From phil at five-lawrences.com Fri Apr 2 11:18:20 2004 From: phil at five-lawrences.com (Phil R Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] next meeting In-Reply-To: <406B2090.1060209@modperlcookbook.org> References: <406B1FE2.1070804@five-lawrences.com> <406B2090.1060209@modperlcookbook.org> Message-ID: <406DA05C.4070809@five-lawrences.com> Geoffrey Young wrote: >>It's a bit late to ask Geoff to schedule his testing talk (Apache2) for >>this month > > > indeed :) but we can work on april if you like. tuesdays and thursdays are > unfortunately out for me, but for the remaining days I'm fairly open. Monday, May 10th would be our normal meeting night. Sound good for you? I'm going to start using Apache2 soon wih RT3, so maybe I'll prepared to ask a few questions. :-) prl From phil at five-lawrences.com Fri Apr 2 12:41:16 2004 From: phil at five-lawrences.com (Phil R Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] wiki updated Message-ID: <406DB3CC.2060800@five-lawrences.com> http://abe.pm.org/wiki/ Updates abound. Geoff is scheduled. rjbs, you'll note a special page where you can link you slides (hint! hint!). I still need to add info about our new meeting room at LU. jce, are we confirmed for the room for this month? If we end up liking the room let's schedule out a few months if we can. prl From rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org Fri Apr 2 13:00:17 2004 From: rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] wiki updated In-Reply-To: <406DB3CC.2060800@five-lawrences.com> References: <406DB3CC.2060800@five-lawrences.com> Message-ID: <20040402140017.A18739@manxome.org> * Phil R Lawrence [2004-04-02T13:41:16] > Updates abound. Geoff is scheduled. rjbs, you'll note a special page > where you can link you slides (hint! hint!). Bitchin'. Link to http://rjbs.manxome.org/talks/testing/ added! -- rjbs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Jim From rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org Mon Apr 5 10:30:06 2004 From: rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] wiki updated In-Reply-To: <407176B9.7020909@Lehigh.EDU> References: <406DB3CC.2060800@five-lawrences.com> <407176B9.7020909@Lehigh.EDU> Message-ID: <20040405113006.C18739@manxome.org> * Jim Eshleman [2004-04-05T11:09:45] > The good news is that construction is finished. > [ ... ] > The bad news is we won't get to use it. C'est la vie! The room we had last time seemed totally sufficient. Quite nice, actually. -- rjbs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/abe-pm/attachments/20040405/39f8a1c7/attachment.bin From phil at five-lawrences.com Mon Apr 5 14:28:35 2004 From: phil at five-lawrences.com (Phil R Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] wiki updated In-Reply-To: <407176B9.7020909@Lehigh.EDU> References: <406DB3CC.2060800@five-lawrences.com> <407176B9.7020909@Lehigh.EDU> Message-ID: <4071B363.2030209@five-lawrences.com> Jim Eshleman wrote: > The bad news is we won't get to use it. The room is not > available after 1700 during the summer. > I guess we will be meeting in EWFM 292 again. We can do better. I sized up MG105 and it looks pretty sweet. It's brand new (the renovated bottom floor of Maginnes, directly across from parking garage). Seats max 26 (nice & small), with new projector etc. Pretty sure it has wireless. Also MG111 is available, but that seats 49, and would start to feel pretty cavernous. Phil From phil at five-lawrences.com Thu Apr 8 11:15:38 2004 From: phil at five-lawrences.com (Phil R Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] Re: [Lvlug] hand held touch screen In-Reply-To: <20040408033433.GA26348@uranus.faber.nom> References: <4074A878.6050803@frontiernet.net> <20040408015141.GD23740@uranus.faber.nom> <4074B41A.6020600@frontiernet.net> <20040408032202.GA26134@uranus.faber.nom> <4074C903.3020909@frontiernet.net> <20040408033433.GA26348@uranus.faber.nom> Message-ID: <40757AAA.905@five-lawrences.com> Faber Fedor wrote (ON lvlug mailing list): > ...I got perl to run on my Zaurus. Which model of Zaurus do you have? Be sure to bring it for show and tell at the next ABE.pm meeting! Phil From jce0 at Lehigh.EDU Thu Apr 8 11:21:20 2004 From: jce0 at Lehigh.EDU (Jim Eshleman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] wiki updated In-Reply-To: <4071B363.2030209@five-lawrences.com> References: <406DB3CC.2060800@five-lawrences.com> <407176B9.7020909@Lehigh.EDU> <4071B363.2030209@five-lawrences.com> Message-ID: <40757C00.3050008@Lehigh.EDU> Phil R Lawrence wrote: > Jim Eshleman wrote: > >> The bad news is we won't get to use it. The room is not > > > available after 1700 during the summer. > >> I guess we will be meeting in EWFM 292 again. > > > We can do better. I sized up MG105 and it looks pretty sweet. It's > brand new (the renovated bottom floor of Maginnes, directly across from > parking garage). Seats max 26 (nice & small), with new projector