releases in response to important bugfixes or changes. Some of the many cool Perl 6 features that are available in this release of Rakudo Star: ?* Perl 6 grammars and regexes ?* formal parameter lists and signatures ?* metaoperators ?* gradual typing ?* a powerful object model, including roles and classes ?* lazy list evaluation ?* multiple dispatch ?* smart matching ?* junctions and autothreading ?* operator overloading (limited forms for now) ?* introspection ?* currying ?* a rich library of builtin operators, functions, and types ?* an interactive read-evaluation-print loop ?* Unicode at the codepoint level ?* resumable exceptions There are some key features of Perl 6 that Rakudo Star does not yet handle appropriately, although they will appear in upcoming releases. ?Thus, we do not consider Rakudo Star to be a "Perl 6.0.0" or "1.0" release. ?Some of the not-quite-there features include: ?* nested package definitions ?* binary objects, native types, pack and unpack ?* typed arrays ?* macros ?* state variables ?* threads and concurrency ?* Unicode strings at levels other than codepoints ?* pre and post constraints, and some other phasers ?* interactive readline that understands Unicode ?* backslash escapes in regex <[...]> character classes ?* non-blocking I/O ?* most of Synopsis 9 ?* perl6doc or pod manipulation tools In many places we've tried to make Rakudo smart enough to inform the programmer that a given feature isn't implemented, but there are many that we've missed. ?Bug reports about missing and broken features are welcomed. See http://perl6.org/ for links to much more information about Perl 6, including documentation, example code, tutorials, reference materials, specification documents, and other supporting resources. Rakudo Star also bundles a number of modules; a partial list of the modules provided by this release include: ?* Blizkost ? ? ?- enables some Perl 5 modules to be used from within Rakudo Perl 6 ?* MiniDBI ? ? ?- a simple database interface for Rakudo Perl 6 ?* Zavolaj ? ? ?- call C library functions from Rakudo Perl 6 ?* SVG and SVG::Plot ? ? ?- create scalable vector graphics ?* HTTP::Daemon ? ? ?- a simple HTTP server ?* XML::Writer ? ? ?- generate XML ?* YAML ? ? ?- dump Perl 6 objects as YAML ?* Term::ANSIColor ? ? ?- color screen output using ANSI escape sequences ?* Test::Mock ? ? ?- create mock objects and check what methods were called ?* Math::Model ? ? ?- describe and run mathematical models ?* Config::INI ? ? ?- parse and write configuration files ?* File::Find ? ? ?- find files in a given directory ?* LWP::Simple ? ? ?- fetch resources from the web These are not considered "core Perl 6 modules", and as module development for Perl 6 continues to mature, future releases of Rakudo Star will likely come bundled with a different set of modules. Deprecation policies for bundled modules will be created over time, and other Perl 6 distributions may choose different sets of modules or policies. ?More information about Perl 6 modules can be found at http://modules.perl6.org/. Rakudo Star also contains a draft of a Perl 6 book -- see in the release tarball. The development team thanks all of the contributors and sponsors for making Rakudo Star possible. ?If you would like to contribute, see , ask on the perl6-compiler at perl.org mailing list, or join us on IRC #perl6 on freenode. Rakudo Star releases are created on a monthly cycle or as needed in response to important bug fixes or improvements. ?The next planned release of Rakudo Star will be on August 24, 2010. [1] http://github.com/rakudo/rakudo [2] http://parrot.org/ _______________________________________________ http://lists.parrot.org/mailman/listinfo/parrot-dev -- Will "Coke" Coleda From will at coleda.com Thu Jul 29 08:06:04 2010 From: will at coleda.com (Will Coleda) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:06:04 -0400 Subject: [albany-pm] July Meeting Redux Message-ID: Ok, I have one confirmed for tonight's social meeting at Beffs, six until eight at the latest. Look for us on the right as you come in the entrance. I'm the bald guy with the pink shirt. Anyone else want to drop buy for a beer (or other beverage) and chat? I have one request for a Tuesday next time - So lets plan for another social, Tuesday, August 24th, 6pm-8pm. Location TBD. If this date doesn't work for you and you want to show, let me know, we'll get everybody in a room together eventually. =-) My googlevoice # is 518.ZOO.COKE if you need it. -- Will "Coke" Coleda