etc. > Pretty sure it has wireless. > > Also MG111 is available, but that seats 49, and would start to feel > pretty cavernous. > > Phil Sounds great, go for it. Reservations for those rooms are made through the Registrar I think. Let me know if/when I can cancel the reservation for EWFM 292. Thanks. Jim From phil at five-lawrences.com Thu Apr 8 11:28:35 2004 From: phil at five-lawrences.com (Phil R Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] wiki updated In-Reply-To: <40757C00.3050008@Lehigh.EDU> References: <406DB3CC.2060800@five-lawrences.com> <407176B9.7020909@Lehigh.EDU> <4071B363.2030209@five-lawrences.com> <40757C00.3050008@Lehigh.EDU> Message-ID: <40757DB3.6040700@five-lawrences.com> Jim Eshleman wrote: > Sounds great, go for it. Reservations for those rooms are made > through the Registrar I think. Let me know if/when I can cancel the > reservation for EWFM 292. Thanks. OK, done. We have MG 111 through the Summer. Phil From faber at linuxnj.com Thu Apr 8 12:03:36 2004 From: faber at linuxnj.com (Faber Fedor) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] Re: [Lvlug] hand held touch screen In-Reply-To: <40757AAA.905@five-lawrences.com> References: <4074A878.6050803@frontiernet.net> <20040408015141.GD23740@uranus.faber.nom> <4074B41A.6020600@frontiernet.net> <20040408032202.GA26134@uranus.faber.nom> <4074C903.3020909@frontiernet.net> <20040408033433.GA26348@uranus.faber.nom> <40757AAA.905@five-lawrences.com> Message-ID: <20040408170336.GB4306@uranus.faber.nom> On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 12:15:38PM -0400, Phil R Lawrence wrote: > Faber Fedor wrote (ON lvlug mailing list): > >...I got perl to run on my Zaurus. > > Which model of Zaurus do you have? Be sure to bring it for show and > tell at the next ABE.pm meeting! The, uh, 5500 I think it is. With a wireless NIC so I can do war-walking. :-) -- Regards, Faber Linux New Jersey: Open Source Solutions for New Jersey http://www.linuxnj.com From phil at five-lawrences.com Mon Apr 12 16:01:16 2004 From: phil at five-lawrences.com (Phil R Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] Don't forget: Maginnes Hall 111 Message-ID: <407B039C.5010509@five-lawrences.com> We're in Maginnes Hall tonight (and from now on if you like it.) Almost exactly where we met last time: From the updated Wiki: ---- Meetings are in room 111 of Maginnes Hall. Maginnes Hall is located on the main campus of Lehigh University in south Bethlehem. By foot, head south (uphill) on New Street, past Morton Street, through campus square, and stop in front of the massive breezeway. Maginnes Hall is entered through the doors to the right of the breezeway (not under the breezeway), directly across from the parking garage. ---- see you at 1900, prl From sol0 at lehigh.edu Mon Apr 12 17:16:29 2004 From: sol0 at lehigh.edu (Steve Lidie) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] Don't forget: Maginnes Hall 111 In-Reply-To: <407B039C.5010509@five-lawrences.com> References: <407B039C.5010509@five-lawrences.com> Message-ID: <0C2D4FBD-8CCF-11D8-BA24-00039366E622@lehigh.edu> On Apr 12, 2004, at 5:01 PM, Phil R Lawrence wrote: > We're in Maginnes Hall tonight (and from now on if you like it.) > > Almost exactly where we met last time: > > From the updated Wiki: > > ---- > Meetings are in room 111 of Maginnes Hall. Maginnes Hall is located on > the main campus of Lehigh University in south Bethlehem. > > By foot, head south (uphill) on New Street, past Morton Street, > through campus square, and stop in front of the massive breezeway. > > Maginnes Hall is entered through the doors to the right of the > breezeway (not under the breezeway), directly across from the parking > garage. > ---- > > see you at 1900, > I had fully planned on being there tonight, alas, 'tis not to be this month. And I had thoughts of IPC::Open3 in my mind .... From phil at five-lawrences.com Tue Apr 13 13:42:56 2004 From: phil at five-lawrences.com (Phil R Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] recap Message-ID: <407C34B0.9030802@five-lawrences.com> Not too much happened last night... But the discussion was quite interesting for at least 50% of the attendees! :-) As for my Tilde::Bin presentation, I had only made it so far as: - interface design - modular design - 5 or 6 tests written So obviously the night fell to random discussion in short order! That being said, it was a pretty interesting discussion, that went something like this: - Template Toolkit - Apache::Application - validation of data - object oriented validation of data - Switch.pm - Wacky Daimian Source filters - what can we validate anyway - ref type - number - string - isa - blah, blah, etc. - semantic meaning - WWW Browser bookmark organization - breakdown of the "tree" method of organization - you've gotta make a web of related things - commenting on things - commenting on comments - comments on things no longer existing due to version control - searching through commented, web-organized, semantic data rjbs has a killer name for a pet project of his: Acropolis. Acropolis is a (proposed) system of books, articles, and comments that are revision controlled and all linked together. I'm sure rjbs could give a better synopsis. Today I saw that Neal Stephenson has a wiki he calls "metaweb." It just looks like a wiki to me... Maybe someone else can see what differentiates it from other wikis. prl From rhkramer at fast.net Tue Apr 13 23:40:11 2004 From: rhkramer at fast.net (Ruth A. Kramer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] recap References: <407C34B0.9030802@five-lawrences.com> Message-ID: <407CC0AB.5B2F@fast.net> Phil R Lawrence wrote: > Not too much happened last night... But the discussion was quite > interesting for at least 50% of the attendees! :-) Thanks for the synopsis! It's nice to know what was discussed and thus what I might be interested in digging into (or coming to the next meeting). ------ > - validation of data > - object oriented validation of data > - what can we validate anyway > - ref type > - number > - string > - isa > - blah, blah, etc. > - breakdown of the "tree" method of organization > - you've gotta make a web of related things > - commenting on things > - commenting on comments > - comments on things no longer existing due to version control > - searching through commented, web-organized, semantic data > > rjbs has a killer name for a pet project of his: Acropolis. Acropolis > is a (proposed) system of books, articles, and comments that are > revision controlled and all linked together. I'm sure rjbs could give a > better synopsis. Who is rjbs, and where can I find out more? I'd like to find a tool that is a sort of combination of AskSam (free form database, Windows only (but for several years now available as a "web server", but, IIRC, no "explicit" revision control), a wiki (TWiki is my current favorite, it can be used as a free form database, and does have revision control), and a large text file with "custom" delimiters (actually, TWiki ML, but much faster for data entry than calling up a web page over a dialup line). > Today I saw that Neal Stephenson has a wiki he calls "metaweb." It just > looks like a wiki to me... Maybe someone else can see what > differentiates it from other wikis. After I finish my taxes, I'll try to take a look. Randy Kramer From rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org Wed Apr 14 08:08:14 2004 From: rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] recap In-Reply-To: <407CC0AB.5B2F@fast.net> References: <407C34B0.9030802@five-lawrences.com> <407CC0AB.5B2F@fast.net> Message-ID: <20040414090814.A240@manxome.org> * [2004-04-14T00:40:11] > Phil R Lawrence wrote: > > Not too much happened last night... But the discussion was quite > > interesting for at least 50% of the attendees! :-) 100%, I think. :) > > rjbs has a killer name for a pet project of his: Acropolis. Acropolis > > is a (proposed) system of books, articles, and comments that are > > revision controlled and all linked together. I'm sure rjbs could give a > > better synopsis. > > Who is rjbs, and where can I find out more? I am rjbs. You can learn more, mostly about where to learn more, on the wiki. http://abe.pm.org/wiki/index.cgi?rjbs > I'd like to find a tool that is a sort of combination of AskSam (free > form database, Windows only (but for several years now available as a > "web server", but, IIRC, no "explicit" revision control), a wiki > (TWiki is my current favorite, it can be used as a free form database, > and does have revision control), and a large text file with "custom" > delimiters (actually, TWiki ML, but much faster for data entry than > calling up a web page over a dialup line). Explain how you'd use it? :) -- rjbs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/abe-pm/attachments/20040414/721bf32b/attachment.bin From rhkramer at fast.net Wed Apr 14 01:13:02 2004 From: rhkramer at fast.net (Ruth A. Kramer) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] recap References: <407C34B0.9030802@five-lawrences.com> <407CC0AB.5B2F@fast.net> <20040414090814.A240@manxome.org> Message-ID: <407CD3D1.71B6@fast.net> Ricardo SIGNES wrote: > > > rjbs has a killer name for a pet project of his: Acropolis. Acropolis > > > is a (proposed) system of books, articles, and comments that are > > > revision controlled and all linked together. I'm sure rjbs could give a > > > better synopsis. > > I'd like to find a tool that is a sort of combination of AskSam (free > > form database, Windows only (but for several years now available as a > > "web server", but, IIRC, no "explicit" revision control), a wiki > > (TWiki is my current favorite, it can be used as a free form database, > > and does have revision control), and a large text file with "custom" > > delimiters (actually, TWiki ML, but much faster for data entry than > > calling up a web page over a dialup line). > > Explain how you'd use it? :) 1. I already use it (WikiLearn; personal TWiki (currently dead, hope to revive after recovering data from crashed (?) disk); AskSam (used while working at BSC for all sorts of work related notes (along with ZyIndex); large text file (used now because updating WikiLearn over a dialup is so slow). 2. It may take a while to explain, so I'll give a generality now and maybe more after my taxes are done. ;-) I'd like to use it to store every piece of information I come across that I don't think will be retained in my wetware storage. This includes: * tidbits of facts that I haven't yet integrated into "understanding" (snippets or entire emails, web pages, "links" to hard copy information, ..., ..., ...) (i.e., a learning notebook, and collaborative, I'd like to let others read it, make use of it, and add to / correct it). * Possibly things like lists of books, CDs, that I either own, have read / heard, like, dislike, whatever. (I.e., both lists of, e.g., books, and short "book reviews" that might only help me remember that I did read such and such a book (probably along with "spoilers" to help me remember what it was about).) * Something like blogging of in-progress projects. * A code repository (for things I write or might help with), or pointers to things like CVS trees for that code. * etc., etc., etc. Changing from Windows to Linux made me abandom AskSam and ZyIndex for the most part. After a quite unrewarding search, I found wikis and figured they were the closest thing I'd find in Linux (at least at the time). Aside: AskSam is a free-format database, with good searching tools, and available as a group tool (as early as 1985, IIRC, AskSam had a (local) network version which I and some of colleagues used. Somewhere along the line it also became an Internet product, but fairly expensive, IIRC ($1500???). ZyIndex is an indexing tool that will (would, don't know if it is still sold / supported) index a variety of file types (mostly word processors, plain text, and I have a vague recollection maybe it started supporting spread sheets (or I kludged it somehow) for easy search. Made a point of putting all project documents I generated (specs, requirements, design documents, etc.) on a PC and ZyIndexing them, along with any documents I could beg, borrow, steal, or require as new contracts were placed. I find TWiki (both on the Internet and locally a little too cumbersome for various reasons): * Slowness over dialup (being hosted at SourceForge doesn't help). * Find page, click edit, edit, preview, save cycle is too cumbersome. (In AskSam you simply found or started a record, edited that record without a mode change (IIRC), and that record was automatically saved when you "surfed" to a new record (or on demand, IIRC). * Wikis require that you label the data before entering it (find an existing page with a title or create a new page with a title). AskSam (and the plain text file) allow me to enter data without naming the record immediately, I can do so after I enter the data. This is very helpful, as quite often I start recording some data (copy and paste an email or snippet thereof) before I've really figured out what "topic" or "category" I want it filed under. * This also means that I have less need to find an existing record (in either AskSam or the gigantic text file) to add data to -- as long as I eventually name the record (or included explicit or implicit keywords) similarly, I can access all data on a particular topic by virtue of the sorting and searching functions. Other things on the wishlist for such a tool would include lots of special import tools to facilitate copy and paste of specific types of data while maintaining proper attribution, and allowing editing and commenting of that record before storing. For example, it would be nice to copy an email, and when I pasted it into the "tool" it would parse and format it in a prespecified manner (I might have more than one specification for various email lists or categories) -- in general it would parse all the headings and save and format only those specified, in a specified format, perhaps something like this: ---++ : : * [[][]]; ; ; — 
Subject: Re: [ABE.pm] recap
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 09:08:14 -0400
From:  Ricardo SIGNES
> > rjbs has a killer name for a pet project of his: Acropolis. Acropolis > > is a (proposed) system of books, articles, and comments that are > > revision controlled and all linked together. I'm sure rjbs could give a > > better synopsis. > I'd like to find a tool that is a sort of combination of AskSam (free > form database, Windows only (but for several years now available as a > "web server", but, IIRC, no "explicit" revision control), a wiki > (TWiki is my current favorite, it can be used as a free form database, > and does have revision control), and a large text file with "custom" > delimiters (actually, TWiki ML, but much faster for data entry than > calling up a web page over a dialup line). Explain how you'd use it? :)
This is actually the format I use in my plain text "database". Some of the markup is TWiki ("---++") is a second level heading, other is HTML. Keeping records formatted like this is for a number of reasons, I needed record delimiters of some sort, and in this format, a record (or several) can easily be copy and pasted to a TWiki page. Some day it would be nice to have an automated import tool to move selected records to a TWiki. Notice that I edited out some of the message headers and most of the text. The "---++" serves as a record delimiter, a reminder to enter a topic, and an easy way to keep the database sorted alphabetically (using some outline / fold macros I created for Nedit), maybe (in this case) something like: ---++ Databases: Free Format: Acropolis After that line I allow myself to add other keywords that I might want to seach by, and anywhere within the record I can include my own free format comments of any sort, so maybe the final "record" (in the text "database") looks like this: ---++ Database: Free Format: Acropolis?? This topic came up on the ABE.pm mail list, I've written to Ricardo to find out more about what he had in mind: 
Subject: Re: [ABE.pm] recap
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 09:08:14 -0400
From:  Ricardo SIGNES
> > rjbs has a killer name for a pet project of his: Acropolis. Acropolis > > is a (proposed) system of books, articles, and comments that are > > revision controlled and all linked together. I'm sure rjbs could give a > > better synopsis. > I'd like to find a tool that is a sort of combination of AskSam (free > form database, Windows only (but for several years now available as a > "web server", but, IIRC, no "explicit" revision control), a wiki > (TWiki is my current favorite, it can be used as a free form database, > and does have revision control), and a large text file with "custom" > delimiters (actually, TWiki ML, but much faster for data entry than > calling up a web page over a dialup line). Explain how you'd use it? :)
Sorry for the length of this. Randy Kramer From rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org Wed Apr 14 09:38:01 2004 From: rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] review copies Message-ID: <20040414103801.C240@manxome.org> Now available for review: * Perl Medic * Oracle Essentials 3rd Edition * Perl Cookbook 2nd Edition (I'm reviewing this now) I'm guessing Phil will want a look at the Oracle book... -- rjbs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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And can I see the cookbook after you? prl From rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org Wed Apr 14 10:19:07 2004 From: rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] review copies In-Reply-To: <407D5222.8060407@five-lawrences.com> References: <20040414103801.C240@manxome.org> <407D5222.8060407@five-lawrences.com> Message-ID: <20040414111907.E240@manxome.org> * Phil R Lawrence [2004-04-14T11:00:50] > Ricardo SIGNES wrote: > >I'm guessing Phil will want a look at the Oracle book... > > It's scary how intuituve you are... Just simpleminded. I have a list of "Oracle people" and now you're on it, so Oracle books for ABE.pm go to you. Or so says the little dispatch table that is my brain. > And can I see the cookbook after you? Surely. -- rjbs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/abe-pm/attachments/20040414/f83f11c0/attachment.bin From rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org Fri Apr 16 08:22:41 2004 From: rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] Addison Wesley Discounts Message-ID: <20040416092241.E25309@manxome.org> ----- Forwarded message from Dave Cross ----- From: Dave Cross Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 08:55:45 +0100 Subject: [pm_groups] Addison Wesley/Prentice Hall User Groups Discount Looks like Addison Wesley/Prentice Hall have really got the User Groups bug. First they offered you all free review copies of Peter Scott's book "Perl Medic" (http://www.awprofessional.com/title/0201795264), now they're offering up to 35% discounts on all books bought by user group members thru their web site. The details are in a PDF file at http://www.pm.org/AW-UGcoupon.pdf, but basically there are discount codes that you enter into the order form on their site. This offer expires on May 31st. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- rjbs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/abe-pm/attachments/20040416/fa23463c/attachment.bin From rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org Wed Apr 21 14:22:39 2004 From: rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] extproc_perl Message-ID: <20040421152239.O25309@manxome.org> Because I know Phil cares: http://www.smashing.org/extproc_perl/ extproc_perl 2.0 is out Phil, can you show us (me?) a sample of how extproc_perl works? I know it's "do Oracle stuff in Perl" but that's about it. -- rjbs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/abe-pm/attachments/20040421/1ab2e290/attachment.bin From geoff at modperlcookbook.org Wed Apr 21 14:52:57 2004 From: geoff at modperlcookbook.org (Geoffrey Young) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] extproc_perl In-Reply-To: <20040421152239.O25309@manxome.org> References: <20040421152239.O25309@manxome.org> Message-ID: <4086D119.1090605@modperlcookbook.org> Ricardo SIGNES wrote: > Because I know Phil cares: > > http://www.smashing.org/extproc_perl/ > > extproc_perl 2.0 is out > > Phil, can you show us (me?) a sample of how extproc_perl works? I know > it's "do Oracle stuff in Perl" but that's about it. jeff horwitz is a friend of mine - we worked together for a few years. I know he has a quick extproc_perl presentation he sometimes does. would you be interested in me asking him to take the trip with me on the 10th? it would be two talks but each about an hour, so still pretty compact. --Geoff From rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org Wed Apr 21 15:21:29 2004 From: rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] extproc_perl In-Reply-To: <4086D119.1090605@modperlcookbook.org> References: <20040421152239.O25309@manxome.org> <4086D119.1090605@modperlcookbook.org> Message-ID: <20040421162129.Q25309@manxome.org> * Geoffrey Young [2004-04-21T15:52:57] > jeff horwitz is a friend of mine - we worked together for a few years. I > know he has a quick extproc_perl presentation he sometimes does. > > would you be interested in me asking him to take the trip with me on the > 10th? it would be two talks but each about an hour, so still pretty compact. I think it'd be keen, myself. Hopefully we could make sure we have some bodies around, though. I'd hate for you guys to make the trip for Almost Nobody. Well, no, that's a lie. I wouldn't mind, but you might, and then I'd be sad. Other people: Interested? -- rjbs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/abe-pm/attachments/20040421/46d0bb0f/attachment.bin From rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org Thu Apr 22 07:24:08 2004 From: rjbs-perl-abe at lists.manxome.org (Ricardo SIGNES) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] perl 5.8.4 Message-ID: <20040422082408.V25309@manxome.org> perl-5.8.4 is out. I just finished compiling and installing it. So far, so good. -- rjbs -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/abe-pm/attachments/20040422/545664b0/attachment.bin From phil at five-lawrences.com Fri Apr 23 04:18:25 2004 From: phil at five-lawrences.com (Phil Lawrence) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] extproc_perl In-Reply-To: <20040421152239.O25309@manxome.org> References: <20040421152239.O25309@manxome.org> Message-ID: <4088DF61.5090104@five-lawrences.com> Ricardo SIGNES wrote: > Because I know Phil cares: > > http://www.smashing.org/extproc_perl/ > > extproc_perl 2.0 is out Cool. Really, the "Examples" and "User's Guide" links at the link you referenced do a fine job of explaining it. But in a nutshell, you can now call procedures and functions written in Perl, and using perl modules. prl From geoff at modperlcookbook.org Sun Apr 25 19:19:03 2004 From: geoff at modperlcookbook.org (Geoffrey Young) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] [Fwd: Re: extproc_perl talk] Message-ID: <408C5577.2020304@modperlcookbook.org> looks like jeff is willing to come along. so, does it sound interesting/ok to everyone: two 50 minute talks on may 10? --Geoff -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: extproc_perl talk Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 10:36:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Horwitz To: Geoffrey Young okay, it's official -- i'll be back on sunday, so i'm good to go on monday night. we could call it "The Geoff & Jeff Show". ;-) -jeff On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Geoffrey Young wrote: > hey > > I'm headed to abe.pm on may 10th. > > http://abe.pm.org/ > > they expressed some interest in extproc_perl this week > > http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/abe-pm/2004-April/000090.html > > want to come with me and tag-team some talks? > > --Geoff > From jce0 at Lehigh.EDU Tue Apr 27 09:07:52 2004 From: jce0 at Lehigh.EDU (Jim Eshleman) Date: Mon Aug 2 21:22:49 2004 Subject: [ABE.pm] [Fwd: Re: extproc_perl talk] In-Reply-To: <408C5577.2020304@modperlcookbook.org> References: <408C5577.2020304@modperlcookbook.org> Message-ID: <408E6938.9040503@Lehigh.EDU> Geoffrey Young wrote: > looks like jeff is willing to come along. > > so, does it sound interesting/ok to everyone: two 50 minute talks on may 10? > > --Geoff I plan to be there. Jim